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Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea
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DeepBlue
on 26/08/2014, 20:31:28 UTC
Oi Truthful, ol' buddy boy! Or is it Chang, Gugly, Klitoris? Well, whatever you call yourself these days, I have a serious question for you man.

How do I get into your gang of fudsters? Nah, really, I need some btc to buy a bunch of URO, XC and maybe KEY - while they're cheap, ya' know?
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Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea
by
DeepBlue
on 11/08/2014, 12:14:34 UTC
NOW COMPARE THIS LVL OF CONVERSATION..

Gugli, i took the liberty of typing the questions so we dont have to clog this shit up with images. disclaimer, I am not a part of the uro foundation, protocol, or any affiliation other than i have been a moderator on the irc which i was asked to help with as maybe a vanity position as i donated 1.5BTC to block cypher project. needless to say any answers are my own thoughts on the questions which were not answered in depth enough by Bohan for your standards, or which were pawned off from Bohan to GES and remain unanswered.
NILESH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS? BOHAN IS NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT.
http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/uro-interview-with-bohan-huang-32-questions-from-the-community
2 why would urea producers use a public crypto instead of a private crypto only for them? it seems hard to believe the produces will bind to the price set by daytraders…
5 Will IPL release who won the bids and for what amount of urea they won?
7 Will Nilesh Nair do a Q&A or a Reddit AMA if RIVAA wins the contract?
8 When will we be introduced to other members of the URO foundation. (we already know names). What are the responsibilities of each foundation member? Will there be any interview with other foundation members also? What made them join URO foundation
11 Why are the NIERs not educating their existing customers about URO? Thats an assumption: A better question is - Are the efforts by the NIERS to educate their customers benefitting the URO holders and daytraders for the long term as opposed to any expected daily volatility on exchange prices
12 Are NIERs educating their existing customers? And if so, how are they doing so?
14 A ltd company is a legal entity how is it possible for a legal entity to donate millions of dollars to charity per year 5 years before it existed? (in reference to GES first incorporation in 2008 and bold claims made on GES website about giving $3-4m usd away per year to rural farmers since 2003)
15 Normally when a business gives vast sums to charity its for PR since GES have no news reports regarding the $3-4 million they give to rural farmers each year what was the business strategy behind this move?
17 As we all are aware that RIVAA has made a trade with URO for UREA. They are already aware of the whole process and there is no need to convince them any more. So, even if they do not win any tender even in the coming year, they can buy a lot of UROs at a great discount >95% to 50% now. They can quote tender the next season when IPL issues tenders. Or, they can sell urea to those who won the tender at a lesser price. What could be the reason the URO foundation is not able to conince them to do so?
25 It’s clear from the Australian government records Nilesh is in the winding up stage of insolvency proceedings from Impact Security Systems. Why is he unable to pay off his Australian creditors but able to subside 100’s of millions of dollars worth of urea to customers?
30 So does 1 uro really equal 1 mt urea? How is this so? who is providing the urea?
Provide better answer why BITCOIN could not be used instead of UROCOIN
32 Last question Why does uro need a whole new coin instead of using bitcoin or becoming a sidechain?
Provide better answer why BITCOIN could not be used instead of UROCOIN
2 a private crypto would be harder to secure, require centralized mining done at the office, and require pruchase of hardware and expenditure of electircity, these may be something they are not willing to undertake (though obviously could afford). if they were to only run a few miners they would leave the network open to hacks and 51% attacks easily. daytraders and speculators are not the end user, we're just keeping them warm for the businesses which will use them. the miners and our interest are what will keep the coin healthy until it is picked up by the businesses who will exchange them for urea
5 the July 21st Tender results are: http://pastebin.com/pYvbAfFJ Liven won by offering 120k urea at 274.77$ someone else can chime in i believe IPL is able to purchase more from others if they need it. something in my head stick out about this being a 1 million tender maybe im confusing the amount. if it was 1 million they'd just use the next handful of lowest bidders
7 Nilesh did the video I doubt hed do an AMA. as we can see Rivaa did not win the tender for July 21st, though according to the GES press release when Rivaa did complete the transaction they mentioned 2 other companies interested but did not state names. there is no way to know if those other 2 companies are a. winners of the ipl tender, or b. transacting uro>urea.
8 The information for Ureatradingindia was released in IRC yesterday, while Bohan said they were made aware their site lacks contact info, it has been offline since then most likely for a revamp. It is my opinion that all 4 niers are affiliated with GES as Vinnisean Pillay and Sigar Singh are representatives on GES commody site. Since their information has been there they dont need a formal introduction. its always been stated to verify with hk@gescommodity.com who will pass your information to the proper channel. obviously none of us speculators are real importers or we'd have some real information to share with eachother.
11 We can reasonably assume they are informing the clients who have the highest likelyhood of engaging in such a transaction and giving them the information. the daytraders have nothing to do with what the niers are up to. customers of theirs who are going to do buys with uro may cause a price spike if they buy in at once but are not responsible for long term or short term pricing.as 1 million of uro are transferred to the niers the well will dry up and the price will be forced to rise. so long as it provides double digit saving on bank transactions and is worth while to use as a payment vehicle. it will be bought and used as intended.
12 I dont think we need to micromanage the niers just because Bohan hasnt let us proofread documents about uro doesnt mean they dont exist or at least exist in some word of mouth format to anyone calling the niers for normal transactions.
14 Nilesh states on the video that GES started in 1998 in Cairo
15 they may have gotten press in a newspaper which would leave no digital trace. maybe they do it as a tax writeoff
17 maybe theyre waiting to get their uro before buying the book, or maybe they have no clue what to do with 1 million in uro. their business probably isnt built on speculation
25 the GES insolvency was shown to be resolved as per the records purchased here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/234251300/Green-Earth-credit-report though we dont have any information about nilesh bankruptcy proceedings, i imagine its a private matter.
30 when an order comes through the nier responsible for filling the order has 60-90 days to get urea from the manufacturer closest to the port they will use to that port. the nier would pay for the urea, and accept the uro. a buyer sends a boat to the niers port of choice and the urea is tested and loaded. that completes the transaction, buyer is responsible for navigating the urea to back to their base of operations.
32 it would be fine just to convince these people to use bitcoin, the object was to set up something with a stable price, not that its hard to worry that 1 metric ton costs .4 or .6 bitcoin at current price, the best way that uro helps is in the hedge function. if you want to just buy urea with fiat or bitcoin then whenever you want to buy it get your money or bitcoin together and do it (no risk there) but if you like the current price of $300 per uro you cant buy a bitcoin and expect it to be worth ~2 tons of urea sometime down the road, bitcoin could go up or down, and urea could go up or down. whatever amount of uro you get now is worth that amount in urea anytime from now until 10 years form now (how long the current protocol is valid) this is a hedge against fat, bitcoin, and urea price fluctuations.


