Hola,

Cuales bancos en España son los mejores para retiros de intercambios y que no te molesten?

Hay alguna diferencia entre usar una intercambio española o extranjero?

Mi situación es que estoy pagando impuestos a otro país hasta fin de año y luego estoy tratando de cambiar mi residencia fiscal a España para el próximo año.

Cree que tendré una "pizarra limpia" para el sistema fiscal Español en ese momento?

Por ejemplo, si retiro mis criptos de intercambios durante este año a la billitera Trezor, debería quedar libre de 720, etc., correcto?


Gracias por el consejo para el canal de Youtube, parece una empresa bueno!

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Y si alguien conoce buenos abogados o contadores de criptos en Madrid, házmelo saber!

A primera vista esto parecía realmente bueno...

... Pero cuando miras más de cerca, se supone que la firma está en Madrid y hay una ubicación en el mapa que muestra Londres - Y sobre la firma la sección está llena de "Lorem Ipsum"

No estoy seguro de poder confiar en una empresa que no puede hacer que su sitio web sea correcto 

Gracias por su respuesta!

Tengo otras razones por estar en Madrid y lo se el situación en Portugal pero no quiero vivir allí

Estoy un extranjero quien esta a punto de mudarse a España

Acabo de leer del sitio web de koily.io sobre la ley actual sobre criptomonedas y estoy confundido   

Alguien conoce a algún experto al que pueda consultar sobre impuestos (y cómo pagar lo menos posible) en Madrid?

Hola!

Estoy un extranjero y mudarme en Madrid pronto.

Acabo de leer del sitio web de koily.io sobre la ley actual sobre criptomonedas y estoy confundido 

Alguien conoce a algún experto al que pueda consultar sobre impuestos en Madrid?

I just had an idea..

Tradingview is probably getting noticed by more and more cryptocurrency enthusiast as a "part of the kit" platform for more professionally minded and hobbyists alike.

For those who are not aware, Tradingview is standard platform for stocks, forex etc. markets and also has cryptocurrencies BTM ticker at Poloniex included and the chat is absolutely buzzing.

Now, I'm not exactly sure if Bitmark could be applied interfacing with their account id systems at all...

But I've got an inkling that they are eager to get crypto trading possibilities right into their platform.
This would mean that they might be planning or at least interested in an idea to link their platform to blockchains in a way that at least on some level each user might have reputation system connectable layer.
Don't they accept BTC for subscription payment already?

Tradingview currently uses likes and follows like so many other platforms out there, which could be an incentive for them to offer users a degree of chance to earn money for creating quality ideas (shared chart analysis'). Monetizing this space could give Tradingview more paid subscribers in return in order to make business sense out of this. And the rest of the standard selling points for this type of coin!

I know it sounds like a long shot to some, and possibly is, but just throwing it out there out of curiosity  

EU is not supposed to be all united, well, apart from pro EU Federal State neoliberal corporatist's / bureaucrats kind of people's dreams.

European nations have their own long term traditions of law, economic policies, culture and so on and to compare the states of the US are, even if thought of as local law sandboxes, still very much bound by the Federal jurisdiction.

EU citizens in most EU countries are generally quite in much of opposition to generalizing everything for everyone as it tends to benefit only few economies while others suffer as the last recession clearly showed. Re-nationalization is a strong movement in last few years to counter idealism which has not translated into practice - Namely as cultures and economies within the regions are vastly different and have minds of their own.


Majority of the people can't "just move" apart from their holidays.
Most people are still tied to local employment and thus very immobile.
Other limiting factors are language and cultural barriers that prevent ordinary people to make a leap.

Even if you could remove 10-20 % of taxation in some cases, you'd had to uproot your entire life, learn new language, etc.
Conformism, nationalism, comfort zones... Many reasons pile up to make it a very different zone that say, the US is, where you could hop State very easily as an average citizen.


Netherlands would make sense for some as you are right for capital gains being very low, but for instance, I'd rather pay 20% to Spain than 2% to Netherlands for the sole reason of weather, language, culture, choice of different cities, local climates, people's outlook on life etc.

