Anyone else notice kano.is being funky?

Miners seem to be OK tho..

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Reached out to Steve, thanks.

Looking to get some kind of discount on an order of 50 rather than just checking out on website.

Would rather support them than Bitmain...


So all the Bitmain coupons gone?

Hey guys,

Am ready to make a significant expansion to my present mining power.. electricity has been sorted out..

Is there a warm contact at Canaan to approach regarding a bulk order? (40-50 units)

Anyone still have bitmain coupons remaining?

135TH pointed @ Kano now, hoping to have much more soon

I did the math myself recently, (much as I love Kano, I can't pay my bills with said love, and although it's been a fantastic streak, I was looking at the numbers from before to forecast what may be on the horizon...shame I didn't start 6 months ago though, the luckiest day ever in history of the pool was my birthday  ) and came to the following numbers.

I use BTC.com pool as a benchmark because they simply buy your hashrate without any concern for blocks as a PPS pool. Mind you at the time I did the numbers there were paying .00007btc per 1TH/24hrs and they were very competitive but presently it is 0.00006369.

0.00006369 * 13.5 = 0.000859815, this would be your daily payout from that pool, per one 13.5 S9.

I will use my personal example from last week since I have the exact numbers.
I left one 13/TH Antminer on Kano as I experimented with Slush, I used five 13.5/TH to experiment.

For 5 13.5, 67.5TH/s, I had following results:
33916   2018-04-10 23:34   05:46:19   3.351 Eh/s   67.81 Th/s   0.00024888 BTC   12.54996593 BTC   Confirmed
33915   2018-04-10 17:48   00:33:41   3.013 Eh/s   67.54 Th/s   0.00027510 BTC   12.52368187 BTC   Confirmed
33914   2018-04-10 17:14   02:47:57   3.039 Eh/s   68.62 Th/s   0.00027981 BTC   12.64686116 BTC   Confirmed
33913   2018-04-10 14:27   00:43:35   3.016 Eh/s   68.83 Th/s   0.00027956 BTC   12.50000000 BTC   Confirmed
33912   2018-04-10 13:43   01:21:40   3.190 Eh/s   66.89 Th/s   0.00026867 BTC   13.07266917 BTC   Confirmed
33905   2018-04-10 03:37   00:31:59   3.113 Eh/s   67.34 Th/s   0.00027040 BTC   12.75687432 BTC   Confirmed
33904   2018-04-10 03:05   00:41:13   3.127 Eh/s   66.69 Th/s   0.00026619 BTC   12.73560489 BTC   Confirmed
33903   2018-04-10 02:24   00:21:42   3.103 Eh/s   67.55 Th/s   0.00026775 BTC   12.55257875 BTC   Confirmed
33902   2018-04-10 02:02   00:59:23   3.125 Eh/s   68.05 Th/s   0.00027095 BTC   12.69525009 BTC   Confirmed
33901   2018-04-10 01:02   00:23:59   3.145 Eh/s   69.44 Th/s   0.00027396 BTC   12.66235828 BTC   Confirmed
33900   2018-04-10 00:38   01:31:59   3.156 Eh/s   68.81 Th/s   0.00026848 BTC   12.56620147 BTC   Confirmed
33899   2018-04-09 23:06   01:22:16   3.081 Eh/s   69.54 Th/s   0.00028001 BTC   12.66047494 BTC   Confirmed

Obviously the reward changes a bit as the total hashrate of the pool is different every time but as you can see, if we use .000265 as the average reward, divide by 5 and 0.000053 per block, per 13.5TH S9.

Now between BTC.com's 0.000859815 and Slushpool's 0.000053 per block, Slushpool would have to hit 16.22292452830189 blocks in order to equal BTC.com in pay.

https://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=24hours  As you can see Slush is not so hot these days, they barely find 16 blocks a day. Between Slush and BTC.com pool; it's a gamble with Slush, if they hit above that mark, you're up for the day. This sounds better for Slush now, when BTC.com was paying .00007, it was really tough to justify Slush.

Here is where it gets complicated in comparison to Kano, due to the extremely long ramp-up 'N' time as well as the fact that this pool has grown exponentially in the past 2 months.
Look at these rewards from the crazy lucky streak, back when I had only three 13.5 plugged in, and fully ramped up.

516020   2018-Mar-31 20:47   12.66858129   17.337T   213hr 20m 55s   96.95PHs   0.04%   7.338G   41.03THs   0.00536169
515930   2018-Mar-31 02:59   12.52731734   17.373T   219hr 21m 31s   94.49PHs   0.04%   7.542G   41.02THs   0.00543824
515768   2018-Mar-30 02:09   12.42904762   17.329T   226hr 56m 50s   91.10PHs   0.05%   7.806G   41.03THs   0.00559841
515733   2018-Mar-29 21:11   12.55251359   17.335T   228hr 51m 5s   90.37PHs   0.05%   7.872G   41.04THs   0.00570009
515627   2018-Mar-29 05:24   12.80891903   17.326T   235hr 5m 21s   87.93PHs   0.05%   8.088G   41.04THs   0.00597906

Here we see that my hashrate did not change but the pool grew from 87.93 to 96.95, just over 10% growth. In order to try and make it a relevant comparison, let's compare blocks 515733 and 515930 as they have the closest reward value. (albeit off by .025 btc)
My value: .00544(round up 0.0001 value due to 12.527 vs 12.552) / 0.00570= .95263158
Pool Hash: 94.49 / 90.37 = .9563975
Therefore we see that the change in pool hashrate reflects on my reward in almost 1:1 proportionate impact, likely even closer in value than we see here due to decimal place roundoffs.

