I think it (AMBER) become accidentally junk
"If first business made tons of shit, it means: try more, somewhere is success waiting."
Suntri then suntri... It was hard to me to earn all these AMBER, I plan not to sell.

So... we need AMBER blockexplorer and then Dev, to fix what is fixable.
Can we put up some GPL stuff and host it somewhere so it becomes a Block Explorer?
It means probably dedicated hardware? with... what parameters to host the AMBER community until it becomes Suntri?
It means probably Master Wallet or masternode or something, from where BlockExplorer takes all the stuff?
What must be done that exchanges accept AMBER master node(s) and blockexplorer, what we must do?
And... has anyone seen Dev?
(I can sell and buy, i dont have clear picture about all technical details...)

The goal is to rescue all AMBER from exchanges and make network clean again so that everyone gets fresh, clean, synced and AMBER-network accepted wallet.
Clear picture for some months before transfering to Suntri platform.

Blockexplorer https://www.blockexperts.com/amber is on the wrong chain, as it contains negative AMBER balance. See Drays link some posts ago.
AmberTrade server(s) are on the wrong chain too - open https://www.blockexperts.com/amber and click to "nodes" - blockexplorer sync's with AmberCoin mooo-s (AmberTrade server(s)). @ the moment only one mooo left as seen there.
Fork started from C-Cex according to Kelsey, so C-Cex is on the wrong chain with AmberTrade and Blockexperts.
If AmberTrade fired Dev, who can put this powerful Triade to the right chain?

Ed:
I think I am on the right chain with my 2 wallets from 2015. No visible errors, all amounts before fork in/out are right (after fork only staking).
Getblockcount = 1895720 @ exactly 15:20 UTC, all synced, staking, 26/27 peers connected both.
Seems like only C-Cex/AmberTrade/Blockexperts are on the wrong chain?

AmberCoin fork happened before too.
Don't blame C-Cex - they can not operate with forked coin.

I have 20 peers, staking and had block height 1863481 @ 15:32:02 UTC

I see that there is no rush to fix coin - AmberCoin must working and back to C-Cex before change to the Suntri? tokens. Seems like tokens platform is not ready yet

I am waiting.
I like the project, I don't know why... I have never lost in my life in a long time. I am sure the production/raw materials market/stock rises and this rise is big. Epic. 1 BTC costs 2 kg (EU) Ag? This is destined to change. So far there is ok everything with Dev and Company for me. Shit happens, if we face it with dignity and behave patiently, we are winners.

I hoped to rise my presence @ Amber Trade shareholders from about 0.9% up to 5.1% (with my wife), but as you see, something happened.
I have resources and I can go through Lithuania-Ukraine (if there is point to film and photography something and some places - let me know!) to my summer vacation/car-race from northern lands to Greece/Türkiye/Iran trip.

Dev,
- https://www.blockexperts.com/amber# block explorer hosting contract ended today.
- Only one node (UK) has left, other(s) contract(s) ended probably too.
Is there any Company interest to renewals?

Only 1-2 of 10 startups are success, 2 go loooong way around to "find where is the damn profit" and 6-7 others die fast.
Seems like Amber Trade/AmberCoin is on the long route - Google says nothing intresting today about SUNTRI or CУHTPИ.
Relax and take beer or two (thousand) while holding AmberCoin.

This forum page starts with "Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money..."

Simple math, flat rate profit:
Coinitrage "200% in 4 days" = 100% profit in 4 days = 365 days/4 * 100% = 9125 % in year.
If you invest for example 100 USD, you get 91.25 times profit after year - 9125 USD

It goes better, with cumulative 4-day periods continuous (re)investment through 1 year looks like:
4 days = * 2 times the original investment
8 days = * 4 times
...
40 days = 2ˇ10 = 1024 times the original investment
...
180 days = 2ˇ45 = 35184372088832 times
...
365 days = 2ˇ91 = 2475880078570760549798248448 times
It is possible to invest 91 times with 4-day periods in one year: 365/4=91.25
Here we assume that all the profit money gets reinvested back.
So, investing 100 USD gives much more in cumulative, Coinitrage way:
247,588,007,857,076,054,979,824,844,800 USD profit after one year.

