Hello everybody. I think that the price of the coin will gradually increase. Not all at once. Only recently there was an exchange of old coins for new ones. Good luck to all.
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If it will run all smoothly after and yet there is no further information when it will going to happen. I am aggree to RimmerAce that the old pac coin is more worth than in this new swap coin. The amount equivalent that i bought was dump negatively and now im just waiting if theres is something good that will going to occur in the future.

The keyword is theoretically. My $Pac is worth 10 times less than my old Pac before the swap

This is on the Masternode Redemption page of the blog, posted Feb 4th.

https://imgur.com/ucSNk3u

This is on the General Public Redemption page of the blog, posted March 2nd.

https://imgur.com/2HpSsty

I don't personally have the addresss for the consolidation wallets.

We can't sell the coins, since there are no markets for it anymore. We are holding on to all the old PAC and will be holding a community vote to see what will happen to them.

We already have the new $PAC coins, that's how we redeem the old to new for the investors...so trading the old PAC to ourselves for new $PAC, doesn't make any sense.

You came into the Discord and immediately started off with saying that the PAC team sucks posted the wall of text trying to "prove" we are bad. Had you simply asked questions about your concerns, instead of an all out attack of accusations, you wouldn't have been banned.

really?
really?

Can this be sited?  Link?

also unclear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TogMDaLFsfM


What if you stake PAC, are they still redeemable?

Really foobar.

Can I stake until May31?

{check the terms used, stake not masternood}

The following PACcoin addreses should be used based on CST:

    Sat: Aw9yEjiCUXtoJzav9vCiFTm98UBk5GombU
    Sun: AxqfDhAkhbna8Ft9WmqE2QwVqQUEfnNRnh
    Mon: AgV85LiTHnLCa7xdYHNxMwyRCAPPNoK6td
    Tue:  B3zGATXPtNRbHCeAmhH1sFTb4f2RQJW6nS
    Wed: Azhg43v7TAbhfd3MBfsZaSfWfCEqo2hrcw
    Thu:  ArUtzuRrCvkBQcK6KZrBsejt74EJjj9ZJC
    Fri: B3UDXtQkmwfFy2Vx2mpAPasovgG395omhR


That was posted on the 4th of March.

So yes very unclear, today is the Saturday after the last listed address.

And I see no means of informing which is my $PAC address to receive.

That was a short lived glory.

PAC is reflecting Rank #1251 on CMC now.

Regardless, I don't really see any new SHA256d coin overtaking any of the top 5.

Maybe an equihash based one, but only because is zk SNARKS. Or maybe RVN with it's X16R

Goodluck tho.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1khl3YOAzJMWIhtW0QSjpVikMiJb4gMWObe7XQbksPZA/edit
https://blog.paccoin.net/paccoin-pac-public-redemption-now-officially-open/

all the redemption instructions are vague and unclear.

there needs be a simple redemption method

send to addresses (with dates not days)
form (nothing is said on how to enter $PAC address to receive)

and it should be automatic

novaexchange has the tools to handle this and i will help pay the fee.

get-r-done

pm me

kel-alt - RE 'quote' - maybe they are like me and cannot figure out how to post without quoting!
I can not figure out where the new topic button is even after reading 'help'. 92 posts now and
none I have been able to start. Please explain how and maybe there will be less quote clutter!

I have about 3 million coins in my wallet, staked them for a month and got 480k. If i was allowed to move my 50 million coins from cryptopia and stake them, at least i could have increased my number of coins.

Wow! It is rising at about 1 satoshi per 1-2 minutes, it might take less than 24 hours to reach above 500 satoshi.

Hi DEV)) do you deed ukrainian translation?

I've seen your posts and I've tried to avoid responding but now you're calling people stupid who are trying to reason with you. If you'd like to have a discussion, fine, but if you're just here to engage in name calling and attempting to validate your own twisted opinion of things, then I feel I need to respond. As always, let me be clear: I wasn't on the $PAC team when all this happened but the market dynamics are universal.

There's no offense intended. but your statements of fraud are 100% inaccurate and only lead me to believe you aren't well versed in financial markets. Financial markets are often out of sync, even on the same exchanges. There's an entire industry called arbitrage ( https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/arbitrage.asp ) and beyond that high-frequency trading ( https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/09/high-frequency-trading.asp ) that attempts to make gains by balancing those differences between exchanges. This is common on all markets and is part of how they actually work, the exchanges don't balance things, the market does.

I saw the spike in PAC and watched the market that day, I saw plenty of exchanges on other markets being moved over to Cryptopia for exactly that reason. People were arbitraging the exchanges. That's how efficient markets ( https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/032615/what-are-differences-between-weak-strong-and-semistrong-versions-efficient-market-hypothesis.asp ) work: when there's a price gap market makers move in and balance.

In regards to PAC, as plenty of people have stated, but for some reason plenty of people can't grasp: Cryptopia closed all of their LTC and DOGE pairs due to technical reasons. They didn't close just PAC, they closed all of them. This resulted in the lowest price for purchase on Cryptopia being 1 sat. The reason it was 1 sat is because Bitcoin only supports 8 points of precision ( https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/31933/why-is-bitcoin-defined-as-having-8-decimal-places ). You can't break a bitcoin down into a unit smaller than a single satoshi; instead, you have to use a coin of lower value and break that into smaller amounts.

Due to the markets closing, people made inefficient trades on Crytpoia (see above). They were perfectly valid trades, they were simply inefficient. I wasn't involved in $PAC at all at the time but it was easy enough to identify what the issue was. Coinmarketcap clearly showed that exchanges out of sync and Cryptopia was transparent about their closing of the LTC and DOGE pairs.

To sum up: markets are inefficient by nature. Two exchanges are inefficient, pairs between exchanges are inefficient. For example, right now there are price differences (on the same exchanges!) between trading pairs even for $PAC. That's true for BTC, LTC, ETH, etc. Pick any market that's traded in more than one place and there's a price difference. Differences in prices are not fraud, they're simply fact.

So, please read what is above, educate yourself further on markets, and then if you feel the need to comment, please do and if I can provide further information I'll do my best to do so -- as I always have. But simply claiming things are fraud and scams is a waste of everyone's time. Especially when the fraud you're alleging is a universal feature of all markets that anyone with a cursory understanding of market dynamics comprehends.

best,
break.

thanks for that, worked perfectly. Now, can I just go ahead and put the older Pac wallets in the trash?

"Important note – please be very careful trading PAC against Bitcoin or BTC or coins with a higher valuation – please.  It is very sad how many stories I have gotten from people about this."

quote from the BLOG on Jan 2nd.
https://blog.paccoin.net/chapter-2-breaking-though/

any Mac users on here? I downloaded the new wallet but can't open it because it's for High Sierra onwards and I can't upgrade to that (i'm on Sierra) as i'd lose a bunch of apps I need for work.. I've tried messaging the developers but haven't got anything back.