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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
Gumpty and tr8kr sent you both 4 new messages.
I got nothing from you and 2 messages from tr8kr
Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
I haven't yet received any messages from anyone. Feel free to spam messages at me.
So not sure if the issue lies with your wallet sending or mine receiving.
XP7AaWJHeoUe2GjwRot2sN14nQDDkccWRH / fQdwq8Fs8pybdNrGN1QRPFHdhMNDNHkNHdc45Zz5115Z
Update: message received from tr8kr
So not sure if the issue lies with your wallet sending or mine receiving.
XP7AaWJHeoUe2GjwRot2sN14nQDDkccWRH / fQdwq8Fs8pybdNrGN1QRPFHdhMNDNHkNHdc45Zz5115Z
Update: message received from tr8kr
Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
Just received an XChat message from an unidentified user at XP7AaWJHeoUe2GjwRot2sN14nQDDkccWRH, "Howdy". Client crashed again.
Is there anything the community can do to help the team with development of XChat?
Is there anything the community can do to help the team with development of XChat?
Howdy
That was me. I am using version v0.9.2.49.08i.2.XCurrency-REV2 on Windows 7.
Very cool. Windows XChat client sent to Mac XChat! Things are progressing!
I JUST sent you a message back from the message thread you sent me.
Also added you to a group chat with another user outside of my network who was able to successfully send me a message and sent a message to that group chat.
My Mac app seems to be crashing when receiving a message if you have been replying to me.
Yup. That appears to be normal behavior for the Mac client. I just had another crash/message...
The message was a second from Gumpty in our already created thread saying, "I haven't got your message".
Gumpty, the message I sent says, "Howdy Back!" and on my interface shows it was sent before your second message.
I haven't got any messages from you but have you sent you 4. It seems message number 2 crashed your wallet. Since every message crashes your wallet I will stop now...
Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
Just received an XChat message from an unidentified user at XP7AaWJHeoUe2GjwRot2sN14nQDDkccWRH, "Howdy". Client crashed again.
Is there anything the community can do to help the team with development of XChat?
Is there anything the community can do to help the team with development of XChat?
Howdy
That was me. I am using version v0.9.2.49.08i.2.XCurrency-REV2 on Windows 7.
Very cool. Windows XChat client sent to Mac XChat! Things are progressing!
I JUST sent you a message back from the message thread you sent me.
Also added you to a group chat with another user outside of my network who was able to successfully send me a message and sent a message to that group chat.
I'm not receiving anything back from you.
Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
Just received an XChat message from an unidentified user at XP7AaWJHeoUe2GjwRot2sN14nQDDkccWRH, "Howdy". Client crashed again.
Is there anything the community can do to help the team with development of XChat?
Is there anything the community can do to help the team with development of XChat?
Howdy
That was me. I am using version v0.9.2.49.08i.2.XCurrency-REV2 on Windows 7.
If theres any more info I can provide that would help do let me know
Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
Just wondering how the interactions between different coin nodes will work...
e.g
If someone with a UtilityCoin wallet would like to send their UTIL coins via the XC XMixer service how does that work? What journey do their coins take? Has this stuff been worked out yet or is it still being thought about? Would that user have to use a decentralized exchange to convert their UTIL to XC, then send those coins, then convert back?
e.g
If someone with a UtilityCoin wallet would like to send their UTIL coins via the XC XMixer service how does that work? What journey do their coins take? Has this stuff been worked out yet or is it still being thought about? Would that user have to use a decentralized exchange to convert their UTIL to XC, then send those coins, then convert back?
Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
How are the collective services of the blocknet going to be made accessible to the average user?
Theoretically...
If I have a XC in my wallet but I would like to use the VPN service of utilitycoin how might I go about doing that?
Will this require an automatic conversion of my XC to UTIL in order for the UTIL wallets to collect their fee?
Will the available blocknet services be visible from within any of the XBridge enabled wallets via some kind of dynamic UI?
If a new coin joins the blocknet while my wallet is running, will those services be made immediately available?
Is this still in a concept stage? Has technical design begun? Or actual code development?
Keep up the good work.
Theoretically...
If I have a XC in my wallet but I would like to use the VPN service of utilitycoin how might I go about doing that?
