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Re: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔DigiByte Gaming - CS:GO, LoL, #DigiByteTip, DigiSpeed
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EPLDCC
on 04/04/2016, 02:31:44 UTC
The gaming advantage dgb had is gone. It's good Jared has switched to digusign with that company who could store documents on the digibyte blockchain. I think this is where Jared will make his money. Not on the currency itself which is why he only has 5 million coins.

Will be cool to hear Jared himself about why he has not so much coins in the project he is leading so hardly. Comments from others are suppositions.
(even if 5M is a decent amount)

I don't know for sure but one reason could be is because he did not take any coins when the DGB was launched. He has had to mine or buy his coins just like anyone else.

He wears expensive clothing. I don't think money is a issue.




Non-sense. Eth's dev appeared on interviews and presentations wearing t-shirt.

From what I understand Jared is only a marketing guy and decides what needs to be done but the devs are Asians from Hong Kong. ETH devs are the actual devs they never dress in name brand clothing.

Just watch all the Digireports and you know what kind of person Jared is. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Digibyte+Digireport
Also look @ http://www.dgbholdings.com/pages/team

Jared is always very presentable . Looks like a wall Street guy. Who are the devs of digibyte ? I was told in pm Terry is the main developer ?

Totally understand where you're coming from.  I always make investment decisions and value digital currency based on wardrobe.
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Re: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔$250k Investment, DigiByte Gaming, #DigiByteTip, DigiSpeed
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EPLDCC
on 05/03/2016, 00:21:14 UTC
I wasn't at the conference.  But, from what I've heard, Jared gave a great presentation on the role of public and private blockchains, and how DigiByte works to provide solutions and services.  Those are the facts.  And the facts don't have anything to do with hype or marketing.

Congratulations Jared.  It's great to have an active developer who contributes to the larger perspectives and approaches that shape how consumers and companies adopt digital currencies. 

I think it's a testament to Jared's professional management and development that he is not trying to hype up his contribution for personal gain.  It would be tacky and unprofessional if he were at the conference trying to pump up the exchange value of DGB.

The conference was March 3 and 4.  I just got home from work on Friday, but as I write it is 2:00 a.m. in Johannesburg.  So, the meetings wrapped up the the second and final day.  People went to dinner, then they went out to have a few drinks to celebrate.  I hope Jared went out on the town and had a great night to celebrate a great conference.  If I were going to the conference I would have extended the trip through the weekend to have some time to see the sights for a couple of days.

It's amazing that people are upset that he didn't run back to the hotel room to get onto to babysitTalk to help you clear your open orders on poloniex.  It's not his job to help you profit from trading.  He's doing a great job contributing, building services, developing, and defining a professional standard for digital currency applications.  It should make us all proud to have him as a developer of DGB.

Congratulations to you again Jared.  Hope you have a great trip.
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Re: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔$250k Investment, DigiByte Gaming, #DigiByteTip, DigiSpeed
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EPLDCC
on 02/03/2016, 00:41:11 UTC
I am fairly confident DIgiByte will have a double digits market cap this year  Smiley Cool This is like buying bitcoins when it was still 20 cents.

do you think that the Friday conference will affect the price of digibyte?

(Public vs Private Blockchains: A DigiByte perspective)

It might have something to do with it, personally I am more excited about the fact that I now know the face behind Digibyte (the team) and considering who is involved, I think it's only a matter of time before DigiByte will be listed on Chinese exchanges, the gaming thing will also become huge, micro consumer transactions should be implemented etc. I am all in this for the long term, like Hannibal who used to make plans in the A team, and eventually he said, laughing with a cigar, "i love it when a plan comes together". For me DGB is like that, so I don't care so much about the price fluctuations in the short term, maybe I'll consider selling when DGB hit the 10 cents 1 dollar range Smiley  Wink

Looking at other scamcoins lately. It's completly doable for a serious one like DGB Smiley

The one dollar range would mean surpassing the current bitcoin market cap. Not impossible, but I'm looking forward to the $0.01 first Smiley I think that a market cap of 60 million and passing DOGE is not unlikely.

Agree.  I think it would be great and not totally unreasonable for a target price of between $0.005 and $0.01 sometime in the coming year or so ... but, honestly, it's nothing more than a semi-educated guess.  We do have some great outreach events over the next few months - like the impending conference.
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Re: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔$250k Investment, DigiByte Gaming, #DigiByteTip, DigiSpeed
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on 29/02/2016, 16:26:39 UTC
Hi Everyone,

Remember that today is the last day to enter the February DigiByte Knights Challenge Contest.

https://digibytegroup.com/project/challenge-contest-february-2016/

Happy Leap Year.

Eric
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Re: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔$250k Investment, DigiByte Gaming, #DigiByteTip, DigiSpeed
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EPLDCC
on 26/02/2016, 02:16:44 UTC
DigiByte 'community' group has been planing something but  we may have been a little distracted lately so we will keep you updated when we are ready.

I'd just like to point out, I particularly like page 34 of Tyke's book!  Grin

Hehe not even I know about this, exciting Jumbley Cheesy

Jumbley deserves all the credit ... a couple weeks back he caught me off guard with it; I think it's going to be great and I'm really excited.  We're playing it a bit close to the vest at the moment.  And, we'll be releasing news to the whole community as soon as we figure out the details.
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Re: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔$250k Investment, DigiByte Gaming, #DigiByteTip, DigiSpeed
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on 25/02/2016, 00:56:57 UTC

I think that we don't have a problem with the current reward schedule.  So I suppose I think we shouldn't rush to change it.  But, here are just a few comments about the block reward discussion.  I could write long posts for each of the points below.  But, instead, I just put these here as 5 related comments.

1. I understand the logic when people suggest that reducing the block rewards would increase value for existing coins.  It's a supply and demand thing.  If you reduce supply, there will be greater pressure on the demand curve, which will move the exchange equilibrium up (at least theoretically).  But, I believe that would be a short term increase and would eventually decrease the total value of DGB.

2. I know for sure that not all mining rewards are ending up on the open market.  Mine don't.  I'm equally sure that a good amount of them do end up on the open market.  Just for the sake of argument, let's assume all the mining rewards ended up on Poloniex every day (which they don't), it would still be less than 15% of our average daily volume just on that exchange.  So, any increase in exchange price probably wouldn't be too dramatic.  I personally wouldn't be worried about the mining rewards until that percentage gets much higher (something like sustained averages above 35% of the sum daily volume from all exchanges).

