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Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
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HunterGatherer
on 29/04/2015, 22:33:26 UTC
Investing in crypto is risky. However, we can manage the risk, like not buying more we can't afford to lose... We are all grown-ups here, so we all did our own due diligence one way or another. Neucoin might work as well as it might not. Telling others what to do with their own money, spreading fear, crying out scam and calling ppl stupid at that are not smart. The smartest way to act is let others use their free will. 

Well said Euggio.  We could all stand to have a bit more of a "live and let live" attitude about this stuff, myself included.
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Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
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HunterGatherer
on 29/04/2015, 21:58:50 UTC
.....and still just 0.05 BTC.

https://blockchain.info/address/3MrNuksZ1VePU3dGiSQFiouWerJUJgDkfH
So what did we bet?  If I was right you had to post "HunterGatherer, you were right about this and I'm sorry for being so negative and cynical and I will try to stop posting FUD in the future."  Is that right? Smiley
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Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
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HunterGatherer
on 29/04/2015, 04:27:22 UTC
Note: showing plus 50% sold with no slowing down. I guess they forgot their terms to protect the little guys.
That protection doesn't work same as most in this concept does in reality not work. It's all just wind and noise.

The presale numbers are probably fake.

It's all just wind and noise.  That blade cuts both ways...."The presale numbers are probably fake."  It's all just wind and noise.
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Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
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HunterGatherer
on 29/04/2015, 04:11:34 UTC
Are you saying that because these purchases weren't transferred to the multisig address effectively in realtime that this is somehow problematic?  The woman said they would be transferred once per day, and I'm betting that tomorrow we will see that this is true.  Rather than debate this point, let just place a wager and then we can both zip it until tomorrow - what do you say?  What would you like to wager?
I'm saying they should be transferred from the original address that was used.  doesn't have to be in real time but there should be a link in the blockchain to when it did happen in realtime.  if that won't be the case, then yes... absolutely it is problematic because it means there is no proof those sales actually happened at all.  

I have no idea why they preferred to collect presale funds to unique addresses per transaction and then sweep to the multisig address, but who cares as long as the money gets there as they said it would?  As if you could prove that any of these transactions "actually happened" anyway?  Mine happened. So anyway, what is our wager?
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Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
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HunterGatherer
on 29/04/2015, 03:49:07 UTC

The answer to this question is also in this blog post: http://blog.neucoin.org/post/117444378516/guide-to-the-neucoin-presale. Each purchase request will generate a new, unique address to which the BTC can be sent. At the end of each day, all purchase amounts will be transferred to a publicly visible multisig address.

purchase amounts but not the actual purchases that we can track though the blockchain that happened at the time of the presale?  but instead  some off chain mixed transfer that could easily be a self purchase made to inflate the perception of demand? hmmm?

Are you saying that because these purchases weren't transferred to the multisig address effectively in realtime that this is somehow problematic?  The woman said they would be transferred once per day, and I'm betting that tomorrow we will see that this is true.  Rather than debate this point, let just place a wager and then we can both zip it until tomorrow - what do you say?  What would you like to wager?
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Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
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HunterGatherer
on 29/04/2015, 03:32:04 UTC
I am very sorry Sandrine that you are the frontman to this scam as all the heat will be on you once this is exposed. I sure hope you didn't reveal any personal info here. You have been duped sorry to say. I wish you the best!! Stay safe please.

At first I thought this was fearmongering but then I realized that this is funny HYPster.  BTW, Interesting user name.  Do you see yourself as a purveyor of hype?  
I'm trying to figure out, though, if you actually...possibly....believe that you know more about NeuCoin than this woman who does their PR!  No...it was just a joke.  Like if I were to make a joke......
"I am very sorry HYPster that you are the cuckold to your wife as all the shame will be on you once this is exposed. I sure hope you didn't reveal any personal info here. You have been duped sorry to say. I wish you the best!! Stay safe please."
That would be absurd right?
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Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
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HunterGatherer
on 29/04/2015, 01:57:30 UTC
Don't expect an answer. He seems to be one of their shills...
Nope, not one of their shills.  Just tired of hearing a bunch of guys agree with each others negative blather, as if your communal agreement makes what you say true.
There are some obvious facts, and it is also obvious that several people see these points. What you call "negative blather" is finding of facts. But well, you've sent your money to the Paradise of Money Launderers, so you must know better than everybody else.

But that's just it - the stuff I'm responding to is *not* fact.  I guess some is opinion, but so much of it is unsubstantiated it comes across as FUD.  Anyway, if you all just want to stew in your negativity then fine, it's your choice.  You should know that from someone who hasn't spent a ton of time here it sounds desperate and pitiful - like your last ditch effort in life is tied to Bitcoin's success, and that means the demise of any Altcoin. No matter what.  But if you plan to do this publicly you should expect a wake-up call every once in a while from people who approach life with an open mind.
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Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
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HunterGatherer
on 29/04/2015, 01:32:20 UTC
4000 BTC, I really hope this isn't a scam
It is.

Hi "scam confirmed",
So when did you stop beating your wife?

Regardless of whether or not that statement is true, it doesn't cost me anything to say it right?
And if I repeated it a bunch it puts you on the defensive.  Probably would affect how people think/feel about you.  So should I just say it if I want?

Why is it a "confirmed" scam?  Can you share details?
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Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
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HunterGatherer
on 29/04/2015, 01:18:11 UTC
Likely presale selfbuys or entirely imaginarey numbers to make the illusionary impression of demand for it. The oldest trick in the book.
Wow you're cynical!  I guess that's possible but why "likely"?  Especially give the list of angel investors?  I'll admit - I actually did buy some.

In crypto every presale is a scam until proven otherwise.

I understand the once-bitten-twice-shy feeling if there have been a lot of scumbags running scams in the digital currency community.  That said, I don;t think you can lump them all in the same bucket.  Or you can if you want, but that just means you'll never be an early adopter in a coin like this. 
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Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
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HunterGatherer
on 29/04/2015, 00:50:39 UTC
Don't expect an answer. He seems to be one of their shills...

Nope, not one of their shills.  Just tired of hearing a bunch of guys agree with each others negative blather, as if your communal agreement makes what you say true.
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Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
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HunterGatherer
on 29/04/2015, 00:43:09 UTC
I read their white paper.  What security features do you see?  What value have they added?
Perhaps I missed something.

Hi Jonald_fyookball,
I think there are a few but specifically the variable stake modifier was a smart change, shorter block time, and not using coinage to affect your liklihood of creating a block.  But the security enhancements are sort of the baseline of what everyone expects/needs from a coin.  The bigger benefit - and one I feel like not anyone can just "invent" - is the community they bring to the table.  They could drive adoption *fast*.  Time will tell, but their presale has already sold about 35% and they just started it this afternoon.
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Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
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HunterGatherer
on 29/04/2015, 00:12:10 UTC
Why doesn't everybody just fork Peercoin 10 times on their computer and be a multi-millionaire with a valuation of $30 million?   Why don't we give computers to impoverished people and tell them to fork Peercoin too?  Poverty could be ended tomorrow.

Can you hear yourself?  Did you read anything about the research they did to identify/quantify/improve issues with existing coins? (specifically around security).  In your dream world do these random Peercoin-forkers also have access to successful business partners with services that have tens of millions of monthly visitors?  This kind of comment just makes you sound uneducated or at least uninformed.  Maybe NeuCoin will succeed, maybe not, but do you really think that they've added no value on top of Peercoin?