Will this require an automatic conversion of my XC to UTIL in order for the UTIL wallets to collect their fee?
Will the available blocknet services be visible from within any of the XBridge enabled wallets via some kind of dynamic UI?
If a new coin joins the blocknet while my wallet is running, will those services be made immediately available?
Is this still in a concept stage? Has technical design begun? Or actual code development?
Keep up the good work.
Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
Ok wait a minute...
On the OP it says every XC client is a node (giving the impression that EVERY client forwards these fragments). Then on the FAQ on your site it says that an XNode is what processes the transactions and you need 550XC to run one (giving me the impression that only XNodes that people setup forward the fragments). Then, on your site there's news of "XMixer"...
Ok so, when you send an anon transaction what happens? How many fragments does it split into (or does that just depend on the size)? Who is involved in forwarding these fragments, all online clients? Just the XNodes? The XMixers? Through how many clients/nodes/mixers does each fragment pass through before it gets to its destination? So many questions. I could go on.
At first glance I was lead into thinking that each transaction is split in to fragments of random amounts, which are each passed through a random amount of online wallets (normal users, anyone and everyone on the network) before each fragment reaches its destination (the person receiving the funds) at different times. Which would be really awesome. But after digging deeper it seems only XNodes handle this? Where does the mixer come in?
I'm not sure if I'm being mislead or if I'm just an idiot who doesn't understand, would love an explanation of how this actually works. I like to invest in innovative technology not hype and PR. Sorry if I'm coming across as an asshole
. This seems interesting but I either don't have a clue how it works, or the explanations are misleading.
Cheers!
EDIT: For now I'm going to assume "XNodes" don't exist and have been replaced by "XMixers", and that fragments are forwarded through ALL online wallets, and the reason for these "XMixers" is because a fragment can't pass through a wallet if the wallet doesn't have at least as many coins to cover the fragment? Is this correct? In that case do all wallet clients (which I'm assuming fragments are forwarded through) also mix their funds with the fragments?
If not, why in that case does a wallet have to cover a fragment for it to pass through (I'm assuming it does have to, otherwise why the mixers?) ARGH these are all blind assumptions!! Hahaha
Someone help me out?
On the OP it says every XC client is a node (giving the impression that EVERY client forwards these fragments). Then on the FAQ on your site it says that an XNode is what processes the transactions and you need 550XC to run one (giving me the impression that only XNodes that people setup forward the fragments). Then, on your site there's news of "XMixer"...
Ok so, when you send an anon transaction what happens? How many fragments does it split into (or does that just depend on the size)? Who is involved in forwarding these fragments, all online clients? Just the XNodes? The XMixers? Through how many clients/nodes/mixers does each fragment pass through before it gets to its destination? So many questions. I could go on.
At first glance I was lead into thinking that each transaction is split in to fragments of random amounts, which are each passed through a random amount of online wallets (normal users, anyone and everyone on the network) before each fragment reaches its destination (the person receiving the funds) at different times. Which would be really awesome. But after digging deeper it seems only XNodes handle this? Where does the mixer come in?
I'm not sure if I'm being mislead or if I'm just an idiot who doesn't understand, would love an explanation of how this actually works. I like to invest in innovative technology not hype and PR. Sorry if I'm coming across as an asshole
. This seems interesting but I either don't have a clue how it works, or the explanations are misleading.Cheers!
EDIT: For now I'm going to assume "XNodes" don't exist and have been replaced by "XMixers", and that fragments are forwarded through ALL online wallets, and the reason for these "XMixers" is because a fragment can't pass through a wallet if the wallet doesn't have at least as many coins to cover the fragment? Is this correct? In that case do all wallet clients (which I'm assuming fragments are forwarded through) also mix their funds with the fragments?
If not, why in that case does a wallet have to cover a fragment for it to pass through (I'm assuming it does have to, otherwise why the mixers?) ARGH these are all blind assumptions!! Hahaha
Someone help me out?
website is still not updated compleately
everything is explained here in Expanding XC's capacity:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=630547.msg8806414#msg8806414
Yeah I read that, and it all started to make sense until hoooold on! "There might not be enough nodes making private payments at a given time, causing transactions to wait or be canceled." - I was under the impression fragments can be forwarded through ANY online wallet as long as the wallet balance covers the balance of the fragment... That sentence just threw me right off!
