And WE are now listed on Cryptopia.... they didn't hold out on the Btc/Flt like the other exchange did.  yay

^ im wondering that as well.

Why miss out on a possible market?

Meh, their loss. I did toss some on there though, I am willing to trade my flutter for LTC and Doge... But i wont be trading them for anything else on their personally. I tried asking bter to list FLT/LTC a while back with no response. So i am happy there is now an exchange that does have this trading pair!

Looking into why FlutterCoin has decided to be delisted from your exchange?

Seems so sudden and unnecessary as it was just starting a recovery and new ideas are being talked about with the coin. The volume had picked up recently and community has been active again; the wallet runs smoothly.

I am just looking into the reasons for this delisting so i can share with the FlutterCoin Community the reason behind your decision to no longer trade our coin?

Thanks... Sincerely,  HelloToAll

I understand your disappointment.
Unfortunately, from time to time, we must make a call whether to keep a market or to remove it, I am afraid that it is not a single metric we use but several factors weighed in with this decision. As much as we would like to keep the markets that we chose to list, it is inevitable that some will have to be removed at some point.

And I am sorry but I can't give you any more information about why a certain coin is exactly delisted. We are not in the habit of discussing all our business decisions in detail with customers as you may understand. All I can say is that we gave it careful thought before making this decision.

Best regards,

Martin
Poloniex Support

One last question... If we can continue to grow our community and prove our worth on other exchanges. Would Poloniex consider re-adding the fluttercoin market?

I would not be able to say either way as support are not involved in these processes.

I know that we are certainly always open to innovative coins that are contributing to the crypto space but there's no set formula as to what will get any coin listed.

Let me know if you need anything else.

Best regards,

Javan Green

These are the responses i received when i questioned them.

@FreshFund i think that would be a good goal too! Another goal of ours would be to try and get another exchange to trade flutter and work our way back up to polo wanting us back!!!

Darn things were looking good for FLT ... Why did they decide to do this? Darn and i held out at that top there  

I say we can still work as a team to revive it, this news is not our death.

But, our best bet is to e-mail them ask them why they are delisting us... and also to ask that they consider not delisting us! If they get enough feed back from us... they may possibly withdraw the delisting... possibly.

Lastly, if they do delist us in the end, our goal is to show them that we are worth having us back on their exchange!

And, I do still have a idea I would like to do with flutter coin. Nothing to special, just plans on giving people with fluttercoin something you can buy with your fluttercoin. To help drive its use as a currency!  As we had someone make a point about how all the places our site links you to spend them are all dead and gone. Anyways been working and saving to buy stock for the online store i plan to accept fluttercoin at! I'll give more details, once i am close to getting it up and running!

Just know, what drives most successful Cypto's is a strong commiunty. We must stand strong together! And Build... Together!

(Sorry i have no been posting, busy with working 6 days a week... among other things... and squeezing in going to concerts while sacrificing sleep to do so, gotta have some fun this summer! lol)

This is where you can go to get details and see the block chain

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/flt/

Go to this page to get the wallet and guide how to install...    

http://fluttercoin.us/download/

  ...Also sometimes it does not sync after setting it all up (might have just been me) but, just go to crypto chainer and download the block chain, and than it'll sync up and work perfectly

And i think this is the white paper... for proof of transactions.      

http://fluttercoin.us/specifications/

Ofeefee could better answer your questions, as he is the lead developer here dont know who else is helping him!

 But, i thought i would put the info i know here!

Do not change what exactly?   

We need more dialog, why do you think these changes are bad for the coin long term? The goal is to build something into this coin to help it to be a viable coin that is not just a over inflated coin that one day could become worth nothing. As with the system right now... the least amount i stake a month is not less than 2%(maybe only 1.8% sometimes) making it so i make 20% of my holdings per year, let alone if i hold them each month i will have compounding interest so in the end i would end up making even more.

This is not a good level of inflation, this type of inflation has destroyed real world currency time and time again! Why do you believe a system that has proven to fail time and time again in real world (tangible) currency is a viable system for a digital one?

While i believe that it has been good for the coin for the initial 1,000,000 blocks, as it has helped to actually give out a fair distribution of the coins without that being the initial purpose of the high inflation rate (high PoS payouts).

But, again these are just thoughts. I think its great and best for the coin to start a deflationary aspect to our PoS! Would we be first to have a PoS coin that deflates like this? I personally do not know that many PoS coins other than FLT, NXT, and Qora... but if we were the first to do that kind of PoS system it might even draw some attention towards us (not saying we would be though, i do not know) and maybe a few more developers that could help ofeefee out! and have more brains for more ideas for the coin!

