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Re: Assault weapon bans
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 10/07/2013, 15:29:04 UTC
What is a high capacity for a pistol, more than 6? more than 10? just about any magazine fed pistol you can slap in an extended magazine in place of the regular one.

Up here, any handgun magazine that holds more than 10 rounds gets classified as "prohibited" (not prohibited prohibited.  It's technically possible for someone to be licensed to possess "prohibited" weapons, but it's almost impossible to actually do so).  Handguns in general are "restricted" and far more rare than in the USA, and you can pretty much forget about carrying one around unless you're an armoured car guard or similar or can convince a judge you have a real good reason to carry one.

For semi-automatic centre-fire rifles (manual action rifles or anything using rim-fire ammunition can have as much magazine as you like), the limit is 5 rounds.

Don't forget, .32's and most assault rifles are prohibited too.
Also, don't forget the RCMP like to steal guns as well:

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/2523158370001
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Re: Assault weapon bans
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 10/07/2013, 15:18:19 UTC
You USA people are scary when it comes to your human right to bear arms. UK has the best gun laws - ban'em.

UK's citizens live in fear, and the UK has a much higher violent crime rate.
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Re: A Resource Based Economy
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 10/07/2013, 15:10:14 UTC
I don't see any coercion in any of those actions.  All employees were always free to leave.
Problem is it's an ecosystem supported top down by (for instance) Nike execs all the way down to the workers realistically will never be able to become a Nike exec. Nike parasites on the low position of these people and will work hard to keep the situation that way as long as possible. Nike fully knew these people were payed very very little and didn't make sure they were payed anything that we would consider reasonable. They tell excuses that these people get opportunities while they pay them salaries that would be completely unacceptable in the western world. They have the power to give those people more yet they choose to cultivate these environments of near slavery.
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 As far as Shell poisoning water is concerned, since when was Shell responsible for the water there?  
They are always responsible, they just didn't take that responsibility and there was noone to force them to do so.
It is just an example of what big companies naturally do when left to themselfs. They don't give a shit about people or the earth or governments or whatnot if they don't have to.
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The state is the entity in control of water quality there, and I'm sure that Shell didn't have the troops, not Shell, so once again, the state fails.
So the lesson here is that you need a force at least as big as the potential conglomerate you whish to run loose in your free economy to prevent things from going astray.

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Microsoft coerces no-one to buy their products or work for them, same with Apple.
Microsoft included a browser in an OS, no issues there, either buy it or go with Linux of FreeBSD.
Microsoft had a near monopoly on operating systems and arranged for various vendor lock-in arrangements that basically slowly tricked society into getting hooked on microsoft products. They infiltrated some key structures and leveraged compatibility.
And coercion doesn't allways mean you push someone in a certain direction. It can also mean that you manipulate the choices people perceive to make them walk 'freely' in a direction you desire.
In that respect microsoft has been pretty abusive in the past, but more recently other companies like google and facebook really hit the nail when it comes to parasitic relations with their customers. No other companies have ever turned their customers into their product so successfully. A lot of psychology goes into those to make them seem 'non-evil' but that doesn't mean they aren't. At least their product base makes their lifes easier by providing detailed reports of their lifes. Broadcasting the message of 'we're not evil' becomes pretty simple if your receivers tell you how they want to hear it...
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Have you never heard the saying "Caveat Emptor"?  You and your ilk want a state to protect you from your own folly.
Caveat emptor is quite a risk when your livelyhood depends on a deal. This is not a mechanism most people would want to prevail in society. People want more security. They don't want someone to sell a huge party of poisonous wine so that 10% of the population dies while he goes of to live on an island. They also don't want to check every bottle on the market for poison. So some rules are desirable.
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OK, so, can you provide any real cases where a company, not a government, oppressed anyone?
Well, if you didn't think those were examples of oppression then you sure have a shallow definition of freedom.
If i candidly pump the water from under your land and you have no idea why your crop fails and i sell the water to you on a free market, is that coercion? And can you still call such a market free? And how will you prevent such a thing without rules or laws that can be enforced with violence?




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The state is the entity in control of water quality there, and I'm sure that Shell didn't have the troops, not Shell, so once again, the state fails.
So the lesson here is that you need a force at least as big as the potential conglomerate you whish to run loose in your free economy to prevent things from going astray.

