The other game that was linked in the startup application was ATITD - A Tale In The Desert... It is still running and on a new tale. However back about 2 tales ago the person Teppy sold it to then since sold it onto someone else and the link with Dragons Tale was completely dissolved from what I had heard.

Yeah I too would like to see Dragons Tale revived but I would also need to have a password reset option.

Hello devcoiners,

So what is the current state of devtome re taking on new writers?

I was recently contacted by a new member to the forum who was looking to get signed up and I noticed that I am still listed as an admin to sign on new members here https://www.devtome.com/how_to_get_setup_earning_devcoins_by_writing

I loaded up my devcoin wallet and see that I have not received any coins for over 3 years now for any admin work hence I assume I have been removed of my duties and there is no signing up of new users.

Perhaps you could update the information on devtome to reflect this and correct https://www.devtome.com/how_to_get_setup_earning_devcoins_by_writing

All the best

Fuzzybear

Just wanted to say this is a lovely setup you have running here, giving me miner envy!

Agreed, also we had a great dev that was pushed out and felt unappreciated and hence left.

Devcoin is still listed on freiexchange

https://freiexchange.com/market/DVC/BTC

anyone able to reach out to them to request them to add ltc trading pair?

So you bought dvc tokens with XLM correct?

I am failing to see that anyone other than markm is able to actually sell dvc on Stellar? please correct me if I am wrong and walk me through it otherwise we cannot be advertising Stellar as a SELLING platform for dvc.

I'm investigating setting up my own dvc denominated token but if that is the requirement to sell dvc then where is the guide for a non developer person?

@develCuy care to share any info, help or links as your asking everyone to get up to speed but provide no actual info or help to the users sharing their issues, or is this all new to you too?

Fuzzybear

Yup I agree this is way too complicated for 99% of users

@realdantreccia How did you deposit dvc into stellar? I can deposit btc etc through the trusted vendors, adding the dvc asset to your homepage can be done easily enough by linking markm's account https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/asset/DVC-GBHAQ252S4Z4AQOM4BWIRC3UHAOJIKCZQBUJGD336YH2O7W2NKRXMHA5

But there is no deposit link against markm account for dve like there is for btc, eth etc.

I get that this is trading a dvc token which represents the dvc, is the solution here to either setup my own amount of dvc tokens like markm has and see if stellar will link the two as being the same or to trade off stellar chain with markm dvc for dvc token... or am i missing something here?

Fuzzybear

Yes Ranlo that was my take from the feedback from altilly, great to see what dvc needs to do and good sign altilly is good exchange and doing due research into each coin. 

Regarding the stores accepting DVC this is specifically related to the first post on this thread with the places listed accepting dvc as payment.. they are all out of date and dead thus that looks bad and there has been no work to get dvc integrated into a multi crypto payment gateway provider. Don't forget they are reviewing all cryptocurrencies like this and payment gateways are a huge step in opening up the coin to non crypto businesses etc. For example https://b2binpay.com/en/cryptocurrencies/coins/

Agreed though one reason could be there are no stores accepting dvc because there is no exchange to buy and sell dvc. But they are taking a risk with each coin listing that it could be a scam or worse and damage the exchange itself.  I have seen it in the past where a coins foundation offer an online shop with token items (coffee mugs, hats, stickers etc all with the crypto logo on it and purchase can be done in btc and the crypto thus offering a place to spend. Is there anything stopping dvc setting up and offering such a shop? It was done in the past as an incentive to mine the coins and give you something physical for the electricity bill and speculation for the miner but has more value now as a sign of the community and support behind the coin in the eyes of exchanges and the public.

A long time ago I looked into getting logos printed on tshirts, hat, mugs, stickers, keychains etc and would not take much cash investment to produce the actual products and stockpile goods for store once you have designs all sorted and ready. (Note this was done in the PPC community and they spent far too long and much money redesigning the logo and rebranding and would not recommend) just take the current dvc logo and drop on a sticker and get 100 printed up in various sizes etc.  This also opens the question of does anyone have the dvc official logo in a high res image and various formats (white background, transparrent background, one with text devcoin, one with just logo) and these should be in one place available on devtome or devcoin.org for marketing use and such.

Fuzzybear

Yup so more feedback from them...

basically they worry the size of the community based on members in the social media groups (telegram chat, discord, twitter followers etc) are too low and there is no community here to warrent listing dvc. 