WITH THIS CHILDISH DRIBBLE...

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Re: [XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy / Encrypted XChat / Privacy Platform
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DeepBlue
on 01/08/2014, 03:22:58 UTC
Still xcelling in the anon arena, and in spite of constant improvements, still heavily undervalued in the generic uninformed circles. Infos are hard to avoid though, in this age of ours, and it won't be long now until XC receives its due recognition.

Keep up this xceptional progress to a more liberated world, and may Athena patron your endeavors!
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Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea
by
DeepBlue
on 26/07/2014, 15:55:51 UTC
I have been reading Uro thread for quite sometime, including the previous Uro thread that has been closed now, due to FUDsters horrible acts. Similar to other crypto threads in the bitcointalk.org, FUDsters are always present. How to deal with those FUDsters ? First, let's keep ourselves cool and calm in dealing with those FUDsters. I am "coolncalm" - new bitcointalk username.

I also found a good way in handling those FUDsters which have been implemented very well by the Vericoin community, which I strongly suggest that Uro community implement similar (or better) way of handling those FUDsters.

Here are the pointers in handling those FUDsters as in the Vericoin thread:

1. NEVER quote whatever the FUDsters post. If we still want to reply to those FUDsters, we do reply WITHOUT quoting his/her post.

2. Make a FUD List and a FUD Poll in which Uro community members can vote which of the FUDster rank as the top FUDster of the week. Members can vote once in 24 hours. Please visit Vericoin FUD List and FUD Poll here at http://www.vericoinish.com/index.php/blog/the-fud-list.

Quote from the above Vericoin link:

"Know Your FUDsters
We are all aware of people out there that love to spread Fear Uncertainty and Doubt but if you are new to the forums --- ALL THE FORUMS then this is a list you can use so you know who to ignore or block so you can just get the facts."  
"
The FUD Poll
Who are this weeks FUDsters?

    Bobsurplus
    barabbas
    kenji

View   Vote
"

3. Put the link to the FUD List and FUD Poll on the top page of Uro thread permanently. Also put the link within the thread page and bump it once in a while if necessary, i.e: when a FUDster is present or just for the sake of bump.


Hope this post gives positive contribution to Uro community.

coolncalm

I agree, even though it's sometimes funny to laugh at their psychosis, quoting them just looks ugly.
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Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea
by
DeepBlue
on 26/07/2014, 01:09:19 UTC
Thanks davisgreen for cleaning up all that Chang.

