Because the bitcoin exchanges are all scam artists!
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Even ones which legally registered and comply with government regulation?
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I refer you to one of my other posts and that is about coinbase charging over 3% = 50p a deal

Been down this road/ discusion before with gold silver ETFs. That you can not actully book an appointment with the vault to cash your ar of gold and collect it or have it delivered

Again; Do you own a share of this and dose your ETF company own bitcoin that is fractionlized for you on your behalf? I mean did they initally go out and buy bitcoin them selfs?

Is that a it like the DOE straw man thing?


Both now and in the future. This investment purchase don't make you a real BTC owner, or holder.
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But dose the ETF hold the bitcoin (and hence the keys for it)?

I remember this disscusion on gold and silver ETFs a few times, and it was "can you take out or have delivered the gold and silver from the vault". I guess hear it would be can I have the keys for my shares in btc

I cant remember; but I googled them and that rates where all something like 1-4% an exchange

Because the bitcoin exchanges are all scam artists!

Do you think the stock broker owns any bit coin though? meaning they own the bitcoin and you dont they just owe it to you like banks and fiat currency. Or is it just a futures market thing where there is no actual Bit Coin in there?

So on an investment side of things (and not day to day spending)

I see hat the LSE now sell BTC on there exchange in the following tickers

Code   Instrument name   Price
ABTC   21SHARES BITCOIN ETP   28.37 GBP
AETH   21SHARES ETHEREUM STAKING ETP   34.24 GBP
BTCU   21SHARES BITCOIN ETP   36.05 USD
CBTC   21SHARES BITCOIN CORE ETP   20.06 GBP

Has anyone ever done it like this and used a stock exchange to buy there from

How safe is it?
How dose the price differ from BTC its self?
What commision do they charge?
And when you purchase this way, do you actully own BTC or is it a futures market?

Thanks

And what about if you can no longer log in case they have locked you out

So a google search of "coinbase contact us" brings up support@coinbase.com

But when I try and send them an email i reiece the following message

Address not found
Your message wasn't delivered to support@coinbase.com because the address couldn't be found, or is unable to receive mail.

I read that link before thanks! and all of them where just a rip off! think i asked that question on this forum before about a cost effective exchange. well looks like there are non i guess, so guess the whole bit coin is a rip off so best forget about it all really

Unless I can buy it on the stock market from a lagit time served and regulated body that is

Having watched this video
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JQ3vO4upK6CX
At 20 second Mick Savel says that the Trump administration would buy up 20/25% of the Bit coin network which will then demonetized the value of BRICcoin, hence as BRICcoing is back by gold the value of gold will collapse meaning Trump will be able to wipe off the US debit.

Not so long ago my bank manager sat me down in his office and said "Dont put all your eggs in one basket" meaning dont just spend all your stocks on gold. But with a great reset pending after the plandemic I could not think of any thing ells to buy at the time (and boy did I make the right decision!)

But now I think well maybe now is the time to diversify that port folio after the message from Greg Reese Reports (reporter for Alex Jones Info Wars). So can anyone advice on a a cheap exchange site that will trade me my GBP in to BC? After all when there are online share dealing accounts like Trading212 giving free trades away on the London Stock Exchange and no subscription costs to have an account with them, then surly there must be something siular for BC (given the fact its only electrical computer running costs)

An interesting but short read

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YguVue0lgxM

It would appear that the tecnocratic hoops needed to become of member of the club apear to be to much for me. And Given the fact that the prices to buy and sell, (well lets be frank shall we a bunch of 0s and 1s) are astronomical! Compared to what I pay to have gold and silver stored in a secured vault. It would apppear that everyone selling it that I have come across so far are just rip off mechints!

But it was more of a trade thing to avoid CBDCs then an investment. However there are other routes for this such as companies that offer gold and silver bank account and countorys that will not be taking part in a post CBDC world that I would like to open a bank account with. All of which would offer a debit visa card with your account, so you can participate in this digital money world

But when the $ fails at some point in the near furture. and again in a post CBDC world. I see bit coin becoming a popular choise for those who want to go under the radar.

https://ibb.co/16tGkfc
And you can even contract the with out being a member of there club!

Think I am going to leave this for now and stick to the trushworthyness of gold and silver

Thanks for the help

Can you recommend any other platforms rather then coinbase (that work in the UK)

Just had an email come though now

Your payment methods were removed to keep you safe
We automatically removed all payment methods that were previously added to your account, such as bank accounts and cards.

We sometimes do this whenever you recover your account, just in case someone other than you accessed your account.

When you're ready, you can add your payment methods back to your account.

Now looks like they have removed my Visa Card from there records! (given there extorsonate fees cant be a bad thing i guess)

Well though I would try, But to buy £1 of BitCoin though coinbase they said i would get 0.0000065 BTC and at the bottom in small print "CoinBase fee £0.50"

Then to buy £1000 with them they said i would get 0.01237997, but this time in small print they state "incl.spread +£38.37 fee"

Dot know about you but to me looks like coinbase are ripping people off!!!!

I tried that first link you gave thanks! and entered my location in, but the fees for all of the outlets showed the same!

Fees:
Buy: N/A




I guess that is the fees that they rip you off on for the though of being out of the didital system. (and we dont even know what the fees are yet!)