This is mostly because dvc has had devtome and here to keep track of updates etc and there has not been a big social media push to get members to join etc.

If the numbers in the social media groups is correctly reflected from the community here then there is a chance they will consider relisting dvc on altilly.

So community members please sign up, follow, join all the following dvc official channels:

Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/devcoin/
Telegram: https://t.me/Devcoins
Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheDevcoin
Discord: https://discord.io/devcoin
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Devcoin-1384277851835204/

Can we get a breakdown of who controls these also in case any updates are needed or who can make posts and are they still active here? otherwise we might have to open up another official channel or account for something.

Is there a whitepaper anywhere for dvc? @markm did u have anything?

any chance we can update the first post here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.0 as all these links are outdated and no longer active.

Fuzzybear

Got the feedback from altilly today as to why is was delisted in 2019.

Was told someone from DVC team can put in an official request for it to be listed on altilly and follow their usual listing process. (has been over a year since de-listing) thus could not strike a deal to get them to relist for free.

INFO FROM ALTILLY:

Information:
Project name: Devcoin
Ticker: DVC
Blockchain/algorithm: Own blockchain / SHA-256
Coin/token: Coin
Circulating supply: 18,073,257,500 DVC
Premine: N/A
Explorer/contract: https://node1.devcoin.cloud/
Token/ asset information: https://www.altilly.com/asset/DVC
Comment: None of the marketplaces listed in Bitcointalk thread accept DVC, they do not exist
anymore or DVC value is shown as 0$ - All markets listed currently inactive. (From 2013.
/2014.)
No marketplaces that accept DVC listed on the website.
Website: http://devcoin.org/index.html
Github (or similar): https://github.com/devcoin/core
Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740903.0
Comment: Github repositories inactive 8 months/10 months/5 years.
Bitcointalk thread seems like only active social channel, but couldn’t find recent talk
about development, only discussions related to crypto taxes and exchanges.

Evaluation:
Social: - FAILED
• Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/devcoin/ – 299 members.
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/Devtome – 1895 followers.
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Devcoin-1384277851835204/ – 60 followers.
Comment: Reddit– Inactive for a minimum of 8 months, most likely 2-3 years.
Twitter –Inactive since 25th April 2016.
Facebook – Inactive since 18th March 2014.
Whitepaper: - FAILED
• Whitepaper available: No
Team: - FAILED
• Team information available: No

Trade volume was undecided at the time of review. It was the rest of the evaluation that caused it to be delisted.


Fuzzybear

Nope I had no PM contact with them re delisting, when i asked every time i was told it was through lack of volume

Fuzzybear

So Devcoin is currently listed on FreiExchange here: https://freiexchange.com/market/DVC/BTC

and it was listed with BTC, LTC, USDT and a whole host of other coins on https://www.altilly.com/

But it was delisted from altilly with the reason that there was little to no trade volume. Should not be much work for them to add the coin back but would probably need to chat with the exchange owners to make this happen. They do now have a listing fee also, in the past I got dvc added for free as they were early starting exchange.

With this experience it is only worth an exchange listing dvc if there is any volume.. that means buying as well as selling dvc. The fact that dvc on altilly had pairing with ltc and others and that their exchange is open to trade in fractions of a satoshi against the coin means that as dvc is pegged at 0.00000001 on FRC with over 0.6 btc needed to buy up all the cheapest dvc just to start a buy side support, we need a listing like altilly and not like freiexchange.

The fact that we had the listing on altilly and lost it through lack of trading volume was and is so disappointing but in truth reflects the market for dvc, very few want to buy it and very few looking to offload any real large amounts unless the price goes up...

 Any of those mentioned exchanges that have a listing fee over 0.5btc where are you getting these funds from? and why not use that btc to rally the current price listing on freiexchange?? I have been here before, hence why I researched and found a small exchange that was starting up and got dvc listed for free on altilly after speaking with the people that run it. This is a much better way to get listed and cost nothing as they looking to try adding new coins.

Fuzzybear

I accuse you as you have broken the windows builds for user with no thought about how this will affect users and the coin.

I look back on your actions and i still stand by all my questions which you answer none.

