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Re: 🔥🔥[ANN] Cointed ICO | 180 mio$ revenue | 100k GPUs | 100+ Bitcoin ATMs 🔥🔥
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ENS
on 04/11/2017, 16:13:13 UTC
what has he to do with cointed?
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Re: 🔥🔥[ANN] Cointed ICO | 180 mio$ revenue | 100k GPUs | 100+ Bitcoin ATMs 🔥🔥
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ENS
on 30/10/2017, 21:50:55 UTC
You have an interesting list of partners, mostly news sites that accepts paid promotion.
And how is NVIDIA your partner, using their GPU doesn't make anyone their partner.
Any resource to prove the stated partners?

Hi, thank you for the great question. Our hardware is to a large part from Nvidia and strongly customized. I will try to get you some kind of prove, but it might take a while

How is that proof search coming along??

Seems that "you trying to get some kind of proofe" did not work so well so far.. but hey, its just been two weeks Smiley))))))
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Re: 🔥🔥[ANN] Cointed ICO | 180 mio$ revenue | 100k GPUs | 100+ Bitcoin ATMs 🔥🔥
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ENS
on 27/10/2017, 14:44:34 UTC
Hi,
Whatsup with the new x12 coin in cointed?
I have looked for exchanges and there is no exchange that buys or sells x12 coins but cointed.
Yesterday cointed deactivated the purchase of the x12 coin (without any news update or anything to inform their members), but still you can sell the coin.
Would you care to give more information about this?
If no one can buy the coin, why is the value increasing?

Thanks



I think this guys have a shady sideeal with X12 guys to pretend this coin has a value. You can not purchase it nowhere but Cointed site is pretending that it has value Smiley And even the price is going up and down... really funny if you can not purchase it nowehre Smiley)))))

Thats just one more really funny detail about Cointed. The deeper you look into anyhting the more shady stuff you find.

Mining Farms which do not mine (but claiming to have 100.000 GPUs up and running)
Coins wich do not exist nowhere (X12)
Companys with no value/assets in it and zero on the balance sheet (but claiming 100m turnover)
Partners that official claim Cointed is Fraud (Genereal Bytes)
Partners that official dont know that they are Partners (Nvidia
Claiming to have an "Exchange" with 15.000 Member what is clearly just a kind or broker/coin/buy and sell webpage...

And the best thing: They are buying theire own ICO Smiley)))))))





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Re: 🔥🔥[ANN] Cointed ICO | 180 mio$ revenue | 100k GPUs | 100+ Bitcoin ATMs 🔥🔥
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ENS
on 22/10/2017, 09:10:42 UTC
Let me sum things up:

- Fraudwarning in newspaper
- Fraudwarning from experienced Forum Members with Herostatus
- 100% Fake followers on Facebook
- Censorship of Reviews
- Huge Fight with the only confirmed partner GB (witch is a credible palyer in the crtypto community with a very good reputation)
- No proof for any up and running mining farms (exept some pictures of rigs standing around in a warehouse)
- Fee Manipulation
- Lies about claiming the BT ATMs are Cointed ATMs
- Lies about Revenue/Turnover
- Lies about amount of ATM Locations (at least not willing to provide proof)
- Lies about having a developed Mining Hardware together with Nvidia. (And pretending to have a non disclouser Agreement after anouncing it themselves)
- Lies about Online Traffic on theire site.
- Lies about developing theire own software.
- Lies about developing theire own ATMs.
- Censoring all channels, deleting old profiles and creating new ones
..... that list could go on forever....

First let me say, that it is interesting to say the least, that we are providing answers to all your accusations. You however don‘t find it worthwhile to comment on them. Instead you only bring up new and wrong accusations without providing proof or simply repeat the same accusations again. The reader has to decide for themselves why you behave that way. It is clear that all your posts are not objective but clearly subjective and in a negative, destructive spirit.

Nevertheless, for the sake of transparency, we will continue addressing them:

- Fraudwarning in newspaper
In the article you mention, there is no warning of fraud at all. They only reported the accusations from our former business partner GB and the very comments you posted in this thread. The same newspaper posted an article from our point of view, which can be found here where we explicitly dispute all allegations: https://www.derbrutkasten.com/a/schmutzkuebelkampagne-cointed-wehrt-sich-gegen-vorwuerfe/
In addition, Cointed gave a live video-interview to this newspaper today for the sake of complete clarification, which can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/derBrutkasten/videos/1968866463337243/
So far, GB refused to react to any of our statements.

