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Re: Биткоин дебит карта
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Cryptozero
on 16/12/2015, 18:22:49 UTC
Всем привет!

В настоящее время проходит праздничный розыгрыш денежных призов и бесплатных дебетовых карт от E-Coin.

Главный Приз - 100 долларов (в биткоинах естественно Smiley!

Всем активным участникам - бесплатные виртуальные дебетовые биткоин карты.
Все что требуется от участников - помощь в популяризации проекта посредством лайков, ретвиттов, подписки на канал и т.д.

Все подробности (на английском) - https://www.e-coin.io/promo

Время конкурса ограничено!
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Re: Bitcoin debit card
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Cryptozero
on 18/10/2015, 14:47:18 UTC
Hello , I received your email and I'am interested on investing however it seems like I'am not able to do it and I'd like to know why ?
What I'am supposed to select here ? (knowing that I don't really have much money , just like to buy small) or this is for millionaires ?

http://i.imgur.com/5Hnkglh.png

Hi mate!
This is not for millionaires - this is for our loyal customers first of all and for anyone in the bitcoin community. The selection is up to you really, it is more of a standard questionnaire to evaluate your risk appetite which all investment platforms have to make you fill

Oh understood then I'm going to invest I guess , but still don't get it , how I'm supposed to get my money back and where exactly I will get it and what are the factors that will get me money back + profit ? I'm not that much of an investor.

I would like to invest $200 is that enough for the start?
I would be happy to see if there is any business plan that you made inside the company and how have you planned to payback the investors, immediately from the first month or how, these information are very important to us.


Thanks for your interest. £250 equivalent is the minimal amount of investments. You can request documents via the platform.
Hope it helps.
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Re: [ANN] BIT-X.com | Bitcoin Debit Card | No Monthly Fees!
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Cryptozero
on 30/08/2015, 10:42:15 UTC
Of course, it is. I personally together with many other Bitcoin users prefer to pay less especially if there is no clear benefit.

Clear benefit and paying less? You should use Bit-X!

Let's say I order a EUR card from e-coin and use it at a non-EUR ATM. I'll have these fees: 3% foreign transaction fee + $3.50 Int. ATM fee + ~4% (rounded down from ~4.3%) 'hidden' exchange fee (I used your current rate of $222.57 per bitcoin compared to preev.com's $232.7 per bitcoin). Total: 0.015 BTC + ~7% in fees. Plus the possibility that the exchange rate has gone up between when I sold my BTC to fund the card and actually used the funds.

Now a quick comparison to a foreign transaction using the Bit-X card. Fees: 3% ATM fee + 0.01 BTC. Total: 0.01 BTC + 3%.



Let's take e-coin's 'best case scenario' (using a EUR card at a EUR ATM). Fees: $2.50 ATM fee + ~4% (rounded down from ~4.3%) 'hidden' exchange fee (I used your current rate of $222.57 per bitcoin compared to preev.com's $232.7 per bitcoin). Total: 0.011 BTC + ~4%.

Comparison to a transaction using the Bit-X card in the same currency. Fees: 3% ATM fee + 0.01 BTC. Total: 0.01 BTC + 3%.

The benefit with the Bit-X card? No need to manually fund it, let alone sell your BTC in advance!




In both cases Bit-X has the lower total fee for an ATM transaction. I've not included others costs such as ordering, shipping, activation, funding (e-coin only?) and monthly fees (e-coin only).



But you're right. Many Bitcoin users prefer to pay less and have clear benefit. It's up to the individual to choose!

Not true!

USD case
1BTC
                   BIT-X       E-Coin
      
Rate USD/BTC   228.00      222.42
             (no guarantee)   
      
ATM                    9.12             2.5 (the fixed charge per an ATM withdrawal)
   (you pay more if you withdraw more)
Receive         218.88       219.92

2 BTC      
Rate USD/BTC   456.00   444.84
         (no guarantee)   
      
ATM                 18.24              2.5
      
Receive (ATM)   437.76   442.34
3 BTC      
Rate USD/BTC   684.00   667.26
          (no guarantee)   
      
ATM                 27.36             2.5
      
Receive (ATM)   656.64   664.76

10 BTC      
Rate USD/BTC   2280.00   2224.2
             (no guarantee)   
      
ATM                    91.2          2.5
      
Receive (ATM)   2188.80   2221.7

Same with EUR/GBP etc.

