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Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
roycilik can't pay you if he didn't know who you are on his participant list, as he don't know how much he owed you. So...
If he agrees to pay one UID, others will emerge asking their own portion as well. That is the one limitation to this, and it would be unfair to settle one UID while ignoring others if they start flooding here. The ideal solution is for Roycilik to keep doing his best to collect the shit tokens while updating hunters on frequently
Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
Op you would have using the main account to create this thread so that the reputation would given to you by having the courage to say that. [...]
Completely irrelevant to the case and [IMO] barely contributive to an absolute resolution/outcome of the case, but since several people mentioned about OP's main account... it's actually not that hard to find. OP did not do a good attempt to sever any connection between this second account from his main one. Force of habit and all.
Come to my mind, though, roycilik, you want his real UID so you can personally compensate him from your own personal wallet? I can't be 100% sure it's his, given it took me just minute to cross-reference several things and tie both account, but I'm quite confident.
I'll share it here, and OP can confirm whether it is indeed his [and he can get his due payment] if you both agreed to it.
People should focus on the topic if it is true or not, rather than asking my real bitcointalk id. anyone can PM me if want to discuss anything. . And i will share & confirm my real account along with other details if need. Thanks
Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
I'm just trying to be patient and not let the participants panic by creating a scam accusation thread. Yeah, I know they deserved the truth
you should had done that after round 2, not let the campaign run for more 2 rounds when they Didn't clear the payment as they promised. Well You're trying to be patient for what? Still is there a chance to have the Rewards? Well go ahead. Now It's upto you... Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
And Personally I've tagged Roycilik with Neutral Trust so that, Hunters can be careful before Joining his Bounty projects...
Read this thread carefully:LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system
As he didn't scam anything yet or there's no clear evidence against him, i can't tag him with negative trust for personal issue. But due to his irresponsible management and made hunters in trouble for 6-7 months, i can tag him with neutral trust with captain, in My opinion.
Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
It seems the discussion is end. Don't know the final result. But Glad that, Atleast Reputable Members have came here and discussed about this issue and they'll work on it to solve future problems.
And Personally I've tagged Roycilik with Neutral Trust so that, Hunters can be careful before Joining his Bounty projects. Bounty projects can scam, that's normal. But Hunters Should Know, there are some managers who just care about their service fees and keep promoting the scam project months after months without clearing previous round payment.
And Personally I've tagged Roycilik with Neutral Trust so that, Hunters can be careful before Joining his Bounty projects. Bounty projects can scam, that's normal. But Hunters Should Know, there are some managers who just care about their service fees and keep promoting the scam project months after months without clearing previous round payment.
Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
No matter what solution we talk about in the thread I created about this subject, it won't be perfect. There does need to be some sort of security though and I just don't think every Tom, Dick, and Harry should be managing.
ahh it seems the Truth hurts you cause you are also a flop manager since years. Your last 3-4 bounty projects also scam. So i think you are in that listing of Tom, Dick, and Harry as you mentioned above. Try to speak the truth and clear talk rather than makes things complex. Using insulting words won't make you cool as well as legend. Be polite with others.
The issue with you is you participated in a bounty and didn't get paid. Then you cry about it because you participated in something where nothing was escrowed. Then some of us are taking notice and trying to think of how to fix things and you go insulting users on an alt. lmao hilarious man
yahoo62278 i think it doesn't matter who posted this thread from which id... we need to Focus on the main point. Cause if i post the same thing again, Thus will anything be changed?? Main topic will remain same. So better to Focus on that. Thanks for your concern and why you keep posting same thing again that I'm cry for payment bla bla bla? I've clearly written what i want. I'm talking about system. Check the comment again with your eyes. Thanks
@icopress Thanks sir for supporting the truth. Bounty project can scam anytime where Managers might be innocent. I don't want them to tag with flag. I just want that,
Managers will have to refuse posting/promotion the bounty project more than 1-2 Rounds without clearing the previous round payment. TGE may need some time but not 6-7 months. Thus we hunters won't need to keep working harder months after months for rewards and won't waste our 6-7 months time for scam bounty project due to manager like roycilik irresponsibly. That's all
Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
No matter what solution we talk about in the thread I created about this subject, it won't be perfect. There does need to be some sort of security though and I just don't think every Tom, Dick, and Harry should be managing.
ahh it seems the Truth hurts you cause you are also a flop manager since years. Your last 3-4 bounty projects also scam. So i think you are in that listing of Tom, Dick, and Harry as you mentioned above. Try to speak the truth and clear talk rather than makes things complex. Using insulting words won't make you cool as well as legend. Be polite with others.
Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
If you join a bounty that has nothing escrowed, no matter who the manager is, you take responsibility for your actions. Don't make a post here crying.
The manager gets a fee for the work. Right? So why should users be left without payment if the project does not pay the funds? I do not think it is normal for the manager to say something like "Sorry guys, the project team has disappeared and you are all left without payments"This irresponsible practice should not exist in its current form. This kind of disclaimer is a fiction that is aimed only at getting a fee and covering their ass (so that they can continue to receive fees).