For my own intents and purposes, it comes down to the math between BTC.com's  80.5 (my hashrate) * 0.00006369 = 0.005127045 daily payouts, or taking a chance on Kano.
I never actually got all 80.5 ramped up yet on Kano but my closest were the following:

517766   2018-Apr-11 22:53   12.46209736   17.597T   147hr 38m 28s   142.20PHs   0.04%   7.486G   60.49THs   0.00530171
517439   2018-Apr-09 22:14   12.42955536   17.635T   157hr 58m 38s   133.18PHs   0.06%   10.442G   78.86THs   0.00735984
517236   2018-Apr-08 14:46   12.51144999   17.607T   168hr 7m 29s   124.95PHs   0.06%   10.096G   71.65THs   0.00717432
516833   2018-Apr-06 02:10   12.41349521   17.627T   184hr 34m 31s   113.94PHs   0.05%   8.679G   56.10THs   0.00611235

This was during the time I experimented elsewhere while leaving one 13.0 on Kano, and then coming back.

Unfortunately I need a better understanding of or a better written explanation of the ramp process with regards to changes in personal hashrate and its effects on ramp calculation in order to ascertain whether there is some kind of sweet spot.. for example whether going to Slush or Btc.com until Kano hits x% shares, and then coming back would be beneficial or not in comparison to just sitting on here the whole time, etc. (I see the

Would love to know more details on how exactly that long ramp up impacts rewards (I am not a math wizard by any means but I am genuinely curious) and how the calculations fluctuate when you're not just plugged in 24/7, because even after having experimented around, I'm not sure if I'm calculating the differences correctly or able to calculate hypothetically since I'm trying to make sense of the results to figure out the formula (ramp up vs ramp loss), nor am I sure whether I lost money by jumping to the hot pool then coming back or not. (I understand the fundamental difference between PPS and PPLNS, but the long ramp up period throws me off on calculating possibilities.. sometimes shifts get paid 6+ times, sometimes only 3-4 times.. etc)

As you can see though if you do stay fully ramped up, if and when this pool hits a lucky stride, it blows any other pool out of the water. Look at the last four blocks of March, 0.02208 BTC with 41.04 TH's in 3 days. I don't know what BTC.com was paying at that time but even with a .00007 assumption, 3 days would've only paid 0.008505 on three 13.5's. 0.02208 - 0.008505 = 0.013575 BTC. Huge difference for 3 Antminers. Of course one has to consider the ramp up time leading upto this streak, and the cost of that along the way.

I got some of that hash that Shaggy would really enjoy, in exchange for some of that mystery hash. 

Russian account farmer 100% lol.

Maybe I have a misconception on the PPLNS thing and am operating on false logic.. but are you able to reveal what the n time is for mph? specifically zen?

Just switched over to test MPH and have a few machines pointed at Zencash... getting really good rewards for shorter rounds but ridiculously small rewards for longer rounds... what is the ramp up time here? n time?

0.00244328 Zen for a 62 minute round with 7000+ sols ....

Not spreading fud just trying to understand ty.

  sad to see the ratio between pool avg hash/my avg hash/reward per block now compared to just a month ago! All for the greater good though.

Please contact me with your info as we'd be interested in carrying these in stock.

With all the coupons floating around, serious question for you my fellow Kanonians....

How close are we to a miner revolution? I'm presently in process of upgrading to 40~ miner strong and as I am nearing the end of the upgrade process for electricity, I am weary of investing heavily now into this generation of 13.5 THs miners..

Appreciate your insight.

If one has the resources to make that talk productive, who would be the ideal person to reach out to @ Canaan?

Thanks Kano.

Right, I was writing hastily and didn't think about how silly that sounded (works best on a given pool). I just meant if one firmware works better than the other and whether I should upgrade them.. Was hoping that they may have made minor hashing gains through firmware improvements since 2.23..

Good evening fellow Kanonians.. (what do you call a Kano pool member anyway?)

As you may remember (or likely not because I'm not that interesting) I had 3 S9's plugged into our pool 3 weeks ago. Increased to 5 today, and a 6th one to be plugged in tomorrow.

Of the five S9's presently plugged in, four of them show May 2017, and one of them Dec 2016 in the main status page of the miner.

Which leads me to my question regarding firmware.

The four of them have two each, 2.47 and 2.52. The December unit shows 2.32.

Is there a preferred version that "works best" with our pool? Is it a good idea to update to latest version? Anything to avoid? Best practices for updating?

Thank you in advance for your time and replies, found lots of dated info when I attempted to search.

$1500 per S9 /w pSU?

The luckiest day in pool history was my birthday and this absurd luck spree started when I plugged in here beginning of March...



....  coincidence?



Absolutely.

Greetings, and mine on

Gonna hit refresh one last time tonight I said... 

Could be interested but stupid PM limit (account is old but seldom use it I guess it never "leveled up") for the day, if you can PM me a means of contacting you..whatever platform you prefer.