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Re: [ANN] [ILC] ILCOIN-WHERE NOT ONLY CRYPTOCURRENCY IS SMART
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DiggerMan
on 12/09/2019, 20:36:34 UTC
Is level 16 maximum level on Age of Ilcoin, does anyone knows?

Yes, level 16 is the maximum for now.

I see that no one mentioned it here, but today one of their admins in the telegram group said that there might be new game out soon.
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Re: WW3 About to start HK/China/U.N
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DiggerMan
on 23/08/2019, 08:05:59 UTC
The US could never beat China. Just think how many Chinese restaurants there are in the US, and many of them probably employ military "sleepers". Another problem would the the electronics in the US weapons - isn't much of it Chinese? Then of course there is the problem of rare earths - the Chinese control that market, and the US needs a good supply of rare earths for its electronics and weapons.

There cant be any winners  in a wars between U.S, Russia and China.All 3 countries are too big and they have nuclear missiles, therefore even if someone of those 3  starts WW3, it wont end up well for anyone.These big countries having nukes keep this status quo.

I so much disagree with you that there can't be a winner. Even China and Russia knew for sure they are no match to the USA Military. Yes, they too have Nuclear Missiles but USA has stronger and more sophisticated Nuclear defense system. US Military budget is twice more than that of Russia and China combined. Most of the China's military hardware are just what they managed to steal from the USA over the 25years of international espionage made possible by the weak leadership of Bushes, Jimmy Carter, Clinton, and Obama.

Now, America is back and modernizing its military hardware. What China stole will soon be rendered obsolete. We didn't pull out of nuclear treaty for nothing, in fact, Russia and China are currently jittery. All the years of holding America down with one hand through some useless treaties, while developing their military with the other hand are over.

Any direct confrontation with the USA will lead to the end of China and Russia.

America is expert in Espionage, Cold Wars, and Open Confrontations. I don't see any country anywhere in the world as credible challenge. National pride may tell you differently but the reality is there's none. 

There is status quo for a good reason, America knows that they simply can't attack China or Russia, as retaliation would mean deaths of dozens of millions of Americans. Do you think that win would be worth it if Los Angeles, Washington, Chicago and all major cities are destroyed and unhabitable for decades?
Same goes for Russia and China. They won't attack America as they know they would loose more than them, and those countries are too big to conquer them by invasion.
To explain it to you this way, would you attack me if you knew that in that case you would loose an arm, and me loosing an arm and leg? Would you consider that victory worth attacking? And that is why we never saw nuclear powers engaging in direct confrontation.

Can you give me an example when America attacked nuclear power?
We all saw what happened in Ukraine,and America didn't dare to go there and help them. If it was some non nuclear power, rest assured they would come.
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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019
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DiggerMan
on 22/08/2019, 15:30:36 UTC
What else is new? Team USA will just dominate this again. Giannis with the Bucks can't win the championship in the NBA. And his team mates in Greece won't be better than the Bucks. Unless USA won't have their top 5 players on board. KD and Klay are injured. Curry won't probably play. Leonard, PG and Irving will be busy creating chemistry with their new teams.   Cheesy
You think Popovich is that dumb not to pick good players? This roster of USA for this FIBA 2019 is massive and I know they can ball and penetrate in and out of the court. If there are team that can go head to head with them that's for sure Serbia again or perhaps Spain.
That's now depends on how the coach will work with what he got, team US still have the pride to protect from this tournament and for sure even without that much of superstars they will still push it forward to keep the chance winning again the title, there's competitive teams who also composed by good players, it's gonna be a challenging tournament for team US.

I think Popovich is the strongest part of this US team. He is with Phil Jackson the best NBA coach in the last 25-30 years, and he has tremendous experience.Another important thing is that his team (Spurs) always played team basketball, someone would even say European kind of basketball  so i have no doubts that he will get the best from the players he got, there is no better coach for that task at the moment in the world.
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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019
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DiggerMan
on 21/08/2019, 17:01:47 UTC
Greece may not have a big chance but we are talking about the national team that has the latest MVP of NBA, lets not put that aside, if the teams go head to head or even close for long enough then Giannis may just go berzerk and finish the game for his team, I am not saying it will happen but having a player like that would make any team have a slight chance of going all the way.