We can go the other way and stop this right now. A temporary red tag warning that there is no guarantee you will get paid.. Users received payments? Great! The red tag is removed (and of course the tag remains if payments were not made). I am ready to start if you support me. A few tags like this are enough to make any manager think twice before taking a fee from a dubious project in the future.
@yahoo62278, dear Manager,
It is normal that, not everyone can afford to escrow the bounty fund. Even Not team is going to give their fund anyone except some reputable managers. So it's okey if the bounty isn't escrow. It can be scammed later where I don't blame any manager or will cry as a hunter.
But what the f*** keep posting scam project for months after months, bringing 4-5 rounds with 1-2 months long campaign and keep promoting for 6-7 months without ensuring previous round payment?? Just because you received your fees & so support them with their crime? Is that seems fair to you???
My question is, why didn't you secure payment after the first two rounds before proceeding to the next rounds? If this isn't for your own self-interest, I'm not sure what is.
@Igebotz thanks sir. That's what I'm trying to point out.@icopress Thanks sir for supporting the truth. Bounty project can scam anytime where Managers might be innocent. I don't want them to tag with flag. I just want that,
Managers will have to refuse promotion the bounty project more than 1-2 Round without clearing previous round. Thus we hunters won't need to keep working harder month after months and waste our 6-7 months time for scam bounty project due to roycilik irresponsibly. That's all
Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
Honestly, if a team approaches you with this sort of proposal and says they'll pay after the TGE, ALL managers should refuse the job. ALL bounty hunters should not participate either. Make the team escrow a large amount of money if they want to run a bounty, then take the chance.
this is the point I'm looking for. Very Valueable lines. Actually any Project can turn into scam. Hunters and managers have nothing to do with it. So for you or other managers like roycilik. But it's very redicuous when a Reputable DT2 Manager Bringing a project and Keep promoting that For 6months like SWGT, bringing rounds after Rounds Without confirming previous round payment. But Keep promoting the project due to he is getting his service fee, that's wrong in my opinion. A manager should be sincere, should think about Hunters as well as investors instead of promoting scam projects months after months for money without checking or remain silent after knowing the truth, that's bad. That's the point
Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
@holydarkness thanks a lot for your effort. I don't think team gave full fund to roycilik for distribution but i believe, roycilik took facilities from them to support them and remain silence. And I already have my opinion above. Let me quote again.
Maybe they gave roycilik a healthy payment to keep silence. Thats why roycilik remained silence and keep promoting them instead of asking clear the payment.
The interesting fact is, lots of months have gone but He didn't tagged any of his SWGT bounty Thread as scammed yet
The interesting fact is, lots of months have gone but He didn't tagged any of his SWGT bounty Thread as scammed yet
Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
Because Other manager could fruad but Due to his DT2 achievement, people trusted him and continue their work.
You are confused on this. If people trust someone to work with them it is usually because of the green tags, which have nothing to do with the DT status, and which is also difficult to check if you are a newbie, but green tags can be seen right away.
Apart from this, what do you mean "fruad"?
Would like to share a opinion what Jawhead999 wrote me earlier in this thread.
It's because there's a difference between an campaign manager without reputation and the one with reputation. Campaign manager mostly focus in counting the participants' posts/verify the application and distribute the reward if they have it. A campaign manager without reputation is more likelier just want to exit scam.
Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
Don't expect people to rush tagging roycilik without hearing his side of the story and I do hope he comes to this thread to clear up the issues at hand.
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That being said
1. Did you try sending a message to the CM about the delayed payments? What was his response… The screenshots could help. You are the one who brought up this case here, so you need to share all the information instead of pushing members to go looking for Telegram groups
This is my alt account. So can't share real account screenshot. Even there's nothing in private message instead of his assurance of payment. Or what else do you expect? Its normal1. Did you try sending a message to the CM about the delayed payments? What was his response… The screenshots could help. You are the one who brought up this case here, so you need to share all the information instead of pushing members to go looking for Telegram groups
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2. Why did you continue participating in a bounty whose first payments were delayed?
Because Other manager could fruad but Due to his DT2 achievement, people trusted him and continue their work. Just posted behalf of SWGT bounty hunters who didn't received their payment.
Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
I don't really know if the project has been distributed the reward or not, but look at the bottom bounty thread, he has stated if he's not a core team of the project. Also he didn't escrow the reward, so it's belong to the owner.
*Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with SWGT nor am I involved directly in the project. I'm just helping them to run the campaign, Do with your own risk
But nobody talk against him as he is dt2 member. I saw DT members gave negative trust many bounty managers when project got scammed. But rarely saw they gave red trust to another dt member even having solid proof. I don't except justice. Just posted this to let the community know that was happened. Thanks [/b]
It's because there's a difference between an campaign manager without reputation and the one with reputation. Campaign manager mostly focus in counting the participants' posts/verify the application and distribute the reward if they have it. A campaign manager without reputation is more likelier just want to exit scam.Good points. Bounty projects can scam. It's very normal. I don't have any objections about that.
But the problem is "reputable Manager Like him who keep posted SWGT bounties till round 4, even without clearing previous bounty payment, even without any single discussion. Because he kept receiving his payment. Isn't it insane?