So, the state failed, and you see that as a lesson that we need a bigger state.
Wow.
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Re: A Resource Based Economy
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 08/07/2013, 23:13:41 UTC
Plus assholes generally don't last in the market for very long, since, no one really buys stuff from assholes. They are assholes, after all (yes, I'm aware BFL somewhat flies in the face of this). Think of how many huge corps we have now who aren't assholes, like Apple, Google, Vanguard, Honda, and how many asshole companies have collapsed spectacularly once they were found out.
I realy need to sleep, but i couldn't resist.

You do know that assholes are usually only a part of some larger organism, right?
It can be very profitable for a relatively non-evil company to do relatively evil things if you can handle the PR. If the many multinationals didn't play it on the edge of morality they wouldn't get over the edge so often. In the end they expand the edges of morality to gain new territory for profit. And that is an erosive force to society.



Thank god for the self-appointed protectors of the people against the erosive forces that threaten society!
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Re: A Resource Based Economy
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 08/07/2013, 23:05:24 UTC
And lastly, I would like to hear an example of a company oppressing anyone.  Personally, I cannot think of one single example of a company oppressing anyone, ever.  So, names, dates, and what form of oppression, if anyone has any real facts to present to back up their claims that free-market capitalists oppress people.

What planet are you from?
Never heared of Nike? Or Apple? Or Shell? Or Microsoft?
Nike knowingly support(s/ed) child labour.
http://www1.american.edu/ted/nike.htm
Apple likewise, but  they sure are no exception.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7330986/Apple-admits-using-child-labour.html
Shell oppressed people in africa that didn't like them poisoning their water.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/01/2013130214524796.html
Microsoft oprressed competitors and was convicted for abusing their monopoly on the browser market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Microsoft_competition_case
All big tech companies use patents to oppress each other and the new guys. Absolutely massive waste of resources.

And those are just the obvious ones and not even really monopolies. If they had the freedom to become more monopolistic there would be worse examples of disgressions.
But companies misbehave all the time. On any levels. I could go on and on stating court cases where companies were acting oppressingly against persons or other companies.

What is needed , and this counts equally well for a free market as for a regulated market or even a government, is a way for society to control the future of any large accumulation of capital. If these large structures are left to themselfs they can become increasingly selfish.
 


I don't see any coercion in any of those actions.  All employees were always free to leave. As far as Shell poisoning water is concerned, since when was Shell responsible for the water there?  The state is the entity in control of water quality there, and I'm sure that Shell didn't have the troops, not Shell, so once again, the state fails.
Microsoft coerces no-one to buy their products or work for them, same with Apple.
Microsoft included a browser in an OS, no issues there, either buy it or go with Linux of FreeBSD.
So far, you have only proven my point that the state is bad.

Have you never heard the saying "Caveat Emptor"?  You and your ilk want a state to protect you from your own folly.



OK, so, can you provide any real cases where a company, not a government, oppressed anyone?
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Re: A Resource Based Economy
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 08/07/2013, 21:03:03 UTC
And lastly, I would like to hear an example of a company oppressing anyone.  Personally, I cannot think of one single example of a company oppressing anyone, ever.  So, names, dates, and what form of oppression, if anyone has any real facts to present to back up their claims that free-market capitalists oppress people.
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Re: A Resource Based Economy
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 08/07/2013, 20:53:08 UTC
Interesting. We, market invents this crazy digital currency, this market gets so big that it at tracks hackers, criminals, tricksters, and scammers, including many ponzi scheme operators, there was a public outcry when things went really bad and ponzi schemes collapsed like dominos, yet no one stepped in to regulate it. So, is Bitcoin dead now? Is it continuing to exist in an unregulated way? What happened that it doesn't seem to want to follow your method?

Eeh, haven't you noticed everyone wants to regulate cryptos these days?
But bitcoin is not FIAT so will be regulated a lot less. FIATs are at the core of all western society so they requires a lot of failsafes. If a FIAT goes down all basic stuff around it goes down. If bitcoin goes down nobody really cares. Not on the scale of the world, anyway.



FIAT will go down, eventually, as there is too much opportunity for corruption at the hands of the state and central bankers.  Precious metals, on the other hand, will probably never go down.
Also, because bitcoin is distributed, and does not require central banks/servers, the only way to regulate it would be yet more coercive steps by states, like banning heavy encryption, certain software, etc.  The enforcement would necessitate some rather totalitarian measures.
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Re: A Resource Based Economy
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 08/07/2013, 20:40:27 UTC

There's no "free-ish" markets. There are free markets, and there are coercive markets. If someone is forced to toil or purchase something against their will, that's not a free market any more. If your argument is that free markets can't survive the influx of assholes, then argue that, and we'll have a discussion about how to keep assholes out of free markets.
Of course there are free-ish markets.

