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Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
In 2-3 weeks, HTN will be one year old—so what has been done since then? I mean, aside from playing around with the hash a little, secretly adding a developer fee at first, and implementing useless features that are at the level of a first-semester IT student? Nothing.
It’s always the same pattern: money gets tight, then the hash gets tweaked, and a hard fork is released so the coin brings in some cash—and that’s it. We’ve seen this three times in the last 12 months. But okay, that’s debatable. So what do we have after a year? Nothing—that’s just the truth.
The team members claim that the web wallet is theirs, when in reality, it belongs to the Kaspa community—even the source code proves it. The lead developer talks about patents he has filed. A patent for copying Kaspa and submitting it as an open-source project? It doesn’t get more questionable than that. Do you even have a securities license, considering you're no longer open-source? Finland follows EU regulations, so I’d like to see that securities license. But yeah, it’s just more empty talk—what exactly is the patent for? Tweaking the Kaspa node for completely pointless nonce verification, which becomes useless at a certain hash rate? When you can’t show results—because you either can’t do anything or don’t do anything—you have to create the illusion of progress.
And that brings us to the whitepaper—has anyone actually looked at it? I think most of the project's effort has gone into filling the whitepaper with meaningless text. There’s an entire section just to mention that the Genesis block was mined. WTF? Another entire point just to say that the Kaspa wallet was extracted for iOS? Technically, that’s not even a single line of code—you just connect an OS simulator and run a command to extract it for iOS. The whole whitepaper is just a repeated version of ‘I did nothing.’
The HTN team spends their entire day bashing other coins and stalking them. They are only active in Discord discussing other projects—they don’t even have time to develop anything. It’s obvious that the project doesn’t even have a real developer. Otherwise, something would have been built after a year. Implementing a function to extract transactions from a wallet takes about three hours of coding—that’s what they’ve accomplished in a year. But even that is pointless, because international tax authorities don’t care about it. A valid coin can be worth 10 times less today than it was yesterday. The real concern is fiat deposits and withdrawals. This raises the question: do the developers even pay taxes, considering they seem clueless about financial regulations?
The lead developer (and yes, I know it’s questionable to call him that since he hasn’t actually developed anything) has been caught multiple times committing fraud. He mined in pools of other projects using fake nonces, cheating other users in the process—an act of financial fraud. He even admitted this publicly in other Discord servers and private chats.
Back in October, investors were promised that a marketplace was coming soon to encourage them to invest in the coin. Six months later, not a single line of code has been written for it. That’s fraud as well.
By the way, HTN's "Tonto" pre-mined. One day, he was drunk, burned his pre-mined coins, and deleted the Discord server. A few days later, when he sobered up and regretted his decision, he returned. He then quickly added a secret developer fee into the code, which was not mentioned anywhere—not even in the whitepaper. The fee was set at 5%. After it became public and was called out as fraud, it was finally added to the whitepaper. The fee was then adjusted to 1-5%. But what happens if he has a few too many drinks again and decides to delete the project? Think about it, people. This alone shows the competence (or lack thereof) of the people behind this project.
Stay away! And there are 100 more reasons why!
It’s always the same pattern: money gets tight, then the hash gets tweaked, and a hard fork is released so the coin brings in some cash—and that’s it. We’ve seen this three times in the last 12 months. But okay, that’s debatable. So what do we have after a year? Nothing—that’s just the truth.
The team members claim that the web wallet is theirs, when in reality, it belongs to the Kaspa community—even the source code proves it. The lead developer talks about patents he has filed. A patent for copying Kaspa and submitting it as an open-source project? It doesn’t get more questionable than that. Do you even have a securities license, considering you're no longer open-source? Finland follows EU regulations, so I’d like to see that securities license. But yeah, it’s just more empty talk—what exactly is the patent for? Tweaking the Kaspa node for completely pointless nonce verification, which becomes useless at a certain hash rate? When you can’t show results—because you either can’t do anything or don’t do anything—you have to create the illusion of progress.
And that brings us to the whitepaper—has anyone actually looked at it? I think most of the project's effort has gone into filling the whitepaper with meaningless text. There’s an entire section just to mention that the Genesis block was mined. WTF? Another entire point just to say that the Kaspa wallet was extracted for iOS? Technically, that’s not even a single line of code—you just connect an OS simulator and run a command to extract it for iOS. The whole whitepaper is just a repeated version of ‘I did nothing.’
The HTN team spends their entire day bashing other coins and stalking them. They are only active in Discord discussing other projects—they don’t even have time to develop anything. It’s obvious that the project doesn’t even have a real developer. Otherwise, something would have been built after a year. Implementing a function to extract transactions from a wallet takes about three hours of coding—that’s what they’ve accomplished in a year. But even that is pointless, because international tax authorities don’t care about it. A valid coin can be worth 10 times less today than it was yesterday. The real concern is fiat deposits and withdrawals. This raises the question: do the developers even pay taxes, considering they seem clueless about financial regulations?
The lead developer (and yes, I know it’s questionable to call him that since he hasn’t actually developed anything) has been caught multiple times committing fraud. He mined in pools of other projects using fake nonces, cheating other users in the process—an act of financial fraud. He even admitted this publicly in other Discord servers and private chats.
