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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 14/08/2014, 14:24:51 UTC
+1
Dev should close down this thread and leave cloaktalk.org link as a last post
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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 23/07/2014, 15:19:42 UTC
this is the cheapest CLOAK I got.

Date: 06/04/2014 07:25:37 AM   
Buy   
price :0.00012500   
amount: 806.80450873   
filled: 806.80450873   
avg price: 0.00012117   
BTC Total: 0.09800902

This was on Bittrex.

Damn that was absolutely rock bottom price, great buy!

since everyone's boasting their best trade, here is mine  Smiley

06/12/2014 05:57:01 PM   Buy   0.00015000      10044.62177889     0.00014999   1.51045999
06/12/2014 05:55:45 PM   Buy   0.00015000      714.50899418         0.00014999   0.10744428
06/12/2014 05:54:58 PM   Buy   0.00015002      6000.00000000         0.00015002   0.90237030

my overall average price is 0.00018  Cool
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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 18/07/2014, 11:10:33 UTC
On a side note.
is it possible to adjust POS block time on next fork?
Jackpotcoin has insanely fast confirmation time, usually less than 1 minute for 3 confirms.
it would be nice if Cloak can achieve such speed, especially with Onemarket on the horizon.
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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 18/07/2014, 11:06:17 UTC
OneMarket = OneMarket

but: consider using a top level hierarchy filter eg Light, Dark. To change filter to Dark (or All) display a highly generic disclaimer / notice / eula that some content may offend / or be against the law in your jurisdiction and to enter at your own risk & responsibility bla bla etc etc.

Q1. If I am a dutch person and I wish to sell marijuana seeds. Do I go to the top level or bottom level and why? Seeds are illegal in some parts of the world and legal in other parts. I am duch and it's legal for me to sell them.

Q2. I am from pakistan and I wish to buy antibiotics for my sheep. It is legal in my country but illegal in most other places. Top level or bottom level?

Q3. I have asthma and I travel to the US. I need a inhalator but my medical prescription is not valid in the US unless I pay couple hundret dollars for a US based doctor to review my medical history. Do I go to top level or bottom level?

Many other examples are possible and the same logic applies for fees. We need to understand that this is a world market and it is impossible to only have legal stuff for sale. Some items will be illegal in some places or will require special authorization to sell or buy. Lab grade solvents can and are used for lsd/dmt manufacturing but are also used for a lot of legal stuff.

I am all up for ANYTHING GOES, EQUAL FEES for everybody, ONE(1) MARKET for everything, OPTIONAL ONEJURY. I call this the AEOO system Smiley

If the product is in grey area, I would think that OneJury can decide but if you don't wanna deal with it you can just list/seek on dark tab
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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 18/07/2014, 09:53:49 UTC
:: One Market ::

I just wanted to point out some hidden benefits to OneJury.

In the past on craigslist there were lots of fake posts, like a post selling a TV and then you would get a hooker instead.

With OneJury this would be solved, and so in that regard makes the buyers experience much nicer going through the market.

OneJury does more then just stop illegal morally wrong postings is the point here, it helps stop spam too.

This means a copycat coin without OneJury would be victim to a lot of fake posts going on in there and possibly give a horrible user experience.

So we could keep OneJury but do private listings thus making a compromise possibly? Private listings would have same cost as doing any other listing + average OneJury Fee maybe?

How about keeping the Onejury for regular stuff and have Dark listing option that bypass the Onejury and seller pays HIGH fees (with mandatory trustless escrow) and have to click disclaimer that all illegal activity in dark market is the seller's legal obligation not the developer?


The high fees don't resolve the issue of illegal items being openly present and accessible in the main public market. Thus private listings without ability to freely advertise them within the GUI, keeping the market "clean" from that stuff for the average user. Also as the safety measure for the devs, securing them from any legal issues. No one is openly (nor devs willingly allow to) advertising the "dark" stuff, and no random person actually have idea about some specific items being present on the market.



