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Re: Bank account froze after selling btc (UK)
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Jo1992
on 25/08/2019, 17:12:42 UTC
Well based on this in the USA:


does this seem to be a problem to anyone but me?

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20190821.aspx

quote from above:

 "The following individuals have been added to OFAC's SDN List:
 
YAN, Xiaobing (Chinese Traditional: 顏曉兵; Chinese Simplified: 颜晓兵) (a.k.a. "YAN, Steven"; a.k.a. "ZHOU, William"), Wuhan, Hubei, China (Chinese Simplified: 武汉市, 湖北省, China; Chinese Traditional: 武漢市, 湖北省, China); DOB 25 Mar 1977; POB Wuhan City, Hubei, China; citizen China; Gender Male; Digital Currency Address - XBT 12QtD5BFwRsdNsAZY76UVE1xyCGNTojH9h; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 1Kuf2Rd8mDyAViwBozGTNYnvWL8uYFrkVo; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 13f59kUM5FU8MfTG7DCEugYarDhSD7XCoC; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 1P3ZfGFLezzYGg9k5SVzQmnjyh7nrUmF2y; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 1EpMiZkQVekM5ij12nMiEwttFPcDK9XhX6; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 1JREJdZupiFhE7ZzQPtASuMCvvpXC7wRsC; Chinese Commercial Code 7346 2556 0365; Citizen's Card Number 421002197703250019 (China) (individual) [SDNTK].
 
ZHENG, Fujing (Chinese Simplified: 郑福景; Chinese Traditional: 鄭福景) (a.k.a. "DENG, Gao"; a.k.a. "JIN, Gordon"; a.k.a. "ZHENG, Gordon"); DOB 11 Jun 1983; POB China; nationality China; citizen China; Email Address goldenchemical@live.com; alt. Email Address gordonzheng@qinvictory.com; alt. Email Address magicchemical@hotmail.com; alt. Email Address sales@globalrc.net; alt. Email Address 3507656950@qq.com; alt. Email Address zhengfujing@live.cn; Gender Male; Digital Currency Address - XBT 17ezuJoT3XBbdcwFZbkTnrXbup11F4uhiy; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 1DH2xDH7TngrDU6LXciprKCBKNcPA1xX8A; Passport G31920875 (China) issued 24 Oct 2008 expires 23 Oct 2018; Identification Number 310107198306111336 (China); Chinese Commercial Code 6774 4395 2529 (individual) [SDNTK].
 
ZHENG, Guanghua (Chinese Traditional: 鄭广華; Chinese Simplified: 郑广华); DOB 04 Nov 1955; POB Shanghai, China; nationality China; citizen China; Email Address zhenguanghua1955@outlook.com; alt. Email Address zhenguanghua1955@gmail.com; Gender Male; Digital Currency Address - XBT 33Kja69SQVc8kozpoP7Qw6HFtGxHkiWzTz; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3MkUNScqf21EcfWq6T4x2MFgBeSTqhB5t6; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 18uKfaUjgG52rVeXEi3wxnveww7zZuECtE; Digital Currency Address - LTC LaizKtS5DUhPuP1nTQcc83MS7HwK6vk85z; Passport E51809923 (China) issued 25 May 2015 expires 24 May 2025; Identification Number 310108195511041616 (China); Chinese Commercial Code 6774 1639 5478 (individual) [SDNTK].
 
The following entities have been added to OFAC's SDN List:
 
QINSHENG PHARMACEUTICAL TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD. (a.k.a. SHANGHAI QINSHENG PHARMACEUTICAL SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD.; a.k.a. SHANGHAI QINSHENG PHARMACEUTICAL SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD.; a.k.a. SHANGHAI QINSHENG PHARMACEUTICAL TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD.), Room 614, Floor 3, No. 1, Alley 468, New Siping Highway, Shanghai 201413, China; Room 614, Floor 3, Block 1, Lane 468, Xinsiping Highway, Fengxian District, Shanghai, China; Website www.qinvictory.com [SDNTK].
 
ZHENG DRUG TRAFFICKING ORGANIZATION, Shanghai, China; Website www.globalrc.net; alt. Website www.goldenrc.com; alt. Website www.toplabrc.com; Email Address MagicChemical@hotmail.com; alt. Email Address goldenchemical@live.com; alt. Email Address 3507656950@qq.com; alt. Email Address sales@globalrc.net [SDNTK].
 
