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Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin
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GratefulCoin
on 14/01/2015, 18:28:49 UTC
What is Bitcoin going to go to as far as value goes?  I see it dropped below 200 now and it is getting scary!

I’ve predicted it would drop to between 30-50 this year.  It all seems in kind of a freefall right now.  The important thing to understand is that we’ve already seen the highs for this year.  The year will end significantly lower than it started.
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Re: What's your Bitcoin price predictions for 2015?
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GratefulCoin
on 14/01/2015, 07:28:18 UTC
I said about a month ago that it would drop to 250 during this time.  I'm saying that within a month it will be 175.  It might be less than a month.  By the end of the year I think it will be 30-50.

Its not going to be 30-50. Once it is close to $100 there will be too many buyers. The marketcap is not going to go below $1 billion.

It will go below a hundred.  It very well could go below 100 soon.  Things are much worse than even I expected.  I believed Bitcoin was going to crash pretty hard this month.  I wasn't expecting it to be as bad as it is.
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What's your Bitcoin price predictions for 2015?
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GratefulCoin
on 14/01/2015, 03:50:49 UTC
I said about a month ago that it would drop to 250 during this time.  I'm saying that within a month it will be 175.  It might be less than a month.  By the end of the year I think it will be 30-50.
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Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin
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GratefulCoin
on 13/01/2015, 19:44:56 UTC

The bottom will be when we reach 30-50.  That is a sustainable price for Bitcoin.

I’m ready to make my prediction for the next month.  The price of Bitcoin will drop to 175 within roughly 30 days.

What happens after that, does it crash completely or stable off then slowly increase as time goes on?

This is actually a very good question.  It made me think for a bit.  We will know when the price of Bitcoin becomes stable.  When there is very little fluctuation in price.  That is when we know we’ve hit the bottom.  I believe this will happen at around 30-50.  I think an argument could be made that it will happen once the price is around 1-10.

This is not the time to invest in Bitcoin.  Some people maybe able to make money off the swings in price.  But, that’s too risky for most people.  I would advise people to continue to use Bitcoin.  Just don’t hold onto them.  The best thing for the future of Bitcoin is to spend them right away.
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Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin
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GratefulCoin
on 13/01/2015, 06:27:10 UTC
As we can clearly see it has not been a good investment this year.  Rich people threw a lot of money at them as some sort of get even richer scheme.

2014 a Bad year for BTC investment for what specific reason? The 2014 Average is 3x higher than the 2013 average. The market price right now as it is dropping is still almost 2x above the 2013 average.
You are kidding right? All that matters to anyone that gets paid in bitcoin is the value of the bitcoin at the time they were paid and the value of bitcoin now (or when they exchanged it for fiat or goods if they have already done so). Someone that is trying to make a living is not going to care about any kind of average

The price of Bitcoin will drop to 30-50 USD within the next year.  Bitcoin is about to take another serious nose dive.

Would you care to make a wager on that?  Smiley
I would match any amount of Coins you put up that you're wrong, we can use a trusted escrow if you want to hold  it lol

I have no Bitcoins to wager.  If I did, I would be cashing out right about now.  I think we are going to be seeing it in the 250 range maybe within 30 days.

I was right.  It did happen a little faster than I thought.  I’m still new to Bitcoin.  In fact, I still don’t own any.  I’ve been watching the price of Bitcoin very closely for a few months.  I feel that I can accurately predict what the price of Bitcoin will be.  I don’t have any software or anything like that.  I don’t even read much about Bitcoin.  I watch the price flucuations and make my predictions based on them.

I’m not sure about my prediction in a year.  The problem is… so much can change between now and then.  I do think Bitcoin needs to be priced between 30-50 for it to be healthy.

I’m not ready to say where I think Bitcoin will be in the next month.  I certainly wouldn’t be holding onto Bitcoins as an investment.  I’d only have some to buy stuff with them.  

