If China wanted to destroy bitcoin I think they could do it. Yes, they have that much juice.
One Chinese I know fairly well is vehemently and viscerally opposed to Bitcoin on principle and steadfastly refuses to learn or understand anything about it. I have to hypothesis that whatever factors effect her perception are at play with a healthy percentage of the rest of the population.
There is this black guy I know who is quite violent. I have to hypothesize that whatever factors affect his perception are at play with a healthy percentage of the race.
Asshats. Shameless libertarian asshats.
At least he didn't generalize the whole human race and claim to know how to care for everyone. There's no bigotry greater than that.
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Re: Footage of a Resource-based Economy
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Harvey
on 13/12/2011, 01:00:51 UTC
At least I didn't go as far as to critique a worthless post.
Just answer one question of mine: Is this what you want?
Your posts of late seem to lack content. But the answer is no. I want to maximize the personal freedom people have, I advocate an anarchistic society. The difference is that I see the need to acquire purchasing power to be able to live as a very archaic approach to society. It's very limiting and causes a wide variety of problems. I do not see it as a true 21st century approach. This is why I advocate RBE.
I also advocate Bitcoin but not because it's ideal, I like it because it's a concrete solution that at least solves some problems and gives people the ability to not have to rely on outdated structures such as the governments and banks of today. RBE is more of a vision of the future and less of a practical solution at this point.
I don't like to make generalizations about the human species especially when it comes down to using shallow science.
Anyways, very well. I see where this is coming from.
This whole RBE thing is still way too greatly dependent on the false assumption that we as a human species are not lazy. We are practically genetically programmed to collect as many resources as possible while doing as little as possible, since "doing" wears us out and makes us die faster.
humans, We are lazy therefore we are motivated, our lives easier, we have today, we have a massive conflict between what we want to do and what we have to do, People in general, human nature, from my experience a lot of people do work, If people could have...
He owns humanity, everybody. Listen to this guy. He owns you, he knows what you want before you know it. All of your desires are his. Submit.
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Re: No longer tin-hat conspiracy theory: FEMA Camps Everywhere
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Harvey
on 12/12/2011, 23:02:48 UTC
I've already seen government IPs in my Gmail inbox. I know I am on terrorist watch lists. I am leaving the country for a reason. Mind you, I am not remotely violent. Anarchistic? Unremorsefully.
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Re: I wish to purchase rights to posts on this forum.
I rather think the RBE will fail if one of it's main goals is to eliminate 'poverty' because the natural currency that would arise, without people even realizing it at first, would be 'reputation' & 'popularity'. People would be sucking up to each other left right and center to 'put a good word in for me' with someone else.. to be part of the 'in' group etc. That's how you'd get your massage. "hey.. get me invited to that party all the cool folk are going to.... I'll give you a nice back rub!" There would still be social lepers - and they would be the new poor, but this time there isn't some other currency they can use to alleviate the suffering their social ineptitude might cause them.
I agree with this. Reputation and popularity are not really going anywhere even in a RBE. I have a hard time imagining a human society where these attributes would be eliminated. But what would change is what kind of people are admired. That is for sure. These days people seem to admire people who are famous, with no regard to how this person has actually contributed to the society. I see being a scientist or an engineer a much more popular position simply because people would see them as major contributors.
You just don't get it, do you? The INDIVIDUAL desires who she prefers regardless of your preferences. You cannot couple all people under the ideal of Man. It is simply irrational for who we stand for in the end is only ourselves. We only act because it brings us pleasure. You cannot have people enjoy things indiscriminately or under a different discrimination entirely.
Is a man not entitled to love how he wishes? Is this choice not what defines a man in the first place? If I choose to revere sluts over scientists, am I not entitled to do so?
I hold that it is absolute choice that defines a sentient being. To me it is through choice that one is free.
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Re: Staff from PBC suggests taking control of bitcoin network.
1.Government and central bank should face up to the existence of Bitcoin, take control of most bitcoins by using the computing power of supercomputers all over the country.
It is impossible to "take control of most bitcoins" using computing power alone.
Most bitcoins are in cold storage. A double spending attack would affect only a small fraction of bitcoins, or it would destroy the current block chain altogether if it persisted for long enough. In which case you are talking about outright destruction, not "facing up to existence".
Either these people failed to RTMF, or this is a bad translation, or it's a fake.
He's probably talking about using the Chinese supercomputers to mine a majority of the 16.13 million remaining bitcoins.
Which would be marvelous. The price increase would be exponential. I find myself liking our Chinese overlords more and more.
How would adding mining power increase the price?
You're probably thinking of the other attack: buying up coins regardless of the cost. That would make the majority of this forum millionaires
Heh, mining equates to bitcoin payouts. If governments begin earning the majority of the Bitcoins, they'll have the means to sell them for high prices. It would be a good return for the taxpayers to say the least -- on a societal level.
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Re: Staff from PBC suggests taking control of bitcoin network.
He's probably talking about using the Chinese supercomputers to mine a majority of the 16.13 million remaining bitcoins.
And the majority of the fees for the remaining history.
If people desire Bitcoins from the Chinese entirely. I am sure people will happily for service elsewhere, if they so desire it.
Again, there is little to be afraid of here. You people are scared of centralization but there is none to be had. It's not the amount of money nor fees that is relevant but the means that distribute them. The means remain sound and sovereign.
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Re: Occupy Round Table on Bitcoin
by
Harvey
on 12/12/2011, 22:29:55 UTC
The whole discussion is easily refuted:
"He who is infatuated with Man leaves persons out of account so far as that infatuation extends, and floats in an ideal, sacred interest. Man, you see, is not a person, but an ideal, a spook."
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Re: Speculators, I need your voice.
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Harvey
on 12/12/2011, 22:06:17 UTC
It's not for a blog but a book. I may post it online in the future.
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Speculators, I need your voice.
by
Harvey
on 12/12/2011, 21:48:54 UTC
I want an individual of great skill in these markets to give me a look into the price of the future founded on rationality and reason. There will be money for your writing. I need 1500 words at the least.
What good would bitcoin be if it were being manipulated by the Chinese government? I think I would sell off at that point. To me that is a fatal flaw. It completely undermines bitcoins strengths.
Heh. Only the means turn you away, you racist. You don't like those filthy Chinese touching your coins? I kid, I kid.
The fact is if China tackles the market, so will many other governments. If the incentive exists for the largest sovereign government to manipulate the currency, it won't be alone.
The rational way to see this is only as mere demand. Governments are just another Bitcoin customer. They just have guns to extort more funds. Dangerous in ways but have faith that competition will keep them in check: China doesn't own the world.
Nobody is conquering the Bitcoin network. It shall remain sovereign as always because everybody is going to want to have a stake in it.
Your choice in Bitcoin suppliers and supporters shall remain and your coins will only be found more valuable. The fantasy we are portraying here can only be good fortune.
1.Government and central bank should face up to the existence of Bitcoin, take control of most bitcoins by using the computing power of supercomputers all over the country.
It is impossible to "take control of most bitcoins" using computing power alone.
Most bitcoins are in cold storage. A double spending attack would affect only a small fraction of bitcoins, or it would destroy the current block chain altogether if it persisted for long enough. In which case you are talking about outright destruction, not "facing up to existence".
Either these people failed to RTMF, or this is a bad translation, or it's a fake.
He's probably talking about using the Chinese supercomputers to mine a majority of the 16.13 million remaining bitcoins.
Which would be marvelous. The price increase would be exponential. I find myself liking our Chinese overlords more and more.