3. DGB is not an inflationary coin.  Technically, like BTC and other POW coins, it's deflationary.  There is a 1% decrease in mining rewards each month.  When people write that it's inflationary, what they seem to mean is that we have more new coins produced from mining than other digital currencies that they are exchanging, and they want to leverage the existing DGB they have saved for a greater short-term exchange value.  To me that seems self-serving and short-sighted.  Instead of working to leverage the short term value of our existing positions, I would suggest that we encourage new markets to increase consumption and liquidity.  Go back to number 1.  Basically, I think instead of trying to reduce supply, we should all be working to increase demand and use value.  Increasing demand would have a sustained impact on the exchange value.

4. If we want to see the exchange value increase year-over-year, we want to encourage exchange and liquidity in the markets.  The current markets (with exchanges) are largely closed loop systems.  But, I believe that will begin to change in the coming 24 months.

5. There is an advantage to continuing our current level of mining rewards because it creates continued upward pressure on total-exchange-value (what most people call market cap) for DGB.  As we approach investors and companies for partnerships, sponsorship for gaming, etc., it looks good that we have demonstrable yearly growth in total exchange value and total exchange volume.

I'm sure there are some possible avenues and vehicles that we could use to address the concerns about supply that have been posted recently (and in the past).  

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Re: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔$250k Investment, DigiByte Gaming, #DigiByteTip, DigiSpeed
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on 17/02/2016, 00:27:35 UTC
Hello, I inform you that DigiByte will soon be accepted in our store located in France Wink
This will facilitate overseas payments

This is a shop that sells decorative mirrors. with new concept soon

Prices will be displayed soon DigiByte / Euro

Thank you for your support (like this page please).
https://www.facebook.com/Lart-du-verre-et-du-miroir-lAtelier-de-Marina-1169470346399129/?fref=ts

Thanks; I think it's great to see this kind of support.  Welcome to the DigiByte community.
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Re: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔$250k Investment, DigiByte Gaming, #DigiByteTip, DigiSpeed
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on 15/02/2016, 09:16:58 UTC
this is a lot to handle at once. I'll start reading before doing anything. for now I'm going to test every single possibility, then chose the best way. I have a vps to test on and I may try with ASIC, and I'm right now going to test my cpu mining and gpu mining.
I've crunched the numbers, partly because I was curious, and partly because I'm a nice guy who wants to lend a hand. Wink

At current rewards, in order to mine 5000 DGB with modern SHA-256 ASIC equipment, you'll need ~2.4 kWh. With modern Scrypt ASIC equipment you'll use ~7.5 kWh. And with the GPU algos (all very similar) you'll consume ~9.9 kWh.

As you can see, there is quite a bit of difference between SHA-256 and GPU, but whether that difference is enough to cover your fixed hardware investment or not, that is if you buy an Antminer or not and can reach ROI, for example, is up to you to figure out. Wink
The difference between scrypt ASIC and GPU is much less pronounced, but if you've already got a gaming rig set up, it probably won't take too much convincing to just use what you've got and get with installing and configuring your miner since we're only talking about 30-40 cents a day of difference.  Grin

Edit: I've always been in favor of rotating out SHA-256 and substituting it with a more widely distributed friendly algo BTW.

5000 is that the block reward? and the time frame? per day( 24h) or what ? and these calculation are bit too high don't you think ? I do nor have a perfect gaming rig, I do not consider it a gaming rig at all.
I have some old laptops that are no use to me but they still work, I may try to eliminate the display and why not the hard disk too, to minimize the electricity consume, I have like 4 2 (Pentium 4) and 2 (core 2 duo) I may use there cpu.( I have a electronic degree, that won't be a big of a deal)
without forgetting my nvidia.
I tried to do some calculation but, I had really big struggle with mining !! I downloaded the soft and followed the instruction, but my ind kept telling me that I'm not mining, so I changed to the websites that had worker thins so I started mining with there url etc.. and my worker status kept being inactive.
so I had no luck testing my stats.

Hi Crazy.

The current block reward is about 1054 (it is reduced every month).  A block is discovered on the network every 15 seconds.  We have 5 mining algorithms (SHA, Scrypt, Groestl, Skein, and Qubit).  As a result, you could figure that a block is discovered per algorithm about every minute 15 seconds.  Total daily mining rewards are just over 6,000,000 DGB per day.  Each mining algorithm has a different difficulty level that is adjusted asymmetrically between blocks (to reduce mining pool attacks).  We call the difficulty adjustment "MultiShield," which is the newer version of DigiShield.

There are 2 ways to mine: (1) you could solo mine; or (2) you could mine in a mining pool.  When you solo mine - if you find a block - you receive the whole block reward.  When you mine in a pool - if you find a block - the block reward is shared by all the people in the pool who contributed hash rate during the period that the block was found.  Most people mine in pools.  It's easier to set up and it creates less variance in rewards over time.  For instance, if I were mining solo I might find a 5 blocks a day.  I would get all the rewards - so I would get 5270 DGB if I found 5 blocks.  But, some days I would find no blocks.  Other days I might find more than 5 blocks.  So my rewards would be highly variable on any given day.

When I mine in a pool, I combine my hash rate with everyone else mining in that pool.  For the Official DigiHash Pool, the hashrates (and thus rewards) are divided into different algorithms.  The combined hashing power allows the group to find blocks more frequently than people who are solo mining.  The pool might find approximately 100 blocks per day.  The reward per block is less per block, but the variance of reward payout is smaller.  In the long run (i.e. over indefinite amount of time) you would theoretically get the same rewards mining in a pool or mining solo.  However, in practice, mining pools allow miners with lower hashrates to earn regular rewards more quickly (a fact that is especially true with coins that have a high difficulty - such as BTC).

I would recommend that anyone new to mining DGB start mining in a pool.  I would recommend using the official Developer DigiHash Pool because it helps support DGB.

If you intend to mine with a GPU, you will want to use any of the algorithms EXCEPT SHA-256.  SHA is pretty much all ASIC at this point.  Scrypt is both ASIC and GPU, but the GPU hash rate is going to be tiny compared to the ASIC.  I'm not an expert at GPU mining (I haven't done it for about 3 years, and I've forgotten pretty much everything).  If you do not want to use the DigiHash Easy Miner software, you will need to set up some mining software on your computer.  You might try something like multiminer (which is a GUI running on top of BFG miner).  I've never tried it for DGB and I'd be interested to hear if anyone has?

The truth is that nobody can tell you exactly what your mining rewards or costs will be ... it doesn't matter what anyone posts here or anywhere else.  People can give you rough estimates.  You can attempt to use mining calculators to get rough estimates.  But, the final result depends on many different variables (difficulty at any given moment for the algorithm you are mining, settings for the GPU, cost you pay for electricity, hashrate of the GPU, mining pool, exchange rate, need to sell to cover costs or ability to hold and trade at moments of opportunity, etc.).  I do remember when I was GPU mining.  It involved lots of little tweaks to get the most efficient settings and highest rewards.