During this interview, we also invited the same newspaper - https://derbrutkasten.at - to come and visit our mining facilities in Sweden to give the community an unbiased view and to prove that we have nothing to hide. More information will be coming in the next 2 weeks!


- Fraudwarning from experienced Forum Members with Herostatus
We answered all concerns of the mentioned user and are patiently waiting for further comments.
But I am glad you mentioned the issue of warnings from users. We think it is important for the community to know who is actually behind those accounts.
When checking the trustworthiness of the user Zeroxal, one can find a review that leads to this interesting statement of the user himself  where he admits to tax fraud: https://archive.fo/Q916h
 

- 100% Fake followers on Facebook
Every company, has to deal with this problem. It is true that we advertised our facebook page in those countries, which is completely legitimate way to reach potential customers. A look at our whitepaper will reveal, that expanding to Africa is one of our core goals, since cryptocurrencies are ideal for markets where financial infrastructure is still underdeveloped.
The statement that 100% of our followers are fake is an exaggeration of incredible dimension.


- Censorship of Reviews
Already addressed, you refused to provide prove.


- Huge Fight with the only confirmed partner GB (witch is a credible palyer in the crtypto community with a very good reputation)
A statement regarding the GB situation can be found on the first page of this thread and in the article and video posted above. We will also invite GB to a roundtable discussion. The fight was never intended by us and we didn’t start it as mentioned time and time again already in this thread. Cointed is very disappointed in GB for taking these steps. This point has been addressed multiple times.


- No proof for any up and running mining farms (exept some pictures of rigs standing around in a warehouse)
As mentioned before, a camera team from https://derbrutkasten.at has been invited to visit our mining farm in Sweden. At this mining farm alone, Coitned operates 16,000 GPUs, which are up and running at this point. Stay tuned for the video! (and thank you for providing the publicity!)


- Fee Manipulation
Already addressed, you refused to provide prove.


- Lies about claiming the BT ATMs are Cointed ATMs
Which lies? We bought the ATMs and always paid our bills on time, even stated by GB in the private letter they decided to post on their site. They belong to us. We have already provided proof of our own new ATM prototypes which are not only owned, but also produced by us: https://imgur.com/a/COt41


- Lies about Revenue/Turnover
Again no lies. The 180$mio dollars are a low estimate for the end of this fiscal year.
We are willing to admit that these numbers were communicated poorly. We will be able to prove this with our balance sheet at the end of the year. Sceptical investors are invited to revisit this ICO at the beginning of the next year when this information will become publicly available.


- Lies about amount of ATM Locations (at least not willing to provide proof)
Please go to the website https://coinatmradar.com/operators/ where you can find 51 listed already. A look at our facebook page https://www.facebook.com/cointed/ will reveal that we installed !!18 ATMs!! in the last 10 days alone. GB also said themselves in the private email they decided to publish that we bought 73 ATMs from them alone. In addition, 5 BITXATMs, 5 GENESIS ATMs and 15 new Bitcoin ATM „X“ Machines are owned by Cointed, with more models ordered already.

Regarding the ATMs that have not been listed publicly they:
1. Are at private clubs, which can only be accessed by members of the club
2. Still need to be shipped out (I just received word that a new ATM has arrived in Mallorca/Spain!)
3. Are prototypes which have been developed and produced by Cointed and are now being tested


- Lies about having a developed Mining Hardware together with Nvidia. (And pretending to have a non disclouser Agreement after anouncing it themselves)
Already answered, you are repeating yourself to inflate the list of unbased accusations


- Lies about Online Traffic on theire site.
Already addressed, refused to provide prove.


- Lies about developing theire own software.
Already addressed, refused to provide prove.


- Lies about developing theire own ATMs.
Already addressed, pictures of our prototypes have been posted multiple times: https://imgur.com/a/COt41
The GeneralBytes drama you keep citing is entirely because we are producing our own ATMs, as GB says themselves in the private email they decided to pusblish. This makes your point not make a lot of sense I am afraid. It seems like you are running out of accusations you are able to make up.


