If Bitcoin becoming a mainstream payment system in the future there will be no banks controlling our money ,and the ideal of faster more cheap international payment will be more interesting . imagine  sending money to someone with out any fees ,well it will mainly reduce the government control over citizen ,but  first bitcoin most become known to the world .so what are your taught on this topic

Yeah, Bitcoin's speed and fees are a total bummer, right?  It's like waiting in line at the DMV, but with way higher stakes!  Tron's speed is definitely tempting, but remember, speed isn't everything.  Think of it like a sports car versus a tank , one's flashy, the other's built to last and withstand a nuclear apocalypse, hopefully
Bitcoin's slowness comes from its security model and it's designed to be super secure, which means more verification steps.  Improving that speed without compromising security is a HUGE challenge.  So for me The whole miners thing is a valid concern. It's a bit like trusting your bank, but with a distributed system of heavily motivated people , so that is all I have to say

well to me  new thing replaces old things is just cause by advancement of human knowledge and their ideal
But let me be honestly, it's just progress.  Like, VHS tapes were cool, but now we've way better stuff.  And now, BITCOIN!  It's a whole different situation, right?  It's like maybe we should just be open to the possibility of something even better coming in the future.
I think we should try to be excited about the possibilities instead of just seeing the older things going away.  That's tough, I know.  But what do you think?  Maybe a bit of enthusiasm rather than criticism would be a good feeling, and understand what it will profit to bitcoin

Okay, so you're asking the million-dollar question,Bitcoin or Gold as a store of value in 2025?  That's a tough one, and honestly, nobody has a crystal ball.  My gut feeling?  It's complicated. Gold has a long history as a safe haven asset.  It's tangible, it's been around for centuries, and people generally understand its value.  Inflation concerns?  Gold often performs well during inflationary periods. Bitcoin as The volatility is the HUGE elephant in the room.  Its value swings wildly.However,  the argument for Bitcoin is that it's decentralized, no government or central bank can control it.  This appeals to a lot of people, especially those wary of traditional financial systems.  If Bitcoin does become more widely adopted and regulated , that could significantly impact its stability as a store of value.
My highly speculative 2025 prediction Gold will likely still hold its position as a trusted, albeit less exciting, store of value.  I think Bitcoin could become more stable if certain regulatory hurdles are cleared and widespread adoption continues , but that's considerable if,  It’s likely to remain significantly more volatile than gold.
The Diversification is probably your best bet.  Don't put all your eggs in one basket, whether it's Bitcoin or gold.   The future is uncertain.  This isn't financial advice   I'm just a person sharing my taught on the matter

Wow, $6.6 trillion in Bitcoin transactions is a HUGE number,  But trying to compare it to everything else going on globally is like trying to measure a drop of water in the ocean   it's just a tiny part of a much, much larger picture.

True, many in traditional finance favor gold.  But Bitcoin offers advantages such as programmability, decentralization, and a fixed supply, which gold lacks. It's not an either/or situation; both can potentially exist as valuable assets .  The media's focus on gold often reflects a misunderstanding or a deliberate downplaying of Bitcoin's unique properties.

That's a good observation about the interplay between miner competition, block reward, and volatility.  You're right, the dynamic of miners vying for inclusion in the next block is a significant factor.  The intensity of this competition, influenced by things like hash rate distribution and network congestion, can contribute to price fluctuations indirectly , a sudden spike in mining difficulty, for example, might correlate with a temporary price drop as miners adjust.
However, attributing direct volatility solely to this competition is an oversimplification.  While selfish mining strategies like the one you described could theoretically manipulate block generation times, the cost of doing so is the risk of being detected .significantly it  limits their profitability.  The block subsidy is a factor, but other market forces like macroeconomic conditions, regulatory news, adoption rates, and speculative trading are far more influential drivers of Bitcoin's price volatility.
The existence of a block subsidy is important, not just because it directly affects profitability but also because it incentivizes miners to secure the network in the first place.  If the only reward was transaction fees, it would be much harder to attract and retain the necessary mining power. 

The competition of people trying to get their transactions included in the next block, being the primary factor that determines block reward, is what causes the volatility. If a selfish miner removes honest miners' blocks from the canonical chain, it can extend the block generation time, and make the competition more intense, which will increase his profitability. The existence of real cost (block subsidy) does not allow this strategy to be profitable at the moment.
[/quote] That's a good observation about the interplay between miner competition, block reward, and volatility.  You're right, the dynamic of miners vying for inclusion in the next block is a significant factor.  The intensity of this competition, influenced by things like hash rate distribution and network congestion, can contribute to price fluctuations indirectly , a sudden spike in mining difficulty, for example, might correlate with a temporary price drop as miners adjust.
However, attributing direct volatility solely to this competition is an oversimplification.  While selfish mining strategies like the one you described could theoretically manipulate block generation times, the cost of doing so is the risk of being detected .significantly it  limits their profitability.  The block subsidy is a factor, but other market forces like macroeconomic conditions, regulatory news, adoption rates, and speculative trading are far more influential drivers of Bitcoin's price volatility.
The existence of a block subsidy is important, not just because it directly affects profitability but also because it incentivizes miners to secure the network in the first place.  If the only reward was transaction fees, it would be much harder to attract and retain the necessary mining power. 