I've been mining DGB for about 1.5 years (I don't mine any other coins).  I mine with a scrypt ASIC, and I don't mine in the summer because it's too hot.  I actually have a couple of different ASIC rigs that I use (and have used) throughout the year (and years).  I stated mining about 3.5 years ago with GPUs for LTC and small ASICs for BTC.  

Here is my best advice based on my years of experience mining:

I think you should try it.  It's fun, it's addictive, and it's a valuable way to understand digital currencies at a more fundamental level.  You're not going to get rich doing it.  I think people should start mining for a couple of reasons.  First, it is a good way to begin to understand and experience digital currencies at a deeper level.  It's not just trading; it's participating and supporting.  Don't invest tons of money into mining at the beginning.  Learn about how DGB works and start slow.  The second reason people should mine is because they believe in DGB and want to help support the network.  

    

thanks you that's a clear explanation.
I prefer taking a chance and having the block reward to my self.
and I'm drooping the idea of mining with a CPU.
btw the Scrypt ASIC is a CPU, why does it mine better than normal CPU, is it customized for that use only, and why not customized the laptop CPU to do the same . I'm going to give it a look.
I concluded from all this that mining is dying. and can be used as a tool to learn. and to knowledge more about the crypt-world

By the way ... if you're going to solo mine ... you'll need to do some modification to the DGB Core Wallet to turn on the server functionality of the wallet.  It's pretty simple command line stuff but I've never done it so I'm not qualified to give you instructions.  But, I'm sure someone here will be able to help.

I'd seriously advise against solo mining. Pooled mining means lower but guaranteed payouts. Solo mining means you'll get the entire block reward but you may never (and I do mean never) find a block.

That being said if you do want to solo mine you need to add a few options to your digibyte.conf

Code:
rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=password
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
listen=1
daemon=1
server=1

you would then run the digibyte wallet and point your mining software at http://127.0.0.1 with the username "user" and password "password".

Having a crappy internet connection will also hurt you when solo mining as any block you do find will need to be populated with transactions and broadcast over the network before any of the competing pools/miners and with 15 second block times its made even harder to do that.

Think of an ASIC like a specialized CPU. It's been programmed to do only one thing but it does it far better than a general CPU could.

There's a detailed solo mine HOWTO on the OP and on my forum that have already been graciously provided to this user before he came back with smart assed remarks questioning the validity of around 3 hours of numbers crunching on my part. Then when he starts being a cry baby, you all start groveling. What are people to think when you're groveling in front of someone who demonstratably despises hard work and then starts whinning when you make things very clear? At very least, people will say you have problems discerning between people who yank your chain and people who contribute value. You've got a HOWTO on the OP! He's been pointed to a wealth of information, and you still grovel? BTW, How are things going with the DiguSign search of signed embedded documents? I suppose that's been fixed since you find the time to engage in activities that are a waste of time and self humiliating.

Come to think about it, what's the old saying? Birds of a feather fly together? Maybe you're all just alike? Have you ever seen anywhere, not just here with DGB, but anywhere crypto, an analysis as comprehensive as the one I did the other day about mining returns on electricity used? You make than kind of effort and it's followed by babbling gibberish? Frankly it's mind blowing, especially when it answers the all too frequently asked question as to why price is being kept down! The question that immediately comes to mind is if I am surrounded by ingrates, idiots, or losers. And that analysis also clearly shows that mining IS PROFITABLE, for SHA-256, and would be for GPU, if SHA-256 weren't present. What everone's problem? Too tough? Too advanced to deal with? Is it easier to act like a baffoon?



Hey HR.  For what it's worth ... if I have to choose between ingrate, idiot, and loser ... I'll choose for you to put me in the idiot group.
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Re: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔$250k Investment, DigiByte Gaming, #DigiByteTip, DigiSpeed
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on 15/02/2016, 08:51:39 UTC
There is not a set formula for mining profitability.  I thought your analysis was interesting HR.  However, it didn't match my real world data using scrypt ASIC.  Mining can't be analyzed as an independent activity from trading or from a larger systemic approach to investing, supporting, and engaging with DGB.  I spent a significant amount of money on my current ASIC rig.  Around the time it was delivered, the support forums for the company were filled with people saying that it could never be profitable.  Here I am, 2 calendar years later, and I'm still theoretically in profits mining DGB.  I say theoretically because I don't sell to pay for operating costs.

Your work with support and analysis is fantastic.  It is a huge benefit to have you working on behalf of DGB.

To directly address the points in your previous post ... GPU (and CPU) can be profitable.  Clearly it's not the best choice if you try to compete directly with ASIC.  But, it can squeak out a a profit with the non-ASIC algorithms when it is done with care and thought in the process of mining DGB.  ASIC mining is not necessarily bad.  Neither is GPU or CPU necessarily good.  ASICs are a part of our world.

At DGB we have a great diversity of mining and support within our community.  The diversity adds value to DGB.

We all get frustrated sometimes.  It happened to me from December through January.  I just felt like no matter what I wrote here or tried I was pissing into the wind.  I was disheartened, but it wasn't about DGB.

We are here as a DigiByte community to support and encourage and grow.  Everyone here contributes and adds value to our community.  We disagree.  We agree.  We argue.  We build.  We develop.  We support.  We are all committed to the success of DGB.  I think it's great that we have seen some new members of the community expressing interest in mining and supporting DGB.  To all the new members of our community ... we are here to help you.  DigiByte has a bright future.  I believe we will have plenty of challenges on the way, but we'll get there.
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Re: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔$250k Investment, DigiByte Gaming, #DigiByteTip, DigiSpeed
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on 15/02/2016, 01:32:27 UTC
this is a lot to handle at once. I'll start reading before doing anything. for now I'm going to test every single possibility, then chose the best way. I have a vps to test on and I may try with ASIC, and I'm right now going to test my cpu mining and gpu mining.
I've crunched the numbers, partly because I was curious, and partly because I'm a nice guy who wants to lend a hand. Wink

At current rewards, in order to mine 5000 DGB with modern SHA-256 ASIC equipment, you'll need ~2.4 kWh. With modern Scrypt ASIC equipment you'll use ~7.5 kWh. And with the GPU algos (all very similar) you'll consume ~9.9 kWh.