Back in October, investors were promised that a marketplace was coming soon to encourage them to invest in the coin. Six months later, not a single line of code has been written for it. That’s fraud as well.
By the way, HTN's "Tonto" pre-mined. One day, he was drunk, burned his pre-mined coins, and deleted the Discord server. A few days later, when he sobered up and regretted his decision, he returned. He then quickly added a secret developer fee into the code, which was not mentioned anywhere—not even in the whitepaper. The fee was set at 5%. After it became public and was called out as fraud, it was finally added to the whitepaper. The fee was then adjusted to 1-5%. But what happens if he has a few too many drinks again and decides to delete the project? Think about it, people. This alone shows the competence (or lack thereof) of the people behind this project.
Stay away! And there are 100 more reasons why!
This fudders idiotical bullshit accusations answered more:
1. Developer fee was not installed secretly like previously answered. It was voted by the community.
2. No-one in HTN team has claimed that web wallet is originally HTN's it is originally by Aspectron. Only thing is that the restarted Pyrin stole our modifications to the webwallet, because original Pyrin had closed source web wallet.
3. The patent is about securing proof of work integrity and has no relation to Kaspa. Also Kaspa Golang node, which HTN forked is under ISC license and even Kaspa does not have original license to it, but the Conformal Systems LLC, Decred and btcsuite before Kaspa.
4. HTN does not require a securities license, as Hoosat Oy does not engage in any of the following activities: providing investment advice on securities and financial instruments, portfolio management, intermediary trading in securities, executing client orders, underwriting or issuing securities, managing mutual or alternative investment funds (AIFs), offering fund distribution services, operating a trading venue (such as a stock exchange), market making, proprietary trading in securities, offering structured investment products, or acting as a financial intermediary in securities transactions.
5. HTN is open source. Open source does not mean parts of it can not be patented.
6. Whitepaper is whitepaper and it includes all the necessary data of what HTN is.
7. HTN is the only Kaspa fork that has released Android and IOS released in stores fork of the Kaspium wallet, nothing more. Don't even understand what you're spouting about some extraction.
8. The fact that you're saying that I don't have developed anything is just total bullshit.
9. I have not committed single fraud.
10. What I did in the past year? Fixed IAm3R's database filler, fixed original verbose data bug of Kaspa in HTN node, turned the network to transfer and validate the pow hash, added the developer fee, forked and made modifications to ledger, web wallet (burn button), mobile wallet to work with HTN and released them. Wallet balances in explorer, DAG view in explorer, the list is too long and other kaspa forks have copied all my work except the Securing PoW Integrity solution.
11. The developer fee was added to whitepaper when it was implemented. Not after you accused me of fraud. I've already asked why the fuck you're reading some old whitepaper.
12. You are just a fudder, nothing more.
Congrats on your 1st birthday Hoosat Network, wishing you many more milestones to come! I'm curious about your approach to securing Proof of Work Integrity, can you elaborate more on how it protects against Grover's Algorithm? Also, I've noticed you have a 360-block pre-mining phase, did you consider the potential implications of this on decentralization and fairness in the early stages of your network?
Thank you for your insightful questions.
In Bitcoin and other Proof of Work (PoW) cryptocurrencies like Kaspa, miners do not directly submit the PoW hash to the stratum or node. Instead, the PoW hash generated by the miner is not validated immediately. The key requirement is that the input to the PoW algorithm must be recalculable to produce a valid PoW hash that meets the target. As a result, the miner only needs to submit the block template data and the nonce. I won’t delve into the specific differences between stratum and node submissions, or the distinctions between Bitcoin and Kaspa here.
However, our Securing Proof of Work Integrity solution changes this approach by requiring miners to submit the PoW hash for validation, ensuring it matches the recalculated hash. This process is enforced across the entire network. Our method ensures the correct application of the PoW algorithm, detects nonce spamming, and enables us to take immediate action against it. Specifically, at HTN nodes, we can prevent Grover's Algorithm from being exploited for nonce spamming by forcing its search space to include the PoW hash.
If Bitcoin were to adopt our patent-pending solution, the search space against Grover's Algorithm would increase significantly. Currently, the search space is limited to 64 bits (nonce (32-bit) + extranonce2 (32-bit)). With our solution, it would expand to 320 bits (nonce (32-bit) + extranonce2 (32-bit) + SHA256D PoW hash (256 bits)). This change would shift the search space from 2^32 to 2^160 for Grover’s Algorithm.
Regarding the premine, I did take into account its potential impact on decentralization and fairness, because of that the premine represented only 0.58% of the maximum supply. From the premine 86% was later burned, deceasing the circulating supply.
IMPORTANT NOTICE TO THE FUDDERS!
You are welcome to fork and modify our code as you see fit. A lot of development has been done over the past year, and just yesterday, SlyVex copied our developer fee. If you have the time to spread false statements, you surely have the time to dive into blockchain development, take our code, and create your own project. I won’t interfere with your efforts, even if you choose to fork our work, unless you make use of our patent-pending solution. Be aware that if our patent is granted, you will be required to pay licensing fees for using our "Securing Proof-of-Work Integrity" solution or stop your project.