USA has a horrible team this year compared to what they used to have but these are still elite NBA players so most likely they will destroy whoever they go against, however it will not be like Angola-USA 60 point game type of situation anymore, it would be more like they are beating them by 10 points on average type of situation. More exhibition matches would have show us more info but the games about to start in 10 days or so, we can still wait.

If you believe that Greece will win because of Giannis, I don't think he will be able to lead his team to win.
He was only an MVP because the play in regular season is different in the Finals, and this FIBA is like the Finals so I believe every team that might possibly face Giannis team have already scouted their best player and like what the Raptors did, if they can stop Giannis, they'll surely win.

You are right man - of course he has the class to find ways, of course Greece needs to take better advantage of him than they did vs Serbia for example - and I am sure they will figure this out - still, the style of play is different than in NBA and if opponents defend him like raptors (and Serbia did), he will have to pass the ball many times, which is not a problem usually - with Greece it is though... we dont have shooters...

That is true, Giannis will be focus of the defense,  but in order to capitalise that, and as you said you need quality shooters.In the last friendly  game against Serbia, unfortunately that aspect didn't look good. If  i remember correctly, Fotsis was an excellent 3 pts shooter, isn't he still active?

He retired long ago - man, remember the good old times when we had Fotsis, Spanoulis, Diamantidis, Papaloukas all in one team - what a crazy lineup

OMG i just checked him, seems like he is playing for my neighbourhood local team, Ilysiakos,  club where he started his career.Another interesting fact, recently injured Ioannis Athinaiou also started his career there. They currently play in 4th division, i will definitely check them out as they play their games literally few hundred meters away from my apartment in Ilisia  Cheesy. That's why my wife told me that he met him many times in the neighbourhood., but somehow i missed him in the last few years since i live in Athens.
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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019
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DiggerMan
on 21/08/2019, 16:12:39 UTC
Greece may not have a big chance but we are talking about the national team that has the latest MVP of NBA, lets not put that aside, if the teams go head to head or even close for long enough then Giannis may just go berzerk and finish the game for his team, I am not saying it will happen but having a player like that would make any team have a slight chance of going all the way.

USA has a horrible team this year compared to what they used to have but these are still elite NBA players so most likely they will destroy whoever they go against, however it will not be like Angola-USA 60 point game type of situation anymore, it would be more like they are beating them by 10 points on average type of situation. More exhibition matches would have show us more info but the games about to start in 10 days or so, we can still wait.

If you believe that Greece will win because of Giannis, I don't think he will be able to lead his team to win.
He was only an MVP because the play in regular season is different in the Finals, and this FIBA is like the Finals so I believe every team that might possibly face Giannis team have already scouted their best player and like what the Raptors did, if they can stop Giannis, they'll surely win.

You are right man - of course he has the class to find ways, of course Greece needs to take better advantage of him than they did vs Serbia for example - and I am sure they will figure this out - still, the style of play is different than in NBA and if opponents defend him like raptors (and Serbia did), he will have to pass the ball many times, which is not a problem usually - with Greece it is though... we dont have shooters...

That is true, Giannis will be focus of the defense,  but in order to capitalise that, and as you said you need quality shooters.In the last friendly  game against Serbia, unfortunately that aspect didn't look good. If  i remember correctly, Fotsis was an excellent 3 pts shooter, isn't he still active?
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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019
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DiggerMan
on 21/08/2019, 09:14:24 UTC
Greece may not have a big chance but we are talking about the national team that has the latest MVP of NBA, lets not put that aside, if the teams go head to head or even close for long enough then Giannis may just go berzerk and finish the game for his team, I am not saying it will happen but having a player like that would make any team have a slight chance of going all the way.

USA has a horrible team this year compared to what they used to have but these are still elite NBA players so most likely they will destroy whoever they go against, however it will not be like Angola-USA 60 point game type of situation anymore, it would be more like they are beating them by 10 points on average type of situation. More exhibition matches would have show us more info but the games about to start in 10 days or so, we can still wait.

If you believe that Greece will win because of Giannis, I don't think he will be able to lead his team to win.
He was only an MVP because the play in regular season is different in the Finals, and this FIBA is like the Finals so I believe every team that might possibly face Giannis team have already scouted their best player and like what the Raptors did, if they can stop Giannis, they'll surely win.