Yes. I never saw so much Chang in my life.
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Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea
by
DeepBlue
on 25/07/2014, 15:49:02 UTC
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Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea
by
DeepBlue
on 16/07/2014, 14:35:25 UTC
And YOU guyz need to understand OUR freedom to kick you out for repeated, baseless slander
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Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea
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DeepBlue
on 15/07/2014, 13:27:38 UTC
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Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea
by
DeepBlue
on 14/07/2014, 17:24:26 UTC
The only real scam i see is in our minds already. We're scammed to fear the change, resent our best motives and stay in the rotten system.
It is the greatest scam in all the history, it seems to me, to make a man a willing slave. Yet that obvious FUD is so easily sold.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson

Do your own research in everything.
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Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea
by
DeepBlue
on 13/07/2014, 14:20:15 UTC
A serious article from an unbiased journalist:

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/uro-appears-to-be-the-real-deal-and-here-is-why

Notice the words "appears" and "seems", extensive references, and the complete lack of insults and slanders.
Altherald, maybe you could learn to write like that sometime, huh?
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Re: [ANN][MIN] Minerals - POS. Fair Distribution. E-SPORTS BETTING TEST WENT LIVE!
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DeepBlue
on 12/07/2014, 18:15:12 UTC
Ive just read across the tread a bit and must say I like this community.
Glad to be apart of this lovely experiment - let's see some wealth go to creative people, for a change:)
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Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea
by
DeepBlue
on 12/07/2014, 11:57:23 UTC
URO seems to be evolving according to schedule. No surprise, with such an advanced community.

Honestly, it was fairly obvious it wasn't a scam a long time ago,
for anyone with the basic knowledge of Google. And for those who are desperately looking for the "sure thing",
they'll find it in death n' taxes, I'm sure.

I'm actually missing our repetitive malefactors a little, KryptoSensei and his yokels, and that silly herald,
they were such a source of laughter for me the past few days. Remember the big red scam signs?
They are probably buying some URO as we speak.

Also, check out some URO bounties if you like, for the new post logo and graphics/theme designs:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683256.msg7749504#msg7749504

P.S. I'm glad to see some Persian guyz here joined Sparta Wink
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Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer
by
DeepBlue
on 11/07/2014, 23:02:23 UTC
Got you going didn't I Cheesy Now swallow this one.

Quote from: choppy123 on 11. July at 03:19:55 AM

very passionate dev, I've felt his anger towards the 1% since 2008 stock market crash and I didn't lose a penny in that crash and I am thankful that my job was resilient to that crash. I had many friends and family that were not as fortunate as me to weather the storm. It is my job now to do something about worldwide corruption in a productive manner. We need anyone and everyone onboard with URO so that we can take on these big bank motherfukers who have scammed humanity for the past 100 years. Violent protest is not needed just URO investment, a very simple peaceful way to protest indeed Smiley

Here's the link to the Bohan interview that was live on youtube an hour ago and has since been posted there. Any skeptics please watch this and ignore any fudders in this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsHF0C_gPck
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Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer
by
DeepBlue
on 11/07/2014, 22:53:27 UTC
Quote from: aidanok on July 10, 2014, 03:11:23 PM

Anyone who says this is a scam is etheir

a) Trying to drive the price down
b) Bitter about not getting in
c) Doesn't understand why bitcoin and blockchain technology is such a useful thing for society.

This coin is the best alternate use of the blockchain technology since bitcoin. It's the only altcoin going out and solving a real world problem and giving purchasers and suppliers massive savings over traditional methods.

People wonder where all the 'free money' is coming from. It's coming from the fact Urea buyers will no longer have to pay hundres of thousands of dollars in fees to banks and middlemen for each deal. It's bitcoin 101.   
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Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer
by
DeepBlue
on 11/07/2014, 22:47:56 UTC
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Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer
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DeepBlue
on 11/07/2014, 17:40:40 UTC
If people were smart they would ask themselves this question: Who is KryptoSenseiMaster? What are his objectives, drooling on the forum day and night - and why cant he just let it go and go buy some URO?

Those are all tough questions, and being lobotomized, KryptoSenseiMaster cannot answer them himself.
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Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer
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DeepBlue
on 11/07/2014, 17:25:24 UTC
Glad to see the price stable. I bought some a couple of days ago and every time I woke up it grew.

And the whole thing yesterday (or was it today?Smiley was just amazing! Such transparency and honesty in a business world I never saw.

History in the making.
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Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer
by
DeepBlue
on 11/07/2014, 03:21:39 UTC
Incredible turn of events Smiley
What will be the next dramatic climax and will the yokels finally give up and leave the tread to buy some UROs?
Not Likely.
Stay tuned....
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Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer
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DeepBlue
on 11/07/2014, 02:54:49 UTC
"THIS IS A AUSTRILIAN-CHINESE AND INDIAN/PAK SCAM"

ahhhahah you forgot the nazis
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Re: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer
by
DeepBlue
on 11/07/2014, 02:28:35 UTC
KryptoSenseiMaster, my pesky friend, I see you are still here with us.

Oh man, I feel like I know you, reading your dribble the past few days. My ol’ chum, what’s up with you?
Except being paid to be rude and hated, off course. And I see you’ve put your favourite article up again
- the one from the daffy herald. Who coaxed you into wasting your life, you wretch?

And you’ve also been so creative, bolding and coloring your words and making slander signs like a good little slave – bravo!

Perhaps there is a place for such as you somewhere as well, not here though.