In 2013 there was 10,000,000,000,000 USD in existence (cash, accounts, checks, money market funds, savings accounts, CDs)
Let's assume that latest moneyprints and economic growth doubled the amount.
Let's add all derivatives, futures and other stuff, multiply the sum to 100 may be?
2,000,000,000,000,000 USD in existence...

So, just invest the 100 USD, after year buy the world, Moon and Jupiter... 

Early morning here, correct me if I made mistakes with numbers.
Calc made with USD - more realistic than abstract crypto values.

Seems like some misunderstanding between www.Amber-Trade.com staff and Capital Group www.thecapitalgroup.com new 51% investor? Or something wrong with countries level (Ukr/EU, Ukr/US)? If there is lack of competence doing business in Estern-Europe, there IS competence present doing successful business in Eastern-Europe. Just say it.

#!unseen calendar
 
Delay is massive, but there is no point to come here without nothing to say (company/Dev I mean) and give just some smalltalk. Only silence and good news are accepted 

This "major shareholders" thing is little overheating
I am sure nobody from https://www.blockexperts.com/amber# Rich List has any knowledge from roadmap. Except may-be newcomers, who may have some inside information.
Major shareholder (owns 51% of Amber-Trade) is company, Capital Group Ltd or LLC ?, and they have more than one Very Important Persons on board (as usually), so Dev and others call The One Major Shareholder (=Capital Group) "Major ShareholderS" - there are several people, persons, and they don't like to share their title-rank-degree (=Major Shareholder). So it becomes Major ShareholderS = the one major shareholder company with 51% of Amber-Trade shares (=Capital Group). Correct me if I am wrong.

Technically... there are many septembes coming... until something ends this possibility, probably something from this list:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
One sentence sell-now speech
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I hope all delays are 100% for securing Company's position in amber and financial market. Shareholders welcome all decisions made for continuity and profit of this business.

For the record - it was 11:26:04 PM - some assholes have invented "summertime". I hope they (inventors and their asslickers) die with shame for revenge of all the chaos coming from this useless timeshift.

Now it's about 00:30 and September has gone. Now I am little sad without roadmap we all waited to appear in September

Forum shows : September 30, 2016, 11:26:04 PM
but it must be UTC 00:00 + about 30 minutes.
I waited for roadmap.

Wow, seems like 1 MH/s AMBER's x13 = 0.5 - 1 AMBER/day ( https://amber.suprnova.cc statistics )
!bc 630*0.00002*1
USD 0.0126/day per MH/s (x13)
USD 0.0378/day per R9-270 (3 MH/s)
USD 0.0630/day per R9-280X (5 MH/s)
Ok, I have ZPM ( http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Zero_Point_Module ) and Thor's Hammer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mj%C3%B6lnir) for strangers and people who are asking "where the global warming comes from", but mining is not an option to fulfill my ~100k AMBER shortage

From LTC and DOGE through APP, PTS, MID, DASH(DRK) to AMBER - is this the end of personal cryptomining? It may be. Future generations don't even understand, what for was this thing
I am sure somebody needs desperately some Gigabyte r9-280x-s for Minecraft or Doom

How do you know? There are zero proofs about company or insider buy. (I can tell how company can cheaply buy back all the AMBER. Not in this way. I assume company knows the way too.)
Buyer can be somebody total "outsider" just earned bunch of BTC and now invests 5% of it in AMBER.
Future buyback we talked previously here was just one version of future.
What if ... after some weeks there will be announcement about droping AMBER project due to the financial difficulty or something similar? Who has certificate, can sell back with original price, others just can own AMBER forever. Another version of future

Company has stated that they make public announcement after they decide buyback and BEFORE they will actually start buyback.
I dont believe Amber-Trade risks to buy back AMBER silently without announcement. They do not have to make illegal things. They can just announce buyback and then buy up, announce that next Q will be loss - and then buy up, announce that new business operation has given USD200k damage (which is true) - and buy up. Only true things, people go to panic easily and sell for cents.
Ok, it's possible that some insiders (who know future plans) buy AMBER and Amber-Trade dont know nothing about these people... but nobody can do nothing against this.

