More like the "I could be rich by now why did I ever bother with "investing" -damnit" issue? Yeah, I quite remember. Well, lesson learned.

I have tried catching the fall every time, but lately, I constantly find I would have been better off just holding them. Guess that's what I'll do from now on 

no need to repeat that scene 

I doublt I have friends interested...

So you will sell the business and distribute the profits among shareholders on BitFunders?

The deadline of the shutdown of the site is approaching quite fast...

Mhh, il fatto che si sia ancora qui a discutere delle stesse cose di 6 mesi fa mi fa leggermente dubitare dell'intuitività del sistema.

A che punto siamo con l'adozione?

The error we see is from Incapsula, which SHOULD protect against DDoS! http://www.incapsula.com/ It looks like it's really the servers; or could the attachers have bypassed the CDN?

That's where Ripple comes in. If you can convert your bitcoins on-the-fly to pay others who don't accept it -then it works.

What?

You can install Linux alongside Windows, it takes at most 1 min or so to change from one to the other.

You can run one inside the other inside a VM (some do so, if the office doesn't allow them to install a new OS)

You can even install Ubuntu from inside Windows as a program, with Wubi (or any distro with Unetbootin).

Just because the common people don't know how easy it is doesn't mean it isn't. There is no choice to be made if you don't want to; just as with bitcoins. It's only the difficulty to start using something new and different, not pushed and supported by some huge corporation.

was he referring to verses as "and the beast will impose its mark on them, and no one will be allowed to trade without the mark" in the apocalypse? Or what else?

Please post the exact reference, it must be funny!

Server and other does not matter, it is a different story. Banks do not need bitcoins between them.
And even if they did adopt the idea, they would just fork a chain they control. As they would do to use it as an embedded hiddel layer in a commercial app. Just like Ripple did, after all. Nothing good for Bitcoin comes from the equivalent of "server" and "embedded" uses.
I was talking about mass direct user adoption, which apparently didn't happen for Linux. I am using numbers from http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp. Being a site for programming enthousiasts, I figure it must be at least double than the real usage. And most importantly, the number is not increasing since 2010. And Android does not count: as someone noticed, what I was really refering to is GNU/Linux, which Android isn't -it falls under the "embedded" category for my purposes; a layer which enables something else. And that in case of cryptos, it would be probably a blockchain premined by Google.

Discolsure: I do not hate Rpple or Ubuntu; in fact, Ubuntu is almost the only operating system I have used in the last years.

The idea behind Ripple is that you should only trust people you believe will pay for some good reason. If you trust random people, your problem, this is my position.

Come to think of it.

* Both free, versatile, powerful, in short awesome
* Both faced with a competition either inferior or insanely priced, and in any case unfree as hell.
* Both with a base of enthusiast supporters all absolutely sure that "this year will be our year, we will take over the world!". Every year.

Except Linux has been around 23 years now. It has been adopted by maybe a 2% of tech enthousiasts, and behind the scenes by many big players as an invisible base for their services -but common people apparently still love to defragment and scan for viruses. Although many know there is something called "linux"; just as many have heard of bitcoin recently.

Still, the mental effort required for the change is commonly believed to be too much -although the transition has arguably been made as easy as it could possibly be.
So apparently, without a (really) big company to push for adoption, universal success among common people is unlikely.

(Oh: among crypto, Bitcoin is Debian -and Ripple looks a lot like it could be Ubuntu)

Altra cosa necessaria è permettere di ottenere più facilmente gli XRP iniziali. Non è possibile che tutti debbano andare sui forum a chiederli in regalo/prestito, o perfino a comprarli a 3 volte il prezzo di mercato, è ridicolo...

I have bought Litecoin in the hope that after all this alt-coin chaos people will turn to the only established alt 

(oh, and I bought some PPC too, since it's the only remotely innovative)

You get an adress to deposit BTCs, yes. I have used both MtGox and BitStamp, both work, it depends on your preferences (and location: BitStamp is better for europeans for instance).

 If you are going to use it for business, though, I recall there are services specifically targeted at making your life much easier than it woyuld be with a bare-bone exchange functionality, might be worth searching for them.

It is at the moment, but it is stated that it's in beta. People who believe in it count on the fact that it will become open source and distributed.


Do you use an exchange? The numbers you see in you balance are a 'promise'.
Just don't trust people you wouldn't trust otherwise.

Ripple IOUs are binding agreements if and only if people believe they are.

Just as US police could or could not decide bitcoins have value, and thus persecute or not persecute someone who stole them. Same thing: the infrastructure is there, we give it meaning.

Anyway, never trust people not trustworthy, and the problem will go away by itself.

That's not true, XRP are a cryptocurrency and you do own it directly, it's not a IOU.

Funnier and funnier.