You have two sending options, Private and open. Open is just like every other coin.
A Private XC transaction is handled uniquely to other coins protected by being opensource on a delayed timeline.
In short plain English here is my interpretation of how XC handles anon transactions:
Person A wants to send 50 XC to Person B anonymously.
Leaving Person A's wallet the transaction passes other wallets and gets scrambled with other transactions. Visually think about the transaction getting fragmented at every wallet, the fragments then hit other wallets where they are fragmented again. The fragments are being mixed with other transactions fragments. The fragments knows where they are going, so they stop at the wallet B, but because there are fragments going all the time it is hard to tell the pieces from the whole.
Every wallet is called a node, there is no lower limits on a node.
With the above picture you can tell that if only one transaction is being fragmented at a given time you could datamine where it came from and where it was going. This is where XCMixers comes in. The mixers are at all time loaded with 1000 XC and these coins are used to cause additional "explotions" ensuring that the fragments are always concealed. The number has to be big to ensure that large transactions can be concealed.
Anyway this is how I understand XC, but I'm sure the team can describe it better than I, I hope it helps until they get online.
Yeah, if it worked like this that would be even more awesome than what I originally assumed... But you see if it worked how you said then surely there'd be no reason for the mixers? Unless the mixers are PURELY there to cover BIG ass transactions so they can then send tons of tiny fragments small enough for the nodes (any online wallet client???) to handle...A Private XC transaction is handled uniquely to other coins protected by being opensource on a delayed timeline.
In short plain English here is my interpretation of how XC handles anon transactions:
Person A wants to send 50 XC to Person B anonymously.
Leaving Person A's wallet the transaction passes other wallets and gets scrambled with other transactions. Visually think about the transaction getting fragmented at every wallet, the fragments then hit other wallets where they are fragmented again. The fragments are being mixed with other transactions fragments. The fragments knows where they are going, so they stop at the wallet B, but because there are fragments going all the time it is hard to tell the pieces from the whole.
Every wallet is called a node, there is no lower limits on a node.
With the above picture you can tell that if only one transaction is being fragmented at a given time you could datamine where it came from and where it was going. This is where XCMixers comes in. The mixers are at all time loaded with 1000 XC and these coins are used to cause additional "explotions" ensuring that the fragments are always concealed. The number has to be big to ensure that large transactions can be concealed.
Anyway this is how I understand XC, but I'm sure the team can describe it better than I, I hope it helps until they get online.
But then again... Read that sentence I quoted from that news post... That makes it sound like only nodes making private payments at a given time are used to forward transactions
Fact of the matter is, the explanations we've been given can be interpreted however the hell we like, I think a dev needs to come n put an end to this dilemma.
Hey Tingcoin
Thanks for wrestling with the details. I appreciate your giving XC this kind of critical attention.
Apologies for the confusion. Ignore the website - it's currently out of date. We've just released this software and some stuff is still playing catch-up.
For now, the press release on the Xmixer contains correct information: http://[Suspicious link removed]/xmixerintro
If, after reading it, you're still confused as to the role of Xmixers vs regular nodes, post us your thoughts here. I'd be more than happy to talk it through.
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Instead, every XCurrency node whether an Xmixer or a regular app participates equally in private transactions and trustlessly forwards fragments. In other words, all XC nodes mix, but only Xmixers participate automatically in private transactions even when their users are not transacting.
Hello
Been following XC since halfway through the first thread (so quite a while) and would like to add a few questions of my own to really drill into the details.
Does this mean that an XNode, which is not an XMixer, will only participate in mixing when the user of the wallet manually initiates a private transaction by sending some coins? It therefore does not interfere with the coins staking in the wallet until the user manually initiates a new private transaction?
In this case will the XNode be acting as a full XMixer, forwarding coins for other user's transactions, as well as it's own private transaction? If I have an XNode with a balance of 100XC and I send you 5XC do I still have 95XC capable of staking, or will I need to wait for the coin age of my whole balance to reset again? Perhaps this depends on how my coins are arranged into addresses within my wallet?
Apologies for the barrage of questions, just curious as to the details of how the terms "forward" and "mix" apply to "XNodes" and "XMixers" and under which circumstances there may be a difference and what that difference may be.