- Censoring all channels, deleting old profiles and creating new ones
That is a new one which again, you refuse to provide any proof for.
If you mean the Cointed OG account, a short Google check will reveal that the Cointed OG has been closed over a year ago. I don't think that you mean this account though because it would not make sense to talk about the account of a company that no longer exists.


It is obvious that you are just flinging dirt and hope that something sticks. You don’t care that all these points have been thoroughly discussed and just keep repeating them without addressing our answers in any way, shape or form.

We are happy to engage in a healthy discussion. However, so far it seems like the only thing you are interested in is to inflict the biggest economical damage. I am sure it makes the community wonder what your motivation actually is...



Well if you would like me to comment each issue I will do so, although you have not been able to prove any singel argument. You are just claiming things without providing proofe. Anyway ,I will add a few lines to some of the (many) bullet point just to show you what I mean:


1.)
you say:
- 100% Fake followers on Facebook
Every company, has to deal with this problem. It is true that we advertised our facebook page in those countries, which is completely legitimate way to reach potential customers. A look at our whitepaper will reveal, that expanding to Africa is one of our core goals, since cryptocurrencies are ideal for markets where financial infrastructure is still underdeveloped.
The statement that 100% of our followers are fake is an exaggeration of incredible dimension.

comment:

It is not a "problem that every company has to deal with". Buying fake followers means that you engaged in a service to pay for a certain amount of followers. Thats a very shady thing to do because its only purpose is to look bigger/better as you are. It is easy to proofe by comparing the rate between amount of followers and amount of interactions. This ratio is not right on your site, thats a simple fact and your information does not provide any value to it.
Although you are right. 100% is a exaggeration, it is probably around 95-98% fake followers in reality.

2.) Lies about corporate structure turnover/revenue:

you claimed that as of 20.10.2017 your Cointed GmbH will be owned . 100% by your Hongkong limited. This simply false. The relevante documents have been posted already in this forum. As a consequence, your Tokenholders are holding tokens with no value. Thats a simple fact

Also turnover/revenue/profit is not existing until beginning of 2017. As stated in your public balance sheet. I posted this information erlaier. Your figuers ( 25m, 100m) are pure fantasy.

3.) Lies about mining capacity.
You are claiming that you have developed minining Graphigcards with Nvidia and that you have plus 100.000 GPUs up and running as of today.
Thats simple false. The only thing you have been willing to share sofar is pictures of a storage room with a few thousend GPUd standing around not making money. And your offer to invite journalists in a few weeks (when your ICO is over) is simply a joke. Why proofing anything after your ICO. If you are not willing to provide a simple screenshot of your miningpool with a simple picuter of your mining facilitys then the simply do not exist. (like hundreds of other scams in the cryptoworld)

4.) Lies about one of the biggest player in the crypto ATM Industry.
It is said how strong you try to blame GT for your own misbehaviour.

5.) Claiming to have "developed" your own ATM
It would be easy to prove that, just share your patents. The animation you shared can be made with a photoshop app on a simple mobile phone. Its no prove for nothing. (and for sure not for getting 120m USD!!!)

6.).... so many more things to say... but it makes no sense to continue as long as you are not willing to puplish the above mentioned documents. It would be simple and if you would have all they things you claim to have in place you could share it in a matter of minutes.

But I have the feeling that nobody will ever see any of these documents, company registers, mining farm pictures, patents, etc... because if you would have them you would have published it at the beginning of your ICO to ensure your investors that you are the real deal...

Please do not get back to me with empty words. They dont change nothing. Puplish the requested documents or save yourself the energy of posting a extensive reply with no content.

with love
ens
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Re: 🔥🔥[ANN] Cointed ICO | 180 mio$ revenue | 100k GPUs | 100+ Bitcoin ATMs 🔥🔥
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on 21/10/2017, 06:05:54 UTC
Let me sum things up:

- Fraudwarning in newspaper
- Fraudwarning from experienced Forum Members with Herostatus
- 100% Fake followers on Facebook
- Censorship of Reviews
- Huge Fight with the only confirmed partner GB (witch is a credible palyer in the crtypto community with a very good reputation)
- No proof for any up and running mining farms (exept some pictures of rigs standing around in a warehouse)
- Fee Manipulation
- Lies about claiming the BT ATMs are Cointed ATMs
- Lies about Revenue/Turnover
- Lies about amount of ATM Locations (at least not willing to provide proof)
- Lies about having a developed Mining Hardware together with Nvidia. (And pretending to have a non disclouser Agreement after anouncing it themselves)
- Lies about Online Traffic on theire site.
- Lies about developing theire own software.
- Lies about developing theire own ATMs.
- Censoring all channels, deleting old profiles and creating new ones
..... that list could go on forever....
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Re: 🔥🔥[ANN] Cointed ICO | 180 mio$ revenue | 100k GPUs | 100+ Bitcoin ATMs 🔥🔥
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ENS
on 20/10/2017, 14:24:15 UTC
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Re: 🔥🔥[ANN] Cointed ICO | 180 mio$ revenue | 100k GPUs | 100+ Bitcoin ATMs 🔥🔥
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ENS
on 19/10/2017, 17:33:42 UTC
Hey!

I am almost ready to invest my hard earned ETHs Smiley

But, it sounds to good to be true:

I assume your ICO is legit (like all ICOs of course), but just to be sure can you please share.

1.) Partnership agreement with Nvidia (you must be the only mining company that has one, very impressive)

2.) Please send proof/pictures of your two mining locations with +100.000 GPUs. (Picture of the location, pool performance, etc.. you know how to this works) And please explain your mining portfolio and in what kind of hardware (exept the 100.000 gpus) your 30 million (!) USD was invested in.

3.) Please puplish a lis of you +100 ATM locations. For some reason I did not found it online.  

4.) As your company is on its way to success, can you please puplish your companys balance sheet.

I would have lots of other points that I would be intereste in.. but lets wait if you can accomplish the first 4 bullet points.

Smiley

with crypto love
ens

1) sorry we are not allowed to talk about this, so we can neither deny nor confirm
2) We will upload some proof in the next hours that will satisfy you, we promise, just hold on a bit please Smiley
3) https://atm.cointed.com/atm-en/ Not all are listed yet, but we are adding the rest to the list as fast as we can.
4)  I am sorry, we can not do this at this point, we will think about how we can provide you further proof

please ask more questions in the mean time, I  will address as many as I can and forward the rest to the team, they are just very busy right now dealing with all kind of inquiries.



Some updates as promised:
2) Some images of the construction of our farm, https://imgur.com/a/wf85K
4) Let's tell you the whole story.
First we operated through an entity that doesn't require a balance (OG). Then we did a merger. The first balance of the new entity is only due at the end of the year. So we can not share that with you yet, you will have to wait until the end of the year. In any case the result of the Hong Kong based mother company is what really counts

Hey Thx a lot for your update!

Let me commet on your updates:

2.) your mining farms with 130.000 GPUs:
One pictures you uploaded we see a storage room with a few hundred mining rigs (multipled with 8 graphiccards). That means on the pictures we see around 3-5k graphicards, and none of them is running.

So you claimed to have 130.000 GPUs in multiple mining farms.
But you really have a storage room with 3000 to 5000 GPUs THAT ARE NOT MINING but just sitting there and losing value.
Well, congratulations to your "mining farms"

4.) That is not correct, the first balance was due on 31.12.2016 and you did puplish it. And it says exactly what i descriped.

You claim to have 100m turnover in 2017
But you really can prove 35.000k with a lose of Euro 55.- in 2016.

They claim that everything is owned by your Hongkong limited is worth nothing because it is a limited. As you know limited stands comes from "limited liability" That means it is worth nothing expept you can prove assets in this Ltd.

And your claim that your Austrian Cointed GmbH is been owned by your Hongkong limited is also false. The ownership is as following as of today:
Rieder Christopher(Anteil: 90 %)
Thaler Wolfgang (Anteil: 10 %)







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Re: 🔥🔥[ANN] Cointed ICO | 180 mio$ revenue | 100k GPUs | 100+ Bitcoin ATMs 🔥🔥
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on 19/10/2017, 15:34:21 UTC
Hey!

I am almost ready to invest my hard earned ETHs Smiley

But, it sounds to good to be true:

I assume your ICO is legit (like all ICOs of course), but just to be sure can you please share.

1.) Partnership agreement with Nvidia (you must be the only mining company that has one, very impressive)

2.) Please send proof/pictures of your two mining locations with +100.000 GPUs. (Picture of the location, pool performance, etc.. you know how to this works) And please explain your mining portfolio and in what kind of hardware (exept the 100.000 gpus) your 30 million (!) USD was invested in.

