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Re: legendary account
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Hazelnut
on 03/11/2015, 16:00:25 UTC
Quote from: steveds on November 02, 2015, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: Christianne_Gottlieb on November 02, 2015, 05:09:06 PM
Quote from: steveds on November 02, 2015, 05:06:57 PM
Quote from: Christianne_Gottlieb on November 02, 2015, 04:32:25 PM
Quote from: 23who23 on November 01, 2015, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: Christianne_Gottlieb on October 31, 2015, 07:30:23 PM

1.6 BTC


my mistake, this is the last valid bid.

And no, I didn't ask for any coins to be sent to that user.


Yes, I am still on. In fact I will raise my bid to 1.7 BTC just in case someone shows up with better offer just before closing.

Can I keep your account in that sig campaign you mentioned?
Are going to re-open this auction after buying it ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1207759.msg12678391#msg12678391


no.
Ok then, you might be having a nice collection of legendary accounts if you win.
good luck on your bidding.

Probably the same account, tarmi.

I think it isn't against the rules to bid at your own auction, though.
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Re: Is escrowing for yourself using a secret alt OK?
by
Hazelnut
on 09/09/2015, 04:34:09 UTC
Quote from: EcuaMobi on September 09, 2015, 01:21:13 AM
I'm pretty sure 'No' is going to win. It's clear it's better for it to be a third party.
Probably we should include in the discussion how bad it is and whether it deserves negative trust.

Personally I'm convinced it's bad and would definitely not use an escrow known to have that behavior, but I wouldn't say he's a scammer and therefore I don't think a negative feedback is deserved [more].

You were convinced it was wrong behavior, but as soon as you saw TC doing it you changed your opinion rather than neg him. Way to show a backbone.
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Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself
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Hazelnut
on 08/09/2015, 20:05:26 UTC
Quote from: eneilwex on September 08, 2015, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 08, 2015, 06:02:34 PM
Quote from: Vod on September 08, 2015, 03:46:45 PM

Quickseller is threatening that anyone who leaves him negative trust will be excluded from DT.  Not sure if that is true or not (high level alts?) but I think people are erring on the side caution until all the shit is exposed.

I wouldn't leave him negative trust. Obviously he's a great scam buster but I wouldn't leave him negative trust. He's proven how he can go on the offensive & ruin people. Who knows how many alts he has, it's not something I'd want to fight. I don't even trade here but I don't want negative trust. I'm not surprised people are scared to give him negative trust.

TSP has been persecuted & now the negative trust he had from QS is effectively worthless he suddenly has another one from a different account. I'd advise anybody who is just a normal poster (not on DT) to steer clear of QS & to not piss him off.


So what if he gives you negative trust? How will that affect your life in the real world? Should we cower in fear of the admins and mods? I will negative trust him If I knew how.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

In that case you should give a negative to TC, he is the one behind all this. QS was only a puppet who was discarded when he was more trouble than was worth.

Follow this link, scroll down and leave your rating https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=37522
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Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself
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Hazelnut
on 07/09/2015, 08:13:28 UTC
Quote from: Vod on September 07, 2015, 08:13:19 AM
Quote from: OgNasty on September 07, 2015, 08:11:11 AM
The issue here is you charging money for providing a 3rd party service which was not a 3rd party service.  Now that you have admitted it, I await the backlash from those who have left you positive trust.

I guess the ball now lies in the court of TomatoCage and BadBear - they are the ones giving him the power to lie and cheat.

BB has removed QS from his trust list.
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Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself
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Hazelnut
on 07/09/2015, 03:55:50 UTC
Quote from: Blazedout419 on September 07, 2015, 03:49:26 AM
Quote from: Hazelnut on September 07, 2015, 03:42:55 AM
Quote from: xetsr on September 07, 2015, 03:36:20 AM
He explained it better here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.msg12348272#msg12348272

You believe that? have you considered the possibility that he made that up to try and get out of a tight corner? Or is your faith in him is so absolute that you are incapable of thinking for yourself?

This thread has been fantastic. It shows how far otherwise trustworthy people would bend their morals rather than admit that they were wrong in their judgement (TC, Blazedout419, Blazr, xetsr). Credit to Vod for being able to see this with an open mind. If anything it would have been easy for him to fall in the same pattern as you as he is tageted so much.

How have I bent my morals exactly? I clearly stated that escrowing for yourself would be wrong. I can not say that Panthers and QS are one in the same. Please explain where I have done something that is even slightly immoral.

In a neutral position you would've looked at the situation and evaluate. In this case your belief in QS makes you arrive at

Quote from: Blazedout419 on September 07, 2015, 02:16:04 AM
Ah good I really did not think he would do that as he knows better.

even though he hasn't said that clearly. The irony in this situation is that you believe in QS, and he fooled you into giving him feedback on two accounts, essentially abusing your default trust position. I am sure if you didn't have full faith in him you would have realised all this long back.
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Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself
by
Hazelnut
on 07/09/2015, 03:42:55 UTC
Quote from: xetsr on September 07, 2015, 03:36:20 AM
He explained it better here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.msg12348272#msg12348272

You believe that? have you considered the possibility that he made that up to try and get out of a tight corner? Or is your faith in him is so absolute that you are incapable of thinking for yourself?

