If people vote for refund I have to first be given 1.3 for tor that I was told I could get and got or just 1.1 BTC as was agreed with CA .

For those of you who would want to continue I can surely do better things with this coin with just the remaining IPO and donations in HMY. I am in contact with the several devs about blockchain/coin anonymity. This is just a sidenote to those asking what is to be done. I am sure we can do more as a community if things get just slightly on track and everyone starts helping just a little.

Regarding this: "Fernand0x is not at fault here guys. He was paid to make the coin"   Fernandox was presented as a cofounder not as a contracted dev so he should infact refund the 4 BTC he got for doing nothing and in addition making people wait for more than a month giving them empty promises.


Also Crypto advisor please respond to the following:  "the ipo sold 800,000 coins at 6000 satoshis per coin = 48 BTC  not 40. Where is the remaining 8?"

You only gave the account for 40 BTC so where is the remaining 8?

You are getting too far ahead. First lets clear this situation and secure the funds then decide as a community what to do. Either refund proportionally to the amount of coins available or continue development or whatever is decided.
We first have to get what is left straight and where the rest went?

"The yin/yang investors didn't get ''free'' coins , CA bought the y/y from ppl with his own btc , and then traded them for the ICO and then sent the hmy to ppl...
He did that to help the y/y investors as HMY , before it was released , or that there would be an ICO planed and such , was supposed to be a continuation of y/y."

He did because in the end he stole the money back (10BTC) from HMY ICO so HMY got nothing so the coins were given for free.

ok.

Now please explain this "10 from myself to Y/Y investors then back into the ICO" .

10 BTC from you ==>> ying yang investors ==>> IPO ==>> Then back to you

So in the end you gave yingyang investors free coins and you did not give anyone anything as what you gave you stole back from the IPO and again as it stands you lied and stole from the community. You said no premine but actually this makes it a premine + ipo lol never seen before in crypto.

What I want to know is how do you justify this? How do you justify your innocence and concealing this fucked up shit?

Fernandox is to pay too because he is cofounder and he shut up too, concealed all this and participated in this crime. So the least he could do is refund the money he got for development.

Fernandox we want your input on the situation too...


Also the ipo sold 800,000 coins at 6000 satoshis per coin = 48 BTC  not 40. Where is the remaining 8?

Again we said this quite a few times.

How did 20 or so BTC become 5.5 .

We need the details of how it was spent...

Why is there an option to have BTC sent to only ICO members? What about the people who bought later and waited for more than a month on empty promises and reassurances?
Why only ICO investors get the money?
For that option everyone that owns harmony should get some equally.
Who knows if they sold?
How will you verify that they have npt and that they actually bough from the ipo and how much?

Before posting that as an option you have to answer those questions.


How much are you refunding?

Why only ICO investors get the money?
For that option everyone that owns harmony should get some equally.
Who knows if they sold?
How will you verify that they have npt and that they actually bough from the ipo and how much?

Before posting that as an option you have to answer those questions.

Just to prove that I am not fooling and that what I promised is here... I have lost 1.3 BTC to get this done and if the coin is to die I should get my money back because I was given the green light (for 1.1 BTC) and did not come short of anything on my part.

Here are the new wallets with tor. (We currently do not have any tor nodes as CA would not fund and the community did not respond, but you guys can create one on your local machine and test it out):


OSX: https://mega.co.nz/#!nI4ARZqA!px1pB8qAzyN7FzHyOEsdAKu5Xmy_xp50edJsysvnY78

WINDOWS: https://mega.co.nz/#!mZBTCaBJ!ozBi3sBlhY0qT6-OS4ghK14oVM1sA6B4dLXFwzrp5xI


How to use TOR? (installation of TOR requirement)

Option 1: use the "-onlynet=Tor" and "-tor=IP:PORT" argument when you execute your daemon

Option 2:

Put this in your config file: onlynet=tor tor=127.0.0.1:9050 addnode=any running TOR-node

HOW to setup a TOR-node:

If you have your TOR-proxy already running at localhost:9050 simply run: ./harmonycoind -proxy=127.0.0.1:9050 -externalip=YOUR_URL.onion -listen

replace the onion address ("YOUR_URL.onion") with your own address.

