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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 04/07/2016, 18:36:59 UTC
I wonder why leocoin explorer still shows transactions from old wallet    Smiley
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 08/04/2016, 09:28:28 UTC
leoxchange is deliberately holding and delaying leo deposits.

Any proofs ? Like screenshots ?

no I dont have any proof... yet.

friend of mine sent coins  there, and took them one day to apear on his account. than he made onother deposit. it was 24h from his last deposit but not 24h from when coins were acctualy on the exchange. now his account is locked. that's what he told me. i am sure he is not lying.

Unfortunate, he will have to wait until the time passes, than he will need to withdraw exceeded founds. Even if he withdraw sooner, transaction of that withdrawal will take place after "frozen" time pass. This is not written anywhere but LEO scammers will hold your coins and you will still have to withdraw. And they will take there fees along the way...
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 02/04/2016, 08:12:05 UTC
Again, I want to stress, that LEOcoin Foundation and the third parties, LEO Ltd. and the LEOxChange do not engage in buying and selling on their own account. Trading is neither pumped or influenced.

Almost all - if not all - premine has been distributed amongst members of the LEO community. This has been confirmed both by Dan Andersson, as by many LEO members.

The current movements in volume and price on the exchanges, does reflect the supply and demand in the market for LEOcoin.

When we keep on moving, we might or may not attract more attention. In any case, LEOcoin Foundation is glad to see some movement and hopes it will continue.

Dear LEOcoin Foundation,

Again you posting information that you CAN NOT back up with any evidence. Again you violate your own policy by speaking on behalf of LEO ltd and LEOxChange.

There have been "spikes" on LEOxChange and internal market from beginning. In early internal exchange, price has been adjusted every single day to keep the price up.

And another interesting question: Why can't LEO members deposit LEOcoins on internal wallet/internal exchange?
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 20/03/2016, 18:25:31 UTC
@LEOcoin Foundation

lol... it was a joke and you didn't get it! no surprise there...

please do not comment my posts if you are not asked to. You had your chance... Focus on the things Dan tells you to and keep that worthless gibberish to yourself. Thank you!

@Izi

that the marmot was aimed at yoda, was obvious, but thanks for showing your opinion about our efforts to inform this community. I shall comment on whatever post I wish, just as I allow that to others. And your joke was understood, apparently me triggering you likewise was not.

Your idea, that Dan would tell me what to do or write, is showing how strange your thinking is. It is the kind of exclusive thinking that presupposes all kind of unwarranted assumptions, most of them deliberately biased against the topic of this thread: LEOcoin. If calling the view of the LEOcoin Foundation 'worthless gibberish', is your opinion, I wonder what you are doing here at all.

In due time, I shall come back to your list of questions, but understand that there is a lot of information already out. The point is, that many do not believe them to be true, which I cannot change. Please refrain from getting personal, I have done nothing against you, or have anything against you. If we differ on how to appraise LEOcoin that is ok; how to look at things will always be a rather personal stance and for sure, LEOcoin Foundation is having a outspokenly positive view on LEOcoin. That the current price sucks, does not fundamentally change that, as the price shows the value of the LEOcoin in the eyes of the persons trading LEOcoin and who thus make the price. With regard to the Botnet dumpers motive - which is cashing in on the expense of others - the question remains in how far this current price-level actually shows anything relevant with regard to the future state of affairs. We will have to see until the POS mechanism is voted for and implemented.

@LEOcoin Foundation
You can speak for yourself but you will not make STUPID assumptions in my name! What seems obvious to you is as stated wrong and again you didn't get the joke at all so no need to explain your limited understandings of my posts that are not concern you. If we can respect your requests to not comment on some crap interview with Dan, than you can show your respect in same aspects!

Further on, is more than obvious you only provide information from Dan. Any question asked is not answered by you at all. Any truth that is exposed here about the LEO scam you simply ignore or deny even if there is clear evidence presented and that's exactly why I'm here! Main purpose is to warn people about the lies behind LEO. And since LEOcoin is STOLEN part of LEO as is LEOcrowd, I will continue to post here. I'm sure sooner or later truth will come out...

And again to last part.. You do NOT need to answer any of my questions. If you had any intention answering them, you would already done it.
As for LEOcoin, I can only hope for a CC like LEOcoin to succeed but honestly, i don't think it can. The whole LEO idea isn't bad at all, problem are greedy people behind it, MLM that is fail by design and available "tools" that are nothing more but a joke.