Don't think it was that hard to foretell.  The trend has been consistently downwards over majority of the past year.  No giant positive news and several top exchanges get hacked or close up shop.  The question is...where is the bottom, and who is willing to try and catch a falling sword?

Reminds me all too much of silver.  If bitcoin breaks 200 resistance, there could be a huge free fall ahead in a long bear market.

The bottom will be when we reach 30-50.  That is a sustainable price for Bitcoin.

I’m ready to make my prediction for the next month.  The price of Bitcoin will drop to 175 within roughly 30 days.
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Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin
by
GratefulCoin
on 13/01/2015, 03:27:36 UTC
As we can clearly see it has not been a good investment this year.  Rich people threw a lot of money at them as some sort of get even richer scheme.

2014 a Bad year for BTC investment for what specific reason? The 2014 Average is 3x higher than the 2013 average. The market price right now as it is dropping is still almost 2x above the 2013 average.
You are kidding right? All that matters to anyone that gets paid in bitcoin is the value of the bitcoin at the time they were paid and the value of bitcoin now (or when they exchanged it for fiat or goods if they have already done so). Someone that is trying to make a living is not going to care about any kind of average

The price of Bitcoin will drop to 30-50 USD within the next year.  Bitcoin is about to take another serious nose dive.

Would you care to make a wager on that?  Smiley
I would match any amount of Coins you put up that you're wrong, we can use a trusted escrow if you want to hold  it lol

I have no Bitcoins to wager.  If I did, I would be cashing out right about now.  I think we are going to be seeing it in the 250 range maybe within 30 days.

I was right.  It did happen a little faster than I thought.  I’m still new to Bitcoin.  In fact, I still don’t own any.  I’ve been watching the price of Bitcoin very closely for a few months.  I feel that I can accurately predict what the price of Bitcoin will be.  I don’t have any software or anything like that.  I don’t even read much about Bitcoin.  I watch the price flucuations and make my predictions based on them.

I’m not sure about my prediction in a year.  The problem is… so much can change between now and then.  I do think Bitcoin needs to be priced between 30-50 for it to be healthy.

I’m not ready to say where I think Bitcoin will be in the next month.  I certainly wouldn’t be holding onto Bitcoins as an investment.  I’d only have some to buy stuff with them. 
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Re: How would you do it?
by
GratefulCoin
on 22/12/2014, 01:10:22 UTC
There are many ways to earn 10 BTC in 2 month. There is only one of them.

1. Create 250 accounts on bitcointalk.
2. Enroll them in some signature campaign.
Right now there are 3 campaigns that pay for newbie at least 0.00004 BTC per post, 100 posts/week maximum.
So every account can earn 0.016 BTC in month, that mean all of them will earn 4 BTC in the first month.
After 1 month they'll become Junior Members and will earn at least 0.00006 BTC per post. So you'll have 6 BTC more in the second month.
All you have to do is write 3750 posts daily. Don't forget they should be constructive!

If you are searching something much easier I'm afraid you will find nothing.
Earning with BTC = patience + work + hope. Or just blind luck Smiley

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All you have to do is write 3750 posts daily. Don't forget they should be constructive!

Only that?, lol.

24*60=1440

One day has 1440 minutes...

1440/3760=0.384...

That mean you need to make one post every 0.384 seconds to get 3750 post in 24 hours. No eat, no sleep... hahaha.

But at last is a way to do it.


Well it should be 0.384 minutes instead, so the job should now be 60 times easier.  Grin

+1

I fail in the units... at last still a lot of work, lol, i dont see it like a true option to make 10 bitcoins.

It is hard only first two months. when you become member with payrate 15k satoshi/post, you'll earn easy 5 btc/month posting only 1111 posts daily.
That means 1 lazy post/min and you'll have 329 min of free time. i'd advise you to spend 300 min for sleeping, 25 min for eating and 4 min for sex.
Trust me, many people in the world live much worse than that.

A whole 4 minutes for sex?  What am I supposed to do for the other 3 minutes?
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Re: Adult and mainstream text writing plus SEO
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GratefulCoin
on 20/12/2014, 19:24:25 UTC
I am willing to hire you as an outside / contracted SEO worker...