I thought about it little more, since last suggestion was posted without much thought.

I guess what I'm suggesting is this,

there would be 2 markets where user have to choose before entering the market.

1. One market - with One jury and other goodies devs talked about in white paper.
2. Cloaked market
- In order to access this market place, users (seller and buyers) must read and click legal disclaimer.
- where anything goes sorta place where users use it at their risk.
- no onejury is needed here since its for illegal stuff.
- high fees are just a way to reward POS stakers at the seller expense, but not really important.

I'm not a lawyer nor I claim to have any idea about legal issues here, anyone know if this has legal implication for the developers just because they are providing a market place where anything can be sold at users discretion?

If I had to choose, I would opt for anything goes approach. It fit better with anon concept I think.

P.S why open source? is it really necessary? I thoght PoSA was gonna be kept closed to prevent copy cats? why not keep them all closed?
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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 18/07/2014, 08:58:05 UTC
:: One Market ::

I just wanted to point out some hidden benefits to OneJury.

In the past on craigslist there were lots of fake posts, like a post selling a TV and then you would get a hooker instead.

With OneJury this would be solved, and so in that regard makes the buyers experience much nicer going through the market.

OneJury does more then just stop illegal morally wrong postings is the point here, it helps stop spam too.

This means a copycat coin without OneJury would be victim to a lot of fake posts going on in there and possibly give a horrible user experience.

So we could keep OneJury but do private listings thus making a compromise possibly? Private listings would have same cost as doing any other listing + average OneJury Fee maybe?

How about keeping the Onejury for regular stuff and have Dark listing option that bypass the Onejury and seller pays HIGH fees (with mandatory trustless escrow) and have to click disclaimer that all illegal activity in dark market is the seller's legal obligation not the developer?
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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 15/07/2014, 07:16:58 UTC
seems a bit unfair to me..  I have about 3000 Cloak that was staking. True about the orphaned blocks, but I heard that other people with halve of my balance are receiving almost 1 Cloak a day.
How is this possible?

I thought that the stake was 6% per year?
thats about 0.5 Cloak per day right? 

So why does somebody with 1500 Cloak receive 1 Cloak per day..

Not trying to fud. Maybe I am doing something wrong?


you might wanna consolidate your coins into one block.
coin weight does matter when it comes to preventing orphan blocks.
if you go to control, you'll notice you have bunch of small fragments of coins.
click them all and send it to your 2nd or 3rd address until you have 1 block with your entire amount.
when it stakes few hours later, that 1 block will be split into 2 blocks, and 4 and 8 and on.
consolidate once in awhile to make your coin weight heavier.
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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 12/07/2014, 04:02:12 UTC
fud troopers are out working.
you know what it means, its time to accumulate.
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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 11/07/2014, 20:34:27 UTC
CloakTalk forum needs to have the header changed looks exactly like ClookTalk

Yup. If you know which font the cloak logo uses I can change it. Still waiting on that info.

It just looks like Roboto Bold.  If you need it, I can put it on drop box or something.



Ahhh...sorry...you're going for the one at wallet startup?  Or the one on the website?

this font

the font is Classic Robot

http://www.ffonts.net/Classic-Robot.font

Looks like perfect match, good job dude
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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 11/07/2014, 20:26:08 UTC
The font is ArchiType Expanded Bold

edit: Actually I'm wrong, the A is not a perfect match.