Code available at https://github.com/orgs/Hoosat-Oy/repositories
Feel free to reach out once you’ve made progress, and make sure to take pride in your work by doing so openly, rather than anonymously. Do you dare?
You are welcome to fork and modify our code as you see fit. A lot of development has been done over the past year, and just yesterday, SlyVex copied our developer fee. If you have the time to spread false statements, you surely have the time to dive into blockchain development, take our code, and create your own project. I won’t interfere with your efforts, even if you choose to fork our work, unless you make use of our patent-pending solution. Be aware that if our patent is granted, you will be required to pay licensing fees for using our "Securing Proof-of-Work Integrity" solution or stop your project.
Code available at https://github.com/orgs/Hoosat-Oy/repositories
Feel free to reach out once you’ve made progress, and make sure to take pride in your work by doing so openly, rather than anonymously. Do you dare?
I don't know what cached version of whitepaper you have as the developer fee information is on the whitepaper and the developer fee was voted by the community and has been announced in discord, telegram and twitter.
- The discord server was deleted 25 May 2024
- The discord server was recreated 26 May 2024.
- The developer fee was voted by the community 6 July 2024.
- Hard fork for Hoohash V1.0.0 and Developer fee was announced in 1 September 2024
- The Hard fork took place in 26 September 2024
There is three four months of difference between discord deletion and developer fee implementation and it was not implemented in silence.
Safebase you are just anonymous fudder, probably from another project.
- The discord server was deleted 25 May 2024
- The discord server was recreated 26 May 2024.
- The developer fee was voted by the community 6 July 2024.
- Hard fork for Hoohash V1.0.0 and Developer fee was announced in 1 September 2024
- The Hard fork took place in 26 September 2024
There is three four months of difference between discord deletion and developer fee implementation and it was not implemented in silence.
Safebase you are just anonymous fudder, probably from another project.
If you want to test Hoohash on a CPU, since GPU miner is not ready. You can use this following guide. And does mot require syncing for testing. Just remember that 5 first blocks after genesis are Pyrinhash and then Hoohash.
Install the testnet version of HTND:
git clone https://github.com/Hoosat-Oy/HTND.git
cd HTND
git switch -t origin/testnet
go install . ./cmd/...
Start the node and allow mining on top of genesis block.
~/go/bin/HTND --testnet --utxoindex --allow-submit-block-when-not-synced
Open another terminal window to create new cli wallet .
~/go/bin/htnwallet --testnet create
~/go/bin/htnwallet --testnet start-daemon &
Now another terminal window to create address for the miner.
~/go/bin/htnwallet --testnet new-address
Then open another teminal window to start CPU mining.
~/go/bin/htnminer --testnet --mine-when-not-synced --miningaddr=hoosattest:qpdhxq3exnz7ugunfg28n0vhft8vf8dhmkr02jd50fvrcksv3zpmcfe0nu8rx
Install the testnet version of HTND:
git clone https://github.com/Hoosat-Oy/HTND.git
cd HTND
git switch -t origin/testnet
go install . ./cmd/...
Start the node and allow mining on top of genesis block.
~/go/bin/HTND --testnet --utxoindex --allow-submit-block-when-not-synced
Open another terminal window to create new cli wallet .
~/go/bin/htnwallet --testnet create
~/go/bin/htnwallet --testnet start-daemon &
Now another terminal window to create address for the miner.
~/go/bin/htnwallet --testnet new-address
Then open another teminal window to start CPU mining.
~/go/bin/htnminer --testnet --mine-when-not-synced --miningaddr=hoosattest:qpdhxq3exnz7ugunfg28n0vhft8vf8dhmkr02jd50fvrcksv3zpmcfe0nu8rx
same nonsense in this fork is still there?
spreading fake news again about listing on Gateio for $10k
tonto and cryptonit remained their work lying in air fork
spreading fake news again about listing on Gateio for $10k
tonto and cryptonit remained their work lying in air fork
Why 10 grand? Do they just want an allocation of coins for your guaranteed listing? I am someone who is working at gate io and got access to the backend and what not. I got my eyeballs on everything in the physical vicinity of my hands and them hands are massing the buttons on the highly secure gate io mainframe server. I get can you through. Too much spying on my posterior though but can do it.
Would it be possible to verify you?
Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
Some history:
When I started HTN, Pacman was the first who tried to join as moderator and I refused it because I noticed he might have some ulterior motives and his sloppy English did not seem good fit for moderator. Then JohnCena joined and he had someone in mind that was Pacman with another account, but I could not confirm if it was same person I had previously refused to let join HTN team.
1. Pacman was kicked out of the team pretty fast, the joined the team 5th or 6th of March 2024, and was kicked out 11th of March 2024 for fudding about Exbitron trading fee prepayment prior to announcement privately to people.
2. We were supposed to launch 8th of March 2024 with Karsenhash. I had completed the premine two days before and only the team knew addresses of nodes.
3. Pacman kept complaining about me doing the premine alone, as many projects do it as a team.
4. Then someone started to mine prelaunch and had made ~350M HTN, which force my hand to invalidate that blockchain by changing algorithm and as I wanted to launch smooth with working miners, I chose the existing algorithm of Pyrinhash.