As you can see, there is quite a bit of difference between SHA-256 and GPU, but whether that difference is enough to cover your fixed hardware investment or not, that is if you buy an Antminer or not and can reach ROI, for example, is up to you to figure out. Wink
The difference between scrypt ASIC and GPU is much less pronounced, but if you've already got a gaming rig set up, it probably won't take too much convincing to just use what you've got and get with installing and configuring your miner since we're only talking about 30-40 cents a day of difference.  Grin

Edit: I've always been in favor of rotating out SHA-256 and substituting it with a more widely distributed friendly algo BTW.

5000 is that the block reward? and the time frame? per day( 24h) or what ? and these calculation are bit too high don't you think ? I do nor have a perfect gaming rig, I do not consider it a gaming rig at all.
I have some old laptops that are no use to me but they still work, I may try to eliminate the display and why not the hard disk too, to minimize the electricity consume, I have like 4 2 (Pentium 4) and 2 (core 2 duo) I may use there cpu.( I have a electronic degree, that won't be a big of a deal)
without forgetting my nvidia.
I tried to do some calculation but, I had really big struggle with mining !! I downloaded the soft and followed the instruction, but my ind kept telling me that I'm not mining, so I changed to the websites that had worker thins so I started mining with there url etc.. and my worker status kept being inactive.
so I had no luck testing my stats.

Hi Crazy.

The current block reward is about 1054 (it is reduced every month).  A block is discovered on the network every 15 seconds.  We have 5 mining algorithms (SHA, Scrypt, Groestl, Skein, and Qubit).  As a result, you could figure that a block is discovered per algorithm about every minute 15 seconds.  Total daily mining rewards are just over 6,000,000 DGB per day.  Each mining algorithm has a different difficulty level that is adjusted asymmetrically between blocks (to reduce mining pool attacks).  We call the difficulty adjustment "MultiShield," which is the newer version of DigiShield.

There are 2 ways to mine: (1) you could solo mine; or (2) you could mine in a mining pool.  When you solo mine - if you find a block - you receive the whole block reward.  When you mine in a pool - if you find a block - the block reward is shared by all the people in the pool who contributed hash rate during the period that the block was found.  Most people mine in pools.  It's easier to set up and it creates less variance in rewards over time.  For instance, if I were mining solo I might find a 5 blocks a day.  I would get all the rewards - so I would get 5270 DGB if I found 5 blocks.  But, some days I would find no blocks.  Other days I might find more than 5 blocks.  So my rewards would be highly variable on any given day.

When I mine in a pool, I combine my hash rate with everyone else mining in that pool.  For the Official DigiHash Pool, the hashrates (and thus rewards) are divided into different algorithms.  The combined hashing power allows the group to find blocks more frequently than people who are solo mining.  The pool might find approximately 100 blocks per day.  The reward per block is less per block, but the variance of reward payout is smaller.  In the long run (i.e. over indefinite amount of time) you would theoretically get the same rewards mining in a pool or mining solo.  However, in practice, mining pools allow miners with lower hashrates to earn regular rewards more quickly (a fact that is especially true with coins that have a high difficulty - such as BTC).

I would recommend that anyone new to mining DGB start mining in a pool.  I would recommend using the official Developer DigiHash Pool because it helps support DGB.

If you intend to mine with a GPU, you will want to use any of the algorithms EXCEPT SHA-256.  SHA is pretty much all ASIC at this point.  Scrypt is both ASIC and GPU, but the GPU hash rate is going to be tiny compared to the ASIC.  I'm not an expert at GPU mining (I haven't done it for about 3 years, and I've forgotten pretty much everything).  If you do not want to use the DigiHash Easy Miner software, you will need to set up some mining software on your computer.  You might try something like multiminer (which is a GUI running on top of BFG miner).  I've never tried it for DGB and I'd be interested to hear if anyone has?

The truth is that nobody can tell you exactly what your mining rewards or costs will be ... it doesn't matter what anyone posts here or anywhere else.  People can give you rough estimates.  You can attempt to use mining calculators to get rough estimates.  But, the final result depends on many different variables (difficulty at any given moment for the algorithm you are mining, settings for the GPU, cost you pay for electricity, hashrate of the GPU, mining pool, exchange rate, need to sell to cover costs or ability to hold and trade at moments of opportunity, etc.).  I do remember when I was GPU mining.  It involved lots of little tweaks to get the most efficient settings and highest rewards.

I've been mining DGB for about 1.5 years (I don't mine any other coins).  I mine with a scrypt ASIC, and I don't mine in the summer because it's too hot.  I actually have a couple of different ASIC rigs that I use (and have used) throughout the year (and years).  I stated mining about 3.5 years ago with GPUs for LTC and small ASICs for BTC. 

Here is my best advice based on my years of experience mining:

I think you should try it.  It's fun, it's addictive, and it's a valuable way to understand digital currencies at a more fundamental level.  You're not going to get rich doing it.  I think people should start mining for a couple of reasons.  First, it is a good way to begin to understand and experience digital currencies at a deeper level.  It's not just trading; it's participating and supporting.  Don't invest tons of money into mining at the beginning.  Learn about how DGB works and start slow.  The second reason people should mine is because they believe in DGB and want to help support the network. 

   

thanks you that's a clear explanation.
I prefer taking a chance and having the block reward to my self.
and I'm drooping the idea of mining with a CPU.
btw the Scrypt ASIC is a CPU, why does it mine better than normal CPU, is it customized for that use only, and why not customized the laptop CPU to do the same . I'm going to give it a look.
I concluded from all this that mining is dying. and can be used as a tool to learn. and to knowledge more about the crypt-world

I don't think mining is dying.  Not at all.  It is just different today than a few years ago.  The BTC company with the most venture capital investment is 21 Inc, which is a company devoted to developing mining equipment.

There was a time - especially for BTC, LTC, and DOGE - when people were mining with anything they could get their hands on because it was super profitable.  It was a mining "bubble" in every economic sense.  The bubble burst toward the end of 2013 and into 2014.  There were a series of scandals (bufferfly labs, Mt. Gox, Black Arrow, HashFast, etc.).  Then, several of the big legitimate mining manufacturers shifted their focus from consumer products to centralized commercial business (BitFury and KNC).  In the past 12 months there have been several scandals with the cloud-mining companies such as GAW and ZenMiner.  If we just consider BTC - during the same time huge portions of the BTC mining business were developing in China, which further increased difficulty and centralization - both of which work against the home-based consumer.  Bitmain has remained a true champion for the home-based miner. 

