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Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus
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Cleobet
on 13/04/2020, 18:20:30 UTC
We offer 100% deposit bonus on your first deposit! Up to 1 BTC!
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Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus
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Cleobet
on 13/04/2020, 10:13:38 UTC
We are an honest company. We are looking into your request. Spamming the forum does not help. Please be patient.
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Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus
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Cleobet
on 11/04/2020, 21:30:28 UTC
Please send an E-mail to support@cleo-bet.io
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Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus
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Cleobet
on 10/04/2020, 19:50:41 UTC
Write us an email, please.
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Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus
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Cleobet
on 10/04/2020, 18:15:17 UTC
We got plenty of matches live.
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Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus
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Cleobet
on 06/04/2020, 12:58:21 UTC


Well, I suggest we will go back to the start of the topic were you already accusing us and changing words.

Hello,

Thank you for the messages.
We have no association in any way with 1xbit / 1xbet / betb2b. We have developed our own platform and have our own license. We understand your questions / comments, but we are a completely different company.

That´s actually impossible, sorry - I may believe you are operating "independently" - stating you have developed your own platform, well, thats simply not true... I really hate to do/say this but with your first response - which came quickly, thanks for that - you have already disqualified yourselves. No association in any way cant be true based on the fact that your platform is exactly the same that is being used by 1xbet/1xbit and the hundreds of clones all over the net.

Our platform is exactly the same? If you are stating this, it is clear that you did not reviewed the site well.
We do not even have an online casino.
The offers in live bets are much lower than 1xbet.
If we would have used betb2b software, we would have exactly the same offers as 1xbet does.



This is not a uniquely built platform - we are no fools.

So, long story short, please read this to see why I am saying what I am saying: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230966.msg54145586#msg54145586

Where did we say "uniquely built platform" ?
We said that we have deisgned our own platform. We never said it was unique.
We told we have used the 1xbet interface as inspiration.



You are talking about the whole structure:
Perhaps it helps if you compare the offer of our sport events (sports / odds) with that of 1xbit / 1xbet.

Those differ completely from eachother.

You arent helping yourselves with your replies so far - even though I appreciate that you do answer!

The sports betting selection being different? First of all, its actually not completely different when comparing it with all those sites. And then, it doesnt need to be identical to prove me right - that betb2b platform (of course) allows you to choose.

By the way: Here in your ANN you are saying there is a 1 BTC welcome deposit bonus - on your website/platform, that you have build from scratch and completely on your own, you are saying 5 BTC... So whats it gonna be?

And again you are wrong. betb2b platform does not allow you to choose. You rent their platform, that is their service. That is why it is called white label.



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Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus
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Cleobet
on 06/04/2020, 12:42:33 UTC
@efialtis/TwitchySeal

I did not knew that you have so many alt accounts  Grin

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Re: Cleobet: Another betb2b (1xbet/1xbit) clone - Flag to be supported
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Cleobet
on 06/04/2020, 12:32:48 UTC
It is only a matter of time before your alt accounts are attacking me here as well again..
So here we go again..

efialtis with your alt accounts, com in this topic and defend  efialtis and attack cleobet!  Grin
I will count the number of alt accounts.
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Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus
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Cleobet
on 06/04/2020, 12:09:09 UTC
For the record: We are trying to answer all the questions. But there is a user on the forum with the name efialtis, who is using alt accounts (account "lauda" for example). trying to ruin cleobet as much as possible.
And the worst thing is that he was doing this already before he spoke with us. In the reputations talk there are already topics opened from people who are accusing this user lauda (efialtis).

If he had suspicions against cleobet, and he asked us to answer some questions, then he could decide to flag it or not.
But what he did was just trolling, trying to take down cleobet without conversating any.

Of course we can not fight against this kind of fraud, since he is using 6-7 accounts in cleobet related topics, all written in the same style with the same negative words every message.

People have the right to ask questions, criticise, and yes the comparison to 1xbet website is justified from the point of view from the user.
But as we explained, we have rebuilt this website, with less options, less sports and not even a casino.
Do you relly think that if we hire the Betb2b platform with tons of sports, we would minimize the sports and disable the Casino?