5. Pacman requested basically right after that a payment for moderation and I made a deal with him 10k HTN every two weeks, required him to KYC to me.
6. JohnCena came afterwards and requested 1M prepayment and I got him to agree to 42k HTN every two weeks, did not tell about this yet to anyone as there was time to first payment.
7. Then I got few reports that they had lost their coins. For example this one account who complained that he had lost 350m HTN when he patched after launch and requested refund, he had a screenshot of holding that much HTN.
8. Then Exbitron wanted to list HTN for free. I asked them if I could prepay trading fees and it was OK to them.
9. Before announcing it to the community I talked about that with the team. Pacman went to fud about this to people like Cryptonit who has been only consultant and did not have access to the team chat at the time.
10. I decided to remove Pacman from the team and not pay the 10k HTN since he had been on the team for 5 to 6 days instead of the full 14 days.
11. The pacman complainet to me that he was the one who was going to be paid the least, when reality I had already plans to pay everyone 42k HTN per two weeks. I have been doing so.
12. Then pacman also confirmed to me that his KYC was fake. So he gave a proof of stealing someones identity card. As such he is not only multiple account troll, but real life identity thief.
Ater that there has been Discrod, Bitcointalk, Twitter fudding from pacman with his alternative accounts for daysd! Explorer attacs, DDoS, RPC flooding, etc.. The list is so big with his false statements and screenshots without context that I'm starting to lose count.
Now to commemorate the 60th day straight fudding from Pacman and his alter egos. I have made a new meme according to his @MarioCryptoG twitter account.
https://i.ibb.co/zPFg1Lr/pacman3.png
When I started HTN, Pacman was the first who tried to join as moderator and I refused it because I noticed he might have some ulterior motives and his sloppy English did not seem good fit for moderator. Then JohnCena joined and he had someone in mind that was Pacman with another account, but I could not confirm if it was same person I had previously refused to let join HTN team.
1. Pacman was kicked out of the team pretty fast, the joined the team 5th or 6th of March 2024, and was kicked out 11th of March 2024 for fudding about Exbitron trading fee prepayment prior to announcement privately to people.
2. We were supposed to launch 8th of March 2024 with Karsenhash. I had completed the premine two days before and only the team knew addresses of nodes.
3. Pacman kept complaining about me doing the premine alone, as many projects do it as a team.
4. Then someone started to mine prelaunch and had made ~350M HTN, which force my hand to invalidate that blockchain by changing algorithm and as I wanted to launch smooth with working miners, I chose the existing algorithm of Pyrinhash.
5. Pacman requested basically right after that a payment for moderation and I made a deal with him 10k HTN every two weeks, required him to KYC to me.
6. JohnCena came afterwards and requested 1M prepayment and I got him to agree to 42k HTN every two weeks, did not tell about this yet to anyone as there was time to first payment.
7. Then I got few reports that they had lost their coins. For example this one account who complained that he had lost 350m HTN when he patched after launch and requested refund, he had a screenshot of holding that much HTN.
8. Then Exbitron wanted to list HTN for free. I asked them if I could prepay trading fees and it was OK to them.
9. Before announcing it to the community I talked about that with the team. Pacman went to fud about this to people like Cryptonit who has been only consultant and did not have access to the team chat at the time.
10. I decided to remove Pacman from the team and not pay the 10k HTN since he had been on the team for 5 to 6 days instead of the full 14 days.
11. The pacman complainet to me that he was the one who was going to be paid the least, when reality I had already plans to pay everyone 42k HTN per two weeks. I have been doing so.
12. Then pacman also confirmed to me that his KYC was fake. So he gave a proof of stealing someones identity card. As such he is not only multiple account troll, but real life identity thief.
Ater that there has been Discrod, Bitcointalk, Twitter fudding from pacman with his alternative accounts for daysd! Explorer attacs, DDoS, RPC flooding, etc.. The list is so big with his false statements and screenshots without context that I'm starting to lose count.
Now to commemorate the 60th day straight fudding from Pacman and his alter egos. I have made a new meme according to his @MarioCryptoG twitter account.
https://i.ibb.co/zPFg1Lr/pacman3.png
Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
@MarioCryptoG Aka Pacman you are identity thief, troll, fudder, liar, miner, dumper, attacker = shitman. 🤣
https://i.ibb.co/7Wx8Yfj/Screenshot-20240508-151149.png
https://i.ibb.co/7Wx8Yfj/Screenshot-20240508-151149.png
Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
This will be my final message in Bitcointalk.