I don't see how reality is anything near this black and white.
So what's your definition of free market anyway? What aspects do you consider coercive? Regulations? Laws?

I have been arguing that when you start out with a free market that is not protected by some statist structure the assholes will win quicker. Assholes will be there, free market or not. It's just that a free market offers more opportunity to being played with. When the ante is small, that's ok. But when the ante is your livelyhood or your house, not so ok.
You will need some way to prevent monopolies without coercion. Monopolies completely destroy the idea of a free market. For a lot of things someone is going to be top dog because being a little better can get you all of the business. Not just because they are assholes, but because it is how the game of free markets is played. Monopolies give power and that will invariably get abused.


Historically, the assholes always got more free reign in centrally controlled economies.
ZeitG is an example of a centrally controlled economy, and any implementation of it would result in massive levels of coercion.
Read "The Machinery of Freedom".  There are ways to ensure some degree of justice, and have protection from coercion without statist structures.
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Re: A Resource Based Economy
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 08/07/2013, 18:25:16 UTC

What is the optimal distribution of wealth?

Well, you have free-market economies, which generally prosper, and everything else, which generally results in widespread poverty and death for those upon whom it is forced.

As to your assertion that the free-market does not exist, I can only sigh.

Some free market emerges, market gets so big it attracts criminals and tricksters, market gets hijacked by clever manipulation, not by providing best product to where its needed, public outcry for regulations. Rince, repeat.
That is why markets can only be relatively free. They will always start to abuse their freedom and so we get these regulations.

If purely free markets were possible then everyone would do that instead, right?


Markets get hijacked by states.  Most regulations are there to promote and/or preserve monopolies.

Just so we're clear on one thing, Zeitgeist is basically just Communism re-dressed with new-age lingo.
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Re: A Resource Based Economy
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 08/07/2013, 18:07:32 UTC

What is the optimal distribution of wealth?

Well, you have free-market economies, which generally prosper, and everything else, which generally results in widespread poverty and death for those upon whom it is forced.

As to your assertion that the free-market does not exist, I can only sigh.


Free-ish markets also consume much more natural resources and are the least sustainable from that standpoint. Also, our western 'free' markets thrive on the backs of cheap labour countries. Without them things would not look so free anymore. The 'freedom' of the world markets is enforced with violence. "What did you say, Saddam? You want to sell oil to china and not to us? Fuck you, we will take your country and rape it for decades."
Free markets can be pretty abusive and selfish. So you have to ask yourself if the prosperity justifies the damage they can do. At the very least you would have to be ready with dealing with the inevitable scaling problems of free economies. People with moey and power are in the position to outgrow all and everyone.
So this is, unfortunately, not an optimum by itself. It will grow out of proportions because people are powerhungry assholes.

So my assertion is that you cannot have a large free market without some statist control. Free markets can only exist within other structures that guarantee the internal freedoms. The problem with markets is that on the outside, and even within if the market becomes more complex, the market does not care. Markets, if left uncontroled, are perfectly capable of destroying the very soil they get their produce from. People, on average, are not good in these games and this allows a small group of individuals to win the market.
The normal historical transaction is something like this: Some free market emerges, market gets so big it attracts criminals and tricksters, market gets hijacked by clever manipulation, not by providing best product to where its needed, public outcry for regulations. Rince, repeat.
That is why markets can only be relatively free. They will always start to abuse their freedom and so we get these regulations.

If purely free markets were possible then everyone would do that instead, right?


So my assertion is that you cannot have a large free market without some statist control.


Iceland had free-market law, and no state for a few hundred years, and Ireland went without a state for almost 1000 years, and yet markets thrived in both places.  History indicates that your assertion is incorrect.
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Re: A Resource Based Economy
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 08/07/2013, 14:51:08 UTC
A lot of logical fallacies going on here, and logical level-crossing.
Genetics is a method of optimizing resource use to achieve goals, and brains are simply an faster way of doing so than genetics alone.