If people want to ask us questions, please do so and we will try to respond on any.
The situation right now is that we are flagged without any reasons, only because efialtis is using alt accounts who give fraud merits.
The ony thing we from Cleobet really want to know is why efialtis is trying to take us down.

We have no issues or problems with customers, and ony basedon our layout we got flagged.
Sorry for my words, but this is ridiculous.

We will answer all questions, but we will not start the conversation with efialtis or one of his alt accounts, since he shows only disrespect and has no manners.
I am also curious which sportbook has hired him. I read a post that Lauda was hired by an onine casino already, but I will not mention any names here.
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Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus
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Cleobet
on 06/04/2020, 08:52:17 UTC
I think it is better for me to just ignore the false accusations and trying to stay positive.

Has anybody so far any feedback for our website?
We are aware that there are not many games, but there are still some active games.

Please feel free to try our site.
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Re: Fortunejack casino working with proven scammers and nutildah willing scam facili
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Cleobet
on 06/04/2020, 00:45:05 UTC
Lauda is a scammer and worker for sure, and contolled by efialtis.
efialtis is controlling other accounts as well. When you are in discussion with him, suddenly 7-8 other accounts are coming in, defending this troll (or it is him or his team).
He ruined my website, and I want to make sure he will not ruin other sportsbooks as well.

Somebody must stop him.
Can we make a flag here for this user?
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Re: Cleobet: Another betb2b (1xbet/1xbit) clone - Flag to be supported
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Cleobet
on 06/04/2020, 00:41:52 UTC
So since it is undeniable that lauda the scammer lied that the was no instamine with xcoin/dark because he had bags of it to dump on others. Not only did he claim he was there on the launch so he could say there was no instamine (although it was irrefutable and proven) he viciously attacked members that correctly said there was an instamine.

After lauda finish dumping his bags he then admitted there was an instamine scam coin.

He lied and tried to deceive for direct financial gain = scamming  

What does this gobshite alt or pal of lauda the member nullius do as soon as he wakes up from a very long sleep??
He immediately  makes up a reason to red tag the member that busted lauda for being a scammer?? On what grounds did he trust abuse that famous scam hunter??

For having empathy??

Apparently nullius (laudas bitch or alt)  says having empathy = red trust if you  have busted lauda for scamming.

Here is the evidence of Laura scamming. Have a look.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229739.msg53948198#msg53948198

This a direct lie from lauda to deliberately scam investors into buying into a project under the false premise there was no instamine!!.


Now we see nullius the double standards hypocrite bitch of lauda. Who is supporting lauda and running around looking like a lauda is trying to punish another member for a similar but less serious crime?? This person is not lying like Lauda?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231181.0


What is theymos going to do about these scammers like lauda who have infiltrated  and entrenched  themselves on the trust system? As if there is not enough evidence of lauda scamming extortion and trust abuse to black list it and his supporters. ??

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5213587.0



Imagine how lucky those handful of linux miners that instamined 2 million in the first 24hours are Smiley so lucky the reward was HUGE, so lucky no windows miners, so lucky the diff was jammed down super low, so lucky the minting got slashed by 75%.... lol they were VERY lucky. I know you were one of these lucky people.

Really? you and your crystal ball seem rather useful. Buy 50k drk right now then if it's impossible to lose. Price is 950000 Impossible to lose? let's see.

To be fair though the thread is regarding the 2 million instamined drk in the first 24hours. If dark rises to 1 on coinmarket cap or sinks to 100 really does not change the facts presented in the OP regarding the shark like instamine and slashing of the minting.

Personally i consider it to have a lot more dev and community behind it, so although it could be a bubble now about to pop (which i think it is) it could actually be reaching fair price per coin now the minting is going to be so low. Who can say. However it was not a fair POW distibution, it was a captive instamine that was then pumped to a HUGE captive instamine later on. One of the most disgusting displays of outright greed from any coin dev and community.

It may take some time, but there will be a entire crop of drk/anon coins on their way now. Drk is in for some tough times. If you really believe ED is the only coder on this planet that can develop a decent anon coin i think you will see soon that you're very wrong. I see a big correction back to 300000 or less in a few days.