HTN is not a scam:
1. The premine was 100,224,000 HTN, not 180m.
2. There has been no pumping or dumping from HTN team, it's free market.
3. There are archival servers running.
4. Explorer data is separate from blockchain.
5. There has been several explorer attacks.
6. Fudders like Pacman are lying for fudding, attacking explorer, mining to sell coins to drop the price.
7. We have not taken money from anyone, so we can not have scammed anyone.
HTN is not a scam:
1. The premine was 100,224,000 HTN, not 180m.
2. There has been no pumping or dumping from HTN team, it's free market.
3. There are archival servers running.
Quote
[tonto@archival-node-1 ~]$ htnctl GetInfo
{
"getInfoResponse": {
"p2pId": "329e74c72bcb4e26ef8d92d9d3f57686",
"mempoolSize": "4",
"serverVersion": "0.12.15",
"isUtxoIndexed": true,
"isSynced": true,
"error": null
}
}
[tonto@archival-node-1 ~]$ htnctl GetBlockCount
{
"getBlockCountResponse": {
"blockCount": "4513519",
"headerCount": "4513836",
"error": null
}
}
{
"getInfoResponse": {
"p2pId": "329e74c72bcb4e26ef8d92d9d3f57686",
"mempoolSize": "4",
"serverVersion": "0.12.15",
"isUtxoIndexed": true,
"isSynced": true,
"error": null
}
}
[tonto@archival-node-1 ~]$ htnctl GetBlockCount
{
"getBlockCountResponse": {
"blockCount": "4513519",
"headerCount": "4513836",
"error": null
}
}
4. Explorer data is separate from blockchain.
5. There has been several explorer attacks.
6. Fudders like Pacman are lying for fudding, attacking explorer, mining to sell coins to drop the price.
7. We have not taken money from anyone, so we can not have scammed anyone.
Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
scammer cryptonit has returned to team
do you still trust clown tonto "copycat fork shitcoin
play, play, play
do you still trust clown tonto "copycat fork shitcoin
play, play, play
Cryptonit is not a scammer, you are fudder/troller/scammer.
Cryptonit is unpaid volunteer Telegram moderator and consultant, nothing more.
Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
Also since Pacman you are fudding, please explain to me how 180M HTN would have been premined since 360 blocks with 278,400 HTN block reward is the premine and that equals 100,224,000 HTN.
Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
that doesn't help. means your node cannot function as an archival node and proof of correctness for others
not mention the massive PoW they are buried under.
everyone knows your bullshit now, all I said are the facts. I am waiting for archive node and running an explorer
that shows all the blocks from the beginning, If you are true and transparent, show us everything
but is easy to premine 180M HTN with block reward 275K and manipulate after change max supply from 10b to 17b
Making false advertisements about mexc and kraken to raise price of HTN
so you and your team sell at high prices
means pump and dump watch chart funny to list forks in big exchange hasn't been a month
I don't care about fork a copycat with some scammer.
not mention the massive PoW they are buried under.
everyone knows your bullshit now, all I said are the facts. I am waiting for archive node and running an explorer
that shows all the blocks from the beginning, If you are true and transparent, show us everything
but is easy to premine 180M HTN with block reward 275K and manipulate after change max supply from 10b to 17b
Making false advertisements about mexc and kraken to raise price of HTN
so you and your team sell at high prices
means pump and dump watch chart funny to list forks in big exchange hasn't been a month
I don't care about fork a copycat with some scammer.
Where is archive node from Genesis block?
I'm only watching your node after listing in xeggex !!!
why did you change block reward from 317 to 100?
and changed max supply from 10B to 17B
you increased max supply while reducing block reward !!!! looks stupid
It's funny you launched explorer without calculating premine coins
or you change database like a mouse and manipulate it.
funny thing is you mined 180M HTN with 275k block reward
You broke the record dude tonto, I love exposing your bullshit
Here everything will be archived and everyone will know about your fraud
below are links to pictures that show everything in evidence
https://ibb.co/kHTfWPf
https://ibb.co/5YNG29n
https://ibb.co/gF1BTmG
I'm only watching your node after listing in xeggex !!!
why did you change block reward from 317 to 100?
and changed max supply from 10B to 17B
you increased max supply while reducing block reward !!!! looks stupid
It's funny you launched explorer without calculating premine coins
or you change database like a mouse and manipulate it.
funny thing is you mined 180M HTN with 275k block reward
You broke the record dude tonto, I love exposing your bullshit
Here everything will be archived and everyone will know about your fraud
below are links to pictures that show everything in evidence
https://ibb.co/kHTfWPf
https://ibb.co/5YNG29n
https://ibb.co/gF1BTmG
This shall be the last answer to you.
1. There are archival nodes running and explorer does not directly use blockchain, but it's own database.
2. The premine was 100,244,000 HTN, not 180m and i'm not dumping coins.
3. There are no false advertisments about MEXC or Kraken.
4. I have not dumped HTN. It's free market and I do not do market manipulation.
5. I have not changed block reward. I calculated it first wrong to the whitepaper.
6. I have not increased the total supply. I calculated it first wrong to the whitepaper.
7. The deflationary table had to be updated and is currently calculated and missing 100m htn from the circulative calcuation is not bad, it is there currently.
8. You are lying yourself, to cause fudding, using ton of discord accounts, you have stolen identity of Malaysis person.
You have no proof for other things you are saying except the thing I've said myself that currently the explorer data starts from the first transactions sent to Xeggex. Even your screenshots state that there has been nothing wrong except miscalculations.
Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
It's very funny you trimmed everything to remove traces of premine
can you show us ledger and archive node from beginning ? or know your scam
or you continue to lie clearly with your bullshit fork
It's easy copycat kas + copycat algo heavyhash2+blake3 (pyi algo) and make a fork
biggest problem is you are toxic and attack the original kas
what happened with (cryptonit) on your team?
who was lying for people about Kraken
You have been exploiting this thing to raise price and sell premine coins from your other wallet
Just start your own fork - see if you can get anyone to follow you
Everyone is watching now your shitcoin and you cannot delete my comment like you do on discord to hide the facts for people
can you show us ledger and archive node from beginning ? or know your scam
or you continue to lie clearly with your bullshit fork
It's easy copycat kas + copycat algo heavyhash2+blake3 (pyi algo) and make a fork
biggest problem is you are toxic and attack the original kas
what happened with (cryptonit) on your team?
who was lying for people about Kraken
You have been exploiting this thing to raise price and sell premine coins from your other wallet
Just start your own fork - see if you can get anyone to follow you
Everyone is watching now your shitcoin and you cannot delete my comment like you do on discord to hide the facts for people
I have not trimmed anything. You keep complaining about that even though there are ton of archival nodes running, it's simple as running the explorer yourself and you shall see all the data you requested and I already told you I can give you SQL dump. That is the furthest I go as you can not ask nicely and keep fudding that I'm a scammer when you are harrassing, identity thief, fudder and troller. You do not have any proof that i'm lying or scamming anyone.
Cryptonit has been just consultant from the start. I removed his Discord permissions and he was fine with that. He has made Kraken listing submission.
I am not attacking Kaspa, you do realize that I've been on the scene even before the birth of Kaspa.
I do not need to delete your public comments and from this point onwards I won't even reply your fud.
Your ban in Discord stays for life.
Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
Continue lying because you will not put archive node all your words are lies
Also same practices as scam was. The explorer has intentionally removed page navigation,
so you can't scroll the history of ledger to check older blocks history.
Very funny you mined 100m HTN in 6 minutes with block reward 275000 HTN/Block
What happened in last 3 hours of pre-mining!!! When network difficulty is ridiculously low
Due to extensive pre-mining process, you changed MaxSupply From 10B to 17B
its all important man -- stop with this nonsense
https://ibb.co/GWw56Tx
Also same practices as scam was. The explorer has intentionally removed page navigation,
so you can't scroll the history of ledger to check older blocks history.
Very funny you mined 100m HTN in 6 minutes with block reward 275000 HTN/Block
What happened in last 3 hours of pre-mining!!! When network difficulty is ridiculously low
Due to extensive pre-mining process, you changed MaxSupply From 10B to 17B
its all important man -- stop with this nonsense
https://ibb.co/GWw56Tx
1. Yes premine was done in 6 minutes, because of block reward change to make that possible.
2. Lots of things happened in the 3 hours. I changed algorithm, found good way to do premine for successful launch, etc,
because someone had a jumpstart with original hash I was supposed to launch with.
3. 10b supply calculation was a mistake on max supply calculations, when the correct was 17.1b. I corrected my mistake and told it to the community.
4. You are nonsense, throwing up things to create fud.
Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
Yes, I am a toxic person because I exposed your manipulation and lying to people
I don't know you and I'm not on your team, clown
hope you show us this premine wallet !!!!
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qzzhz36e4mx45n46pkuxc6phrsm2mprzf8gctjeq6z1jg2sh0nvzw3akc78xu
Also show us txs this
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/txs/2be7a1aadc8c991927d702614c5e14d3d6e75a1e3fdfa9eea30e31bfc4ea6d18
when you sent 500k to expitron.com or trim it to hide premine wallet
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If you prune, you don't store it all. And "pruned points" are only for a given claimed UTXO set.
Chain history is important too.
you prunes so this proof is not available.
I don't know you and I'm not on your team, clown
hope you show us this premine wallet !!!!
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qzzhz36e4mx45n46pkuxc6phrsm2mprzf8gctjeq6z1jg2sh0nvzw3akc78xu
Also show us txs this
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/txs/2be7a1aadc8c991927d702614c5e14d3d6e75a1e3fdfa9eea30e31bfc4ea6d18
when you sent 500k to expitron.com or trim it to hide premine wallet
===========================================================
If you prune, you don't store it all. And "pruned points" are only for a given claimed UTXO set.
Chain history is important too.
you prunes so this proof is not available.
How long you will continue this? I have answered this already many times. The explorer database is starting from the Xeggex launch currently. I have many archival nodes running and I can restart db database, but for you I will not do that. You are just so damn idiot that I will not prove you anything. Yet again you are sending another wallet address and complaints about the transaction.
Pacmans Discord accounts:
!Nuelron2
Pacman
Artfinger37
Mr_dragon32
DadMr8
KEYFATHER
Gabriel
There may be many other accounts. He is Serbian fudder and troller and does not even understand answers.
He leaked 500k payment to Exbitron, before official announcement at HTN.
Then he started to be angry because I removed him from the HTN team.
Then he started to fud to people with Artfinger37 account.
Then he started to beg me for 10k HTN and I refused.
Then he has started to fud HTN all the time and keeps fudding on about Exbitron 500k prepayment even though he leaked it to everyone.
