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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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Croak
on 24/05/2014, 18:30:43 UTC
Please add the logfile for the GPU.
How are your hardware setup?

//Aboy68

This is really weird. I left the system running while awaiting a response, and a few minutes ago it magically boosted up to 90k PPD (on the same job) and went from 0.00% to almost 3% instantly. Since then, it's been increasing at a decent rate...

If you've got a weak CPU it can take some time for the project to get "fired up".

Pro-tip:  Go into Configure/Slots, highlight CPU, and then click Delete (bottom right) so you don't have to muck around with pausing it every time you start FaH.
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 22/05/2014, 15:01:39 UTC
does anybody knows how many curecoins can one 280x earn per day?
A 280x does about 120K PPD, which is currently approx 4.5 cure.

WOW! I've only been able to manage 120k with four 7950's. I NEED a new CPU!

Are you using 14.4 drivers?  All my AMD rigs use G1620 Celerons, and ran like crap with 13.12 while folding because the CPU was pegged at 100% all the time.  With 14.4, it'll peg at startup, then once it's actually folding it runs fine, about 23% CPU usage on a 4x 280x rig, for instance.
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 22/05/2014, 09:56:16 UTC
You don't need to delete stalled (99.99%) work units.  Ever.

Just pause them, then once paused, click Finish or Fold, and pay attention to the log...you'll see it's just a sync issue, and once paused and restarted, the logs eventually show it folding properly again, at the correct percentage of completion, even if the main display does not reflect that actual proper % for some time.

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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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Croak
on 21/05/2014, 20:45:45 UTC
just curious what kind of ressource do you need to get 500curecoins per day with folding at home ?

Something like scrypt 100 MH/s

False. Scrypt isn't used for this cryptocurrency.


500 coins a day means 6.7% of all the coins released in a day 14.8 million points per day.


A single quad 780 ti rig could get 1 million points per day (slightly less) so you would need 15 of these.

I meant the hardware needed to get 100 MH/s with scrypt... But actually i was way off, AMD-wise it should be 30 R9 280x


You're way off, a single R9 280x gets around 120k ppd on avarage, which would mean you'll need around 120 to get 14.8 million ppd

290x gets close to 200k, 290 can do 170k, 780ti can get in spitting distance of 300k PPD with the right project.

I get 600k+ PPD out of a 4x 290 rig, 450k+ out of a 2x 780ti rig, 450k+ PPD out of a 4x 280x rig, and about 280k PPD out of a 4x 270 (non-x) rig.  

About 2.1 million PPD for all my rigs (290 rig, 280x rig, 780ti rig, and two 270 rigs), according to the FaH client (all rigs added to the client via remote), and that matches really damn close to my actual PPD by the time you factor time lost for new work and the odd glitch.  On scrypt, that combo of rigs is about 11mhs, just to put it in perspective.

And on my best day that earned me 67 coins.   So those guys pulling down 400-500 are throwing some serious hash (er, folding) power at Curecoin.  
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 21/05/2014, 20:40:56 UTC
Hi. So far I've completed 6 WUs for the Curecoin F@H team. I haven't been credited with any coins. It's been over 24 hours since I completed my first WU. My cryptobullionpools account has exactly the same user name as my Curecoin F@H account including the right capitalization. I created this account just before I started folding. Is something wrong or should I wait more?


Make DAMN SURE you have the proper team entered.  Not on the Curecoin team (224497) , you're just charity folding.    Smiley
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Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX]
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on 21/05/2014, 20:25:52 UTC
I think it is a good idea to just let him speak to these discussions about supporting AMD/ATI cards and not just engage in banter one way or another.

the last ATI (now AMD) card I owned was a Radeon 9550 I think (2005 timeframe)
Also I am not familiar at all with OpenCL. But I consider myself really proficient in CUDA.
I own about 20 nVidia cards (but not all are currently in service).

So why is it I should support/improve AMD mining? It would cut into my nVidia mining profits.
Like, seriously. Supporting both vendors would have the same effect as supporting none.
It wouldn't shift the balance of power in favor of anybody.