Tats possible that Greece is scouted by other team's but they sure will make an adjustment for it. In my point of view, yes Greece will not win this FIBA championship as what you have said because there are other super teams that are more deadly than them. Spain and USA are my favorite to win this prestigious tournament.
We saw the recent game between the Spain and the US, and that pretty tells that the USA team is the better team as they won against the Spain which is a good team as well. Spain is rank number 4 in the list of favorites to win in this competition while USA ranked no. 1 and the only team that has - odds, the rest are + odds.

Here are the list of betting odds for each team. (top 3 , USA    -240 / Serbia +350 / Greece +1000)

https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/fiba-world-cup-betting-odds

Lithuania is set kinda low, I think that they could win a medal, unless they meet United States and Serbia in the 1/4. I think that they have some chances against Greece and Spain,they wouldn't be favorites though.
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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019
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DiggerMan
on 21/08/2019, 06:12:50 UTC
What? this is a devastating moment. It's pride of their country and every country that's able to get in should participate.

This is bad, I hope that the FIBA management will step in and help them.

That will be a waste run for Nigeria if a simple budget can't be fixed. They have an allocation for that, the problem is the release. Problems like that do really happened in another country as well but why just now when the tournament is just a few weeks to go before the tip-off.

They are undefeated in the qualifiers and might have a chance to advance to their bracket as I believed they can handle, at least, Russia, Argentina, and Korea.

Sadly, this is not the first team Nigerian teams have issues like that , either due not enough money, or refusing to participate due missing  bonuses and stuff . It happened few times in football too, during World Cup and and Confederations cup.And it is a shame, for such a big and populous country.I am sure that they would be powerhouse in any sport if they are a bit more organised and set.

I guess they have some serious issues with corruption, and situation is not improving much despite the fact that  Nigeria is the 12th largest producer of petroleum in the world and the 8th largest exporter, so money shouldn't be problem.But obviously someone is taking the money instead those that actually deserved it.





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Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions
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DiggerMan
on 20/08/2019, 15:03:30 UTC

I really hope that won't happen in the end, i can't imagine player like Neymar in Juventus, im not sure that is the right club for him.

Can I ask why?

We have a new coach this year, we will have Sarri.

The game will be a tiki-taka, offensive pressing. The defensive game is part of the past and part of the Allegri's Juventus.

I don't deny that Neymar is  an excellent player, but he is also diver and primadonna, and somehow  for me he doesnt fit in the hardworking Juve and Serie A.I liked Juve since the 90s due that, and loyalty of their best players, and Neymar doesn't  fit in that picture.I sure hope they wont go for that tiki tika playstyle, that wouldnt be Juve i liked to watch for the last 20+ years.

There was one diver in Juve  that i loved tho, but he was doing it with class, great Pippo Inzaghi Cheesy
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Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions
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DiggerMan
on 19/08/2019, 20:37:28 UTC
For sure these 2 weeks will be interesting.

I'm not from Brazil so I don't know how much reliable is this journal.

https://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/futebol-internacional/noticia/juventus-entra-na-disputa-por-neymar-conversa-com-o-psg-e-estuda-envolver-dybala.ghtml

They talking about an exchange Dybala-Neymar

They need Dybala, Juventus seem to want to sell Dybala, Neymar want to leave PSG, Ronaldo is a Neymar friend, the "only problem" are the money.

Let's see if something will follow this "new" rumor.

I really hope that won't happen in the end, i can't imagine player like Neymar in Juventus, im not sure that is the right club for him.
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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019
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DiggerMan
on 19/08/2019, 18:44:15 UTC
USA is still the best team in the cup for sure but this season a lot of players didn't come because of injury risk, not because business decision, not because coaching staff, it was all because injury risk, they play 82 games a year plus playoffs for some of them and they play a much faster pace of basketball now, specially this year the offensive ratings were insanely high, we have seen increase of injured players and even so much that it impacted who became the champions, so that resting players is actually a good decision in NBA regular season let alone making them work in USA national team camps.

Other nations players do come play for those teams because they are the difference makers, if Boban and Jokic withdraws Serbia has no chance at all, when Lebron or Durant doesn't go they still have Kemba or Kuzma which is definitely still better than what alternative is for other nations.