He has been doing this since March 11, 2024.
Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
No need to lie this is not a premine wallet why not showing blocks you have mined in
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qzdz9t3j5pmrmqwzj3htquk82kxj77uqdh47ucq23wv00evkxnff6sefjdrg4
This is wallet from which he sent premine coins to general wallet
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qq4zz4e336fntrq3p30urr2c54vcheduuez8cx02zn4rg0hd04ws7a6e3gmkt
but you trimmed all data so that your original premine wallets do not appearI
hope you show us this premine wallet !!!!
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qzzhz36e4mx45n46pkuxc6phrsm2mprzf8gctjeq6z1jg2sh0nvzw3akc78xu
Also show us txs this
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/txs/2be7a1aadc8c991927d702614c5e14d3d6e75a1e3fdfa9eea30e31bfc4ea6d18
when you sent 500k to expitron.com or trim it to hide premine wallet
Prune blockchain, don't archive node from beginning premine, hide traces that's what you did genius
You prune out txns and keep UTXO. Easy.
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qzdz9t3j5pmrmqwzj3htquk82kxj77uqdh47ucq23wv00evkxnff6sefjdrg4
This is wallet from which he sent premine coins to general wallet
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qq4zz4e336fntrq3p30urr2c54vcheduuez8cx02zn4rg0hd04ws7a6e3gmkt
but you trimmed all data so that your original premine wallets do not appearI
hope you show us this premine wallet !!!!
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qzzhz36e4mx45n46pkuxc6phrsm2mprzf8gctjeq6z1jg2sh0nvzw3akc78xu
Also show us txs this
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/txs/2be7a1aadc8c991927d702614c5e14d3d6e75a1e3fdfa9eea30e31bfc4ea6d18
when you sent 500k to expitron.com or trim it to hide premine wallet
Prune blockchain, don't archive node from beginning premine, hide traces that's what you did genius
You prune out txns and keep UTXO. Easy.
Let me explain something for you and I do know you know it.
1. It's essential to understand that a single wallet can manage multiple deposit addresses. These addresses facilitate diverse transactions and are not indicative of transferring funds to personal accounts. The claim that premined coins were moved to my personal wallet is inaccurate.
2. Regarding the 500k transfer, it was indeed sent to Exbitron as part of our operations and not for personal use, but as a fee prepayment.
3. Currently, the explorer database reflects data starting from the Xeggex launch. It’s important to note that while data from genesis is not immediately visible, it is retrievable.
4. I am fully capable of crawling back the data from genesis. However, please understand that this process is maintenance-intensive and time-consuming, as it involves crawling over 3 million blocks.
5. We have faced challenges with repeated attacks on our database filler, leading to data duplication issues in the SQL data. I have the genesis to xeggex SQL data backed up. I have addressed these issues diligently to prevent future occurrences.
Now lets continue. You were kicked out of the team right away when I saw your colors. You have been saying false statements and trolling/fudding after that constantly. All of this because I refused to give you extra HTN for your work, you even went to call me that I'm romxxx and complained about the 500k fee prepayment to Exbitron even back then. This was 1 month ago now.
How is it wrong to prepay trading fees for the community?
Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
Yes, I'm most annoying person because I exposed your bullshit in front of people
you have created two wallets for peak time mining
One of them is public, and the second hid it for eveyone
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qzdz9t3j5pmrmqwzj3htquk82kxj77uqdh47ucq23wv00evkxnff6sefjdrg4?page=1
Show that wallet and stop your scam!!!
Why did you send 500k to exbitorn scam exchange?
also trimmed transaction so it does not appear in explorer
https://ibb.co/4WnbkY9
you have created two wallets for peak time mining
One of them is public, and the second hid it for eveyone
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qzdz9t3j5pmrmqwzj3htquk82kxj77uqdh47ucq23wv00evkxnff6sefjdrg4?page=1
Show that wallet and stop your scam!!!
Why did you send 500k to exbitorn scam exchange?
also trimmed transaction so it does not appear in explorer
https://ibb.co/4WnbkY9
You are lying to people.
Wallets have ton of different deposit addresses. Node cli wallet moves UTXO's around deposit addresses of the wallet in when transactions are made. Yesterday I moved all the coins inside the wallet to the same address that is on the website for the premine wallet. As such you Pacman are spreading FUD everyday. That is why you are banned for life from the HTN community. I have not scammed anyone. No-one has sent me money for HTN.
The premine wallet is: hoosat:qzdz9t3j5pmrmqwzj3htquk82kxj77uqdh47ucq23wv00evkxnff6sefjdrg4
500k HTN was sent to Exbitron to prepay 500k HTN worth of trade fees at their exchange. This has been announced in discord before I even sent them to them. You are causing problems more than anyone.
You keep spreading false stuff and calling me a scammer? Pacman you are the troll fudder and if you continue this development I can send screenshots of your idiotic requests to everyone too.
Please send all of your HTN to our public burn address that no-one has access to and leave our communty alone. Since you don't even understand how UTXO based wallets work.