However the payment will be through an escrow and no automation / spam-based work.. furthermore, all your work HAS to be independently verified through 2 different parties... If you can agree upon these terms, then we can definitely work something out.

There is an easy way to solve the problem.  You don't pay until you make sure everything is okay.  Once you do, then you pay.  We can work something out.

Still, I don't think there is a problem if there is an escrow?
There are many forum members here offering the service.

I don't see why it would be needed.  It's just a chance for someone to rip you off.
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Re: Adult and mainstream text writing plus SEO
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GratefulCoin
on 20/12/2014, 06:23:33 UTC
I am willing to hire you as an outside / contracted SEO worker...

However the payment will be through an escrow and no automation / spam-based work.. furthermore, all your work HAS to be independently verified through 2 different parties... If you can agree upon these terms, then we can definitely work something out.

There is an easy way to solve the problem.  You don't pay until you make sure everything is okay.  Once you do, then you pay.  We can work something out.
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Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin
by
GratefulCoin
on 18/12/2014, 07:28:24 UTC
As we can clearly see it has not been a good investment this year.  Rich people threw a lot of money at them as some sort of get even richer scheme.

2014 a Bad year for BTC investment for what specific reason? The 2014 Average is 3x higher than the 2013 average. The market price right now as it is dropping is still almost 2x above the 2013 average.
You are kidding right? All that matters to anyone that gets paid in bitcoin is the value of the bitcoin at the time they were paid and the value of bitcoin now (or when they exchanged it for fiat or goods if they have already done so). Someone that is trying to make a living is not going to care about any kind of average

The price of Bitcoin will drop to 30-50 USD within the next year.  Bitcoin is about to take another serious nose dive.

Would you care to make a wager on that?  Smiley
I would match any amount of Coins you put up that you're wrong, we can use a trusted escrow if you want to hold  it lol

I have no Bitcoins to wager.  If I did, I would be cashing out right about now.  I think we are going to be seeing it in the 250 range maybe within 30 days.
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Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin
by
GratefulCoin
on 18/12/2014, 07:17:26 UTC
As we can clearly see it has not been a good investment this year.  Rich people threw a lot of money at them as some sort of get even richer scheme.

2014 a Bad year for BTC investment for what specific reason? The 2014 Average is 3x higher than the 2013 average. The market price right now as it is dropping is still almost 2x above the 2013 average.
You are kidding right? All that matters to anyone that gets paid in bitcoin is the value of the bitcoin at the time they were paid and the value of bitcoin now (or when they exchanged it for fiat or goods if they have already done so). Someone that is trying to make a living is not going to care about any kind of average

The price of Bitcoin will drop to 30-50 USD within the next year.  Bitcoin is about to take another serious nose dive.
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Re: How would you do it?
by
GratefulCoin
on 18/12/2014, 07:05:16 UTC
Thanks everyone for your replies.  I was hopeful that work and reinvestment in cloud mining might be something that would pull it off.  But, I see now that cloud mining isn't the way to go.  I wish you all success in your Bitcoin endeavors!
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Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin
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GratefulCoin
on 17/12/2014, 23:00:09 UTC
What business do you have that you pay employees in Bitcoins?  Surely you must have a site.

I own many sites and pay multiple employees in bitcoin, some directly and some as independent contractors as you are already familiar with from how you were introduced to BTC.

Just throw out there one site.  The one you're the most proud of.  I'm curious as to what you're doing.
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Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin
by
GratefulCoin
on 17/12/2014, 22:50:39 UTC
As we can clearly see it has not been a good investment this year.  Rich people threw a lot of money at them as some sort of get even richer scheme.

2014 a Bad year for BTC investment for what specific reason? The 2014 Average is 3x higher than the 2013 average. The market price right now as it is dropping is still almost 2x above the 2013 average.

Or are you sampling those that are impatient investors(possibly yourself) who want BTC to be some get rich scheme within 6 months?