NOTICE: add the following lines to your torrc file: (Unix/LINUX) HiddenServiceDir /Library/Tor/var/lib/tor/hidden_service/ HiddenServicePort 80 127.0.0.1:8080

On Windows: HiddenServiceDir C:\Users\username\Documents\tor\hidden_service HiddenServicePort 80 127.0.0.1:8080

Now save the torrc and restart your tor. Tor will now create the HiddenServiceDir that you specified above and add two files to them.

"private_key" & "hostname"

"hostname" = your onion-address.

NEVER PUBLISH YOUR PRIVATE KEY!!! (if you do everybody will be able to impersonate your hidden service.

Let's just hope that whoever comes ontop in the votes, get's exactly what is promised. Although i doubt it...

These are exactly my thoughts.

I personally do not accept the solution that CA proposed for obvious and blatant reasons i've mentioned in the above post.

To answer your question, yes there are trustworthy people in crypto but CryptoAdvisor isn't one of them. People like this are liable in law, and things could get really serious in real life in justice. Because running away with people's ico money is a huge offence. I will leave the community to decide, although the current messages do not look like things look good for CA.

I do not want to receive from you anything, good luck with whatever you choose to do.

However, one advice i can give you is to receive back the hmy when you pay people back. And if i was you i would wait a few days to see what the whole community will decide and what the majority will choose.

First we need to see who are the people who sent you the messages with proof of screenshots that they were the actual people who initially invested in the ipo. Because you can easily invent a story and tell us many people have contacted me etc. Secondly, how about all the investors that invested later on because initially they thought there was an ipo that would help the coin grow. Thirdly, does that mean that if all the ico buyers dumped on later investors, that you would keep the money in your pocket and steal us all because we believed and you said that there was ipo money?

If i was in your place, i wouldn't do what you are doing now. But it's up to you and it will be the community that will decide and believe me given the messages i'm receiving this could go very far.

Can you continue trusting and working with someone who has done all this? I personally can't and if you have any sense of logic and analysis read attentively my previous posts and you will realise what i am saying. If you don't trust me, i can post proof of EVERYTHING. But since CA know what i'm saying is right he didn't neglect anything, so no need for proof now.

We agreed on the prices since we said we would both search and adopt the cheapest we found. But even when you didn't find cheaper you did not want to pay.

I am ready to continue working but only if you send the remaining ipo to someone trustworthy, because after all that you've done to the community and to myself i don't trust you and your promises anymore. I do not want to rely on someone that is clearly not trustworthy in my eyes and in the eyes of many other people.

This coin has not yet failed. It will only fail if you don't give the ipo money to its community to deal with accordingly. There is no logic as to why you should hold the ipo money anymore or decide anything regarding the ipo.

You are really insane. The ico isn't yours. Do you understand that? It doesn't belong to you. Why would you decide what would be done with it if you no longer want to lead this coin and if you want to take a break? Why would anyone even trust you to keep the ico anymore when you already made us all regret trusting you.

You said you want to pay 0.4 btc for a website, the lowest we found was 0.55 for a shitty website and i found 0.65 for a pro/high quality website. The tor anon was mentioned in my previous message and you only wanted to pay 1.1 btc even if told you i would pay for it and unless it was working 100% don't pay me back. Yes you contacted triplef and i'm sure he wouldn't have come if this fiasco wasn't happening to appease things as we've been trying to contact him for about 10 days. I don't understand you say 'i wanted to fund it', how is you that wants to fund it? Godammit we only want you to use the ipo money which ISN'T yours but the community's. So its the community that is funding everything NOT YOU. You should do what the community wants with the community's money, not what you want or what you are ready to pay for as that isn't your money.

The reason why i did not want to continue as the lead member of this coin is very accurately because the promises and terms i based on my acceptance of leading this coin have been altered by you by changing them and rendering my plans impossible (and this has been explained in detail in the previous post). It's very precisely telling someone i got 16btc available and you can base your vision on that amount, and then later telling them i only have 1.5btc: 1.1 for tor and 0.4 for website! Isn't this insane? What we agreed on and this again i have proof of is that unless you could find cheaper, we would hire the person i found for best value; something you did not respect all along. However and again i have proof after less than an hour or so and many hours before you posted anything here i told you i will try one last time and try to get the community to decide for what is right or not to help appease the disagreements between us. Even despite you altering your promises and agreements before i took the lead role and on which i based my decision, i still wanted to give it one last try as i promised the community i would do everything possible and in my capacity to take this coin to new heights.