At the same time that the mining bubble burst (end of 2013 through mid-2014) we saw the introduction of proof-of-stake.  POS was a novel concept that appears to present a possible technological solution to the problems with centralized mining and rising difficulty that were pricing individual consumers out of the market.  Many people who argue strongly in favor of POS today are the same people who were priced out of mining.  The problems I have with proof-of-stake are motivated by economics.  It is interest and creates the same problems as high interest rates.

Instead of adopting POS, some coins remained as proof-of-work coins (like DGB).  Many of these coins decided to look for alternative algorithms that would allow home-based, distributed mining.  Quark, Skein, Groestl, etc., etc.. 

One of the best aspects of DGB is that it is open to miners who use ASIC as well as GPU and CPU mining.  DigiByte has a tremendous diversity in mining.  And that fact is a great advantage for the long-term value of DGB.

As I said at the start - mining is changing not dying.  At the height of the bubble, a kid in his parents' basement could make a couple thousand dollars a month with a host of GPUs and first generation ASICs.  Today, there are a couple of different approaches.  The corporate approach uses huge capital outlays and looks to make small percentage returns on big amounts.  The approach that is being developed by 21 Inc. is to create small integrated mining within lots of devices (currently something like the raspberry pi but the ambition is more comprehensive).  Imagine every cash register at every store quietly mining a little bit here and there ... digital picture frames, light bulbs, televisions, really any electronic device ... in this instance, the mining rewards are super small.  Instead of the device being used specifically for mining, it is just doing a small amount of mining in the background.  I really like the approach that 21 Inc. is taking with building integrated mining into other devices.  However, They are exclusive to BTC at the moment.  It would be great if they opened up to other digital currencies.

For the rest of us, mining has become not an end ... but a means.  In other words, in the past people mined exclusively to get the mining rewards and make a profit.  Today, I could still profit from mining DGB.  But, instead of thinking about mining as an independent activity, I think about mining as a small part of my comprehensive approach to investing and supporting DGB.  Mining allows the other stuff to happen and creates revenue, drives value, and secures the network.  A secure network, intrinsic value, and streams of revenue and consumption are the foundation of the economics at the heart of digital currency.  If a coin doesn't have all of those things, it's just a ponzi scheme for traders.  DGB has all of them.  And compared to most other alt-coins, is exceptionally good at all of them.  That's one of the main reasons I mine and support DGB instead of any other coin.

By the way ... if you're going to solo mine ... you'll need to do some modification to the DGB Core Wallet to turn on the server functionality of the wallet.  It's pretty simple command line stuff but I've never done it so I'm not qualified to give you instructions.  But, I'm sure someone here will be able to help.
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on 14/02/2016, 04:28:47 UTC
this is a lot to handle at once. I'll start reading before doing anything. for now I'm going to test every single possibility, then chose the best way. I have a vps to test on and I may try with ASIC, and I'm right now going to test my cpu mining and gpu mining.
I've crunched the numbers, partly because I was curious, and partly because I'm a nice guy who wants to lend a hand. Wink

At current rewards, in order to mine 5000 DGB with modern SHA-256 ASIC equipment, you'll need ~2.4 kWh. With modern Scrypt ASIC equipment you'll use ~7.5 kWh. And with the GPU algos (all very similar) you'll consume ~9.9 kWh.

As you can see, there is quite a bit of difference between SHA-256 and GPU, but whether that difference is enough to cover your fixed hardware investment or not, that is if you buy an Antminer or not and can reach ROI, for example, is up to you to figure out. Wink
The difference between scrypt ASIC and GPU is much less pronounced, but if you've already got a gaming rig set up, it probably won't take too much convincing to just use what you've got and get with installing and configuring your miner since we're only talking about 30-40 cents a day of difference.  Grin

Edit: I've always been in favor of rotating out SHA-256 and substituting it with a more widely distributed friendly algo BTW.

5000 is that the block reward? and the time frame? per day( 24h) or what ? and these calculation are bit too high don't you think ? I do nor have a perfect gaming rig, I do not consider it a gaming rig at all.
I have some old laptops that are no use to me but they still work, I may try to eliminate the display and why not the hard disk too, to minimize the electricity consume, I have like 4 2 (Pentium 4) and 2 (core 2 duo) I may use there cpu.( I have a electronic degree, that won't be a big of a deal)
without forgetting my nvidia.
I tried to do some calculation but, I had really big struggle with mining !! I downloaded the soft and followed the instruction, but my ind kept telling me that I'm not mining, so I changed to the websites that had worker thins so I started mining with there url etc.. and my worker status kept being inactive.
so I had no luck testing my stats.

Hi Crazy.

The current block reward is about 1054 (it is reduced every month).  A block is discovered on the network every 15 seconds.  We have 5 mining algorithms (SHA, Scrypt, Groestl, Skein, and Qubit).  As a result, you could figure that a block is discovered per algorithm about every minute 15 seconds.  Total daily mining rewards are just over 6,000,000 DGB per day.  Each mining algorithm has a different difficulty level that is adjusted asymmetrically between blocks (to reduce mining pool attacks).  We call the difficulty adjustment "MultiShield," which is the newer version of DigiShield.

There are 2 ways to mine: (1) you could solo mine; or (2) you could mine in a mining pool.  When you solo mine - if you find a block - you receive the whole block reward.  When you mine in a pool - if you find a block - the block reward is shared by all the people in the pool who contributed hash rate during the period that the block was found.  Most people mine in pools.  It's easier to set up and it creates less variance in rewards over time.  For instance, if I were mining solo I might find a 5 blocks a day.  I would get all the rewards - so I would get 5270 DGB if I found 5 blocks.  But, some days I would find no blocks.  Other days I might find more than 5 blocks.  So my rewards would be highly variable on any given day.

When I mine in a pool, I combine my hash rate with everyone else mining in that pool.  For the Official DigiHash Pool, the hashrates (and thus rewards) are divided into different algorithms.  The combined hashing power allows the group to find blocks more frequently than people who are solo mining.  The pool might find approximately 100 blocks per day.  The reward per block is less per block, but the variance of reward payout is smaller.  In the long run (i.e. over indefinite amount of time) you would theoretically get the same rewards mining in a pool or mining solo.  However, in practice, mining pools allow miners with lower hashrates to earn regular rewards more quickly (a fact that is especially true with coins that have a high difficulty - such as BTC).

I would recommend that anyone new to mining DGB start mining in a pool.  I would recommend using the official Developer DigiHash Pool because it helps support DGB.