3.) Please puplish a lis of you +100 ATM locations. For some reason I did not found it online.  

4.) As your company is on its way to success, can you please puplish your companys balance sheet.

I would have lots of other points that I would be intereste in.. but lets wait if you can accomplish the first 4 bullet points.

Smiley

with crypto love
ens

1) sorry we are not allowed to talk about this, so we can neither deny nor confirm
2) We will upload some proof in the next hours that will satisfy you, we promise, just hold on a bit please Smiley
3) https://atm.cointed.com/atm-en/ Not all are listed yet, but we are adding the rest to the list as fast as we can.
4)  I am sorry, we can not do this at this point, we will think about how we can provide you further proof

please ask more questions in the mean time, I  will address as many as I can and forward the rest to the team, they are just very busy right now dealing with all kind of inquiries.




Okay, so you are saying that you would like to do an ICO and collect cash (120m) but you are not able/willing to prove any of your claims and share anything with anybody?

Lets just go through the bullet points:

1.) You claim that you have developed mining hardware with Nvidia. I ask for prove and your answer is that you are not allowed to talk about. Well, you did talk about it because you made the claim in the first place. So if you would have an confindentiality agreement you would already have broken it. The only thing you did not do is deliver proof for this unrealistic claim. (Everybody with basic knowledge about Nvidia/Mining/Graphic-card development understands that a claim like this is out of the air.

2.) So you have prepaird your ICO but no due dilligende files about yourself? Sounds strange, but I am waiting for your "uploads"

3.) The link you provided (https://atm.cointed.com/atm-en) shows 29 ATMs on 18 locations. You claim to have 100+ locations.
If you would have 100+ locations would be able to provide a simple excellist with all adresses in a hearthbeat.

4.) Why can you not do this? Company balance sheet are by law publicly accessable in austria. If you are not willing to share the most basic documents I can help you out. Your baance sheet of 2016 shows Euro 36.250.- as sum and your profit for 2016 was Euro -55,24.-
Now I understand why you are collecting money Smiley I can post a screenshot if needed, but I think you dont wana see that.

People in the crypto community can do basic research and are usually older than 3 years. You can not make up a small business with wild claims and big names such as Nvidia and Generalbytes (your partners)

Well it is interesting what your "partner" General Bytes is saying about you:

https://www.generalbytes.com/cointed/

I dont think that your Partner "Nvidia" will comment on that matter at all.

Looking forward to see more of your exiting ICO Information.

br
ens

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Re: 🔥🔥[ANN] Cointed ICO | 180 mio$ revenue | 100k GPUs | 100+ Bitcoin ATMs 🔥🔥
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on 19/10/2017, 07:18:30 UTC
sorry, first of all i have to admit that I made a mistake, it is not 100.00 gpus it is of course 130.000 gpus. sorry for that, I did not want to make you smaller than you are Smiley

One more thing that is really great, you wrote:

 "We developed our mining hardware together with Nvidia. I will try to get you some kind of prove, but it might take a while"

 Grin Grin Grin Grin

This is really amazing!!!!! Smiley

But at least you try to get "some kind of prove" Smiley)))))))))

great guys!!!!!
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Re: 🔥🔥[ANN] Cointed ICO | 180 mio$ revenue | 100k GPUs | 100+ Bitcoin ATMs 🔥🔥
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on 19/10/2017, 06:57:06 UTC
Hey!

I am almost ready to invest my hard earned ETHs Smiley

But, it sounds to good to be true:

I assume your ICO is legit (like all ICOs of course), but just to be sure can you please share.

1.) Partnership agreement with Nvidia (you must be the only mining company that has one, very impressive)

2.) Please send proof/pictures of your two mining locations with +100.000 GPUs. (Picture of the location, pool performance, etc.. you know how to this works) And please explain your mining portfolio and in what kind of hardware (exept the 100.000 gpus) your 30 million (!) USD was invested in.

3.) Please puplish a lis of you +100 ATM locations. For some reason I did not found it online. 

4.) As your company is on its way to success, can you please puplish your companys balance sheet.

I would have lots of other points that I would be intereste in.. but lets wait if you can accomplish the first 4 bullet points.

Smiley

with crypto love
ens