I will not reply to your queries anymore unless you say something new because what you are doing is being redundant and just repeating the same things again and again. I will continue to work with the community to decide what is right to be done to get back our ipo money and what is the right way to go ahead with.

The reason i said this is because everything was really on schedule on my side with tor anon and tor nodes and the logo contest and the team members. On the other hand CA was telling me triplef was very close to finishing the multipool and fernand0x would solve the irc problem. For the website i had found the right people and told CA about it but he didn't want to pay the minimum price despite not finding cheaper.

Before i accepted to lead harmony you told me you still had 16 btc to use for the development of hmy. Now you say that you lied to me.

A condition of me accepting to lead harmony, was that if i found someone to do a job (whether be it a website, tor anon etc) for the coin, we would hire him unless you could find cheaper. Afterwards you claim that you would only fund what YOU deem right while you are actually using the IPO collected from the community meaning funds that DO NOT belong to you but to the community. Meaning funds that should be paid back to the community if you were to leave (which is the case now).

You should have collected 48btc from the ipo. Let's assume that the (crappy; since it doesn't show that you have bought any ipo) proof you have provided is right and that you bought 19btc. So that's 29 btc left and about 500,000 hmy (500k because 19 btc at ipo price would give that). You said you paid fernand0x 3 btc (i have proof of this and if needed i will post screenshots) and triplef less than 2 btc (i have proof of this too) and even let's accept ying yang old users about 10btc (we need proof of this although it probably doesn't exist as you previously said you paid it from your OWN btc), so that's 10 btc left and 500k hmy and triplef implementing the pool and continuing to work with us. Where are these funds? In you first post you said that there are ipo funds. So prove to us how much is left and give the community the rest. That is the only solution if you want to live peacefully and have no regrets.

There's no doubt that what you have done is completely unethical especially locking the thread and stopping me from accessing the accounts right after i said i would take these issues for the community to decide. Now it's like you want, but i assure you it would be in your best interest to pay back the community what you owe it and this after you have proven everything.

Not only was locking me out a wrong move, but especially bringing me down after 2 weeks of intensive work to try and promote and lead harmony. The fact that you lied to me and that you changed your promises and agreements as you wished was a main factor too. But i decided to continue cause i believe this coin could become amongst the best with all that i had ready for it. However, when i felt that i could no longer move forward because of your non-respected agreements and promises as well as your lies, i had to bring this back to the community to decide.

"By the way, sidiberd wasn't an ICO investor like he acts, he messaged me back when the coin was about 1000 to let me know he was thinking about investing in harmony. This doesn't matter, but should be known in case he is trying  to dump. " it is true that i am not an ICO investor but I am an investor. When I talked to these thugs after the ICO, meaning when they knew how much they received, they assured me that it is a long term plan and everything is ongoing. Why tell me this when you knew the money was not enough? To dump on me?

By the way everyone, all that we had set to achieve and that i was responsible for (tor anon, tor anon node, team members and logo contest) has been set up appropriately and is on schedule and would have been delivered o time. However, everything CA was responsible for, fernand0x (irc problem) and triplef (multipool) was for diversified reasons not possible to be achieved on schedule. Even when CA told me about the issues i told him it's not a problem i can get people that can do the work otherwise find someone else yourself. But he disagreed and said that he didn't want to. Even the website, i contaced 4 different people and the price was nowhere close to what he wanted to offer (as though it was his money) and when i told him so he claimed that he didn't find someone cheaper but that he still believes the price shouldn't be more than 0.4btc. Even the tor anon i got a bargain price for 1.3btc, for a new technology and one that was still new, but he refused to pay that price even if i told him that he wouldn't pay anything unless it was delivered and worked 100% (i paid for it and took the risk just to do what i could to help the hmy).

Anyway i've received several messages. And this issue will be treated accordingly. If you are claiming your health is being affected and all that whatnot, what would the community and the investors say when they have had to deal with all these shady issues you have made them fall in and all these shit promises you made? It's your choice now, do whatever you like but believe me this time you will assume the consequences.

You have skipped many points. Answer them.... Most importantly the exact details of how much and to whom was it given? We need full transparency.
Then give the community what is left and we will decide what is to be done with it.