Good question , A 50% drop in 24 hours for Bitcoin is highly improbable given its current market cap and established position.  While sharp corrections are possible we've seen significant drops in the past a move of that magnitude would likely signal a catastrophic event impacting the entire global financial system, not just Bitcoin.  Well am still interested in hearing other prespective due to this topic

t's a good thought ,Mrbluntzy.  Satoshi's goals were to create a better, more efficient payment system, not necessarily to prevent  all government interaction. Perhaps government adoption, even with its potential downsides, could be viewed as a testament to Bitcoin's success in achieving those initial goals.  It forces us to reconsider what true decentralization means in practice. Does it mean complete absence of interaction with governments, or does it mean a system resistant to complete control by any single entity? The debate is far from over, and the evolution of Bitcoin will continue to shape the answer

You raise valid points about Bitcoin's transaction speed and fees.  It's true that Tron, for example, offers faster transactions.  However, Bitcoin's security and decentralization are its strengths.  Think of it like this speed and low cost often come at the cost of security. Bitcoin prioritizes security, which is why it might be slower and more expensive sometimes.
The Lightning Network is a crucial tool for reducing transaction costs on Bitcoin.  It allows for transactions outside the main Bitcoin blockchain, which significantly reduces fees and speeds up processing.  This is definitely something to look into if you're concerned about costs.
Moving to Proof of Stake  would fundamentally alter Bitcoin, and that's a complex change with its own set of trade offs.   It's about weighing the benefits of speed and lower fees against Bitcoin's inherent security and decentralization.  Many people value that security and trust.
Ultimately, the choice is yours.  Consider your priorities and do your own research.  Both Bitcoin and Tron, and other cryptocurrencies, have their own strengths and weaknesses.

Well for me i think it's definitely possible for Bitcoin to be used more for everyday purchases.  The growth of Bitcoin debit cards and merchants accepting it is a good sign.  However, widespread adoption will depend on things like transaction speed and fees becoming more competitive with traditional payment methods, and on wider public acceptance.

This is interesting Robert Kiyosaki's price prediction is certainly ambitious.  While he's a well-known figure, it's crucial to remember that he's not a Bitcoin expert, and his predictions should be treated with healthy skepticism.  His statement lacks specific reasoning, making it hard to assess the validity of his $350k target.  He might be basing it on general market bullishness, inflation fears, or perhaps even just trying to generate attention.
The mention of another responding Bitcoin critic is equally important.  We need to see that response to assess their arguments.  Without the content of their criticism, it's impossible to judge its merit.  Many Bitcoin critics cite volatility, regulatory uncertainty, or environmental concerns as reasons for their skepticism.  These are valid concerns, but they don't necessarily negate Bitcoin's potential for long-term growth.
Ultimately, a $350k Bitcoin price by 2025 is a bold prediction. It's important to do your own research, consider multiple perspectives, and not rely on any single individual's opinion, no matter how influential they may seem.  Analyzing on chain metrics and adoption rates

Wow, that's a really interesting and important point about the increasing crypto heists.  It's definitely a concern for future adoption, and you're right, the numbers don't paint a rosy picture.  While the price jump and institutional interest are positive signs, the consistent rise in hacking incidents casts a shadow over the whole space.
I hear your frustration with the apparent ineffectiveness of regulations so far.  It feels like there's a gap between what governments are doing and the reality on the ground.  You're also spot on that user education is crucial.  Simple, clear security practices are absolutely vital to minimizing these crimes, way beyond just imposing regulations.
A lot of these hacks are indeed due to poor security practices by individual users.  Think phishing scams, weak passwords, or not backing up their wallets properly.  The sheer scale of these incidents highlights a massive educational opportunity.  It's not just about what regulations are in place, but how they're communicated and who is actually receiving the message.

Well that's a great question a lot of people are asking .the short answer is no , reliable predicting Bitcoin or any crypto price without significant trading experience is highly unlikely . while there are patterns and indicators that crypto market is incredibly volatile and influenced by so many factors like news regulation , market sentiment , technological advancement that even seasoned traders rarely get it right

Absolutely, that's an interesting comparison! Bitcoin really does carry that luxury vibe, much like high end brands. Just like a limited edition Rolex or a designer handbag, Bitcoin's scarcity and prestige make it appealing to many. It's not just about the investment; it’s also about status and identity. Owning Bitcoin can feel like being part of an exclusive club, and that allure is definitely part of its charm. Plus, the way it’s marketed and perceived in the culture adds to that "luxury brand" image. What do you think drives that desire for people to associate with it

It's estimated that over 1.7 billion adults worldwide don't have access to traditional banking services. This lack of access can exacerbate poverty, limit economic opportunities, and perpetuate inequality.
Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies have the potential to bridge this gap by providing an alternative to traditional banking. With a smartphone and internet connection, individuals can access financial services, send and receive money, and participate in the global economy.
However, there are also concerns about the risks and challenges associated with Bitcoin adoption in developing countries. These include.
Financial literacy where Many people in developing countries may not have the necessary financial literacy to navigate the complexities of Bitcoin.
Infrastructure limitations involves some areas where internet connectivity and access to smartphones may be limited.
What are your thoughts on the potential of Bitcoin to empower the unbanked? What challenges and risks do you see, and how can they be addressed?

Thanks guys for the reply on this thread I will  locking now