The problem with most tax residency laws is that you actually have to spend more than 6 months in a year to keep on enjoying (or not) those levels of taxation... Chancing tax residencies is not a quick process of packing your bags and going to another country as the laws are bit more persistent than just booking a flight and going - Freedom of travel is an amazing thing, but tax laws are very different thing.
I hope this made sense to you and you'll have a better idea why things are the way they are

This is the kind of clarification I was looking for!
I got a feeling the lawyer was talking about just his own opinion, but wasn't sure.

Having to do individual profit/loss calculation on each trade would be a monumental task to do and if it ever got to the point where a tax office would ask me the details, I'd perhaps print out several hundreds of pages of exchange transactions and let them figure it out themselves 

To me it sounds most plausible that they won't bother if your income is not astronomical.

Thanks a lot for referring that firm, I've been looking for ones if I ever need some consultation in the future! 

Adding to my earlier questions the link for the site provided by Don Pedro Dinero above:

(http://www.bolsamania.com/noticias/declaracion-renta/los-impuestos-del-bitcoin-y-el-ether-asi-tributan-operadores-mineros-y-comercios-que-trabajan-con-criptodivisas--2724307.html)


I'm still confused about value gained between alt transactions...

All my BTC purchases happened years ago with insignificant amounts and thus I'm not even interested in reporting deductions of sales.
If I became a tax resident in Spain, could I just simply report taxes simply by declaring capital gains tax on the BTC converted to Euros?

Can a Spanish resident trader simply sell BTC to EUR into bank account and just report that as capital gains and be done with it?

For me I couldn't justify residing in a jurisdiction which required me to report every single trade I've made between cryptocurrencies...

Anyone got a clue / where to get completely reliable information about this?

If this is true, being tax compliant in Spain becomes a hell for an active trader.

Strangely it contradicts somewhat with:


No real value before conversion to Euros, but liable to taxation in change of equity between cryptos.
I know some other European countries agreeing with the "no real money before converted" thinking, but sane enough not to say you need to announce profits trading between BTC/altcoin pairs. Can someone confirm this schizophrenic ruling? How in the world can they enforce it?

_{Quotes Chrome translated from this source:
http://www.bolsamania.com/declaracion-impuestos-renta/como-tributan-los-bitcoins-en-la-renta/}

Hi, do you have any idea what is this "above a threshold" percentage in Italy exactly?

Non-regulated environment sounds interesting to me in short term (i.e. year 2018)!

Completely agree!

BTM has been stabilizing nicely lately, it went through consolidating triangle starting from mid August and now starting to look bullish after horizontal.

I've made 90% of my money in crypto by estimating long term patterns, buying the lows and holding until big multipliers.

Currently in comparison BTM looks very much like FLDC used to before it's pump from under 50 sats to 700-900 peak...
... Before that FLDC was a near consta-bear market since it was introduced to Polo.

Technical indicators on BTM including the chart promise similar kind of boom potential within next couple months and if it replicates similar market behavior as so many other long term bear bottom coins, it could be re-bought close to ATH or even break it. Technical potential is definitely there.

From fundamental side you'd need wallet fixed, trollbox re-initiated and/or Bittrex or other high volume exchange adopted it...
There isn't much downside apart from sudden delisting, which I think is unlikely if Polo is going to re-activate TB at some point.
Why would they get rid of one of the must fun aspects of the Trollbox?

  What is your problem?

First you pose as a developer, trying to lie this same old FUD point across.
We *know* the problems and risks involved. You don't need to spell it out every week.

Currently there is no arbitrage. That means prices can be vastly separate. No shit.
I would certainly buy more on Nova, but last time I tried to register there the registration didn't work.
If contrary to your negative beliefs (never say never in crypto  ) it gets fixed, low liquidity Nova will bought up in a day.

The project is still developed, Poloniex could up with their things to do, of which couple low volume coins wallets is *not* a top priority.

There are risks and potentially very great reward.
If you can't tolerate the risks involved, why do *you* bash others about their own investments and risk/reward strategies?


You are only here in hopes to push the price down - That's evident from your earlier post.

So all you offer is baseless FUD of your imagined worst case scenario that relies on the *slim* chance that nobody does absolutely nothing.

