Did you read the whitepaper? I dont think that its a scam.

For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                       5
12.) ICO not stopped yet, still going on for one month.                                                                                                 4

                                                                                                          
UPDATE TO POINT 9:
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY MOSCOW STATE UNIVERSITY
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY UNIVERSITY OF BRASILIA
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY DUBNA UNIVERSITY


Some pleasend stats. This tread got clicked 1104 times. The most watched video on socratescoin youtube channel (Nauka, who are we?) got clicked 55 times. Everyone can decide by his own if socratescoin raised 11M$ seriously.

Guys please quit your activitys you expose yourself more and more. Everybody who read this tread sees whats going on. Your stupidness is not even rediculous anymore, no it hurts and i feel sorry. I have just to copy paste and you must coordinating to make your job. At the end everybody with more than 2 cells in his brain sees your similar comments and intentions. Its just i dont know. But of course, people which is not ashamed to trick, lie and betray is not ashamed even when everybody is laughing about them.  Grin Im just interested in how so many criminal fools find each other. Everyone involved in this project has to be criminal. The programer of the website which updates the faked raised amounts, Mario Pretone, even him has to be criminal minded. I think all of them, Manuel Batista, Pirmin Troger, Alfred Hasselbacher, Mark Jeffery, Thomas Rivette, Luis Gerardo Saldaña Ledesma, Julia Kirchler, Mario Pretone, Virginia Salas Kastilio,  Oscar Perriman, Lettice Cook, Jacobo Genuardi and Adriano Spadaro, all these guys connected to each other hoping to rip off as much gullibly people as possible.

For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                        5

UPDATE TO POINT 9:
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY MOSCOW STATE UNIVERSITY
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY UNIVERSITY OF BRASILIA
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY DUBNA UNIVERSITY
 



If i forget anything feel free to complete.

 Grin Grin Grin Obviously the members or employes of socratescam try to drawn negative accusses with spamwaves on btctalk. As you see they always try to fill pages with posts of accusses with their spam until a new page appear. They are suddenly active at the same time, the artificial activities can be looked up in following tim 

1. spamwave: 23.03  8:44am-  3:16pm
2. spamwave: 24.03 5:17pm-  8:08pm
3. spamwave: 25.03  2:01pm-  2:17pm
4. spamwave: 26.03  11:11-    7:28pm
5. spamwave: 27.03 10:01am- 2:06pm (probably not over yet)
6. spamwave: 27.03 7:23pm-  31.03 8:55am

To proof that im right i omited reposting intentionally. And look, spampost were less and stoped 31.03. Now it will start again

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts and comments. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of spamposts.

Guys please quit your activitys you expose yourself more and more. Everybody who read this tread sees whats going on. Your stupidness is not even rediculous anymore, no it hurts and i feel sorry. I have just to copy paste and you must coordinating to make your job. At the end everybody with more than 2 cells in his brain sees your similar comments and intentions. Its just i dont know. But of course, people which is not ashamed to trick, lie and betray is not ashamed even when everybody is laughing about them.   Im just interested in how so many criminal fools find each other. Everyone involved in this project has to be criminal. The programer of the website which updates the faked raised amounts, Mario Pretone, even him has to be criminal minded. I think all of them, Manuel Batista, Pirmin Troger, Alfred Hasselbacher, Mark Jeffery, Thomas Rivette, Luis Gerardo Saldaña Ledesma, Julia Kirchler, Mario Pretone, Virginia Salas Kastilio,  Oscar Perriman, Lettice Cook, Jacobo Genuardi and Adriano Spadaro, all these guys connected to each other hoping to rip off as much gullibly people as possible.

For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                        5

UPDATE TO POINT 9:
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY MOSCOW STATE UNIVERSITY
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY UNIVERSITY OF BRASILIA
AFFILIATION REFUSED OR NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE PROJECT BY DUBNA UNIVERSITY
 



If i forget anything feel free to complete.

 Grin Grin Grin Obviously the members or employes of socratescam try to drawn negative accusses with spamwaves on btctalk. As you see they always try to fill pages with posts of accusses with their spam until a new page appear. They are suddenly active at the same time, the artificial activities can be looked up in following tim  

1. spamwave: 23.03  8:44am-  3:16pm
2. spamwave: 24.03 5:17pm-  8:08pm
3. spamwave: 25.03  2:01pm-  2:17pm
4. spamwave: 26.03  11:11-    7:28pm
5. spamwave: 27.03 10:01am- 2:06pm (probably not over yet)

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts and comments. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of spamposts.

Its a bad made scam. You are right there is just one  word which would have been dumber to choose, university. University university. In facebook and other social media they spread wisdom. "Believe in yourself", "keep working hard", "never give up"...and many other pseudospiritual statments, which are not even wrong. But to hear it from people which dont even trust itself to be able to master life in a honest way, people which has to trick and harm others for their own success, people which is not even able to build a serious scam, which try to manipulate instead of fighting and defending, how ridiculous and ironic is that? This people try to cheat and betray.  In the nature you call this kind of species parasits.