Well, you are right and wrong at the same time.
Indeed, there is an injury risk... But there are a lot of players who play in NBA and they are not American. Yet, they are allowed to play in the World Cup. Don't they have the same injury risk as the players of the USA? It is just team decisions that raise barriers on that.

It is just different mentality.

I don't know how it is in other parts of the world, but here in Europe national team  is something very important to everyone that likes the sport. So it is normal that those players, that are raised in those countries also  care about the national team and success, knowing how much joy they can bring, and how much  people in their countries  care.I currently live in Athens, and even though i'm not Greek, it is hard not to admire how people here love watching their basketball team, everything  stops when Greece plays.

And that is why both Giannis and Jokic will play for their national teams despite heavy schedule last season, injury risks etc.And same thing Nowitzki did for years before them.While Nikos Galis was on another level, refusing an offer to play with Celtics and win few titles so he can keep playing for Greece.

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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019
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DiggerMan
on 19/08/2019, 15:06:12 UTC
Rare are players like Dirk Nowitzki who regularly played for Germany even though he was a star in NBA and great player. European players in general tend to care a lot about national team in every sport.

Best example of that is Nikos Galis,scoring machine and best Greek basketball player of all time and one of the greatest European players of all time. He refused to come back to NBA and play for then best team, Boston Celtics, and play with Bird, Parish, McHale, Walton etc and win few NBA titles just because that would mean he wouldn't be able to play for Greek national team, due stupid Fiba rules. And that meant so much to him.
Something like this is unimaginable nowadays,i hope Giannis will follow his steps.


Looking forward to Serbia vs Greece match tonight. Cold mastixa is ready, just need some gyros Smiley

US players can afford to concentrate on NBA rather than the world cup, because the Americans can easily win their matches even without the star players. They are currently on a record 77-match winning streak and no other team has come even close to beating them during the past few months. Their recent victory against Spain was just another proof of their dominance.

The other teams don't have this luxury. They depend on a few players. For example, Greece depends heavily on Giannis Antetokounmpo. Even teams such as Nigeria are dependent on the NBA players, including Al-Farouq Aminu, Chimezie Metu and Josh Okogie. And try to imagine a Spanish team without Marc Gasol and Juancho Hernangomez. Other examples are Nikola Jokic of Serbia, Cedi Osman/Ersan Ilyasova of Turkey, Tomas Satoransky of CzR, Rui Hachimura of Japan, Cristiano Felicio of Brazil and Nikola Vucevic of Montenegro.

I can agree on that, Americans have by far the longest bench, and that could really make the difference when for other nations 2nd teams are on the floor, that is opportunity i see for Americans to win this. But we also saw that players like Jokic can play crazy minutes, like he did in last NBA playoffs.

But considering in previous years i would be 100% certain that Americans are getting gold and winning every game with 20-30 pts difference, this time i am not so sure, i think that Serbia is legitimate contender for world title, if they stay healthy and they don't loose anyone else beside Teodosic.

And who knows, maybe even Greece can upset Americans again, none thought that was possible the last time Smiley


With so many canceled players for USA from start of preparation I could agree with you that Americans have little less chances to win this time. Many team can be here counted beside Serbia, think that Spain is also good pretender for title. Also this is WC in basketball and many nations have improve in last 5 years and many can do good with American team even win them. I see this as football WC where all team are becoming equal in strength. How with this said I give only 50% to USA team, rest for Serbia and Spain, and even Germany who played well in qualification and always good Lithuania. All starts 31st this month and I hope we will see good matches.


What we know for sure is that it will be very interesting World Cup, and that is what counts. Atleast something positive about all those americans cancelling..

Few teams will have legit chance for gold, and even more for the medal.
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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019
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DiggerMan
on 19/08/2019, 07:32:58 UTC
Rare are players like Dirk Nowitzki who regularly played for Germany even though he was a star in NBA and great player. European players in general tend to care a lot about national team in every sport.

Best example of that is Nikos Galis,scoring machine and best Greek basketball player of all time and one of the greatest European players of all time. He refused to come back to NBA and play for then best team, Boston Celtics, and play with Bird, Parish, McHale, Walton etc and win few NBA titles just because that would mean he wouldn't be able to play for Greek national team, due stupid Fiba rules. And that meant so much to him.
Something like this is unimaginable nowadays,i hope Giannis will follow his steps.


