I went first with skrill yesterday, still waiting for coins.

yes, thanks ! so this is not SCAMMER !!!!

so refund my BTC

A fool and his money are soon parted.

I would NEVER "invest" in this scheme (if you can even call this investing.. It's more like willingly handing over your BTC) for several reasons.

First, and foremost, the OP, HereToTrade, the owner of this operation, is severely lacking in moral candor.  He continually demonstrates a complete and utter lack of professionalism.  His goal should be to win the respect of people, especially those who are hesitant and suspicious, through politeness, diplomacy, and tact.  Instead, he chooses to harass and insult those who disagree with him.  When people point out the inherent fallacies of his operation, he calls them haters, instead of acknowledging the flaws in this whole scheme.

Second, he continually comes up with a new scheme after his previous ones (which have been at least two other schemes proven to be defunct) are proven to be ineffectual.  He simply doesn't know when to call it a day.

Third, it seems his one and only goal is to enrich himself through other people's money.  He seems to have no desire to work and earn his own income - instead relying on others to fill his wallet by promising high returns in a system that has already been proven by myself and others to be ineffectual.

What bothers me the most, personally, is what I said in the first part regarding his complete lack of professionalism.  I would never willingly hand over money to somebody who so blatantly insults so many people simply for having an opinion grounded in logic..

I also find it completely and utterly amusing that he believes this can and will last "forever" even though Fur11 and I have proven via simple math that this is defunct and ineffective.


HereToTrade has either not at all thought out the sustainability of this project..  Or has, and intends on running off with the money once it becomes clear this project is defunct.

Based on his behaviour - his crass insults and abject behaviour - leads me to believe that this is indeed a scam.  He seems continually to demonstrate that his only objective is to enrich himself no matter what the cost - even his own reputation.  He himself does not care how he appears to the public as he has no hesitation in regards to insulting people, for yet again, simply having a logical opinion.

Based on his behaviour - his crass insults and abject behaviour - leads me to believe that this is indeed a scam.

Are you kidding? Anyway if you paying higher - it will stops soon - 100%.
If you paying lower than input - it will stops soon - 100%.
because if you are paying lower than input -it is 100000% scam, because you are taking part of money to ur purse

EDIT: I read your scheme, and what can I say - anyway you are paying 200%.
in cause you are sending small parts of money - it will go longer, but anyway it will die

You said:
"You can choose who to invest under, so let me know who you are investing under or if you don't care who it is just write "anyone" in your post and I will decide who your investment will go under."
if level 1 is already busy that means he needs 3 investors only! if on level 2 there are 2 persons and i pay I would be on 2nd level and I doubt you will put the next 3 who invest under me so i can get fist the money!
so yeah we need 9 not 3! well one of us needs 7  the other one 8 and the last one 9

Did you send any payouts yet?

Where is this "site" you are talking about?