Christian


Another bullish statement read this week. Majority of x11 hashrate now belongs to amd card. Improving their hashrate would seriously cut down nvida advantage and profit margin
actually if that could convince the guy doing 500 curecoins a day to move to x11 that would be great  Grin (I think I am already done with x11 coin... they have redefined the term of shitcoin with 2 or 3 launch/ day even during business days... totally insane)

Those two guys WERE GPU/CPU mining XPM at ypool, if it makes you feel any better, so the smaller XPM miners are not unhappy to see them on something else.  Then again, I'm on Curecoin myself now (from XPM) so I share your pain.

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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 21/05/2014, 12:05:24 UTC
Now both my machines are sticking on downloading WU's. Even a restart of the client will not fix them. Anyone else having this problem? Huh

kqpahv mentioned this error on the previous page but restarting the client did reset his.


You're welcome Wink
Now only thing I am checking is GPU utilization and if thats 95+% I dont care about the numbers that the client is showing anymore.



I'v got a different problem myself now: Some GPU's get stuck downloading new WU's  Roll Eyes Stays on "downloading" forever with no getwork server address available. Restarting the client solves this but is really uncomfortable if you have many rigs to keep an eye on....
This started yesterday, anyone experiencing the same thing ?


Check the log and see if you are getting the same error message he got.  So far I have not run into this error but I am watching for it.


I am getting "05:32:12:ERROR:WU00:FS00:Exception: Server did not assign work unit". 2 out of 4 card on one machine, and 2 out of 3 on the other. Rebooting them didn't even fix it.

It's happening to a lot of people (myself included, on three different rigs and eight different folding slots) so it's not just you.    

Did we use up all the Work Units?  Smiley



I highly doubt it - I haven't had this problem occur but I will look into it.

I have the same problem. 2 out of my 5 cards not picking up new WUs.  Re-boot didnt work ..... seems more widespread

my log details

06:19:08:WU02:FS00:Requesting new work unit for slot 00: READY gpu:2:Hawaii [Radeon R9 200 Series] from 171.64.65.93
06:19:08:WU02:FS00:Connecting to 171.64.65.93:8080
06:19:08:WU01:FS01:Requesting new work unit for slot 01: READY gpu:0:Hawaii [Radeon R9 200 Series] from 171.64.65.93
06:19:08:WU01:FS01:Connecting to 171.64.65.93:8080
06:19:09:ERROR:WU02:FS00:Exception: Server did not assign work unit
06:19:09:ERROR:WU01:FS01:Exception: Server did not assign work unit


Now 3 out of 5 are stuck not picking up wu.  will be down to 1 card in 20 mins by the looks of it
Have tried deleting the GPUs from the config and reinstating.  No joy still stuck on download

There are command line options that F@H has that I have not researched.  I would check to see if there is an option to override / change the work server.  If there is an option to do it you can try using 171.64.65.79.  One of my machines just received work from that server.


I had a look https://fah-web.stanford.edu/projects/FAHClient/wiki/ClientDifferencesV6ToV7 sadly cant see anything that enables me to force the IP address.

Complete uninstall including data and re-instal has forced a new IP address assignment and it's picked up new WUs   .....   I would have hoped the client would try new IP address', but hey, whatever works.  OK for the likes of me with just 1 Rig but will be a mare for those with multiple rigs

Uninstall WITHOUT removing Data worked for me as well, across 5 rigs.  Try that first, save yourself the hassle of setting up passkeys and remote connection configs again, if that doesn't work, THEN nuke Data.
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 21/05/2014, 06:18:27 UTC
It's what, midnight-ish East Coast US?  Might be awhile before somebody wakes up and sees the problem at Stanford. 
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 21/05/2014, 05:55:58 UTC
Now both my machines are sticking on downloading WU's. Even a restart of the client will not fix them. Anyone else having this problem? Huh

kqpahv mentioned this error on the previous page but restarting the client did reset his.