Looking forward to Serbia vs Greece match tonight. Cold mastixa is ready, just need some gyros Smiley

US players can afford to concentrate on NBA rather than the world cup, because the Americans can easily win their matches even without the star players. They are currently on a record 77-match winning streak and no other team has come even close to beating them during the past few months. Their recent victory against Spain was just another proof of their dominance.

The other teams don't have this luxury. They depend on a few players. For example, Greece depends heavily on Giannis Antetokounmpo. Even teams such as Nigeria are dependent on the NBA players, including Al-Farouq Aminu, Chimezie Metu and Josh Okogie. And try to imagine a Spanish team without Marc Gasol and Juancho Hernangomez. Other examples are Nikola Jokic of Serbia, Cedi Osman/Ersan Ilyasova of Turkey, Tomas Satoransky of CzR, Rui Hachimura of Japan, Cristiano Felicio of Brazil and Nikola Vucevic of Montenegro.

I can agree on that, Americans have by far the longest bench, and that could really make the difference when for other nations 2nd teams are on the floor, that is opportunity i see for Americans to win this. But we also saw that players like Jokic can play crazy minutes, like he did in last NBA playoffs.

But considering in previous years i would be 100% certain that Americans are getting gold and winning every game with 20-30 pts difference, this time i am not so sure, i think that Serbia is legitimate contender for world title, if they stay healthy and they don't loose anyone else beside Teodosic.

And who knows, maybe even Greece can upset Americans again, none thought that was possible the last time Smiley

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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019
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DiggerMan
on 18/08/2019, 19:56:14 UTC
Good game tonight, unfortunately Greece lost.

Serbia showed strength even without their best player, i didn't think that they will beat Greece tonight. They will definitely have shot for gold against Americans, Jokic is better than any other player Americans  have on their roster at the moment.
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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019
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DiggerMan
on 18/08/2019, 18:28:19 UTC
GRE - SRB starting shortly. The reporter just mentioned its not unlikely that Sloukas will be able to participate when the WC starts. Sold out by the way with more than 18.000 fans in the arena! Smiley

Yep, arena is sold out.

Greece looking good so far,but Serbia really missing their best player Jokic, Djordjevic decided to rest him this game.

Yeah and Jokic can really push his team to another level - still, Greece is also missing some players and so far I am really happy with that I am seeing - Thanassis having a great night! Smiley

Yes, I'm surprised with Thanassis, you can see that he is really eager and full of energy, and playing good. Greece will need him for WC, Giannis is awesome, but he won't be able too do everything by himself.
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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019
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DiggerMan
on 18/08/2019, 18:03:51 UTC
GRE - SRB starting shortly. The reporter just mentioned its not unlikely that Sloukas will be able to participate when the WC starts. Sold out by the way with more than 18.000 fans in the arena! Smiley

Yep, arena is sold out.

Greece looking good so far, maybe a bit too many 3 pts attempts, but Serbia really missing their best player Jokic, Djordjevic decided to rest him this game.
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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019
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DiggerMan
on 18/08/2019, 15:21:06 UTC
What has happened in USA basketball? Why does most of the players are withdrawing from playing for FIBA world cup? I think there is something that the public does not know why or is there any conflict between players and the management.
Most of the star players from the NBA that were withdrawing from Team USA were just focusing on the upcoming season, business decision as they say and there is nothing to do with conflict between them and the coaching staff. I think their move would benefit the young and upcoming superstars in the NBA as they can now showcase their talent overseas and will boast their market value.

"Business decision" is the best way to put it.  Most of these players are internationally known already and dont have to build their international brand.  If they get hurt in these international games it can have huge financial implications as well.

Rare are players like Dirk Nowitzki who regularly played for Germany even though he was a star in NBA and great player. European players in general tend to care a lot about national team in every sport.

Best example of that is Nikos Galis,scoring machine and best Greek basketball player of all time and one of the greatest European players of all time. He refused to come back to NBA and play for then best team, Boston Celtics, and play with Bird, Parish, McHale, Walton etc and win few NBA titles just because that would mean he wouldn't be able to play for Greek national team, due stupid Fiba rules. And that meant so much to him.
Something like this is unimaginable nowadays,i hope Giannis will follow his steps.