 Only because the next generation of Bitcoin buyer will be people who actually want to use them as currency.  When people actually use Bitcoin instead of hoarding them... that's when the tide will change.

False Dichotomy. I horde(Used to be called save and be praised), spend(and buy more when I do) , pay employees, and accept payments in BTC.


There are plenty of criticisms of BTC I could mention and have in my posts, but your sweeping generalizations are false and misguided. Be more specific.

Yes, BTC was been a horrible investment for those looking to invest and cashout within the last 6 month window(The market will punish these bad investors that don't follow the rule of buy low take profits high and never sell at a loss).... welcome to the early days of BTC , it is indeed volatile .... expect more of it in the next 8 years.


What business do you have that you pay employees in Bitcoins?  Surely you must have a site.
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Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin
by
GratefulCoin
on 17/12/2014, 18:36:47 UTC
I would never put my own money into Bitcoin.  The only way I would ever own Bitcoin is by earning them.  The risk is far too high to invest money into something that's going down the way Bitcoin is.

We see the stunt you are pulling here on this new account. Nice try. If you aren't interested in bitcoin as a speculative investment , fine, go off and build your affiliate site instead of disparaging bitcoin and spreading FUD.

If your true intentions are real, why have you not asked one question or made any posts in any of the pertinent sections of this forum that you claim to be interested in ... Development & Technical Discussion,Technical Support and Project Development?

This is why we are pissed, because you are clearly misrepresenting your intentions and spreading FUD.

It seems you are just some blackhat SEO and porn copyeditor coming to our community looking for a handout and getting bitter when you realize that you have to actually contribute and work to make a living and we won't just shower you with donations. The reason that you won't invest in BTC is because you have nothing to invest, you are begging for handouts and work. The sooner you stop complaining and actually get to work the sooner you will turn your life around.

I am not trying to be an asshole but merely giving some tough advice that you need to reflect upon.

The level of anger here is fantastic.  I've never understood why message boards attract angry people.  That's the one consistent thing about message boards.  Regardless of the topic, angry people flock to them.

I wouldn't invest anything right now in Bitcoin.  I would invest in businesses that people spend Bitcoin at.  I think Bitcoin has still quite a ways to go down.  At some point people will see they are a good deal.  Once they do they will invest in Bitcoin and some of those people will buy stuff.  That is my interest.

I wouldn't say that I was disparaging Bitcoin.  I was disparaging those who invested in Bitcoins themselves.  As we can clearly see it has not been a good investment this year.  Rich people threw a lot of money at them as some sort of get even richer scheme.  As the market hemorrhages these people, it's actually a good thing.  Only because the next generation of Bitcoin buyer will be people who actually want to use them as currency.  When people actually use Bitcoin instead of hoarding them... that's when the tide will change.
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Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin
by
GratefulCoin
on 17/12/2014, 06:41:46 UTC
I find the hostility here simply amazing.  It truly defies description.  I somewhat looked into Bitcoin over the years.  The difference between now and then is that I now take it seriously.  I see that  this is far more than just a novelty.  I'm not sure that Bitcoin is the future of cryptocurrency.  But, I am sure there is a future for cryptocurrency.

My interest in Bitcoin isn't investing in it.  I wouldn't invest a single cent in it at this stage.  I think we probably pretty far from the bottom of the current slide.  My interest in Bitcoin is possibly to build an affiliate site.  A site where causal Bitcoin users look to do their shopping.  The people who see this as a novelty or just a bit more than that.  The people who are truly into the world of Bitcoin already know all the shopping opportunities out there.  Think portal site showing people where they can spend their Bitcoins.

I would never put my own money into Bitcoin.  The only way I would ever own Bitcoin is by earning them.  The risk is far too high to invest money into something that's going down the way Bitcoin is.

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Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin
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GratefulCoin
on 16/12/2014, 19:06:35 UTC
Perhaps the OP needs to spend more time at Bitcoin meetups and tradeshows instead of forums. The bitcoin ecosystem is exploding with innovation, startups, and venture capital and many businesses are hiring in this space if you are a developer.