This thread has been fantastic. It shows how far otherwise trustworthy people would bend their morals rather than admit that they were wrong in their judgement (TC, Blazedout419, Blazr, xetsr). Credit to Vod for being able to see this with an open mind. If anything it would have been easy for him to fall in the same pattern as you as he is tageted so much.
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Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself
by
Hazelnut
on 06/09/2015, 11:58:08 UTC
Quote from: Blazr on September 06, 2015, 11:54:01 AM
Here is the thing, you can never know if two users here are the same user. If they stated they are different users and were found out to be the same, that would be different that would be a lie. But I have yet to see QS state that he is or is not Panthers52. He never told the buyer that they were different people. Caveat Emptor.

You are saying that the buyer getting deceived is fine, as QS didn't say or do or mention something? Basically, you are supporting this action on a technicality but are oblivious to the morality of it?

You are willing to trust and back a person who is trying to use some loophole to deceive someone else?
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Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself
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Hazelnut
on 06/09/2015, 11:50:19 UTC
Quote from: Jhanzo on September 06, 2015, 11:43:43 AM
Quote from: Hazelnut on September 06, 2015, 11:41:18 AM
The sad part is Blazr is staking his reputation on someone who has been caught being escrow for self. If he is now supporting that kind of action too then nothing more needs to be said.

where's the proof of that, I wonder? or are you just saying that because of tsp's little assessment?
sad indeed.

Its clear to anyone but a few stubborn ones that Panther32 and QS are the same person. Its so obvious its a wonder that this is even being contested.

QS deceived and cheated his customer. TC turns a blind eye saying he will support QS as long as he does something useful. The others like Blazr supporting this action makes it sad.

What does Blazedout419 and Miutchell has to say to this? Mitchell's trust to Panther32 seems to have been influenced by free shipping, which was possibly QS's way of buying trust for Panther32.

Quote from: Blazr on September 06, 2015, 11:47:41 AM
Quote from: Hazelnut on September 06, 2015, 11:41:18 AM
The sad part is Blazr is staking his reputation on someone who has been caught being escrow for self. If he is now supporting that kind of action too then nothing more needs to be said.

I can only be myself and state my opinion. I won't silence myself just because my reputation is at stake. I don't care about my reputation so much, I know myself that I am a reputable person and I don't care what other people think. I got the rep that I have by being myself and will continue to do that.

Your support escrowing for self?
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Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself
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Hazelnut
on 06/09/2015, 11:41:18 UTC
The sad part is Blazr is staking his reputation on someone who has been caught being escrow for self. If he is now supporting that kind of action too then nothing more needs to be said.
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Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself
by
Hazelnut
on 06/09/2015, 11:23:13 UTC
Using an alt for escrow is a scam, and it deceives the other party in the trade. TC endorsing it shows how much blinded he is increasingly becoming, and the forum having him on level 1 shows how screwed up it is.

QS deceived the other trader, and stole the escrow fee.

QS also deceived Blazedout419, Mitchell and TC and got positive feedback from them. Its funny that they support him even after being fooled into thinking Panther32 is a separate person.
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Re: Everyone calling for Quickseller to end war on tsp; QS ignores thread for weeks
by
Hazelnut
on 18/08/2015, 19:23:24 UTC
The best solution is for TC to put TSP in his trusted list. That way both QS and TSP can fight between them on level ground and not trouble anyone else.
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Re: CloudThink.IO removed management pictures after being caught with stealing
by
Hazelnut
on 06/07/2015, 08:39:13 UTC
Quote from: Xialla on July 06, 2015, 07:54:42 AM
uhh I see again same guys whoring for few cents, check this legendary cheap slut as example:

Quote from: ajareselde on July 06, 2015, 06:17:34 AM
Type: Twitter
Link:  https://twitter.com/ajareselde/status/617939644618043393
Bitcoin Address: :  1MZvjgQFQdAUUx5n6Prxw4oGuRycVmaZYR

cheers

Quote from: ajareselde on June 19, 2015, 01:41:05 PM
Standard 2 Year Investment Package
Status Active
Renew Date Jun 19, 2017

I confirm i received the package as promised.
Thanks

Quote from: ajareselde on June 08, 2015, 09:53:51 PM
Username: ajareselde
Address: 1MZvjgQFQdAUUx5n6Prxw4oGuRycVmaZYR
Member Type: Legendary
Data Joined: 8th June 2015

good thing is, that cloudthink don't offer "suck my d1ck" for 0.1BTC, because this guy would be first in queue...


He should get negged, no two words about it. He has been selling out for cheap for a long time. If he could be made an example of the others will flee.

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Re: Any rules on ratings ?
by
Hazelnut
on 11/06/2015, 08:10:07 UTC
OP has a history of promoting ponzis
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1067700.msg11467402#msg11467402

He knows the scam is about to end soon and is trying to cover himself.

Quote from: Blazedout419 on June 10, 2015, 08:45:24 PM
Pretty sad people will accept pay for an obvious ponzi like that. I was half temped to start dropping negatives on those people myself, but decided against it.