 
 
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 If btc addresses are on a list and you sold  coin to them  you could be subject to forfit of the cash they wired to you.

I wonder  is there are lists in the UK  of tainted btc addresses and you sold a coin to one on the list?  If so you are never going to see the money.

I read this type of action "marking a btc addy as tainted"  as a real issue down the road.

Note the poster of the info is my alt account as I was not at my pc that does this account.


https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/12QtD5BFwRsdNsAZY76UVE1xyCGNTojH9h  99 in 6.5  left in

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1Kuf2Rd8mDyAViwBozGTNYnvWL8uYFrkVo 108 in 12.8 left in

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/13f59kUM5FU8MfTG7DCEugYarDhSD7XCoC 15.5 in 9.29 left in

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1P3ZfGFLezzYGg9k5SVzQmnjyh7nrUmF2y    1.353 in 0 left in



https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1EpMiZkQVekM5ij12nMiEwttFPcDK9XhX6   1,196.66 in 20.5 left in

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1JREJdZupiFhE7ZzQPtASuMCvvpXC7wRsC  317.029 in 0 left


I only did  6 of the btc ones on the list.


the single ltc one is very small

https://live.blockcypher.com/ltc/address/LaizKtS5DUhPuP1nTQcc83MS7HwK6vk85z/  1 in 0 left





But if you purchased a coin or some coin from any address above directly.
If you sold a coin or some coin to any address above directly.
If you sold gear to any address above directly.

My thoughts would be  you could have the cash or coins taken from you.

that list has 11 btc addies and 1 ltc addy.   yeah it is a USA list but   USA and UK have a lot of agreements in place.  I am trying to find more lists of BTC and LTC addies.  This could be a back cause of why the op lost their funds.  
 

I don't think it's directly to do with btc to be honest. I sold via local bitcoins so they wouldn't make the connection between since the money came from personal accounts rather than an exchange
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Re: Bitcoin Eats the World, or Not
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Jo1992
on 24/08/2019, 12:03:35 UTC
Bitcoin is finate. Meaning once 1 person has it all. Everyone else has nothing at all. That's not freedom. The more of a sole comodety one has the more power to his monopoly.

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Re: Bank account froze after selling btc (UK)
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Jo1992
on 24/08/2019, 08:13:11 UTC
Guys I'm not operating as a trader i wasn't buying and selling. I had btc. The price went up and I'm at a point in life where I needed cash. So I sold. That simple.

Anyway they have closed my account and returned money to source. No explanation. No clue to what source. The bank is Monzo sure I've said the name already but if not. Avoid!!
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Re: Do you believe stolen funds should be returned to their owner?
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Jo1992
on 23/08/2019, 09:20:33 UTC
Depends. Are the stolen funds being recovered from the theif or another victim who received them in exchange for btc or something? Are the bitcoins retrievable too.  If you take funds from the guy who sold bitcoins, with out returning the btc, law enforcement are essentially stealing from them. Its just moving the victim around. When in all honesty its the error of the victim /their financial institute that allowed access by the thieves. Without repercussions why would they bother to increase security in future. Maybe an insurance fund that covers 75% could be mandatory with the rest split between parties.
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Re: Bank account froze after selling btc (UK)
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Jo1992
on 22/08/2019, 19:48:41 UTC
i  enquiries. thse policies they follow have existed even before bitcoin

you might find that if funds are to be sent back to originator, then its because the originator has done a chargeback scam on you, to get your btc. and then get the £££ after/quote]


Money has been moved out of that account to my savings so surely they won't go into negative to return it so what would happen next if that is the case? Hopefully it's not that
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Re: Bank account froze after selling btc (UK)
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Jo1992
on 22/08/2019, 15:59:52 UTC
Yes I wish I hadnt read that now. Do you know how he ended up with 5 accounts closed?  There was an update at the top stating but I couldn't find out what led 5 been closed?

Dunno. That all sounds very weird to me. I've seen plenty of moans about crypto-related account closures but there've never been any problems beyond that one account.

The standard trajectory of stories like this is the real story gradually emerges in other posts and it turns out the OP was milking trillions through countless accounts. Maybe that was the case there.

Personally I'd never trust any challenger bank to not fuck me hard. They all seem to have 'advanced systems' that detect fraud when you spend 30p via contactless on a visit to a toilet on Paignton seafront for a piss.

Most of them operate on the grace and favour of real banks so they'll do anything not to offend them.

Thanks for the reply. Wish I had trillions lol. Back to hodling for now. Price has dropped to much and I don't want to risk another bank where I keep money anyway.