Let's see what happens, but investing now in drk would be VERY risky. I wonder if you are selling right now. If you are smart you will be. I would estimate you have 300k or more DRK yourself. I know you have a lot of hardware and operate linux so you could have way more than that. I bet you're unloading a chunk at this point.


Anyway i no longer really care about drk as i did before, the dev really would have gone through with the airdrop i know it for sure, he took a big risk saying he would go through with it and then being forced by the community to pull out. Let's see what happens. He realised his mistake and tried to make up for it. Sadly it was too late and investors were never going to let that happen, although long term it could have been a smart move.

 I am more against drk setting a bad example to other devs who think they can instamine 12.5% in 24hours with no pools or windows wallets, then decide to cut their minting by 75%. Drk may have got away with it to a degree, other new coins must not be allowed to do so.

Let's see what happens with it, will it rise further or crash down. NOBODY really knows.


There was no instamine. Stop this nonsense. In this case you don't know what instamine is.You could have bought almost 10k DRK back in the day for a single Bitcoin, tell me how much that is worth now?
How would you know what I'm operating? Reading my posts around are you?



LOL, you're spouting rubbish.

Someone could come and take everything away from you anyway, forget DRK and masternodes, it's all pointless, throw yourself off a cliff now mate before it's too late! Roll Eyes
Try finding me then. With this IP you'll end up in some 3rd world country probably. Cheesy
MNs are fun, that's why I'm hosting multiple. Cool

If you really want a useful tip then check out Darkcoin. Have a look at the marketcaps today: 7    Darkcoin   $ 18,135,084   $ 4.23   4,284,401 DRK   $ 1,604,453    +54.70 % Wink

Why invest in a coin that is already up so much?

An insider tip is to get in from the start. Like when drk was 10 cents Wink
I still consider it fairly undervalued, I bought more 1 hour ago. If the media catches this tonight, you will see this growth increase.
Remember when dogecoin spiked, what was that 2000-3000%? Wink






if darkcoin is scam. why people buy and the price is rising?
i still don't get it..

Because it's not a scam.

If it was, it would have been dumped to kingdom come and die 10 times over.

History tells the story... 5 months and growing strong.
It's definitely not a scam. 4,286,653 DRK   isn't 50% of the supply either. Only butthurt people are saying such a thing. How about you find me a coin that has such a strong development (features) like DRK?



I think it proves the opposite that only those in on the instamine are claiming it is not a scam Smiley

Please do yourself and drk a favour, keep quiet the storm is blowing over. You constant excuses and justifications for the method of release are doing more harm.

If you really believe coins are best released with no windows qt and no pools. Put a thread up about it and settle it once and for all. See what the rest of the community says about it.

I challenge you to do it now?

ALL COINS SHOULD BE RELEASED WITH NO WINDOWS QT AND NO POOLS. VOTE NOW. POW IS FOR LINUX ONLY FROM NOW ON.

make that your title.


Wrong. You seem to be applying the term scam to everything. Even if it was instamined, which it was not, it still is not a scam. Go look up words definitions.
Yes, average users with minimum knowledge still use windows only. Pools shouldn't be used in any coin IMO.
Complain some more and keep missing out on the money.

Cheers.




Closure or loss of some earnings...hmmmm. No big exchanges will risk it if they try and ban it. It won't have this much volume after the pump is done.

Don't be such an obvious pumper, at least pretend to consider some possible negatives. The fact you believe there was no instamine is the best part.


I'd rather be closed than submit to the foul government. There is no pump going on. We have just started to get the attention of some media, wait for the full impact. There was no instamine, I was there.


Anybody else have trouble withdrawing from crypsty? I've been waiting a bit now, updated to latest client, etc. and nothing.
Nope I withdrew recently DRK and BTC and both transactions have gone through without a problem.

I'm positive that only people who missed out on DRK and/or who are mad for not profiting, say it is a scam. :)



DASH
Instamined scam.

ETC
Original Ethereum.

ETHEREUM
Centralized bailout scam.

LTC
Silver to Bitcoin.

XRP
That's not even a cryptocurrency.