For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                        5

If i forget anything feel free to complete.

 Grin Grin Grin Obviously the members or employes of socratescam try to drawn negative accusses with spamwaves on btctalk. As you see they always try to fill pages with posts of accusses with their spam until a new page appear. They are suddenly active at the same time, the artificial activities can be looked up in following tim  

1. spamwave: 23.03  8:44am-  3:16pm
2. spamwave: 24.03 5:17pm-  8:08pm
3. spamwave: 25.03  2:01pm-  2:17pm
4. spamwave: 26.03  11:11-    7:28pm

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of spamposts.

For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                        5

If i forget anything feel free to complete.

  Obviously the members or employes of socratescam try to drawn negative accusses with spamwaves on btctalk. As you see they always try to fill pages with posts of accusses with their spam until a new page appear. They are suddenly active at the same time, the artificial activities can be looked up in following tim  

1. spamwave: 23.03  8:44am-  3:16pm
2. spamwave: 24.03 5:17pm-  8:08pm
3. spamwave: 25.03  2:01pm-  2:17pm

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of spamposts.

For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this) 
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                        5

If i forget anything feel free to complete.

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of nonsense spamposts. Obviously they try to drown the negative facts. Like already mentioned instead of answear or fighting arguments.   

For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)  
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5
11.) Suddenly strange activitys on btctalk. Obvious planed actions. Accounts are new or making many post in other threads
      without any weighty content.                                                                                                                        5

If i forget anything feel free to complete.

There a several possibilities to buy btctalk accounts. I am pretty sure socratescoin is a scam so i will repost this investigation periodically after waves of nonsense spamposts.  

Suddenly so much movement in a single day.  Funny.

No i didnt see before MrsPiggy about your conversation with Batista. Good job! You expose them realy badly , not just as scamer but even as totaly incompetent idots: Ginis try to gather people for downvoting is hilarois and a realy bad red flag. While Batista try to tackle it on a serious way but making many many mistakes and contradictions. The guys didnt expect that much resistance . They just think how supersmart they are and how stupid the rest of the world. Puting less then 100$ in making a webpage and whitepaper and expecting to raise 47M$.

For new people reading this tread. I will enumerate the red flags me and MrsPiggy researched. In this tread and in the following https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7ygz0b/socratescoinio_sapis_very_likely_to_be_a_scam/ you can find all statements. I will give each statement a personal subjective scam indicator vote from 1 to 5. 1 is little red flag 5 is scam evidence.

1.) Website and channels launched after ico start.                                                                                                 4
2.) Whitepaper copy paste with many actual mistakes                                                                                            3
3.) Informations of the involved organisations (Nauka) is rare or not tracable or launched during ico                                4
4.) People involved comes from or had connections to dark activitys even proofed scams (Hasselbacher, Kozlevčar)           4
5.) Website is programed very simple, no connections to blockchain apis where anybody can proof money raised is seroius  3
6.) After asking to disclose the raised amount on the btc eth chains no answear. (Its very simple to do this)  
    But having time to write long texts for excuse other arguments                                                                             4
7.) Registrationaddress not existant                                                                                                                     4
8.) Each serious project presentation movies content try to answer the 3 following main questions: 1. What is the problem?,
     2.How will the problem get solved by the project?, 3. How does the investor benefit? In socratescoin presentation
     movies you just see people fliping coins and drinking vine. Looks like a bad joke for a potential investor                       2
9.) They claim to have partnership with big known organisations. After asking this organisations and affiliation get refused
     by them, moving references from website. (One for now but probably more coming soon)                                          5
10.) Instead of fighting arguments they try to manipulate cirical statements on treads                                                  5


If i forget anything feel free to complete.

Do i see right? Did they remove unesco as offical partner from their landingpage? LOL. Can anybody ask the universities of moscow, dubna and brasilia. I cant neither speak russian nor portugese. I think slowley the most naive investor is recognising that socratescoin is a hilarious bad made scam. Instead of fighting our arguments here they adapt their statements in whitepaper and website.  LOL or  i dont know.

Thx MrsPiggy. You do a very good job! Hope these guys get what they deserve.

@mrs. Piggy. I couldnt find any relation between Troger and Hasselbacher before. There is an Austrian cyclist named Rene Haselbacher. In a forum there is a thread about him and spandex pants. Maybe you saw this.
@mr.Troll Yes your post gave me the initial idea to make a research about teammembers and ponzishemes. I know that the ponzicommunity is moving from one ponzi to the next. From one froud to the next...