I do not need anyone to believe me. I will not loose nor gain anything from this. It a WARNING to newcomers to use there brain and check under the hood before investing any money in any LEO aspect!
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 20/03/2016, 09:15:25 UTC
@LEOcoin Foundation

lol... it was a joke and you didn't get it! no surprise there...

please do not comment my posts if you are not asked to. You had your chance... Focus on the things Dan tells you to and keep that worthless gibberish to yourself. Thank you!
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 19/03/2016, 11:28:19 UTC

I am sure after POS start and leocoin fix electrum wallet and dimon i can help leocoin get on 5+ more exchanges!!!!!

Ofcourse u can

Oh, turn2flush ...

"For her profit is better than the profit of silver. And her gain better than fine gold. She is more precious than jewels; And nothing you desire compares with her."

Think about that, we must ...

In potem svizec zavije čokolado v folijo...
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 09/03/2016, 13:36:52 UTC
@LEOcoin Foundation

Again...i dont care what you take and what you dont. I know LEO is a bust, and Dan an Co are running every LEO business there is, so go ahead, bullshit some more, its fun seeing someone try so hard to turn a lie into a truth  Cheesy Grin

Lying, lying, lying...... Grin Grin

But thats nothing new from LEO....Its just a way LEO rolls!  Cheesy Wink

We shall see. Nevertheless it would be pleasurable for this board if you would stop claiming things you cannot provide evidence for. You have been free - and will be - to express your concern regarding "Dan & co.", but for as far these actions/accusations are not LEOcoin related, please let it be.

@LEOcoin Foundation

And where is your evidence about anything you said or about any info you provided? That's right... You dont have it so goes for you to. Stop claiming things you do not provide clear evidence!
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 06/03/2016, 08:18:16 UTC
This looks absolutely legit... and it happens almost every day... Why?

http://s12.postimg.org/uqa0s78al/chart.jpg
from LEOxChange
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 27/02/2016, 17:33:35 UTC
I have almost 5000£ of credits for LEO products but absolutely nothing to spend it on

Can you not use it to buy some of the on-line courses that are offered by LEO ?

Would love to but I didnt go to school to be a salesman. I'm just not that stupid to believe that being a salesman will change my life on better. And that's what every single course is teaching you :/
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 27/02/2016, 17:03:20 UTC
Maybe it's best people check for themselves what all LEO is all about. I have almost 5000£ of credits for LEO products but absolutely nothing to spend it on and no way to use it for something else... Simply because all LEO is a scam!

So here is a code for 10£ pack. But be warned, you must register to use the code!

PAC: 43F62DF5YFE2FY4E
Serial Number: F00236536

If code is used already, I can send you another...
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 23/02/2016, 14:58:37 UTC
Over the next few days, I will post parts of the interview. Today part one.

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This interview will not be commented on, but comes as it is for your information only.

I would love to say thank you both for that lovely wall of text, but what information are you referring at? There ware no critical issues discussed or answered here, all info is old and does not reflect the real situation and who even wrote this questions?

It is clear to all now, that you do NOT answer any questions here regarding LEOcoin or LEO_anything but simply post what you are told to post.

I wanted to put few more questions to the list but since you are clearly avoiding the truth, it's pointless.


.: 17k registred users on LEOxChange : Over 190k merchants : Regulations? :.
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 18/02/2016, 19:09:06 UTC
Good initiative, Izi. Let's see if we can get more points added and make a kind of FAQ that we can use. With regard to currencies - irrespective or they are entirely digital or partly printed&minted, like FIAT - I tend to go along with the line Wittgenstein takes on meaning: the value of a currency is its use in the economy. Do you agree?

I do agree but this is not the case here. LEOcoin tends to be entrepreneurs currency. And in real world if you want to sell anything, you are obligated by law to pay taxes. So if we want to have usable currency, whole chain of trade down to paying expenses and taxes must be clear and most should be automated procedure. Or would you risk your profit to cover for that?
Unfortunately, today you cant even get a coffee without a bill that must clearly state price in FIAT currency. Or would you risk your company and make a trade?
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 18/02/2016, 17:49:42 UTC
So let's focus on LEOcoin than:

1. What is LEOcoin and who is it for?
2. What is its purpose?
3. What is advantage over FIAT currencys?
4. How is it promoted
5. Why was it premined?
6. Ware there any other parties involved in premine?
7. Where does "LEO internal market" fit in the story?
8. Why it took so long to make an LEOxChange and why we cant see this coin on other markets?
9. where does merchants fit in?
10. are there any tools that enable people to legally trade with LEOcoin (point of sale).