You should do that. Dropping negatives on those running the scams are of no use as the warnings are not seen by all those being affected by signature.

At minimum, crazyearner and legendster should get negatives. They are the biggest offenders in terms of impact.
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Re: Bitclix Not Pay / Not Reply emails
by
Hazelnut
on 03/06/2015, 23:52:28 UTC
Carrying ad for scam and warning about other scam, the irony.
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Re: CloudThink.IO removed management pictures after being caught with stealing
by
Hazelnut
on 03/06/2015, 23:41:28 UTC
PM Blazr and ask him not to support this scam.

Give negative trust to crazyearner. He was promoting Cryptomm earlier. Once the big one gets red others will be scared and leave.

Quote from: mirjangka on June 03, 2015, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: waterpile on June 03, 2015, 12:18:30 PM
Quote from: mirjangka on June 02, 2015, 11:09:07 PM
2 days payouts will get frustrating so I will assume that all participants agree if I escrow the estimated costs until June 8 with a trusted escrow. I will still issue the payouts for June 3 and fund the escrow with costs for the next 4 days, until June 8.

If someone objects choosing BlazrEscrow to act as escrow, state your case in this thread.

Thank you!

Did Blazr already agreed to escrow funds?


Not yet, he sent me a PM offering his services but I'm still waiting for his confirmation. Anyways, I will issue the payouts in a bit.
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Re: CloudThink.IO removed management pictures after being caught with stealing
by
Hazelnut
on 31/05/2015, 09:46:28 UTC
Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 08:57:55 AM
Quote from: Hazelnut on May 31, 2015, 08:37:24 AM
It's an easy decision. You want to protect the few who joined the campaign inspite of being aware there is no escrow and that they are advertsing scam. You're ignoring all those outside the few threads who can't see the warnings exposed to the ads and thinking this is legit.

There is no reason for any trusted escrow to help them. In the current situation they're getting no one and campaign is dead. If any trusted escrow helps them they are responisble for anyone getting scammed by them due to their ad.


No, it's not. This campaign pays something like 75% better than the best available non-risky signature campaign. It will fill up and the same advertising potential will be achieved regardless of whether or not someone escrows. I want someone to escrow so that less people are at risk of being scammed. I'm aware that's not the case right now but I'm fairly sure it will. Once it does someone needs to step up - perhaps not yet though.

You want to protect all those who are joining the campaign even though there are warning signs? They're joining knowing it is a scam and that their ad may cause someone to lose. They don't care and want their pay. If they get scammed let them be.

You don't care for all those who can be scammed by the ad? Instead of making escrow you should be trying to find ways to prevent it.
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Re: CloudThink.IO removed management pictures after being caught with stealing
by
Hazelnut
on 31/05/2015, 08:37:24 UTC
Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 06:48:45 AM
Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 06:47:04 AM
Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 06:20:09 AM
No, let TC escrow it. No offense to you TheGr33k but if anyone is going to escrow this IMHO it should be Tomatocage or someone with equivalent trust as this seems like a large escrow. If TC's offer falls through I will offer to escrow as an impartial escrower.

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 06:46:20 AM
No, please. I don't want anybody to escrow this campaign especially highly trusted members like TC. It will only increase effectiveness of the scam.

It's a hard choice, isn't it? If we don't escrow, people might get scammed here...but escrowing will lead more people to the (potential) scam.

Sigh. It's a hard decision.

It's an easy decision. You want to protect the few who joined the campaign inspite of being aware there is no escrow and that they are advertsing scam. You're ignoring all those outside the few threads who can't see the warnings exposed to the ads and thinking this is legit.

There is no reason for any trusted escrow to help them. In the current situation they're getting no one and campaign is dead. If any trusted escrow helps them they are responisble for anyone getting scammed by them due to their ad.
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Re: CloudThink.IO removed management pictures after being caught with stealing
by
Hazelnut
on 31/05/2015, 01:26:09 UTC
All these efforts, and in the end Tomatocage may be helping them.

Quote from: mirjangka on May 31, 2015, 12:02:14 AM
I hope every participant agrees with me but I have taken the liberty to accept Tomatocage's proposal to host our funds as escrow until first payout on June 8.

Tomatocage, if you could please confirm that you will be holding the the funds as escrow, I will send 3BTC to an address which you provide on this thread and further send 1 or 2BTC if spots are filled. He will also send the payouts on June 8 from the data in the googledocs payout table containing participants which will be public very soon. The payout table will be updated regularly as participants are confirmed. If users have objections on payouts, they can state this in the thread.


Lets see if anyone has the guts to give him negative rating. Will dooglus do so as he did for BTCBLOGGER https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=403194

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Runs a signature campaign that pays people to dishonestly promote a Ponzi scam.

The ads he pays people to post say things like ">> CRYPTO-MMM.com << Double Your Money in 1 Month 7% Payout Daily
● A Comfortable, Speedy and Easy Online Investment", without any mention of the fact that this is a Ponzi.

I would think twice before dealing with anyone willing to sell out to an obvious scam like this