E-Coin maintenance fee of $1 includes the SMS service, and E-Coin does not have any inactivity fee.
 
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Re: [ANN] BIT-X.com | Bitcoin Debit Card | No Monthly Fees!
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Cryptozero
on 29/08/2015, 18:58:43 UTC
I would not say that conversions made at POSs is that great feature. First of all, a customer is not aware at what rate he is making a transaction, so basically he would need to go somewhere to check the current BTC rate (presumably, to Bit-X or Xapo websites). Therefore, I would not call it convenient and easy to check btc rates every time you are going to make a card transaction.



Mosts users (myself included) check the exchange rate regularly so they already have an idea of the rate at the time of their transaction. If a specific rate must be known, a simple widget on a user's smartphone will do the job.

Do you really enjoy checking the rate when paying for the next pint at the pub?

At E-Coin you need to make a conversion once, being able to choose from 3 fiat currency. It takes literally a second. Afterwards, you can pay with applicable fiat not worrying about rates, fees etc.

Once, but in advance. Most crypto users prefer to deal in terms of BTC rather than fiat. This means they would prefer to hang on to their BTC for as long as possible before initiating a transaction, which you can't do with e-coin. Why use BTC at all, if you just convert all or most of it into fiat for spending over time?

With E-Coin you can do the same, the conversion takes seconds and you see what you get straightaway.

Bitcoin can help people to avoid paying extra fees to banks.

True!
However, with this "true-debit-card-solution" users will be always at risk of being charged due to possible unfair rate or lose money due to market fluctuations.

You just described the issue with e-coin and other prepaid cards (that must be preloaded).

With Bit-X you charge customers for every transaction, even online ones, which is ridiculous.

Strictly speaking your cards are also preloaded but with bitcoins. Moreover, you also require a deposit, which E-Coin does not.

Fees are straightforward: 0.01 BTC + 3% for ATM transactions | 0.002 BTC + 1% for POS transactions (which is either in-store or online).

It is a way higher compared to E-Coin.

And this is really strange that you tell everyone that your technology is built on something else rather than a prepaid one and the same applies to Xapo.

It may be the same cards but the infrastructure built behind it is very different, which enables these real-time conversions.

E-Coin conversions are real time as well.
The most important: what is the point in a technology that do not improve functionality and convenience and customers have to pay more?

As I described above, the conversion at POS may have some advantages and disadvantages but it is pretty much the same solution anyway Wink

In the end, it's up to a user to decide what they prefer and what suits them best.

For me (and many other Bitcoin enthusiasts) I want to keep my holdings in BTC/LTC for as long as possible and only spend exactly what's needed only when I swipe the card.


Of course, it is. I personally together with many other Bitcoin users prefer to pay less especially if there is no clear benefit.
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Re: [ANN] BIT-X.com | Bitcoin Debit Card | No Monthly Fees!
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Cryptozero
on 29/08/2015, 17:10:38 UTC
I would not say that conversions made at POSs is that great feature. First of all, a customer is not aware at what rate he is making a transaction, so basically he would need to go somewhere to check the current BTC rate (presumably, to Bit-X or Xapo websites). Therefore, I would not call it convenient and easy to check btc rates every time you are going to make a card transaction.
At E-Coin you need to make a conversion once, being able to choose from 3 fiat currency. It takes literally a second. Afterwards, you can pay with applicable fiat not worrying about rates, fees etc.

Bitcoin can help people to avoid paying extra fees to banks. However, with this "true-debit-card-solution" users will be always at risk of being charged due to possible unfair rate or lose money due to market fluctuations.
With Bit-X you charge customers for every transaction, even online ones, which is ridiculous.

And this is really strange that you tell everyone that your technology is built on something else rather than a prepaid one and the same applies to Xapo.
As I described above, the conversion at POS may have some advantages and disadvantages but it is pretty much the same solution anyway Wink