After short discussion of what LEOcoin should be, we'll continue on current state of the coin and it's future and we'll see if there's worth "waiting" for something to happen...

I also call other readers to add any questions about the coin so we can evaluate all aspects of it.
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 18/02/2016, 14:16:24 UTC

Many miners will not support POS solely mechanism, as they cannot mine this with their RIGs. It was expected that some miners, traders and LEO members would sell. This is what we see happening now. Fundamentally, LEOcoin Foundation sees the development of LEOcoin as positive, as what is going on now, could reasonably expected and thus does not come as a surprise.

For the same reason, we do not have much to comment, as the objections, the criticism on LEO Ltd. - which for the LEOcoin Foundation is a third party with their own individuality and business strategy - the scent of hopelessness or need to get justified in bashing LEOcoin. It is something that is natural when things are changing.

LEOcoin Foundation will asap publish parts of the interview with LEOcoin co-creator Dan Anderson. It will be about LEOcoin, not about his other activities. LEO Ltd. and Dan Anderson are as much committed to LEOcoin as they have ever been. The price simply shows the market sentiment and the attitude of those involved with mining, bashing, trading and supporting LEOcoin.

Follow your gut feelings, that is the only genuine advice I can currently give.

Can you please explain what is your role here? You keep avoiding reasonable questions by hiding behind some legal formalities that noone gives a shit about or you get offended for no reason at all. Any info you posted in last 2 month is worthless. Start giving some real info and answer peoples questions or hide behind your legal entities and stfu!
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 18/02/2016, 13:56:58 UTC
Dear Bario,

SHARING MY EXPERIENCES ...... A LOT of talk, no walk.

It is very interesting to have some with REAl experience.
In what way have you been disappointed?

LEO seems to be all about e-learing and they offer a lot of courses: Languages, marketing , entrepreneurship.
They claim to have World-top speakers and coaches.

Was the quality not ok ?

LEO IS all about e-learning... but learning what?! It's all about there business.. the MLM. So yes, you will find alot of learning courses on how to be a a successful salesman, how to not care about people saying NO to you and how to lie to people to pay for your profit. Titles of those courses says it all: "How to manage your boss", "Master of Persuasion", all set of "Top ten thing you need to quit to be..." and hundreds of other spiritual, motivational guides in all languages. It's online shop of all "wonnabe" important spiritual leaders that didnt succeed in real life.
So this MLM is simply a GAME for them about "Who will scam more people for money".
All other fancy things are just colors that makes all idea more attractive. That include LEOcoin, xchange, LEOcrowd, merchats,....) All those things are addition for there fraud made simply to invite more people to spend more money. LEO was NOT made to bring any1 fortune... in any way except MLM way. And you ask why they dont care?

Study there whole concept and tell me if there's ANYTHING worth investing in? Is there anything useful, they produced, thats worth mentioning?

For more than a year that I've been a platinum member, all I see are "conferences and seminars" all over the world. So important events, one after another. And answer you will always get served will be "Dan is busy doing XYZ, we will get back to you when we will have interview..."
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 01/02/2016, 14:53:14 UTC
The next step in LEOcoin’s evolution

LEOcoin intends to move from a Proof of Work (POW)/Proof of Stake (POS) to a solely POS mechanism. In this regard, I will today post the second of three updates to shed some more light on the reasons, motivations and timing. The source is the last lecture of Mr. Sohail Ramzan on Bali. I have summarized this and will state it as it is for your information only and not further discuss the contents of his presentation.