If you intend to mine with a GPU, you will want to use any of the algorithms EXCEPT SHA-256.  SHA is pretty much all ASIC at this point.  Scrypt is both ASIC and GPU, but the GPU hash rate is going to be tiny compared to the ASIC.  I'm not an expert at GPU mining (I haven't done it for about 3 years, and I've forgotten pretty much everything).  If you do not want to use the DigiHash Easy Miner software, you will need to set up some mining software on your computer.  You might try something like multiminer (which is a GUI running on top of BFG miner).  I've never tried it for DGB and I'd be interested to hear if anyone has?

The truth is that nobody can tell you exactly what your mining rewards or costs will be ... it doesn't matter what anyone posts here or anywhere else.  People can give you rough estimates.  You can attempt to use mining calculators to get rough estimates.  But, the final result depends on many different variables (difficulty at any given moment for the algorithm you are mining, settings for the GPU, cost you pay for electricity, hashrate of the GPU, mining pool, exchange rate, need to sell to cover costs or ability to hold and trade at moments of opportunity, etc.).  I do remember when I was GPU mining.  It involved lots of little tweaks to get the most efficient settings and highest rewards.

I've been mining DGB for about 1.5 years (I don't mine any other coins).  I mine with a scrypt ASIC, and I don't mine in the summer because it's too hot.  I actually have a couple of different ASIC rigs that I use (and have used) throughout the year (and years).  I stated mining about 3.5 years ago with GPUs for LTC and small ASICs for BTC. 

Here is my best advice based on my years of experience mining:

I think you should try it.  It's fun, it's addictive, and it's a valuable way to understand digital currencies at a more fundamental level.  You're not going to get rich doing it.  I think people should start mining for a couple of reasons.  First, it is a good way to begin to understand and experience digital currencies at a deeper level.  It's not just trading; it's participating and supporting.  Don't invest tons of money into mining at the beginning.  Learn about how DGB works and start slow.  The second reason people should mine is because they believe in DGB and want to help support the network. 

   
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on 07/02/2016, 20:05:18 UTC

Enter the Feb. DigiByte Knights Challenge Contest sponsored by the DigiByteGroup
and stand the chance to win 250,000 DGB!

https://digibytegroup.com/project/challenge-contest-february-2016/


BTW, can you enter as often as you like?


already did.
about your question I don't think so. anyway I'm going to wait for the answer too. lol.

There is no rule prohibiting multiple entries.  So, yes.  It is possible to enter more than once.  However, there is a rule that requires that every entry is unique.  Therefore, you cannot use the same social media post to enter multiple times. 

We will check all of the links before we draw a winner at the beginning of March. 
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on 30/01/2016, 00:46:25 UTC

500,000 DGB buys a CoinDesk press release. Let's say 20 of us chip in, that's 25,000 each. Chump change.

Sample Title: DigiByte Set For Big Year In 2016

Content: news summary recap of the aleady implimented and in place DGB ecosystem and the key announcements about its projection, future growth and expansion plans as communicated in the recent interview and DigiReport

The DigiByte Group has experience in this, and if we can get some financing going here, we can probably count on their active participation. I'd also be willing to help with redaction, along with being a financial contributor, of course . . that's if this idea gets some momentum.

http://www.coindesk.com/press-release-submission/

I've also tweeted CoinDesk twice, once each with the 2 main "leads" to the DigiByte story. Since we really are talking about something newsworthy, we might just get a two-for-one. This is the kind of story that is so big it usually even includes user and expert reactions!



There have been a few questions about the status of current projects for the DGB Group.  We will have a "February DigiByte Knights Challenge Contest."  I'm working on getting that done in the next couple of days.

As far as marketing projects ... we have done press releases (mid-2015) for DGB Gaming.  I'm happy to consider them again.  Our projects and mission are to support the DGB community and provide support to Jared's objectives for DGB.  It's really great that we will have the 2016 roadmap because it will give us a framework to plan and organize projects.

My current plan is to focus marketing on purchasing social media advertising instead of press releases.  I think we can get more for the money with social media advertising than with paid-press releases.  I don't agree with the pay-to-play mentality of purchased press releases.  They don't reach nearly enough people and I think news should be news and not advertising.  But, I'm not ruling them out, and I am always happy to help coordinate community-member-led projects through the DGB Group.

Personally, I'd rather see us shoot from approximately $100 per month in social media advertising.  The primary obstacle is payment, which has to be made with a credit card (they don't accept DGB or BTC as payment).  I'm looking into the Coinbase debit card.  I'll update the projects over the next few weeks.

Cheers,

Eric
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on 10/01/2016, 17:52:38 UTC
Happy birthday everyone! DigiByte is now officially two years old! Thank you to the DigiByte community for all your support these last two years! 2016 is going to be a very exciting year!

As such we are pleased to introduce DiguSign: http://digusign.com/ DiguSign it in the blockchain?

DiguSign allows you to secure any document, smart contract or file in the DigiByte blockchain. Try it out and let us know what you think!



Happy 2 Year Birthday. Clear to See DigiByte is here to stay! A BIG Congratulations to all of the team and community.

Keep up the good work!

PS: Would be a great idea to have a member here make a user guide video for DiguSign with an explanation of how it works.  Plus adding an "overview" to the website. Explaining the legalalities of storing Documents and such on the blockchain and an explanation of why this is a good idea.

 Smiley


I'm going to be updating the DigiByte Group website in the coming weeks.  I'll be sure to include a guide and discussion of DiguSign.
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Re: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔$250k Investment, DigiByte Gaming, #DigiByteTip, DigiSpeed
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on 06/01/2016, 05:32:54 UTC
You've been posting here a long time MTNSAA.  If you weren't a long time member of the conversation I probably wouldn't reply.

I'm going to call bullshit on your reference to the price target.  You know, as well as I do, the price target doesn't give a date.  It doesn't say that DGB will be trading at $1 by January of 2016.  It's a long-term target.  DGB is only 2 years old.  We're only 2 years into a 21 year production cycle.  The price target is not a fixed guarantee.  You cannot use it to defend the position you are taking in your post.  There is not any problem.  I think DGB is undervalued at the moment.  But, It's not DigiByte's responsibility to attempt to manipulate the market price.

The view that DGB is doing something wrong because they are not trying to manipulate the price is hypocritical.  Hypocrisy is not even a gentle enough word.  It is disgusting.  Digital currencies began with BTC following the financial crisis in 2008.  I cannot count the number of posts about how we need digital currencies to save us from the market manipulation and greed of big banks, corporations, and corrupt governments.  Just a couple of days ago there was an article in CoinDesk that referenced the possible regulations in 2016.  All of the comments to the article railed about how regulation is a problem because BTC (and digital currencies) represent trust and open exchange, how they are disruptive technologies that will provide low fees and open access to financial exchange.  One response to the article even suggested that people should boycott any company that accepts regulation.