If other manager did that, he already tagged with negative feedback even after just 1 round. But nobody talk about him yet!!!! And thus things goes on
Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
However, we really need @roycilik personal opinion here since the OP is claiming that the team said that the funds was sent to @Roycilik already. @OP can you provide screenshots for this statement of the team?
Summoning boss @holydarkness.
Due to newbie rank I've obstacles to post outside links and others thing in comment. Even i know less about how to archive post, how to post imagine etc.
But i already mentioned the SWGT Telegram group link below in this thread (You can verify from Roycilik bounty Thread SWGT social links) . You can ask about Bounty payment once again in their main Group. Can talk with admins. Or just search "Bounty" word in their channel too see all bounty related previous discussion. Thanks
Re: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
But the question is, has there been any prior scam accusation against the user aside from the one you made? If none, then everything will depend on the legitimacy of the scam accusation you’ve raised. The evidence you provide will be the deciding factor here.
with due respect, why should i need to have multiple accusation against him when this one is true? It's like, if anyone did one murder, you just wanna let him go cause he didn't have more than one murder record???
Well, I didn't investigate about him more what had he done in past. Even I'm good at that. I just mentioned about what he did with SWGT bounty participators. Now its upto the community members and investigators
Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
Name: roycilik
Rank: Legendary
BTT Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1051955
Issue: Roycilik is involved with A bounty scam.
campaign Name: Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
Greeting everyone. Bitcointalk helps new people a lot to know about cryptocurrencies. And Members always concern about scammers to safe innocent new members from them..
roycilik brought a bounty campaign named Smart World Global Token (SWGT) in January, 2024 , 1month long project And mentioned Payment will be sent after TGE. Then he Brought another round and keep doing the same thing. Mentioned that, payment will be send after 2 months later in thread but TGE was done, listing was done long ago, 6 months bounties were running and another 6 months have gone. But nothing is paid yet.
Some members talk about this issue in main SWGT group. Admins told that, Roycilik is responsible for everything. We are clear from our side. Talk with him but roycilik keep ignoring this issue as if nothing is happened.
Bounty project can be scammed, team can cheat. That's okey. But what if a careless and selfish manager continuously posted bounties without confirming the payment but have a relax with his weekly fees. Isn't that great??? I created this thread only for this reason.
But nobody talk against him as he is dt2 member. I saw DT members gave negative trust many bounty managers when project got scammed. But rarely saw they gave red trust to another dt member even having solid proof. I don't except justice. Just posted this to let the community know that was happened. Thanks
[Round 1(4weeks long in January): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482620.0
[Round 2 (4weeks long in February): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5487006.0
[Round 3(8weeks long in April): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5491882.0
[Round 4(4weeks long but stopped after 2 weeks): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5500078.0
Rank: Legendary
BTT Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1051955
Issue: Roycilik is involved with A bounty scam.
campaign Name: Smart World Global Token (SWGT)
Greeting everyone. Bitcointalk helps new people a lot to know about cryptocurrencies. And Members always concern about scammers to safe innocent new members from them..
roycilik brought a bounty campaign named Smart World Global Token (SWGT) in January, 2024 , 1month long project And mentioned Payment will be sent after TGE. Then he Brought another round and keep doing the same thing. Mentioned that, payment will be send after 2 months later in thread but TGE was done, listing was done long ago, 6 months bounties were running and another 6 months have gone. But nothing is paid yet.
Some members talk about this issue in main SWGT group. Admins told that, Roycilik is responsible for everything. We are clear from our side. Talk with him but roycilik keep ignoring this issue as if nothing is happened.
Bounty project can be scammed, team can cheat. That's okey. But what if a careless and selfish manager continuously posted bounties without confirming the payment but have a relax with his weekly fees. Isn't that great??? I created this thread only for this reason.
But nobody talk against him as he is dt2 member. I saw DT members gave negative trust many bounty managers when project got scammed. But rarely saw they gave red trust to another dt member even having solid proof. I don't except justice. Just posted this to let the community know that was happened. Thanks
[Round 1(4weeks long in January): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482620.0
[Round 2 (4weeks long in February): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5487006.0
[Round 3(8weeks long in April): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5491882.0
[Round 4(4weeks long but stopped after 2 weeks): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5500078.0
Please can you explain to me how this rank stuff works? I left newbie to jr member.
The feelings though was great
for rank up, you need to earn merits. Merits wil be given to you if you help people, give them information, save people from scamming and many more way to get Merits from upper rank member. Check this thread for know more The feelings though was great
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0
Yesterday I became a junior member from Newbie. I heard that pictures can be posted if you are a junior member. So I want to post the first picture.
A peaceful night in Bitcoin village
https://i.ibb.co/HYZG1KZ/bitcoin-city.png
Congratulations mate for your rank up. Keep helping people and keep doing good works for this forum. Moreover i can see you already have 9 Merit and let you know, you'll rank up from jr member to member if you get 1 more merit. As i can see you are still active. So keep doing helpful posts for people and this community. And yeah, this picture is really satisfying and beautifulA peaceful night in Bitcoin village
https://i.ibb.co/HYZG1KZ/bitcoin-city.png