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Part two:

Details on the Proof of Stake mechanism

•   Instead of the random 20 LEO reward per block, it’ll be 1% of the LEOcoins that were staked
•   Every LEOcoin has equal chance for POS reward, based on age
•   Coin Age = Number of Coins * How Long Since They’ve Moved
•   Large batches of LEOcoin that were recently received have the same chances as small batches of LEOcoin that were received a month ago
•   Option to turn-off Staking process when you want to spend LEOcoins

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last part tomorrow


Can someone please explain the benefits of POS only mechanism? As I understand, PoW was a secondary purpose of mining to reward miners but the main reason of mining is to solve problems like double-spending, block validation, centralization,... So if people dont get rewards for mining, they stop... So who will solve the blocks? If so many users stop mining, what guaranty users have that LEO mining facility wont centralize it? With small number of miners, 51% share wont be that hard to reach...


http://www.righto.com/2014/02/bitcoin-mining-hard-way-algorithms.html
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 27/01/2016, 15:56:42 UTC
Who cares!

I see people having really difficulties understanding this all LEO idea... It seems you do need to know few basics about MLMs and business... I'm not an expert on any of those fields but if you participate in something long enough, you get the picture... Direct selling industry is not new and it's where all started.
Dan and Atif had some experience from the past that didn't work so they made new one with better idea. How about a product that doesn't need production line, no logistic problems, no expenses at all... But how to make it interesting? Lol..easiest thing for naive people, big rewards! So they made LearnEarnOwn platform. Problem was, once you got in and bought few of those tutorials, no one invested anymore. Here is where CC jumps in... Premine loads of coins, give them to people as joining rewards and add a way to the whole system for sweet unregulated money flow...
From here on, any website they have have its purpose and so does LEOcoin. And wherever you sign in your name and probably your bank account, you're part of that network.
LEOxChange have on one pair about 50k+ traffic/day... 1% fee? You do the math...
And every person involved in any of the LEO_*.*____, are members of LEO, with probably very high ranks. Ofc they are not employees of LEO.... I'm not neither but still am Platinum member and I can get payed from system... So they formally work for free? yes. So who pays the development and developers? Dont ask...
And it makes you wonder, if this virus/bot mining was damaging LEO, wouldn't they done something already by now? It's big thing but they rather invested time in X2? No hurry for basic tools that would enable merchants to actually trade?
Who cares! As long as I have the LEOcoins right?
I really wish everyone of you to make fortune out of this... Because if you will, so will I.
But there are many that don't just invest in LEOcoins, but in LEO, and there is real money involved.
What can you actually get out of LEO? If they convince every single person in the world to join and buy all that can be bought, you'll get a world of direct sells-men called entrepreneurs with no one to sell to and nothing new. Than what? You see, there's nothing they actually produce that's worth investing in. Now, this is why LSU, i mean LEOcrowd, was so interesting... This would actually give them something they can show and sell. I'm sure people feel comfortable posting ther ideas there.
But than again... who cares!
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 25/01/2016, 20:23:15 UTC
"LEOcoin is a big idea. It is designed to be a world currency and the currency of choice for entrepreneurs."

So you wait for "them" to do something so you can profit? Did you check who "them" are? Those men in ties that calls themselves entrepreneurs? You have no idea... It's simple MLM with one little exception. They dont sell any physical product. Once they take alot of money from people, they gain title. And there you have your entrepreneurs. And how they benefit from this? You pay them! Every product from leo including exchange, crowdfunding and merchant program are made to power this giant MLM... And you thing they will do something? lol.. They already did... they convinced enough people to participate... But dont forget.. you are the one paying for all of this, luxury houses and towers, conferences all over the world, and all the "high class shit" you dont even know about!
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 25/01/2016, 17:01:47 UTC
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Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation
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Izi
on 24/01/2016, 10:10:55 UTC

But here to be honest that merchats enter becouse of greedy LEO members all over the world and here LEO company did mistake they do that way and spend 6 milion leocoin for nothing!
Most merchants dont know anything!
 This was mistake lep company offer free leocoins and got nothing in return!!!!! Just see list of merchants you guts enter to receive free leocoins!

Not sure it was a mistake... It was there strategy to get that number... It's just another hook to lure people in.. You can listen hours of stories on how LEO is the next best thing, how big community it is, how many merchants already support LEOcoin, how some day, LEOcoin will be worth more than bitcoin, how there learning platform is best life changing trend...

Reality is a bit different. You can buy/sell LEOcoin on one crap unresponsive exchange, you can lease mining rig that will pay out less than if you make rig yourself and you can buy "spiritual guidance" to build MLM. Did I missed something?