You're welcome Wink
Now only thing I am checking is GPU utilization and if thats 95+% I dont care about the numbers that the client is showing anymore.



I'v got a different problem myself now: Some GPU's get stuck downloading new WU's  Roll Eyes Stays on "downloading" forever with no getwork server address available. Restarting the client solves this but is really uncomfortable if you have many rigs to keep an eye on....
This started yesterday, anyone experiencing the same thing ?


Check the log and see if you are getting the same error message he got.  So far I have not run into this error but I am watching for it.


I am getting "05:32:12:ERROR:WU00:FS00:Exception: Server did not assign work unit". 2 out of 4 card on one machine, and 2 out of 3 on the other. Rebooting them didn't even fix it.

It's happening to a lot of people (myself included, on three different rigs and eight different folding slots) so it's not just you.   

Did we use up all the Work Units?  Smiley

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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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Croak
on 20/05/2014, 17:27:07 UTC
Hi guys - Love the coin and it's purpose. I'm new to folding so this was really a nice way to do some good for humanity whilst raising some coins.

I've been mining for over 48 hours now, and i've accumulated over a million points, but i have'nt seen any sort of progress on the pool side. Is this normal? I thought perhaps i may have seen a few valid points by now?

Does it always take this time to update? Or did i somehow mess up my account? My username is "scottlilo" which is identical across folding@home and the pool.

Thanks for any help guys.

Yes, I didn't see a payout for about 3 days from when I started. The pool right now only updates once a day (I think), Since then they happen at 19:00 UTC daily. If you see your name on these two sites, it will be there; you just have to be more patient with this than with normal mining.

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=224497&p=1

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userstats

Note that the pool's 24-hour production stats are aligned with kakao's and not EOC's - so it's easier to use the site below to track progress and make sure the pool is getting it right:

http://kakaostats.com/

Thanks for the link! So to clarify, we use the same name at F@H and the pool, and as long as our name is showing up on Kakao we are good to go?

And of course you're on the proper team (which will also show on Kakao)
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 20/05/2014, 09:30:57 UTC

Hi kqpahv,

I have a question for you: just how do you manage your 18 rigs for folding? If I understand right you have all AMD cards and thus you have to use Windows. I can't still image how difficult it was to maintain more than 3 rigs with Windows. Btw could you share what kind of CPU and how many cards do you use for your rigs?


One word:

Teamviewer

http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 19/05/2014, 20:16:00 UTC
Yeah, if the investors do dump (which I doubt), it just makes for a more democratic coin distribution.  Which at least partially solves the problem some of the whingers had about not getting a chance to buy at the IPO price themselves.  Smiley
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 19/05/2014, 02:11:10 UTC
Also keep in mind the value of the IPO BTC, at least double what it's worth now, if the IPO was six months ago.  ROI isn't quite so huge as it seems, if you take that into consideration.  Also, just imagine the opportunity cost of having your BTC tied up in a project that took six months to get off the ground.  Lots of great crypto investment opportunities have risen (and fallen) in that time period.
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 19/05/2014, 00:25:05 UTC
I have 6 million points and 2 curecoins

is that correct?

Maybe.  If you put a massive amount of power on folding in the last day or so, it's quite possible that all that got recorded for the daily snapshot was enough points to earn you 2 coins.  You'll make up the difference in the next payout, since it does a delta between "today" and "yesterday" to figure out your daily points.

That's all assuming that you're folding for the right team (224497) with all your rigs/bots, and that the username you used on CryptoBullion matches what you use to fold.
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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Croak
on 18/05/2014, 17:54:11 UTC
My WU is stuck @99.99% for several hours now, it looks broken.
Is there an option to skip the current project and start a new one?

Pause it.  The value will likely show much lower when paused.  Then click Finish.  It will go back to 99.99 percent/unknown ETA, but let it run, and check the logs, you'll see that FS0x is actually increasing.  Give it time.