And lastly maybe rebuild the awesome community that seemed to use to be here! I was not around in the glory days (the beginning)... but, I wish to build toward another glorious future! 

Yeah you are right it is not really enough to make it an issue! Even if we did raise the pow to 50 coins per PoW block only 2.5 would be PoT. which still isnt enough to make it an issue. So maybe just leave it as is.

I also personally think the whole PoT is what makes Fluttercoin special!!!



But, i do think it is to cheap to send a transaction. Even if we raised it to 1 flutter to send, it wouldn't hurt anyones pocket book, but i say if we do go through with an increase to PoW payouts. We rise the cost to send a transaction by that amount

Example:   we raise from current 5 Flt to 50Flt per block.... we raise the cost to send coins from 0.01 Flt to 0.1 Flt.

Just a possible idea though.

Also, I do agree balencing with the pow would be a good idea!  What im worried about with an increase to the PoW is ... an increase to PoT

and PoT "vetting"   ... i love the idea of Proof of transaction!!!!

But, the one issue i notice. If the amount gained is more than the amount spent to send transactions, people seem to always look at this as a flaw. (even if its not flawed) My opinion we need to try and make the amount attained by PoT to just under the amount to send a transaction. That way the benifit from PoT is that it can help pay your transaction, not just straight out pay you!  just a thought though!! i really dont understand the PoT system

(edit: Just a Thought, decrease PoT perentage to 1% of PoW block... increase cost to send trasaction.... maybe, increase PoT freqency? 50FLT per PoW block halfing along with the rest of the system... again just thoughts here) 

Again remember everyone..... we are talking as a commiunty these are ideas and opinions... please share yours!    

Sorry for waiting a bit before replying I wanted to see how people felt about it before doing any response...

Well it seems like we may have something here, maybe work on the details a little more, as ive said in an earlier post, i dont fully understand the pos algorithum, but you defienly explained it good their. 

My idea was based on all i knew was it was ment to give out 5% .... i did not know the top amount, nor really the technicalities lol
so, it was really just showing the lower % so first halfing (you were saying top is roulghly 20%) becomes top 10% and bottem 2.5%

Really as well it is just an idea, but with regards to it being unfair to new people who wish to join in the future, could that not be said about all coins? But, also the coin has been out and trading well ... so everyone has had a fair chance to get into this coin so if it does "Pop" off one day, no one could really say its unfair, just.... more.... DAMN why didnt i buy at 25 sat. lol





  ::)Getting a bit desperate, are we? You should be concerned about creating some use cases for this coin not about the supply... Only reason some people were holding this was because it gave good pos awards.

Well this is no desperation, this was a new player to the flutter field (community) Who, sadly unlike yourself seems to want to do things together to build the coin and the system and has put an actual idea fourth to the community to be debated on, maybe changed, maybe never past the talking stage.

But, from exactly what you said... further stresses my point behind my idea. The only ones holding the coin are those who want rediculous return rates on pos. If we change it to a reasonable rate of staking... maybe we can build fluttercoin to the uses it was meant for but in my opinion an inflation rate as large as flutters currently could be harmful and seemingly has been so!

So again the point of my idea is to bring discussion to the table about an idea how to build it and what to build towards.... what is your idea to build anything for the coin?   (not being a dick either, if you have an idea, put it out there!!! )

Lastly, in comparison to a lot of PoS coins, "if", after a couple halfings.... you will still get great PoS rewards. So most likely we will not lose any of those type of holders!



  ;)Is this coin still alive ? 

Alive and Kicking, Never Going to Die! Well maybe when the last computer on earth dies!!!!! lol

My thoughts on the coin and how to drive interest back into it would be for us to move to a system like most are after when they look to a coin for currency purposes. That is a system that drives some sort of deflationary aspect to the coin. As i can not lie getting the amount from staking is amazing, i can also see why the coin could over time die if it does not fix its inflationary aspect. (or find its purpose in the world of alt coins)
 
Though I am not here just to fret on the problems of the coin (in my opinion) .... but to talk to the community about an idea for fluttercoin 2.0 so to say....
One I wish to message the community about the idea to make sure it is embraced by all (or at least the vast majority)
Secondly to ask Ofeefee if one he agrees my idea is good for the coin, and also if he could possibly work to implement it!