Will stay away from these shitty 'new' banks in future.

Thanks
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Re: Bank account froze after selling btc (UK)
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Jo1992
on 22/08/2019, 14:04:06 UTC
I'll check that reddit out. Its the NCA involvement that backed me up. And apparently 560000 SARs are issued a year, mostly to law abiding people. I know they're trying to stop laundering etc but to be when the ratio of innocent to criminal is so high its quite shocking its legal practice. I think with monzo being the new kid on the block they may be a little overzealous.

I think these joke banks are going to be considerably twitchier than real ones. There are countless stories of people getting frozen for sending their mates some money or buying crypto p2p through it.

This is the forum you probably want - https://community.monzo.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/UKPersonalFinance/comments/8r96i1/urgent_help_monzo_closed_my_account_immediately/  this thread is a little alarming. It looks like Monzo sent money to the people who paid OP for coins through LBC without bothering to check anything. Best to keep a close eye on progress.

Yes I wish I hadnt read that now. Do you know how he ended up with 5 accounts closed?  There was an update at the top stating but I couldn't find out what led 5 been closed?

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Re: Bank account froze after selling btc (UK)
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Jo1992
on 22/08/2019, 13:31:30 UTC
As has been said UK banks aren't allowed to give any info.. And try calling monzo anyway.. Their automated system just hangs up on you after 20 seconds saying they are busy. Piss take really. So they can't ask/tell me anything hence why I'm looking for ways to offer evidence to speed up the process without being asked.

I'd moved most of the money to my savings account ba 100 so I'm not really bothered about them sending money back to source as they don't have it to send. Just the black mark currently against my name. Like everyone else I've got other problems going on my energy should be focused on
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Re: Bank account froze after selling btc (UK)
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Jo1992
on 22/08/2019, 12:46:32 UTC
Bank was Monzo. I understand why they froze it but opening a business account to sell a personal possessions isn't the answer. I'm not buying and selling. Just withdrawing my capital gains.. Or was.

I'll check that reddit out. Its the NCA involvement that backed me up. And apparently 560000 SARs are issued a year, mostly to law abiding people. I know they're trying to stop laundering etc but to be when the ratio of innocent to criminal is so high its quite shocking its legal practice. I think with monzo being the new kid on the block they may be a little overzealous.


Would be good to hear from those that have already been through it
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Bank account froze after selling btc (UK)
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Jo1992
on 22/08/2019, 10:48:52 UTC
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Has anyone ever had their bank account frozen after selling bitcoin? How was the process of getting it resolved? How long did it take? Any advice that I can speed the process up?

OK so sold around 5k worth via local bitcoins, various buyers. Few days ago my bank was frozen. Got zero help or answers or even questions from the bank. So I've done some googling and come to the conclusion that a SAR has been submitted due to sudden increase in money. Never really used this account and did so to separate it from salary for when tax season comes around in easy for me to know what is what. (probably not wise in hindsight)

So from my googling what the bank is calling "account specialist" is actually the nca deciding if I'm dodgy Dave or not and whether to investigate further. Nothing to hide so no worries there. Initially frustrated I requested my official complaint raised and have since had a response (again no info or help) but armed with the new information about SAR and the fact that legally cannot tell me anything I've replied with screenshots of my transactions of sales in hope it assists and speeds things along as they will then know where and why.

Is there anything else I can do to speed this up? I've read the hold is initially 7 days, followed by 30 and can be extended to 6 months. Obviously the bank cannot ask me for evidence(or anything else) due to the law but is there anything voluntary I can do? Really is a crazy system that you are kept in the dark.. While they also seem to investigate in the dark
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Re: Any exhanges still allow btc-alt/privacy coin without sending kyc?
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Jo1992
on 07/07/2019, 17:44:14 UTC
Binance and KuCoin should be a good option. You shouldn't go through any verification as long as you're not withdrawing more than 2 BTC per day.

Thanks will check those out
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Any exhanges still allow btc-alt/privacy coin without sending kyc?
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Jo1992
on 07/07/2019, 17:12:00 UTC
As above. Which are best in regards to fees?
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Alternative way to buy btc with cash in UK now that lbc stopped cash deposits??
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Jo1992
on 01/07/2019, 18:40:17 UTC
A side from meeting up with dodgey dave down an alley way. Is there a safe alternative? Another reputable online escrow provider?
I know they're btc atms now but fees a pretty high on acale