Seriously just answer my questions and clear the concerns...
over dvc funnelled into an account only you control or not?
Binaries that are non existent for windows and mac and how progress is being made to rectify this?

why would u ask for an apology without actually answering the clear and fair questions that have been asked.  You show the signs of someone trying to divert the conversation away from the accusations by not answering them.... this is something that scammers and fraudsters do when put on the spot, so you are confirming my suspicions.

Fuzzybear

Quite simply anyone not on linux CAN'T... no windows binaries, no mac binaries..... sorry to reiterate the point but develCuy by doing this release u have effectively made dvc inaccessible for many people. This will send people away, this will make people loose interest and get frustrated as I am now with the coin.  All this also after u have funnelled all the funds from every block into The OpenSource Fund (OpenSourceFund) and pushing people away from this coin like the lead dev a while ago whilst you implemented The OpenSource Fund (OpenSourceFund).  You have pushed forward without consulting anyone else in the community about the new release and just given a deadline to upgrade clients.

If you do not find someone to produce you binaries for windows and mac I am failing to see what you are bringing other than chaos and dvc siphoning off to this long term project and I would suggest to the community to vote and have you removed from any admin roles in dvc.

What is the current block height?
What is the upgrade rate of peers on the network?
What is a working block explorer to examine the health of the network?
What was the purpose to upgrade to the new client.. what was fixed / changed? any changelog?
Where are the binaries for mac and Windows?
Who has control of the OpenSourceFund wallet that is getting all the dvc shares? 1KKZGDL56sHrZefZWw2p61x1z3qzyNAUDJ (there is over 200 million dvc in there now) that now more than my holdings and I have been here since 2012 earning little bits slowly over time...

If you can not answer these questions and provide users with all they need to upgrade then the upgrade should not have happened. If you are the sole holder to the wallet address mentioned in the last point then I feel we have been scammed as a community by develCuy and I really dont know what to do as that a lot of dvc just waiting to be dumped on the market if it ever rises to have a value.

Fuzzybear

Is it still syncing and running now after the 21st may deadline has passed?

Fuzzybear

Problem is I do not have the hardware anymore i used to build them on and you can not do it with virtual machines or server droplets (something to do with needing to do this on a non virtual machine as u create VM when building the binaries if i remember correctly).  So I would need to go out and buy a new PC to be able to do this. Also an offer of DVC bounty is not very enticing as there is no where to convert it to $$ so I could buy the hardware.  A BTC bounty would go a long way here.

Fuzzybear

That works for linux as generally u can do everything u need through the terminal. Have you ever built a cryptowallet on windows?? it really is not a simple process and similar on mac.  http://web.archive.org/web/20130821030414/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149479.0

Really do need to offer all the platform binaries otherwise it is restricting the entry level to just get a wallet and people will not bother or be turned away from dvc, or worse yet someone who has dvc can no longer access if old versions of dvc are not going to work / sync

I used to make builds for windows and mac as part of the linux build as you can cross compile but it has been many years since I did this but details are here https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/build-windows.md

I would STRONGLY recommend that these binaries are released as well otherwise it will have a negative impact on the dvc network.

Fuzzybear

Are you able to offer windows and mac binaries?

Fuzzybear

Hey Nova,

Sorry to hear you are wanting t resign from devcoin project. Sounds like issues with steem and hive. You have brought a lot to devcoin over the years and I for one greatly appreciate all you have done for the community and coin, thank you

Fuzzybear

Just catching up on a bit of backlog and seen the thread and discussion going on here.

I think the problem was 50 shares was being sent to the last historic share count of devtome where the user had not written any new content. That obviously needed to stop. Perhaps as there was disagreement for these funds to be sent to a user or group with no outline clearly explaining what the funds would be used for maybe burning the devcoins would have been a better option this round? As seems this has caused ctyx to feel the need to leave the dve community, this saddens after all the hard work I have seen ctyx produce recently for dvc.  

I should add for clarity that as like bitcoin, devcoin is open source, has no "official" leader or owner, rather we are a collective of people coming together to try create and share something we believe in enough to invest our time and effort into it. That said... the lead dev usually is the one driving the particular cryptocurrency as they are the one to implement the code changes and requests etc. If there is no lead dev then how is the project to develop and progress at all? I say this as ctyx is listed as the only Devcoin Developer on https://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_human_resources

Fuzzybear