I got an answear of UNESCO. My mail:_______________________________________________________________________________ ____

Dear unesco,

in the internet i found a project which claimes to have a partnership with the unesco. There is actually an ico running which want to collect almoust 50M$ for educational projects. In my opinion its a scam. Can you conferm that or conferm that the partnership with the unesco is real? The projects name is socratescoin. Webpage: www.socratescoin.io. Thank you!

Kind regards

_______________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________

Answear from unesco:

Dear Mr X,


I cannot confirm affiliation with UNESCO and recommend utmost cautious for these unregulated activities.


Financial regulators usually recommend avoiding unregulated financial products. Furthermore, as a thumb rule, no investor should invest in a product he does not perfectly understand.


Best regards,

_______________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________


The guys have a new whitepaper: http://coinwoot.com/wp-content/uploads/NAUKA_WORLD_paper.pdf  congratulations. As i mentioned in a previous post they confused the scientists and the sciences.



As you see i did not continue with enumerate mistakes, made just ... In this new whitepaper the guys didnt mention each scientist i told anymore. But they assingn still marie curie to biology / health /medicine. LOL. I hope everybody see now how incompetent and simply stupid these people is. The sad thing, we are showing them to build a serious scam. In the future they will be advisors for better scams as they cant build anymore scams on their real names after this thing here. Thats im afraid about.

A research about Pirmin Troger.
There are some footprints about Troger in the internet. Obviously he tried or tries to build different buisnesses. For example he has a youtube account where he loaded up videos which promote a sort of special screen protectors for mobile devices. He has 2 fb accounts one is probably related to the buisness with the screenprotectors. The uploaddate of the videos and the setup date of the account are more or less corresponding. Actually he seems to be from north of italy where a small german speaking minority is living. On the other hand i saw information that he tried to build a company 'cp21' in Austria. (https://firmenbuchauszug.at/Firmenbuchinformation/255DFF0CF89F1D) As shown in the web he was agent of the company lavavitave which sells controversal pills with a special stone for health. As i understand they use a mlm marketing concept. I would not evaluete it as a ponzisheme.
Furthermore i can proof that Troger had or has at least connections to people involved in ponzisheme projects. His cp21 company is registratet to the following emailaddress: ea1@einkommensarchitekten.eu. I checked for a website and i found it. www.einkommensarchitekten.com. Einkommensarchitekten means architect for income or income builder or something like this. In my words they want to show how to generate money. On the website are just 2 people for now, but if we go back in time we see there were 5 in total. Also Troger was member. The ea1 in his emailaddress probably means einkommensarchitekten1. Perhaps he is one of the leaders of this group (nr1). The waybackmachine showes a snapshot of august 2016.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160811065208/http://www.einkommensarchitekten.com:80/ Troger is on the right.
The team claims to create a perfect life with financially freedom for their customers. On the website the admit to do networkmarketing. 'We know, that you know, that we have, what you need'. The sentence scares me. One of the teammembers was on a 'my advertising pays' conference in germany. https://www.xing.com/profile/Patrick_Profanter. Just a convinced involved person posts the event on his xing profile. My advervising pays was a meanwhile colapsed ponzisheme with a huge number of victims. In my opinion the guys try to recrute new affiliates to fill their own pockets. The choice of the words and terminology reminds me on typical ponzisheme publicity methods. 'We change your life, we make you rich... blablalba'
To me its strange that Troger was involved 2016 in this einkommensarchitekten thing. 2017 he obviously tried to build a buisness with the screenprotector (maybe cp21 (cristall protector???) is related to it) and suddenly end of 2017 he is in the excecutive team of a project which claims to have already started back in 2000. Regarding this research, the costa rica conference assumtion made from Mrs. piggy is plausible in my opinion. I try to investigate the project. I admit that i cant 100% proof thats a scam but im pretty sure. I have to wait for the answear of the unesco for a clear proof. Or socratescoin proof me wrong with a disclose of the addresses with the raised funds. That will not gonna happen.

There is not even a formula. They just put the rough number for each value in the sourcecode on the server. You see the pure values parsefloat(x 

Assingning the scientists to the wrong siences (Hippocrates -> Physicist, Tesla -> Mathematician, Faraday -> Chemistry....) is not a red flag but it implicates a lot of incompetence. We have here a project which claims to be the coin of education (whatever that means) and they are not able to sort mankinds most famous scientists in the right way. Even too lazy to google it. It seems they think, lets do easy money, our investors are stupid anyway so we dont have to write a convincingly whitepaper.
The bitcointalk thread was launched after the ico started. Normaly project start discussions on forums a few months before the ico beginns to answear questions...
You are right mr.Troll. Their whole behavior reminds me on the pr of the mlm ponzishemes which i investigated a lot in the past (Onecoin, Habcoin, My Advertising Pays, Kairos, starad24 <- all colapses meanwhile). This brings me to Pirmin Troger. He claimes to be an Networkmarketing professional. Most of this mlm are ponzishemes. So i will do some research about him.