Assuming there Polo will never fix the wallet, BTM will never be accepted to another big exchange, Polo never re-initiates trolllbox...
... I'd never bet for all parties doing nothing if all of their history shows contrary.

And yes, I seriously think Poloniex might as well fix the wallet at some point, I think they could re-initiate trollbox as to my view it encourages higher amounts of trade volume each day, I think the dev team of BTM will eventually get the project to other exchanges and release something new and exciting. You are foolishly betting against *all* of these scenarios of which combined *something* is very likely to happen.

So please... Go FUD somewhere else, troll and let others make investments the way they want 

 
+1

Poloniex doesn't give information of delistings to anyone, but in rare cases to the developers if they need to be involved in the process.

I haven't seen your account before in here and a developer would never go bash on traders if they were to announce a delisting.

So... Take your sorry ass FUD to some other threads fool   

There's about 3 BTC under current Poloniex price total so it's not much...
I would have gulped already if the site would have allowed me to register.

The macro market technicals to me is similar to pre-pump FLDC before it's first 700-900 sat peak from under 50 sat range.

Basically converted to fundamentals, all there needs to be is one single positive news event to cause it to rocket.

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Which is exactly why this situation is so interesting.

Poloniex has added a few coins lately so we know that they are at least close doing functions related to wallets.

Maybe after some time they'll fix those broken wallets like Steem Dollars and Bitmark, which are both suffering from the situation (among others).

From Polo point of view it makes more sense to add some new markets and only after that start fixing the old imo.
The good news for me is that they are showing signs of being alive in there and working with wallets too.

Steem Dollars for example had a pump today at Bittrex, but Polo market remained mostly unreactive and prices are quite far away as there's no way to arbitrage them together...
I felt like an ass when I bought SBD couple weeks ago from Polo realizing that I couldn't withdraw the assets to Bittrex... But on the other hand, I might actually have an advantage once the market opens and I think it's similar with BTM.

The prices are a steal now (and stable too) when it comes to scenarios such as:

BTM being accepted to Bittrex, Poloniex re-initiating Trollbox, Poloniex fixing BTM wallet, some fundamental dev news
 ... virtually any other positive news. On the other hand what kind of things are there anymore against it?

Yeah, I see every now and then someone crying how things will be never fixed, which is a futile cry and when it comes to crypto space and scenarios above - rather unrealistic imo. Just hodl or quit - And if you feel like you want to do something I'm sure the devs would welcome some forms of help or just send some messages to Bittrex and plead them to add BTM.

I tried to register to nova exchange today for this, but seems like their registration is under maintenance...
What a pity - Such cheap prices!!

"never be fixed" 
In my view, the market itself is doing rather great and there's much potential for huge uptrend.
Apart from your FUD, imagine a scenario where Polo wallet gets fixed and Bittrex adds BTM.
It would go chasing much higher prices than we've seen this year quickly.


Understandably Polo has pissed off many, but some are way too dramatic about it.

The reality is that Poloniex staff is likely drowning in a mountain of things to do.

There are other coins, like Steem Dollars, which is also stuck in the same situation.
Wallet being fixed on developers end, but Polo still not up to date with things to do.

Remember, it has taken Polo approximately 2 months to respond to simple support tickers.
Therefore I'd assume that this would be their general communications lag, including with things like restoring wallets.

If you think about it, having a few markets closed is a big problem for the projects themselves, sure.
And from the project developers and supporters point of view it's dramatic....
But I'd hardly imagine it would be high up in Poloniex' priorities task list to fix couple low volume coins withdrawal functionality comparing to other things they need to get done.

When you stop being dramatic for a while and have some perspective...
At least to me personally, the situation is way more promising with upside rather than doom and gloom you offer.

... The price is dirt cheap in my opinion.

Right now it's pretty much being ignored, being hanging low on the volume list with the exception of couple high volume days with some whale action.

Once it'll get back to being applied somewhere, it could moon hard.

I'm not saying it couldn't go back to 10k sats or slightly below, but again, if it gets adopted somewhere like Bittrex, among with masses of Polo trolls who are already familiar with ... well  

Thank you very much!