Getting there


Looks like the artist might have altered the font little bit.
here are the closest matches


Aban Bold
from Naghi Naghachian Aban

Bank Gothic Medium
from Tilde Bank Gothic

Bank Gothic Medium
from Bitstream Bank Gothic



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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 10/07/2014, 22:30:51 UTC
i pulled a full retard and sold my 15000 cloaks back when they were at their  all time low. fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck





I bought your cloaks.  Thank you!  Grin
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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 09/07/2014, 23:27:44 UTC
is this coin still trying to use exchnages to make sended coins anonimouse ?

if so witch xchange would do that ( sins thats a place the goverment can crack down on ) ia confiscate / sue

if not how is the anonimouse solved then ?


exchanges can't be sued or crack down on. its not against the law to be anonymous when it comes to cryptos. Everyone has a right to privacy.


o i agree on this totaly thats not the problem
the big problem is Facilitating Money Laundering
sins a central point is making it anonimouse ( and helping in the act of money loundry ) make it harder to find iligal drugs money
any exchange offering ( or working whit ) the act of ( Money Laundering ) would be acting illigal
sins this was set up as using xchanges ( those are only a couple of central points )

witch exchange wants to bare that risk ( if the plan is still the same ) ?

or are u working on a decentralized exchange

this is also a problem whit DRK and its centralized node,s but sins many peeps host them its harder to crack down on them  ( p.s not a drk scam fan ! )

SO no one can explain this to me ?

No one needs to explain it, because it's all in the white paper of PoSA.

read it
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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | PoSA White Paper Released CS 2.0
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 09/07/2014, 21:54:04 UTC
I just sold all cloak...
Because i fell that the team cloak is just 6 dev and do only dev, the coin will die slowly, whatever the dev do if people dont care or event dont know about what are u doing.


Hey mimini0147, did you panic buy yet? lol

Dumpers be warned, selling now is taking on huge risk of losing potentially massive profits
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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 08/07/2014, 20:32:00 UTC

this coin has no future, i already sold all my cloakcoin at 73K...


I just sold all cloak...
Because i fell that the team cloak is just 6 dev and do only dev, the coin will die slowly, whatever the dev do if people dont care or event dont know about what are u doing.

Here we go again,
selling high and fudding to buy in at a lower price.
its pretty pathetic and selfish
remember there are risk on both sides of the trade.
selling high has its own risk, risk of losing out on potential profit if you time it wrong.
I bet he is pretty nervous right now about missing out on epic ride to the moon.
I hope the price goes up and you panic buy at 100k+
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Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS | ICO AVAILABLE ON BITTREX NOW!
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 08/07/2014, 18:04:20 UTC
honestly, no one is suspecting that maybe the dev is the one who's buying his own ICO?
why shouldn't he? buying from himself makes perfect sense, after all, he is gonna get the BTC back later.
its just a way to get free coins for himself, and get the ball rolling for others to buy.
makes perfect sense for me. surprised how so many people can be fooled so easily.



This could also be the same with each ipo coin?, u never won any from any ipo?: Im sorry for that.
I expect to win some with this one

yeah, I never won from any IPO because I never invested in any IPO. that also means I never lost money on IPO scams. better safe than sorry when it comes to IPOs.
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Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS | ICO AVAILABLE ON BITTREX NOW!
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 08/07/2014, 17:59:04 UTC
honestly, no one is suspecting that maybe the dev is the one who's buying his own ICO?
why shouldn't he? buying from himself makes perfect sense, after all, he is gonna get the BTC back later.
its just a way to get free coins for himself, and get the ball rolling for others to buy.
makes perfect sense for me. surprised how so many people can be fooled so easily.

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Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS | Join NOW! | Supported by BITTREX
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 07/07/2014, 19:17:28 UTC
because the trust about this coin is made on Bittrex name , not an anon Dev..

now they start allowing scam Ipo coin, tomorrow they will just use the hack lost coin argument...

if iceberg not a scam, then Bittrexs should express why they are supporting it.


All Bittrex is doing is holding the IPO so people do not have to send their BTC to anon dev BTC address.  This way it assures that people will get the coins they paid for.  Now.....after the dev gets the BTC from the IPO, that's when the fun starts and will determine if this coin will float or be a scam.
how can devs control if price goes up or down?