Have u heard about Recoin? i purchased 700$ but planning to do more. what do u think about investment like this?
You are an idiot. Stop investing in shit that nobody uses/wants/needs.

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Re: Lauda = scammer / extortionist - nullius = twat double standards cheater
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Cleobet
on 06/04/2020, 00:40:02 UTC
Profile Lauda is controlled by the same person that owns efialtis
Check the topic, were user efialtis is trying to ruin our website, without any proof.

This user efialtis, is also the same person as Lauda and tyKiwanuka (and probably he owns muc more accounts).

I am not surpised he is stated as a scammer, and he is hired to ruin companies on the forum. God may know for what reason..

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Re: Cleobet: Another betb2b (1xbet/1xbit) clone - Flag to be supported
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Cleobet
on 05/04/2020, 13:31:12 UTC
efialtis alleges: Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with Cleobet is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions.
Support: Lauda, Avirunes, tyKiwanuka, efialtis


What a joke!
It is obvioous for me that Lauda,  tyKiwanuka, and efialtis are all the same person. I can not judge now about Avirunes, but it would not surprise to me if he is in this complot as well.
You do not have to be an expert for that.
There is a big difference between the other posts, who are sharing their opinions with normal statements, which I am open for feedback.
But this troll efialtis has a team of workers around him, or he controls them by himself.

Can anbody tell me it is allowed to post a topic where I want ti hire people who can investigate this pattern for me, and investigating all the connections between all the accounts that are used from efialtis?
I will pay for this of course. I respect the privacy, so if somebody wants to start this investigation; I will not publish any names.

I do not know the bitcointalk forum so good; that is correct.
But what I do know is that there are shady games played here, and it is organised.

Bookmakers who do not pay out, receive complaints that users accounts are blocked.. All no problem, no red flag or yellow flag or whatever.
Simply hired an army to push the messages away.
But when a new sportsbook comes here, that shows some similraties with other bookmakers, it must be red flagged. And warned about it from the moderators.
In what world do we live?

If somebody is willing to start an investigating against efialtis and his ALT accounts, please PM me. I am sure we will agree on the price.


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Re: Cleobet: Another betb2b (1xbet/1xbit) clone - Flag to be supported
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Cleobet
on 05/04/2020, 12:39:12 UTC
I think the only one who can use a deep breath now is you..
Trading in Bitcointalk accounts. And now suddenly in this topic.
You are finished.

@Accountsbtalk selling Full Member and Legendary accounts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218614.msg53108824;boardseen#new
Archive  https://archive.md/5Fy2A

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218525.msg53634486#msg53634486
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I have 2 Bitcointalk accounts for sale. Both accounts are with neutral trust. Never banned or ever requested a loan. Only english posts.
Accounts are active and comes with the registered email address. They are both clean and good.

Full member
Posts: 1304
Activity: 534
Merit: 141
Registered: 2017
Price: 0.01 BTC


Legendary
Posts: 1102
Activity: 1102
Merit: 1028
Registered: 2015
Price: 0.02 BTC



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Re: Account seller
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Cleobet
on 05/04/2020, 12:37:13 UTC
@Rikafips

Oops....

@Accountsbtalk selling Full Member and Legendary accounts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218614.msg53108824;boardseen#new
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218525.msg53634486#msg53634486
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I have 2 Bitcointalk accounts for sale. Both accounts are with neutral trust. Never banned or ever requested a loan. Only english posts.
Accounts are active and comes with the registered email address. They are both clean and good.

Full member
Posts: 1304
Activity: 534
Merit: 141
Registered: 2017
Price: 0.01 BTC


Legendary
Posts: 1102
Activity: 1102
Merit: 1028
Registered: 2015
Price: 0.02 BTC



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Re: Cleobet: Another betb2b (1xbet/1xbit) clone - Flag to be supported
by
Cleobet
on 05/04/2020, 12:27:42 UTC
UPDATE:


tyKiwanuka is also controlled by efialtis.

You do not have to be a big expert to compare the way of writing/spelling for these 2 accounts.
And also wear the same avatar..

