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What is the PHONE NUMBER/EMAIL for Mt. Gox Poland?
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JustGotGoxed
on 04/03/2014, 09:13:01 UTC
I have an 8 thousand euro SEPA transfer to Mt. Gox Poland that had NOT yet been credited to my Mt. Gox account when the site went down.

Meaning it should still be with Mt. Gox Poland.
My bank says they cannot get contact with the receiver and therefore cannot get the funds paid back. So obviously I would like to get contact with the receiver.

I know where I wired the money:
MT. GOX POLAND INC. SP. Z O.O.
     PLAC POWSTAŃ CÓW WARSZAWY 2
     00-030  WARSZAWA
     POLAND

Therefore I want the phone number AND email address for the above, please? I have read other threads on here but dont see any actual phone number listed.
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Re: Will customers who have FIAT at Mt. Gox be able to withdraw their FIAT currency?
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JustGotGoxed
on 02/03/2014, 05:53:01 UTC
If you deposited very recently, your best recourse may be trying to reverse the wire with your bank.

I already initiated that, but if i leads nowhere then what?
I just wonder if it would have any legal consequence that they have the money but that its not "fully in their system" - i.e. it hasnt yet been credited to my user account. Would that give me more of a right to receive the money back, instead of it going to some creditors?

In legal-speak, if the money isnt yet in my user account then I cannot be regarded yet as an "unsecured creditor" and that would land me in another category than the rest of the one million mt. gox customers who may not get much or anything back?
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Re: Will customers who have FIAT at Mt. Gox be able to withdraw their FIAT currency?
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JustGotGoxed
on 01/03/2014, 12:38:12 UTC
In this text it says the fiat has also disappeared. Which seems impossible since the fiat should be in a bank account. How could a hacker hack away the fiat also ?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z7krg/japanese_newspaper_asahi_shimbun_has_50_billion/cfr8f61

I see theres a phone number listed there, is that a Japanese phone number, does it belong to Mt. Gox??
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Re: Will customers who have FIAT at Mt. Gox be able to withdraw their FIAT currency?
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JustGotGoxed
on 01/03/2014, 08:09:04 UTC
Well, DOES IT MATTER THAT THE MONEY I WIRED TO THEM HAD NOT YET BEEN CREDITED TO MY MT GOX ACCOUNT BY THE TIME THE MT GOX WEBSITE WENT BLANK (MT GOX WENT DOWN)?
Presumably it is either at MT Gox Poland bank account (euro SEPA transfer) or somewhere else at Mt Gox but NOT in my Mt Gox account under my name.

I already sent a notice to my bank to TRY to get the wires back, but the wires were sent some time ago and I can only hope? They were sent a while ago, but had NOT yet been fully processed by Mt. Gox - i.e. had not showed up in my mt gox account by the time the site went blank.
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Re: Will customers who have FIAT at Mt. Gox be able to withdraw their FIAT currency?
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JustGotGoxed
on 28/02/2014, 17:36:23 UTC
What Im really curious about is whether the funds at mt gox will be treated as a pool or whether they will differentiate between "these usd belong to client a, those belong to client b and from client b there are 40% missing and from client a there is 10% missing".

If you deposited usd in 2011 and every dime is missing, gone poof, while I deposited the same amount just a few days ago and every cent is there - should I get 50% of the total and you the other half or should I get all of it and you nada?
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Re: Will customers who have FIAT at Mt. Gox be able to withdraw their FIAT currency?
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JustGotGoxed
on 28/02/2014, 17:09:13 UTC
Actually, this brings up a good question.  We know that Gox is short of BTC, but are they missing fiat as well, and if so how do they explain it?

Yeah, no shit. I dont understand why people act like this is not a question worth asking...!
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Re: Will customers who have FIAT at Mt. Gox be able to withdraw their FIAT currency?
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JustGotGoxed
on 28/02/2014, 17:00:12 UTC
If there will be something left for users, it will be paid out but I doubt fiat ballances has priority over bitcoin ballances, bitcoins have fiat IOU value as well

Hopefully we get at least something back

I dont get it. If someone accepts a deposit and hold fiat currency for you, and they still have it, how the f*** can they legally deny to pay that money which is mine and which they have?Huh? I dont get it, sorry!
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Re: Will customers who have FIAT at Mt. Gox be able to withdraw their FIAT currency?
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JustGotGoxed
on 28/02/2014, 16:54:12 UTC
You're screwed.  No bitcoin - No fiat.  Write it all off and move on. 

I dont see how that makes any logical sense, so please explain.
If they have the money, does it not still belong to me?

One or more individuals who may or may not be affiliated with Mt. Gox have taken the bitcoin and fiat that belonged to the investors.


Well if that a lot of fiat is missing why dont we hear about it? All I read is that the bitcoins have been "hacked" - theres no (?) talk of any fiat being stolen?
But heres the thing, I will admit (and yes this will make you think Im some total idiot), that I actually wired the fiat to them just a few days ago and by the time the site went dark the money had still not been credited to my account! Sorry, I know, I just didnt know enough about the state of affairs at mt gox at the time and nor do I know much about bitcoin...

So, assuming the theft of fiat (if there was any??) happened a while ago, then my money is still there, on their books.

My question to you all then is: Does mt. gox have the legal right to "confiscate" these eur and usd and use them to pay their creditors? Or otherwise do they have the right to not pay it back to me, or force me to share the loss with all the other customers as they simply dont have enough money on their books to pay back all the customers funds?

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Re: Will customers who have FIAT at Mt. Gox be able to withdraw their FIAT currency?
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JustGotGoxed
on 28/02/2014, 16:43:08 UTC
You're screwed.  No bitcoin - No fiat.  Write it all off and move on. 

I dont see how that makes any logical sense, so please explain.
If they have the money, does it not still belong to me?
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Will customers who have FIAT at Mt. Gox be able to withdraw their FIAT currency?
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JustGotGoxed
on 28/02/2014, 16:33:36 UTC
I just have ONE question, because this applies to me. I have a lot of eur and usd there, and a little bitcoin, but mostly FIAT!

Will customers who have FIAT at Mt. Gox be able to withdraw their FIAT currency?

So, with 850k bitcoin apparently "missing" - does that mean that I wont get my FIAT back? Are they going to steal my fiat and pay back their creditors with it?
Are all clients going to share the loss, or is it only the bitcoins that are missing that will not be withdrawable? Or will simply all of it, even the bitcoins still there not go back to the customers because they will pay it to the creditors?

I hope someone with a good understanding of all of this stuff, can tell me what is most likely.