Yes you're right, the value is much lower when paused (only 65% done). But when I click finish (or folding) my GPU doesn't work. My occupancy rate is still only around 5-10%.

Give it time.  Keep in mind when you pause and resume, the CPU has to set up the work again from the last good checkpoint, and that can take many minutes before it starts to load up the GPU (especially on big projects like the 13000/13001 types).  It's possible you've had a driver crash as well, so it's not a bad idea to reboot between pausing and hitting finish again.
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 18/05/2014, 17:47:47 UTC
My WU is stuck @99.99% for several hours now, it looks broken.
Is there an option to skip the current project and start a new one?

Pause it.  The value will likely show much lower when paused.  Then click Finish.  It will go back to 99.99 percent/unknown ETA, but let it run, and check the logs, you'll see that FS0x is actually increasing.  Give it time.
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 18/05/2014, 16:47:36 UTC
Trying to recruit folders from others teams is not the way to do things. The success of this project will stand up on its own merits; if people want to join they'll do so of their own volition. And by all accounts that's already happened in a very big way.

This.

"Team Curecoin" is already growing at a very rapid rate, as indicated by the ever-increasing PPD stats.  So there's no need to "reach out" to other teams, there's no need to alienate other teams

No, where Curecoin "wins" as far as supporting F@H is by converting profit-oriented miners and their massive amounts of potential folding power into a force for good, rather than "preaching to the choir" of existing folders who've been doing this for years on end.  

And it's working.  Look at the top of the team list.  Several of those folk that have showed up in the last few days have large CPU and GPU farms and are known "regulars" mining coins like PTS, RIC or XPM, and they've shifted to Curecoin..these are guys with probably over a million dollars worth of combined hardware that are now helping a worthy cause besides their own profit (while still making a profit). 
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 18/05/2014, 16:23:17 UTC
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Also, I have asked this once before but got no answer: How does the network balancing between mining and folding work ?

There's really nothing I'd call active "balancing".  

Miners are mining "fresh"coins at just about the target rate of 10 minutes per block (13 coins per block) and the difficulty retargets seem to be doing the job properly.  Folders are getting paid shares from a fixed 7488 coins per day from the pre-mine stash, that won't change for oh, 4 years, give or take the developers' stated intention to reserve the right to increase payouts on special occasions (said extra coins coming from the developer premine, I would assume, and not from the folding reserved premine).  

That means the 80/20 ratio of coins from folding and mining is pretty much still in effect, 7488 coins from folding, ~1872 from mining daily.  

The exact rate and amounts of the IPO payouts are still a mystery, but I tend to believe the devs when they say they're dribbling those out rather than paying in bulk.  

But the good news is, exchange volume supports those figures...less than half the daily yield of coins is actually being sold on the market right now, and only a fraction of the coins distributed to date are even listed for sale across all the exchanges.  Lots of coins being held in wallets, which indicates to me a fair amount of confidence in the value increasing, or at least the hope that there's more buy support in the future.
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 18/05/2014, 09:01:05 UTC
Ipo investors are steadily crashing the price...too bad for the coin

Except it's not the IPO coins, it's just a few thousand mined and folding coins.  Investors haven't even been paid yet as far as I know, and when they do get paid, it's in monthly installments. 
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Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto
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on 18/05/2014, 07:06:41 UTC
So glad I got out early with only 10% loss.

Cure is being dumped big time. Funny how no one really talks about it in this thread.

Why would people focus on a low price? People should be focusing on the project itself; on development. This coin is what... 8 days old? Sheesh..

Yeah, and in a few days, when those "easy" coins from the smaller pool have dried up, and there's some actual volume in the exchanges, it'll likely tick back up.  

I've folded for three days now.  My second payout was 25% higher than my first day's payout, but my daily points were more than double.  Those 7488 folding coins are getting spread thinner and thinner.

You should also note that only about 3500 coins were traded since Poloniex added Curecoin...that's a ridiculously small volume to be judging the coin's value on, less than half a day's production.