Don't go buy a lot of Gulden or Florin if you not a influener yourself or it will end badly for you.

Rijk thanks for talking about bitcointalk in lounge. I didn't want to express my opinion on slack because I will look dumb and this forum I feel I can be more open with my thoughts.

Tomu thoughts is the same impressions I had, as a crypto newbie I had no idea we had to help make Gulden work if we invest in Gulden. It's true I didn't understand the concept of decentralization and as a guy that has his own life, family and work I can't do much
besides promote to people in my circle. The problem I find is most of these people are in my shoes where they can't contribute to Gulden by creating development,most know less about crypto then I do and I don't know a lot.

Is it possible to add to Gulden.com before people buy that they must contribute if they make an investment, if this was communicated better you will have less problems but understand it will scare people away if they have to work on it when they don't understand it.
It's why it's easy to scam people in this industry.

For young people who have a lot of free time and can code, Gulden is the perfect coin because of it's low value and can help turn Gulden into a gem. This might be your target audience , developers without work and you can use the premine to pay them.

Speaking for myself I am useless as a investor to this coin because I don't add value besides my purchases on bitcoinmeester before Gulden was delisted.

I got advise from a younger work college to invest in Hex last year and that is a coin where you can invest and pray the people behind it are not scammers. With this coin the community is not asked to do work when they invest and my small investment is up over 1000%. For people in my shoes coins like this are more attractive because no work is required from us. Most people have their own lives to lead and don't have time to help out in a practical way.

A new coin with similar specifications to florin I can get behind. Any ideas for a new coin name?

Besides a new premine what do you think the future holds for Gulden? What will it take for Rijk Plaasman to reinvest in his own creation?

Gulden should have a dual setup.

A community leader that is knowledgeable and flamboyant and can get out their and promote Gulden as a leader. This leader gets paid a salary from the premine.
Rijk remains the leader of development and does not get involved with the community. Only manages development and development is paid monthly by the premine.
Premine in a multisig address between 3 people. Community Leader, Rijk and 1 other trusted person in the community.

The third person should have accounting skills and handle administration of all outgoing expenditure that can later be shown to the community.

This removes all the distrust of premine used for other nefarious reasons or Rijk using it for a family trust. 3 people keep a eye on each other.

How will Florin be different from the disaster that is Gulden? You have the same team that couldn't get exchange listings or proper marketing done in 8 years. Blockhut is a shit service that only offers the ability for Rijk to sell the Gulden dev reward. Please enlighten me, I am all ears.

They must be rich. €50 * 50000 XLF = €2 500 000. Rijk made a lot of money from the promised airdrop premine but I don't think people care because the price is high and only going higher. I would only be upset if I put all my coins in a holding account expecting the airdrop but investors and traders will be happy and you can't keep everyone happy.

Is it technically possible to divide all coins by 10? Max supply , current supply,  block rewards etc.

Eg if you own 100000 coins it will become 10000. It will require the price to go up 10 times but I don't think 200sat will be a problem.

This will help with the price if it's too low for exchanges to list Gulden?

Let me know your thoughts and if it possible?