What you're saying here very well may be true.  Behind the scenes maybe things are moving at a pace that I can't see from the internet.  From the things I see, that doesn't seem to be the case.  I'm surprised by how little development there is online.  I know there are big sites now accepting Bitcoin as a form of payment.  But, I'm surprised there isn't more online shopping focusing only on Bitcoin customers.  A lot of the ones that do, seem like scams.

When I started to get interested in Bitcoin I expected everything to be popping.  There would be cottage industries popping up all over to cater to Bitcoin customers.  I get the feeling that's really not the case.  I could be 100% wrong.  I admit that.  But, there isn't the free flow of money like there was in the past on the internet.  There seems to be something that's holding people back.  There doesn't seem to be enough commerce in the world of Bitcoin.  There needs to be more buying and selling.  You can't just have people investing in the currency and doing nothing with it.  If people were spending them, there would be more sites focusing only on Bitcoin customers.

I want people to understand I'm not saying anything bad about Bitcoin.  The idea of it is fantastic.  Anyone that has ever done business online knows just how valuable something like this has the potential to be.  But, it seems quite a ways off from what it could potentially be.
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Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin
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GratefulCoin
on 16/12/2014, 07:17:30 UTC
OP, then why are r coming here? It is for the bitcoin supporters. Don't you see the increasing number of merchants and users is involving bitcoin space?

That's a great question.  I think I came here feeling like this was the new gold rush.  Like those people that go to North Dakota to make insane amounts of money in the oil boom economy.  I thought the world of Bitcoin was somewhat similar.  Maybe the problem is less about Bitcoin and more about my perception.
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Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin
by
GratefulCoin
on 16/12/2014, 07:06:25 UTC
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I never thought I'd come here and get rich.

You post like you do.

I thought I'd come here and learn more about cryptocurrency. 

So, what changed?

There is very little work to be had in the world of Bitcoin.  Sure, there are some very specialized fields where people are making money.  The average guy, not so much.

What makes you say that?

The disparity between the rich and poor with Bitcoin is bar far greater than any fiat in existence.

Maybe, I dont know, do you have any stats to back your claim or do you just assume stuff?

It will not survive if this remains true.

Bitcoin is not the greate equalizier you think it is. Its a new form of money. Social imbalance is a social problem and should not be fixed by technical means, IMHO.



I came here as a hopeful nerd that was interested in Bitcoin.  I read about it over the past few years like most people.  I saw it as somewhat of a novelty.  Then I figured, I would look further into it.  I thought it would be an exciting place with a lot of activity.  Maybe somewhat similar to what a lot of people experienced with eCommerce in the late 90's early 2000's.  This doesn't feel anything like that at all.  Not even in the slightest.

Maybe I'm not viewing it as what it really is.  I thought of it as a new currency backed by people that really want to change the world as we know it.  There is far less change involved than what I was expecting.  I'm not sure what the motivation is for the people currently dealing with Bitcoin.  My guess is that it's mainly rich people or people with income sources that don't care if they lose it.  I don't see the average person putting their retirement savings in Bitcoin.
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Re: The sad truth about Bitcoin
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GratefulCoin
on 16/12/2014, 06:43:58 UTC
I've come to realize that Bitcoin is either for the rich or for poor people picking up the smallest of crumbs.  There seems to be very few people in the middle.  If this doesn't change... Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general is doomed.

You came here thinking that it would be easy to get rich [1] and now that you understand you would have to work for it you blame bitcoin. If you have problems its noone elses fault, get your act together and pan them out.


[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=894940.0

I never thought I'd come here and get rich.  I thought I'd come here and learn more about cryptocurrency.  There is very little work to be had in the world of Bitcoin.  Sure, there are some very specialized fields where people are making money.  The average guy, not so much.  The disparity between the rich and poor with Bitcoin is by far greater than any fiat currency in existence.  It will not survive if this remains true.