The burn address where every fudder can send their HTN to be destroyed:
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qzm5vg7uv66ze6mv8d32xhv50sxwhthkz9ly7049e87hr2rm7wr6zjxytztv7?page=1
Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
I'm here because HTN's discord is unfair to a team of scammers
You genius Finnish developer TONTO lol
You not transparent and work with your scammer friends Cryptonit, johncena and Romex ....etc
I will touch on this later...
Can you show community your original Premine wallet?
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qzzhz36e4mx45n46pkuxc6phrsm2mprzf8gctjeq6z1jg2sh0nvzw3akc78xu
I am waiting for your answer so I can expose you in bitcointalk
You genius Finnish developer TONTO lol
You not transparent and work with your scammer friends Cryptonit, johncena and Romex ....etc
I will touch on this later...
Can you show community your original Premine wallet?
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qzzhz36e4mx45n46pkuxc6phrsm2mprzf8gctjeq6z1jg2sh0nvzw3akc78xu
I am waiting for your answer so I can expose you in bitcointalk
I'm here because HTN's discord is unfair to a team of scammers
You genius Finnish developer TONTO lol
You not transparent and work with your scammer friends Cryptonit, johncena and Romex ....etc
I will touch on this later...
Can you show community your original Premine wallet?
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qzzhz36e4mx45n46pkuxc6phrsm2mprzf8gctjeq6z1jg2sh0nvzw3akc78xu
I am waiting for your answer so I can expose you in bitcointalk
You genius Finnish developer TONTO lol
You not transparent and work with your scammer friends Cryptonit, johncena and Romex ....etc
I will touch on this later...
Can you show community your original Premine wallet?
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qzzhz36e4mx45n46pkuxc6phrsm2mprzf8gctjeq6z1jg2sh0nvzw3akc78xu
I am waiting for your answer so I can expose you in bitcointalk
Dont talk trash. Hoosat is transparent and public you just stupid fud kid and trash saamme in discord. Get a life.
I'm talking to dev, not to a crying baby
I am waiting for his answer if everything is transparent.
Pacman you are troll and creating FUD with several accounts on Discord. You are banned for life from discord because of that.
Cryptonit and JohnCena are not scammers, Romxxx does not work on HTN. Also Cryptonit and JohnCena are not working anymore either.
Also that address has never been the premine wallet address. I don't know where you have gotten that address.
Premine is at wallet:
https://explorer.hoosat.fi/addresses/hoosat:qq3zdrnrrx0kjfqp2959g6f7dcjf8ndpzz2rtanf848dwh856tft2r69w7c64?page=1
Pacman you are one of the most annoying Fudder's I have ever seen.
Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
That's what I wanted to know too. Why was I wrongfully silenced and censors my comments in discord? Anyway, now the problem is solved, thank you for that.
Censoring your comments does not have any benefit to anyone. I don't know the details for your muting. But it has not been Cryptonit. Cryptonit and JohnCena are not community managers of HTN, they are marketing guys.
Re: [HTN] Hoosat Network fair launch 8.3.2024 14:00 UTC
Thats right. It was worst decision make cryptot/euthanasist one of admin hes discord one of biggest scums and liar. One bad Apple will rot your whole project.
It's funny how the one you call rotten apple can find out those people who are the real rotten apples faster than I can say Cheese.
I will resort to speaking the truth here to the fudders.
1. Pt_kangaroo made video of his child cursing at my image. Who will not ban him for that?
2. Cpt_price broke rule 2 of discord by name calling Cryptonit. As such JohnCena banned him, Cryptonit has not banned anyone.
These two bans will not be removed from Discord. Also Cryptonit and JohnCena are not the ones destroying HTN. HTN will not die because fudders cause panic selling.
1. Pt_kangaroo made video of his child cursing at my image. Who will not ban him for that?
2. Cpt_price broke rule 2 of discord by name calling Cryptonit. As such JohnCena banned him, Cryptonit has not banned anyone.
These two bans will not be removed from Discord. Also Cryptonit and JohnCena are not the ones destroying HTN. HTN will not die because fudders cause panic selling.
I can assure you whoever told you a fanciful story about a 2 year old 'cursing as your image' has lied through their teeth to you.
So, why don't you resort to telling the truth on Bitcointalk: did you see this alleged video of my 'child cursing at your image', or did someone else describe it to you?
Yes I have seen it as I have seen your prior dick logo to the competition. After the first ban you told me that you would behave. Even now you guys are going on a public forum to cause panic for Discord bans, when you could just DM me and talk things through like real people.
When will you answer my question (№24) ?
I repeat:
Why were my comments deleted and why was I muted for seven days in discord Huh
It's a good thing you can't delete comments here and it shows the unjustified censorship you impose on the Discord channel!
Why would I need to censor your comments? I don't need it here, I don't need it in discord. I can agree your timeout has been too long and as such it has been removed and are free to talk in discord again.
Yes I have seen it as I have seen your prior dick logo to the competition. After the first ban you told me that you would behave. Even now you guys are going on a public forum to cause panic for Discord bans, when you could just DM me and talk things through like real people.
Describe the video/s if you have seen them.
Then I'll post them up on Twitter alongside your description.
Let's see if you know the difference between the truth and a lie.
I have already described it enough. Do you seriously want to put video of your child into X for the public?