Talking about logical fallacies  Roll Eyes
Genetics is not a method, it is a research area.
What we find in the field of genetics has absolutely nothing to do with optimizing resources.
Genetics is all about adaptation for survival.
If resources are plenty then genetics does not care so optimizing for resources happens only when there is a real need for it.
Most of the time genetics just provides for better ways of reproducing.

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The human mind is also a seeker of local optima, shortest path to achieve certain goals, which often involve coercion.
The free-market is an organic result of human minds seeking optima, and not a "creation" in the sense that a car, gun, or space shuttle are creations.
 
The human mind is many things but only a small part of it is this local optima seeker.
The free market is an ideal fantasy thought up by theoretical economists. It can not exist unless forced because the human mind, as you note, often involves coercion as a solution. So by your own observation of the human mind you could not ever have emergence of truly free markets, simply because human minds do not work along those exact ideals.
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The free-market, also, by it's very nature, does not involve coercion.
The free-market has proven, time and time again, to be the optimal wealth distribution method, and as it is a natural result of the human desire to be more wealthy, as opposed to some clumsy system dreamed up by some ideologue (like Zeitgeist, communism, etc.), will always perform better, as it is the result of 4.5 billion years of evolution.  (Evolution = seeking optima)
The free market does not involve coercion because it does not realy exist.
Tell me, what IS an optimal distribution of wealth?

Surely you would agree that getting resources to where they are needed is the more optimal solution for the long run for any society, right?
So how does free market make sure resources get to where they're needed and not to where people pay the most?
I don't realy see it happen.

Are you sure you are not just confusing the word 'optimal' with the word 'efficient' ?

What is the optimal distribution of wealth?

Well, you have free-market economies, which generally prosper, and everything else, which generally results in widespread poverty and death for those upon whom it is forced.

As to your assertion that the free-market does not exist, I can only sigh.
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Re: A Resource Based Economy
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 08/07/2013, 01:25:06 UTC
A lot of logical fallacies going on here, and logical level-crossing.
Genetics is a method of optimizing resource use to achieve goals, and brains are simply an faster way of doing so than genetics alone.
The human mind is also a seeker of local optima, shortest path to achieve certain goals, which often involve coercion.
The free-market is an organic result of human minds seeking optima, and not a "creation" in the sense that a car, gun, or space shuttle are creations.
The free-market, also, by it's very nature, does not involve coercion.
The free-market has proven, time and time again, to be the optimal wealth distribution method, and as it is a natural result of the human desire to be more wealthy, as opposed to some clumsy system dreamed up by some ideologue (like Zeitgeist, communism, etc.), will always perform better, as it is the result of 4.5 billion years of evolution.  (Evolution = seeking optima)
 


Human resourcing today and the phenomena of  free markets really are amazing despite their problems, but I'm sure most people agree that it could be improved upon, or at least better implemented. Keeping politics out of markets is a false dilemma if anyone is thinking that. Every action is in some way political, at least while humans are humans.

 
I strongly disagree.  Free-markets are a result of 4.5 billion years of evolution.  To think that they can be "improved upon" is purest folly.  It's like saying the human brain can be improved upon.  Evolution may improve upon it, but humans a clearly unqualified to do so.

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Re: A Resource Based Economy
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 08/07/2013, 00:24:18 UTC
A lot of logical fallacies going on here, and logical level-crossing.
Genetics is a method of optimizing resource use to achieve goals, and brains are simply an faster way of doing so than genetics alone.
The human mind is also a seeker of local optima, shortest path to achieve certain goals, which often involve coercion.
The free-market is an organic result of human minds seeking optima, and not a "creation" in the sense that a car, gun, or space shuttle are creations.
The free-market, also, by it's very nature, does not involve coercion.
The free-market has proven, time and time again, to be the optimal wealth distribution method, and as it is a natural result of the human desire to be more wealthy, as opposed to some clumsy system dreamed up by some ideologue (like Zeitgeist, communism, etc.), will always perform better, as it is the result of 4.5 billion years of evolution.  (Evolution = seeking optima)
 
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Re: Assault weapon bans
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 07/07/2013, 20:53:12 UTC
If you were going to kill a bunch of kids in a school, what would be your weapon of choice? A knife? A shotgun? A pistol? A piece of wood? Maybe something that can spit out the most projectiles per second? i.e. An assault rifle?


Fully automatic rifles were not mainly made for shooting more people more quickly. The vast majority of bullets fired in war never hit anyone. They are fired in order to make the enemy keep their heads down and allow friendly forces to advance and flank the enemy in order to win with minimum loss of life on BOTH SIDES. This is called 'suppressive fire' and the more bullets fired the better.