Looking forward to Serbia vs Greece match tonight. Cold mastixa is ready, just need some gyros Smiley
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
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DiggerMan
on 18/08/2019, 14:47:16 UTC
And the results are in:

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Stipe Miocic (c) def. Daniel Cormier via fourth-round TKO (punches)
Nate Diaz def. Anthony Pettis via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28)
Paulo Costa def. Yoel Romero via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Sodiq Yusuff def. Gabriel Benitez via first-round TKO (punches)
Derek Brunson def. Ian Heinisch via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Khama Worthy def. Devonte Smith via first-round TKO (punches)
Cory Sandhagen def. Raphael Assuncao via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28)
Drakkar Klose def. Christos Giagos via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Casey Kenney def. Manny Bermudez via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)

Source: https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/ufc-241-results-highlights-stipe-miocic-rallies-to-tko-daniel-cormier-regain-heavyweight-title/

@tokeweed - how much you won on Stipe?  Grin. From day one you have been talking about Stipe taking this one so I assume you made a significant bet. Good call!!

I think its more of DC getting tired and gassing out and Miocic taking advantage of it. The landscape has change again with this win and more story board (I'm sounding like @bbc.reporter here Cheesy) branching out.

Congrats to those who won in this event.

I dropped hints on Diaz too.  Lol.  Wink  I don't bet that huge, so nothing to brag.

And you have to give Miocic some credit...  He did start going for the body as an adjustment and it worked.

UFC 241:  Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV3v6H7-Ecs

Yep, those body punches made huge difference.

In the first 15 minutes Miocic made only 15 successful body punches, while in 4th round alone he managed to made 14 body punches, and we saw the result.

Based on the hits  received difference, this is 2nd best comeback. Out of 263 attempts, Cormier made
181 hit, while Miocic had 123 successful hits out of 229 attempts. So Miocic received 58 hits more and still managed to survive all that and even win.
Only bigger comeback was in UFC 117 when Anderson Silva beat Sonnen.

I think this might be end of Cormier career, maybe he should have step down as a champion, but then again, he obviously didn't want to calculate and kudos to that, he showed that he is(was) real champion and that's why he is considered as one of the greatest fighters in UFC history.
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Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019
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DiggerMan
on 18/08/2019, 09:16:56 UTC
The Greek team just won easily vs Italy and Turkey - especially Turkey being strong with many NBAers, it is really looking good for Greece so far - even though what counts in the end is the tournament and not those friendlies... Crash test today vs Serbia, I cant wait for the match!

This will be great test for Greek team, considering how strong Serbia is, i would even say they are favorites now to win world cup, with all those US cancellations.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
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DiggerMan
on 18/08/2019, 06:40:57 UTC
I am quite disappointed with the Diaz-Pettis fight. I was expecting some fireworks but it was not the case.
- Pettis looks out of shape and not as explosive
- Diaz fighting smart by clinching and limiting his opponents attacks. He's also thrown more kicks than he usually does.

I was surprised too, i thought that Diaz will be out of shape, outside of the ring he doesn't seems like the brightest bulb but he showed intelligence  while Pettis didn't show absolutely anything.
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Re: 2019 NBA Season
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DiggerMan
on 18/08/2019, 06:10:56 UTC
Draymond started to get a bit more like the day he started to argue with KD on that last possession day. Dude is not a clean player, he does a lot of bad things and we all remember his old "shooting motion" thing and what not which is why he was never really liked in the league, dude was just a dirty player simple as that. However he stopped doing all his other dirty stuff but kept his good defense and he has really shown leadership.
I agree that he is not a clean player but I tell you he is a player that aspire others to play basketball. He was a 2nd rounder stolen by the Golden State Warriors. It's like Isiah Thomas or Jordan Clarkson that came from the 2nd round but came out strong in the league. Let's not forget the troubles he went to before he is right now. Smiley. Thumbs up for the dude for that.



I don't agree that Draymond Green is not liked in the league, even if he is not the cleanest player.Many popular players in NBA were a bit dirty like Malone, Stockon, Rodman etc.

It is hard not to like  and respect players like Draymond Green. He was not the God given talent, but due incredible work rate  and BBIQ he managed to become what he is.Rare are players like him that can defend all 5 positions, and on top of that he is heart and soul of Warriors, incredibly competitive player that pushed others around him to perform better.