They don't.  With an IPO it always runs the risk of being a scam.  People are paying a dev for future development in a large lump sum of BTC.  Let's say this IPO raises...50 BTC, and for whatever reason instead of putting that $32,500 into development of projects the dev just closes up shop.  Now you have a coin with no future and with no dev and you expect the price of the coin to stay the same?  It will get mined and dumped and the original investors get robbed.  It has happened literally 100's of times in the last 6 months alone.

Now I am not saying that will happen here.  The dev could have big plans and this coin could take off with support and IPO money.  But, that's why it's always a risk to buy into an IPO.

Finally someone who talks sense.. Why don't people invest once its listed in an exchange and trades stable for a few days.
Want big returns or just greed? This IPO in particular is a total rip off and people don't realize it.. Once the mining is over, all IPO investors are likely to loose their money.. This is happening for pretty much all IPO coins these days and I don't see how this one is going to be any different..

Thank you.  I see too many people compare coin IPO's to company stock IPO's before they go public.  There is a huge difference here.....a company going public already has a business, support.....A PRODUCT.  A coin has an algorithm and the dev's hopes and dreams of what his vision of the future of the coin.  It's awesome to generate hype and promise the world to investors, but too many people put blind faith and just throw their money away.  I would be willing to risk that ~<2% of all coins with an IPO have been beneficial to investors.....and it's usually the original ones that do, like NXT.

IcebergCoin on the surface is a 20% pre-mined IPO, asking 8000 satoshis per coin for those wishing to get in it.  The IPO looking to raise 100 BTC ($62,600 in the dev's pocket) before POW even starts.  The rest of the 5M coins will be mined within 7 days, and if the coin was to keep that 8000 satoshis per coin as value, after 12 days (5 days IPO, 7 days mining) this coin would have a market value of $313,000.  Quite the value for a coin with nothing ground breaking and it's future developments claim to be - Anon-feature (not original), VoIP feature (will it be better than a free service like Skype?), P2P feature , Black Blockchain, and Democracy Blockchain.  The Nist5 feature is beneficial....but PoW ends after 7 days, so how exactly is that VERY beneficial at all?

Those of you planning on buying into the IPO....can I ask you, what is the reason you think it's worth what the IPO price over established coins out there that are going for A LOT on exchanges?  Before you call me a "troll" or a "fudder", throw me a reason because I'm just generally curious.

I'll give you one possible reason.

I'm thinking about buying small amount. Just thinking, not sure yet.
my reason is this.
If I was the dev, I would probably spend my own btc (as much as I can afford) to buy into ICO, Because, even if I pay for it, the BTC that I pay will come back to me. So, I'm basically getting lots of coins for free, that is bottom line.

with all the free ICO, and bunch of free BTC from other people 'investment' I can then use that BTC to pump the price, and dump the free coins and bought coins at reasonable time and make lots of money.

the reason I'm thinking about buying is, I see pretty decent pump coming, and If I can make profit, I'm willing to risk small amount to ride the wave.

No fud, just my reasoning.
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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 07/07/2014, 16:15:48 UTC
How come this time the resolving the fork is taking such long time?
whats the situation now? could you elaborate on whats going on?
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Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS | Join NOW! | Supported by BITTREX
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 07/07/2014, 15:40:32 UTC
It is very strange to see 19% IPO is getting so much support and popularity
Pump N Dump or not, dev have pulled off something that is very hard to do.
Coin without any innovation or any plans laid out getting so much attention..
I remember some devs getting shitload of crap for having 2-5% premine and yet here we have 19% IPO and everyone is cheering hooray we're all gonna get rich..
very strange.. I can't fully understand how this crypto market works sometimes...
but then again, this coin will probably have at least one decent pump, so I'm keeping my eye on it for the time being.

good luck!!
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Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
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Givatoshi_Moremoto
on 07/07/2014, 15:32:58 UTC
What is the interest when staking?


I think it's 6% with a minimum of 6 hours. (it's written in OP)  Wink
sorry I'm a retard when it comes to abbreviations op means what ?


Optimus prime! duh