Fully automatic rifles fired in full auto mode are MUCH less accurate than single shot semi-automatics because each shot's recoil moves the following shots off target.

Conclusion:

The weapon a logical criminal sicko would choose for killing lots of unarmed people efficiently in a small space is the semi-automatic rifle.


While it is true that in a war, single, well-aimed shots are the most effective, and that full-auto in military use is mainly used for covering fire to keep the enemies head down, in a civilian population, say a crowd at a concert or a movie, a full-auto can take out more people more quickly.
That being said, I don't think full-auto weapons should be banned.
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Re: The kill/trade game
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 17/05/2013, 23:53:54 UTC
There is a great story called "The Day of The Wolf", by Fritz Leiber, in which when humans meet, they will either mate or kill.
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Re: Is it time to get rid of Linux/JavaScript/Python kids?
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 28/04/2013, 21:49:46 UTC
Certainly not, but it's a programming environment, not a point-n-click web app generator.  As a programmer, I'm pretty sure you understand the difference.

Actually CIYAM is also a "programming environment" (although you *can* generate web apps easily also) - my point being that the next generation of programming is going to look a lot more like what I've demonstrated (I would also recommend looking at Intentional Software).

I am pretty sure that the future of software is "software manufacturing" (although maybe not my particular way of doing this of course).


I'm old, so I use LAMP.
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Re: Introduce yourself :)
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 21/04/2013, 14:31:15 UTC
Hello from Australia!
My name is Craig and I work for an NGO in child safety services.
I've been watching the forum for about three weeks and finally decided to join it.
I'm very interested to see the development of Bitcoins and related communities.

NGO = Government funded?  Can you Aussies not make sure your children are safe without NGO's?

If so...**moocher**  **cough **.

Just kidding, welcome aboard, start mining or hashing for the cause asap.

Yes NGO = Non-Government Organisation
We are funded to care for children that have been relinquished by there parents due to extreme needs.

Thanks for the welcome Smiley

"Are there no prisons?  Are there no workhouses?"

Erm..... What are you asking?

It's a quote from "A Christmas Carol", when Scrooge was asked what to do about the homeless children.
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Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much?
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 21/04/2013, 12:28:08 UTC
Fair 'nuff.  I've been arguing IP rights with myrkul for a bit, I may have gotten a bit hostile. please forgive me.
Anger is a sign that you're taking an issue personally, that you are emotionally invested, and may not be thinking entirely logically. Perhaps you should step back and think about things for a few minutes.

You do have a point.  I do often show some degree of hostility to those that I consider to be espousing positions that may be a threat to my freedom, and that is my demon to wrestle with.  I do try not to make ad-hominem attacks, or use foul language, but I also believe very strongly in freedom, as an AnCap guy.
As you may have guessed, I'm an AnCap as well, and I believe just as strongly in freedom as do you. If you can remain civil, I promise to, too. Wink

Excellent.  I look forward to discussing things with you.  Even though we may not agree on many things, a discussion of nuance and real-world application is often eye-opening.
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Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much?
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 21/04/2013, 01:37:01 UTC
Fair 'nuff.  I've been arguing IP rights with myrkul for a bit, I may have gotten a bit hostile. please forgive me.
Anger is a sign that you're taking an issue personally, that you are emotionally invested, and may not be thinking entirely logically. Perhaps you should step back and think about things for a few minutes.

You do have a point.  I do often show some degree of hostility to those that I consider to be espousing positions that may be a threat to my freedom, and that is my demon to wrestle with.  I do try not to make ad-hominem attacks, or use foul language, but I also believe very strongly in freedom, as an AnCap guy.
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Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much?
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FreedomEqualsRiches
on 21/04/2013, 01:15:48 UTC
Simple answer: Because socialism denies individual rights.  I have the right to mine metal and make a widget, I have the right to sell apples, and the "human rights" of others, who may be starving do not supersede my rights, no matter how badly they hurt.

dont you know, freedom means everything is free

No, it doesn't.  Freedom means being able to have a free and clear title/ownership of something, without some do-gooder socialist trying to steal it.

It was a joke. Mb a little too subtle =P

Fair 'nuff.  I've been arguing IP rights with myrkul for a bit, I may have gotten a bit hostile. please forgive me.