From https://www.blockexperts.com/amber
...LX1qMA seems recently (last days or so) rised ~20 k AMBER
New accounts have relatively small Tx. For example ...AbpMN5, ...myGUppr, ...VY9uFW are little more than year old accounts. Tx rises mostly due to the staking and mining - many small amounts.

Amber-Trade status is dormant in UK registry.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09246220
It means that it doesn't operate in UK, just in register there, owns shared office and some little things more which are required to be in UK registry.

This is good known setup - main holding company is registered to UK, US, Luxembourgh or Switzerland to gain trust, get investments and to make major agreements. And real working businesses/companies, owned by holding company, are registered to local countries where businesses are due. Local companies can be registered through one or more tax-free "holding" or "management" company too.
In Eastern-Europe, Russia, Ukraine, Central-East, Africa this model may be sometimes the only way to escape unstable governments, fast changing laws etc (to rescue company/shareholders money and avoid robbery by (local) "law" and "lawyers"). ADD: Don't take this sentence personally. Was China in deep shit and were in Western-Europe only assholes. Everything changes with time and we can not be quilty for others have done.

And it means that no one can steal the money which is needed to run the business with profit. Not any lawyer ("seems easy money - big company"), not any shareholder ("lets eat and drink tomorrow today"). Every significant lawsuit ends with just changing the company. I am 85% sure @ this moment the money is needed to run the business, to fix shit made previously. Many things production/mining companies make, are just for self-defense. It includes defense of shareholders for themself.

And I am deeply disappointed that there is no communication from Amber-Trade side.
Say "Before the end of audit there is nothing. The audit ends in September." Everyone understands.
Say "We can not manage "litrovyi" "Nemiroff" and "Bulbash" from miner's neighbors... help!" Everyone understands and there are people within shareholders, who may help.

I think to try speed up (dividend) things with force ends with dropping the AMBER project by Amber-Trade. Why? AMBER project is just too troublesome for company - for a little money too much troubles. The main business works and why manage expensive crypto investment system if there is cheap money everywhere seeking to earn some % of dividends?

I think delays and changes are related to:
- in Russia and in Ukraine too, there is "pardak" (mess, disorder) everywhere, it means that for eyes of ordinary people all is just unbeliveable mess. But it works somehow. There are different rules for everything. If you don't know these rules, you are out of business and money.
- production/mining business is not clean and well-dressed IT or banking business. There are unexpected delays, big investments needs, big losses, every day changing regulations, people who are demanding salary in exact day of month... and big profits too, if the business can manage this chaos. If somebody has not working in/for production company and seen all this... don't invest.
- last change of owners can mean that new majority shareholder is making audit and regrets every day buying this may be overrated and overpriced business. There are may be millions written in papers, that turn to dust in real life. This kind of shit can take time to sort.
Anyway, these 3 factors mean for me, that today's delay is good for business and for my dividend and share price in future.

I think the main conflict here is - company is mining/production company (everything goes slow and steady, goods in stock are sold within years, big money circulates with months and years) and shareholders are crypto-investors (fast, every minute counts, 1000% profit in 88 seconds, small money circulates with seconds). Amber-Trade just concentrates on main business (which is good) and forgets to talk with hectic centholders (which is bad).

I think everyone can change, bunch of "whiny" shareholders and "asshole" company can work together to make more profit, if there is better communication present. Very good communication... because people are very different and the project itself (production/mining company cryptoshares) includes many conflict possibilities.

As you see, @ this moment I am not in boat to take legal actions.

With today's prices, I get 1 KG gold (pure gold metal 999.99%) spending XAUR in sum of about 90 USD or about 80 EUR?!?
Or something changed and that is not in ANN?

More than year old address, was about 0.7 or 0.8 mln or something like that @beginning and slowly rising. This shareholder's initial big buy is mentioned in thread too.
EDIT: Sry I'm talking from different, 1.2 mil address. It happens on Mondays... I looked to "2.6 mil" and automatically switched to biggest blockexplorer address which is shareholder.

In AMBER market page C-Cex says "302 600.74 AMBER total" on Sell Orders, 0.3 mil... it means that 2.6-0.3=2.3 mil AMBER just waits in C-Cex something? Can't be...
Where you see that address?