Current list:
efialtis, tyKiwanuka, Rikafip are the same person.
And for sure there are more names linked to this person.

I think I will investigate some more and start a Topic about tis.
This way of low rated/unfundemental coorindated actions must be stopped.

To be continued for sure!

The next one who is defending efialtis, will be added on the list for sure.
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Re: Cleobet: Another betb2b (1xbet/1xbit) clone - Flag to be supported
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Cleobet
on 05/04/2020, 12:18:02 UTC
Starting my own investigation. I find something really interesting. I will continue this investigation for sure, to proof

Hi, do you have account for sale ?

Can you ask @Rikafip pm me ? ! I cant send them private message ..(

Both Legendary accounts are banned.  Sad   Use escrow.

Ooops....


As can been seen, user Rikafip is trying to camouflage it (but not really on a smart way).
He is in public now making requests for buying accounts on this forum.

And he suddenly received merits from user efialtis. Merits for what?
I am sure efialtis is using more accounts on the forum (or working together with other people), by using more accounts.
efialtis and Rikafip are the same. And it would not surprise me if he owns dozens of other accounts!


And guess what:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218615.msg54148869#msg54148869

Rikafip even is selling accounts in this topic!

@Accountsbtalk selling Full Member and Legendary accounts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218614.msg53108824;boardseen#new
Archive  https://archive.md/5Fy2A

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218525.msg53634486#msg53634486
Archive  https://archive.ph/ahpXl

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I have 2 Bitcointalk accounts for sale. Both accounts are with neutral trust. Never banned or ever requested a loan. Only english posts.
Accounts are active and comes with the registered email address. They are both clean and good.

Full member
Posts: 1304
Activity: 534
Merit: 141
Registered: 2017
Price: 0.01 BTC


Legendary
Posts: 1102
Activity: 1102
Merit: 1028
Registered: 2015
Price: 0.02 BTC





Very interesting.. Rikafip  a person who is trading in accounts on bitcointalk, suddenly merited by by efialtis in this topic.
It would be better to start a topic around this "shady" business, than to try taking down a new sportsbook with no complaining customers.

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Re: Cleobet: Another betb2b (1xbet/1xbit) clone - Flag to be supported
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Cleobet
on 05/04/2020, 11:23:40 UTC
Come on guys, if you want to work together trying to take Cleobet.io out, do it less suspicious.
Now it is only visible that this is a coordinated action from efialtis.

I think Cleobet can go into the books for record, people trying to red flag it.. withou even 1 complaint from a customer!

Users on the forum should warn eachother regarding bookmakers, when customers are not get paid or face problems.
Not because the site looks "shady", acoording to the "team" of efialtis. People who are supporting the red flag without any reasons or proof.
It is also quite funny that we have to proof we have no connection to 1xbit. I thought in the society it is normal to give statements with proof, if you accuse something. And not just trolling like efialtis is constantly doing.

efialtis interesm appears to be poker. But when our site was announced he was hitting the F5 button, waiting to slander it.
The ony question arrised:
Which sportsbook has hired efialtis to slander cleobet.io, or is he get screwed by 1xbit and seeking for revenge without doing any research.

I also want to mention that efialtis has no idea where he is talking about.

Some example:

KawBet.com definitely belongs to the 1xbet/1xbit group - 100%, not 95% but 100%!


There is no such thing as "1xbet/1xbit group". Those sites are hiring the platform from white labeled company Betb2b.
But I guess it was even to hard for efialtis to research this.

I understand that Kawbet has a ruined reputation ( I do not judge of this is justified). But at least it was based on negative experiences from users, who claimed not to get baid, or accounts that were closed.
Then it is justified to write something.

Cleobet.io; 0 complaints from customers and 1 troll constantly rolling.
And a red flag? LOL

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Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus
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Cleobet
on 04/04/2020, 22:25:02 UTC
I understand your question now. We have nothing to do with Malubit though.

As I mentioned earlier, I cannot judge providers from other companies / bookmakers.
I cannot speak on behalf of Malubit and I absolutely do not want to. If you have questions related to them, you should put them to them.
But given the hundreds / thousands of sites out there, it seems plausible to me that some odds are the same.