I find it strange that the raised amount is written directly in the sourcecode. So they update it manualy. Its not any connection to a ethereum or bitcoin node or nodeinterface. Very unprofessional. Everybody can write in the sourcecode a not proofed number.
      
Excerpt of the sourcecode of socratescoin.io website

function setContributed(){
         var hardCap = 46900000;
               var percent = (parseInt(8711330.0) / hardCap) * 100;
               $("#progress_bar span").css("width", percent+"%");
          $("#raisedsofarUSD").text("$"+parseInt(8711330.0).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ","));

setContributedBTC();
      function setContributedBTC(){
               $("#raisedsofarBTC").text(parseFloat(477.61).toFixed(2).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ",")+" BTC");
      }
      
      setContributedETH();
      function setContributedETH(){

               $("#raisedsofarETH").text(parseFloat(3649.11).toFixed(2).toString().replace(/\B(?=(\d{3})+(?!\d))/g, ",")+" ETH");
      }

I had a short conversation on facebook with one of the leaders. After deleting a bad comment on facebook he wrote it started.
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___________________________________conversation start________________________________________
Socratescoin:
Hi! if you are such an advocate of blockchain and its transparency then lets hop on a call for all the things you did not get IF you actually read the whitepaper and understood any!
and then go to comment it with a reddit post which has no actual proof and all will be answered and addressed!
Me:
just give me the eth adress of the erc20 tokens and the contractaddress which handle the distribution of the tokens. The proof that you raised already 8M+$ then we can continue discussion.
Please there is a bitcointalk threat. Let do an open discussion
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2937986.0

Socratescoin:
thumb up.

One day later

Me:
still waiting for your answears on btctalk. Answear to the last post please.

Socratescoin:
I’m travelling to Bangkok and Dubai!

And the questions will all be answered as mentioned and my PR team is getting all ready!

And do not know your hurry as you claim and do accusations without proof and knowing!

Have a great day! ?

Me:
Of course you dont ???For you it is better that nobody does research on your scam and that you can catch as much people as possible. You can also delegate your job of answearing questions on your partners. I participated in a lot of icos. usualy serios teams answear on btctalk immediately as they are interrested to enlight the community. Your behavior (i am travelling to bangkok instead, how rediculous is that???) is a further red flag in my opinion. ??

Socratescoin:
You can research as much as you want!
And I even reply to your comments and asked you to jump on a call!
And can show you all!

Me:
I will post our conversation in btctalk let continue there please
please answear in btctalk why to you have time to answear here?

Socratescoin:
Because I’m on my phone and asked you gently if you want to jump on a call and I can clear all your questions!
Even if I do not have to!
If you keep attacking
And I answered to you personally!
Me:
no i want that you do it for the public not like in the article your cofounder did. CC is a community thing ok. Its not only me having those questions. Each  conscientious experienced investor has those questions...

Socratescoin:
I answered to you personally as you claimed and give accusations without proof! And asked if you want to hop on a call!

Me:
ok lets continue on btctalk
__________________________________end of conversation_______________


Please just proof that you rised more then 8M$ already. That is very easy, its fastly done and a big proof. We dont even have to talk a lot about then. I find thats a good solution. If you are able i will revoke my accuses. You have just to disclose the addresses of which you are owner of. Sign the following text with the related private keys (without quotation marks): 'We from Socratescoin will singn this text for proof' and thats it.

Not answearing all the time, trying so gain time its a strategy witch i experienced in a lot of scamprojects during the sensible phase of the ico. Of course its better for you . A well known one was beth.jp. Last year. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1921164.0

Greez

Sorry guys your project is very unknown in relation to the odem project and you already raised almost twice as much. That seems very strange to me. Can i see at least the contract address or the erc20 tokens? I did some research about the team and i saw Dr. Alfred Hasselbacher was involved in many suspecious things like sellig dietpills. https://www.gesund-heilfasten.de/diaet/blog/zyloslim-mitoslim-nuvocleanse/ This quack pretend to be the founder of a big movement. Lol. I wrote an email to unesco for proofing if they are realy a partner of this strange project. I will post the answear here. Please dont invest before guys many, too many red flags in this ico. Im pretty sure also the showed raised amoúnt on their website is faked.

I m looking already for a longer time for a oportunity to invest money in education. As there are not many options. Today the odem.io ico is launching. I am investigating that project as well. Your whitepaper is not that clear as i dont know what exactely are you going to do with the tokens. How do they generate value? Just on free market trading? Which exchanges are you going to be listed on? I saw that you already raised >7M$. That is strange to me because you dont make a lot of publicity such other projects do for their icos. Can you proof that you already raised that money and expose the addresses where the eth or btc are on it? Would create a lot of confidence. Thx.