You should answer all our questions and prove you have good intentions else tell us you screwed us and that we should simply fuck off and have a happy rest of our lifes

All i see is lies. First you say "I did not pay 10btc of the ICO to yin yang people, I paid them 10btc of my money." and now you say that you paid them 10BTC from ipo. By what right did you do that? you never said anything about this whole yingyang situation when the coin started.

You paid 4 BTC to fernandox?  for what? He did nothing. The promised wallets are not working and the pos as I explained previously is insecure.  HMY is a clone from boost coin and he gets 4 BTC for that and when I say I need to get 1.3 BTC to implement TOR you disagree... So fernandow has to refund that money because he did no work, gave people false hope and told them to wait, and when he came after all the waiting nothing happened ( you wasted our time and money).

Also the multipool money has to be refunded until it is working.

"The simple truth is that this coin was built to help yin/yang investors and try to recoup their losses in that coin."
This was never stated...

"By the way, sidiberd wasn't an ICO investor like he acts, he messaged me back when the coin was about 1000 to let me know he was thinking about investing in harmony. This doesn't matter, but should be known in case he is trying  to dump. "
I am not an ICO investor but I am an investor. When I talked to these thugs after the ICO, meaning when they knew how much they received, they assured me that it is a long term plan and everything is ongoing. Why tell me this when you knew the money was not enough? To dump on me?


"Sidiberd is gonna call me a liar, but it is justified. I originally told him we had 16 real btc available, but I only said this because if we were trying to revive the coin, I didn't want it to seem like we had no funds backing us. " You also said you only paid 3 btc to fernandox  and more lies....  This is stinky as shit!

The way you are talking is very casual. If your intentions are good you have to respond to all our queries and give us the exact details of how much you had and how it was spent. No more about this much... or atleast.... and give us the details of how the btc was distributed and to whom. As someone has said before people make mistakes but the shady shit you did, the way you covered it up, and when I came and had stuff to do but all you kept doing was shutting me down..., along of how you are not even trying to fix it gives me doubt on your intentions.  

You took a responsibility and now are running away from it along with people's money and you keep saying this is my last post. You have to answer people.

What do you mean you are going to pay only 1.1 btc?

Where is the rest of the ipo money?

What about the website, the logo contest, the blockchain anon?

What have you done with the rest of people's funds?

We need a detailed explanantion of where the 40 BTC went?  So 20 you claim was yours and even though this sort of insider shit is just wrong we can forget it. But now where the fuck is the other 20 btc = 12000 dollars.


These questions have to be answered because as it stands you have stolen people's money and are still trying to justify it. If you are going to retire atleast refund the people. Give bittrex what is left of the ipo and have them refund people with coins depending on how many coins there are or give people who want to work the money. You cannot just keep the bitcoins... wtf

First you say we are just waiting for fernandox and then you say no the money is not enough then now you just runaway... If it was not enough then halt the project on its start and not keep people waiting to then after a month say we are going to do jackshit

This is Sidiberd now. I have regained control of this account. I am furious at what cryptoadvisor has done and to me it is now 99.99% clear that he is a THIEF. What we had agreed on is I would not get any funds until I delivered and that if he could find someone to do it for cheaper he does it else he lets me take care of it. So all the talk about him not meeting my dev is bullshit and irrelevant.

What has happened here is he has stolen people's money. "Although the ICO total was around 42btc, the actual amount put in from investors was much less. We put in about 20btc, and I gave about 10btc to yincoin & yangcoin users to buy into the ICO (they can confirm)."  
You guys can all see how shady and fucked up all of this is. You do not just send yourself 20 BTC and then get the BTC and the HMY. Had the price of HMY gone up would they have claimed all of this? Why the fuck give ying/yangcoin users 10BTC of our money? this was never declared originally. These two actions would get him into prison in real life.

I had previously turned a blind eye to all of that but now he has screwed me over. I have now lost my BTC for tor... What on earth is this retarded tactic of just shutting off all communication...

So basically what he has said is goodbye and I am taking the ICO money and fuck us all.


If this is not your intention then give someone from the community the money and let us take care of this coin



To the community. If you guys want to take this further let me know but we will need funds. Tor is ready and I have the new wallets... but before I release it we have to get a solid plan...