However, then we look at our exchanges and markets.  Our exchanges actually encourage manipulators.  They have "trollboxes" where they tacitly encourage the practice because it increases volume, which increases revenue for the exchange.  And, I look over the posts here in BTCTalk over the past year.  Let's think about the trends we've seen in the past 12 months.  More and more people openly posting about their efforts to pump and manipulate exchange.  Coin developers engaging in underhanded sabotage efforts.  BTCTalk is so bad that I don't even consider new accounts to be real people because, more often than not, they're not.  People have multiple accounts.  People sell established accounts to market manipulators.  And, people come in here and post things like ... "sorry, but it is all about the money."

If digital currencies have proven anything over the past 5 years, they have proven that there are lots of hypocrites who are just as corrupt and filled with greed as the quote-unquote big-banks.  Our exchanges are a disaster.  Our markets are manipulated to the point where people openly post about their efforts to pump coins, or write things like "just wait for the next pump," etc..  

Cryptsy is only the most recent example.  It looks to me like Cryptsy is done.  Many people are going to lose money when Cryptsy goes out of business.  Not a single person in this conversation can post a negative thing about Crypsty if they have also posted about how they are just in it for the profits.  That would be disgusting hypocrisy.  But people will do it anyway.  People in BTCTalk will post all sorts of condemnation and deeply worded laments.  They will write things about how corruption and big business are filled with scammers.  And, then those same people will continue to post about how they're just in this for the money and they will work to encourage market manipulation and unfair exchange practices.  Laying blame at the "system" is an excuse.  Saying "it's just the way things are" is nothing more than a flimsy attempt to justify personal weakness.  Even worse people attack our DGB community and developers because some of us value ideas that go beyond individual greed and corruption to profit at any cost.

I don't have any problem with profits or with traders.  I correspond regularly with many people in the DGB community.  Several of them are active traders who hold lots of different coins and actively seek to profit from exchange markets.  I have no objection to seeking profits.  I have no objection to businesses seeking to maximize returns.   I believe in free market exchange and part of that process is profit.  Profits are great.  Money is important.  I'm not suggesting that we all go live in a commune, hold hands, and sing to each other.  But, profit at any cost, without purpose, is not respectable.  Corruption is not the standard.  We can be better.  We are better than that as a DGB community.  We can make a profit an still work toward values and community.

We can make digital currencies into whatever we want in the coming years.  They can be a fantastic contribution to our world of global exchange.  Or, they can just be another example of how greed and corruption spread.  It's up to us to make DGB better and prove that we can profit and still have our dignity.  That we can believe in something like a community and contribute to that community that is more valueable than just having a bunch of individuals lie and cheat to get more money, or more profit.  We can make the world a better place, but we have to choose to do it.
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on 06/01/2016, 02:34:19 UTC
Nice buy support on Polo i have to say but if it were me before it goes i would just buy the big 3BTC sell order & knock the manipulation sideways...i know i know your all going to say then do it yourself but i am sad to say I have my fill of DGB & intend to not buy anymore until i see some major improvement in the sell sell sell situation...The thing is sometimes you have to turn the tides before the situation improves, just sat with buy orders ist working....attack the market show some balls


O no, somebody is going to comment that its not about the price, and DGB is all about community, coin features and future technology and its a long term coin and not a featureless pump and dump scamcoin.....

But I agree with your comment, watching with anticipation of a incoming price rise, does not need to be a big one just enough to cover the price of what I put in (so far).



Most of the main member of the DGB community have deliberately limited our posting over the past 30 days (including me).  The reason we've been quiet is we are waiting for you to go away.  We're not interested in you.

None of us care about your trading problems.  Deal with it yourselves and stop posting. You guys have posted more than a month of junk messages about how you are motivated by greed and don't care about the foundations of cryptocurrency or the potential benefits it has for our world.  You're just looking for a get rich quick scheme.  Because of that, you are not a part of this community or any community.  You are just embarrassing.  You are embarrassing to the hard work and efforts that any legitimate developers put into any technology or services (including DigiByte).

DigiByte has a great community.  And tremendous value and future potential.  But, you're not part of either.
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on 27/12/2015, 22:09:10 UTC
FUN ways to share and enjoy DigiByte at Christmas!

Be a real bank, while your family and friends play monopoly with your real DigiByte!

My son came up with that one, as a devious plot to get some more. Grin
Smart kid you got there Jumbley! Cheesy
hmm too smart for his own good, can't think where he gets it.  Grin

I decided, he's young enough to get paid an allowance in DigiByte!  Wink



Love it.  When they grow up they'll be able to say that they remember changing the future.
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on 17/12/2015, 04:27:15 UTC
Some Notes on the Recent Trolling:

Clearly, over the past few days we have experienced a problem with trolling in the DGB discussion.  I would like to commend our community on the efforts to remain polite and professional.  It is a testament to the quality of the DigiByte community.  My praise extends to the whole community but I want  to specifically praise 24hralttrade and bitkapp.

During the past couple of days, 24alttrade received personal attacks that were irrelevant and unnecessary.  Instead of feeling hurt, or responding in anger, he offered the attacker a discount coupon to his web store.  And, earlier today bitkapp announced the release of the updated digistats website.  Many community members voiced their support and praise.  One of the people trolling the discussion attempted to reply for bitkapp.  Instead of anger, bitkapp dealt with the situation professionally and politely.

Both 24hralttrade and bitkapp deserve credit and recognition for their work and dedication to DGB.

I have written that we encourage diverse discussion and constructive criticism.  I will always support criticism or relevant objections.  And, I hope that members of our community always feel free and open to discuss any topic, problem, or idea.

As a result of the recent trolling, I did some research, read a couple of books and a handful of articles.  If any of you are interested in further reading, I would suggest the books, Reading the Comments, by Joseph M. Reagle; or This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things, by Whitney Phillips.

Understanding Trolling:


We must begin with the fact that trolling is a social behavior.   There are two types of trolling.  The first type is general (non-specific) trolling.  The second type is targeted trolling (which is a form of cyberbullying).   Both types of trolling come from people feeling angry or marginalized.  People who troll discussions feel a general sense of low self-esteem or anger at what they perceive is loss of value or relevance.  They feel a loss of control over cultural or social trends, they struggle with understanding relevance in their lives, and they feel that their voice is marginalized in social or cultural conversations.  