Lastly, my idea..... 
Well the coin has been out for almost 2 and 1/2 years, and is still trading so that is good... but as more coins are created... more coins are created, if you catch my drift. To combat the inflation in the coin that we would see if this is not addressed, I suggest implementing a deflationary aspect to the POS algorithm, Basically a block having the would see the amount staked halfed in increments doubling in time after implementation.

So to put it in information that is basic and easier to understand what i mean by all this.....

Flutter pos 2.0 would start on the 1,000,000th block... starting at 2.5% (doubling in difficulty)  (2.5ish years into creation)

First halfing (second really, first of flutter 2.0) block 2,000,000th... 1.25%(doubling in difficulty) (2.5 years later)
(3,000,000th block... this is when the doubling in time will first be noticed as 1.25% will continue till the 4,000,000th block)
2nd halfing block 4,000,000th .... 0.625%(*******) (5 years after that)

3rd halfing block 8,000,000th ...... 0.3125% (10 years after)

4th halfing block 16,000,000th ..... 0.15625% (20 years after)

5th halfing block 32,000,000th ..... 0.078125% (40 years after)  (this would be 80 years after the first coin was minted roughly)
And so on

Please share how you all feel about this idea!? 
 

and honestly if your not going to buy Flutter coin at 40 sat. lol, its your loss! And you are most likely the type to bail on it on a rise in price anyway. But, there is nothing here to harp on. you cannot call bullsht on fluttercoin because you can not get enough coins to stake with from a Faucet, Name a coin you can get enough to stake with from faucets? and that has been around for 2 years? And is listed on polo?

P.S. no one likes to give out free money!

Real Faucets... do not give out free money. Not only that real Faucets are for the $-profiting of the Faucet owner, they make ad revenue giving out a fraction of their profits to keeps people coming to the site and keep ad revenue flowing.

lol well if you would ask about the staking or even just sell 1 lite coin.(or invest 0.0082 of a bitcoin) and you could purchase over 20,000 fluttercoin at current price which would give you more than enough to test it.

But, i will give you an idea as im not an admin nor understand the complex side to these coins Aka bitcoin and the likes. it seems the algorithom is set to give out 5% of the coins that have been produced per anunum. Meaning because there are those with inactive wallets and coins, it tends to give a higher percentage than would be first anticipated.

Please those more knowledgeable please correct me if I am wrong or add any points i missed!

But, if you are asking is the proof of stake worth it, Yes, yes it is in my opinion.

Although, both your posts did make me laugh, at first i giggled because you honestly came off as a beggar like the guys i see on the off ramps of the freeway! Than when the law came in... (because in real life panhandling is a crime in some places and the police can put a halt to it)... you freaked out yelling and calling names.

Please note, that in my last message i mentioned how you... (if you have a wallet up and running)... will get more fluttercoin from the "Faucet" in there than the fluttercoin faucets you mentioned were no longer active.

Would personally like to make a game like facet that would give out free flutter coin... make it fun to get them instead of just entering your address in and proving you are not a robot ... lol

But, i have no coding skills myself here!

If anyone is able to make the Super Flutter Game into a tournament style game id be down to back and support it and get it up and running.

Love to find a game maker that I could work with to make games to give out flutter coins with.

Until than... run you wallet every day, with the the free coins enabled in the flutter share tab!

(tend to get more from this than the facets right now anyway)

Nope no issues here!     ....i try my best to keep my wallet up and running 24/7!
My laptop sucks though battery is ca'put so if it gets unplugged by accident it goes down lol

Thought id let people know if they run into the same issue as I did when i first tried to get the wallet going...

All I had to do was download the Current blockchain on CryptoChainer.com   ....

Than it synced up and been staking ever since I got my wallet up and running

It was actually easy once i got told that!!

Back up to 50 Sat.    ....one thing people do not seem to realize, yes some people keep bailing on the coin giving people some cheap FLT. But, not all of us feel that way about our FLT... and while some sell low, we are seeing a steady incline in buys and that is a great sign!   

i know i had orders at 25 sat i pulled lol damn!!! lol back on the market in the 30ties if anyone .... is scared to hold, ill take them

Yes I agree it has not changed that much... but, what has changed is if someone actually wished--they could sell 2 million for more than a bitcoin; instantly! so why would someone sell off the market for less??? That was my only point, I was just trying to come off joking and playful about it. But, now I had to go explaining myself, probally looking like an arse now. lol,