Often regular members of a discussion interpret trolling as immature ranting, like a child throwing a temper tantrum.  That is a mistake.  Trolling is not a temper tantrum.  Children throw temper tantrums because they cannot control their emotions.  Trolling is a planned and deliberate activity.  In many ways, trolling is the opposite of a temper tantrum.  People who engage in trolling attempt to find members of a community to exploit.  They hunt.  They plan.  They fantasize about the power reversal.  As a result of their fantasy, they take pleasure in the process of causing other people to get angry or hurt.

People who troll discussions do it as a revenge fantasy.  While there are many individual examples of trolling, their objectives are usually categorized into three groups: (1) to exploit and feed on fear felt by others, (2) to feel a sense of power over the respected members of a community, and (3) to undermine honesty and integrity of communication.

When we deal with people who troll our discussion, we need to always remember that people who engage in trolling are living out their fantasy.  They derive pleasure from the activity of making people angry, scared, or hurt.  They often construct elaborate plans and processes for the fantasy by creating multiple user accounts, and they work to manipulate and distort the conversation because it makes them feel powerful.  Trolling gives these people feelings of power and control.

People who engage in trolling objectify the social and cultural norms of a conversation.  They feel pleasure from the activity of disrupting those social constructions.  They view themselves as activists.  They feel a deep psychological need to correct, undermine, or control the power of socially constructed norms and behaviors.

The behavior of trolling is, however, largely self-indulgence; the people who engage in trolling do not feel obligated to social constraints or conduct; they do not feel a sense of responsibility to a community; and, they do not want to hold themselves accountable for their behavior. Instead, they project responsibility for their behavior onto the social and cultural values they are disrupting.  Put another way, people troll discussions because they believe the community deserves to get trolled.  They blame the people they are trying to hurt.  They think things like: “it is your fault that I am doing this ... you deserve to be hurt.”  They view their actions as reflecting the emptiness of culture and social conversation.  In fact, their actions and trolling behaviors come from their inability to contribute productively to communities or social conversations.

How to Deal with Trolls in our Discussion:

First:

Do not give them the pleasure or power of their fantasy.  Trolling is an effort to enact a fantasy - and if we take away the pleasure, the fantasy falls apart.  We can ignore them.  Or, when we respond, we can remain calm and professional. Remember, their fantasy is a revenge fantasy.  And, remember, there are two types of behaviors, general and targeted trolling.  Over the past few days we have experienced targeted trolling.

The people, whoever they are, that are trolling our discussion are specifically targeting DGB.  They feel angry at DGB and they are working to troll the discussion to enact a revenge fantasy.  They are trying to prove that DGB is empty and valueless.  That is their fantasy.  However, because DGB is neither of those things, we don’t need to worry.  They don’t have any power to undermine our community, or development, or ideas.  It’s that simple.

Second:

Never respond cruelly or dismissively.  Remember that people who troll our conversations believe that they are activists.  They believe that they are pulling back the curtain to reveal the ugly emptiness behind a facade.  Responding cruelly or dismissively to their posts renews their belief that they need to continue trolling.

Third:

Maintain a perspective based on good-faith and accountability.  We all know when we are replying to posts that are obvious trolling.  It is easy to fall into a mindset where we feel like our responses are just tit-for-tat.  We should respond to trolls in good-faith. We should hold ourselves, and hold them, accountable for our facts, opinions, etc..  Put simply, we should respond with value, responsibility and accountability.  Remember, they are not throwing a temper tantrum.  They are hunting.  They are hunting because they want to bring down the current power of the conversation.  Winston Churchill once said that when eagles are silent, parrots jabber.  Don’t parrot them.  Be honest, funny, engaging, professional, and responsible.  As a community, we already are these things - so basically - we just need to keep being ourselves.
 

Note: I’ve pre-written a response to the people who are trolling our discussion and might consider replying to this post.  I won’t reply other than as follows:


I understand that some people lost money during the recent DGB pump. DGB didn’t have anything to do with your loss, but I understand that you blame the DGB community, and the DGB developers.

The holidays is the worst time of year to lose money in investments.  There are extra expenses, family obligations, spare time to worry, less time working to earn money, etc..  I  acknowledge that you are angry and I acknowledge that you blame DGB for the loss.  

However, your sense of loss cannot undermine our community.  You do not have the power to undermine our community.  Our work developing, promoting, and contributing to DigiByte and the community is valuable.  there’s nothing you can do that can take away that value.  

We would like it if you would join our community as a productive member of the conversation.  We appreciate constructive ideas.  We value diversity of opinion.  We have a growing and important worldwide community and we want everyone to be a productive part of that community.

There is so much that we can accomplish together, and we look forward to the coming years of building and shaping the strengths of DigiByte services, and community.
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on 15/12/2015, 16:39:29 UTC
Hi guys im newbie about this altcoin
I just want to ask how to earn digibyte with league of legends?
I saw this altcoin in youtube that you can get free tip by playing league of legends...

Welcome crairezx20.  You can check this guide that I made a few weeks ago (link below).  Toward the bottom of the guide, I also included a video that Jared made, which walks you through the whole registration process.

https://digibytegroup.com/2015/11/how-to-get-started-with-digibyte-gaming-and-league-of-legends/

Cheers,

Eric
 
ok sir last one question is it available for philipines server or not?
im always play league of legends in my country so i think this is the one way to earn while playing.
As far as i know there is no restriction on any server.
Ok sir thank you for your reply im on registration processing and downloading the digibyte wallet in my chrome....
Update: i think there my country is not available in digibyte see the image


indonesian too

I am not an expert at League of Legends.  And, the question you are asking is about which League of Legends server you should select.  I did a little bit of research and here is the response:

You should choose a League of Legend server based on a couple of criteria.  First, latency and second community.  While you can pick any server you want, if you pick a server that is closer to your region you can avoid latency issues.  However, you also need to account for the community of players in different regions.  Mostly, the community issues relate to language.  North American servers will have players that mostly speak English and Spanish, etc., etc..  You also might consider asking your friends who play League of LEgends what server they use.  You cannot change servers in League of Legends once you set it up.  Instead, you would have to reinstall and create a new account on a different server (if for instance you wanted to play in a tournament with people in a different region).

I found all that information from reading the League of Legends forum. 

When you set up your DigiByte Gaming account, you will want to select the server that you used when you installed League of Legends.

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Hi guys im newbie about this altcoin
I just want to ask how to earn digibyte with league of legends?
I saw this altcoin in youtube that you can get free tip by playing league of legends...

Welcome crairezx20.  You can check this guide that I made a few weeks ago (link below).  Toward the bottom of the guide, I also included a video that Jared made, which walks you through the whole registration process.

https://digibytegroup.com/2015/11/how-to-get-started-with-digibyte-gaming-and-league-of-legends/

Cheers,

Eric