Interesting stuff guys. Keep us up to date.

If I'm not mistaken, you BCX, have the resources and knowledge to set up your own test platforms. Why  would you use a coin people care about and not your own?

Auroracoin and it's idea is one of those projects against political will, until the breaking point, where enough people gets educated and politicians need to obey as they should.
It is a wise thing to remain anonymous for the time being.

Sometimes you have to believe in someone. Give it a try. But risk accordingly.

I don't see why you should be the judge of what currency (lives or) dies along with some people dreams/scam.

Is there some?

There was a problem with wrong stratum listed. aph.aurpool.com instead of the real aphMINE.aurpool.com .

Got email from admins almost instantly after connect failure and 0% fee for life as apologize.

So I'm glad they had that glitch

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Yeah, thank you. Too many national coins lately 

+1

Speculative value to date is totally unimportant.

The goal should be to do the the Airdrop properly so Cypriots can create value by actually using it.

I'm glad to announce both SpainPool net pool and team is up and ready.

Registrations are open, sign up now.

Server parameters:

• Secure Tier III+ load servers
• DDoS Web protection - powered by network of 24 data centers around the world
• 24/7 admin/monitoring
• Fee 0.8%

Quick settings:
--scrypt -o stratum+tcp://mine.spainpool.net:3333 -u Weblogin.Worker -p Worker password

I must say, it is very interesting info and the opportunity to earn big time is still there.
However there is some risk involved, certainty worth it for me.

I'm going to give MyFarm a try.
Greetings to Hrvatsko¨

UPDATE: 12 hours left and rig is listed as OFF and not mining for some time now.

Here you are; MaxCoin-QT.dmg from github archive:
https://mega.co.nz/#!uAFkGYAL!oNEbS3GHRxVwTHSpTU8BjsBv4-lU_0HeGnccSmQ1A1k

Doses anyone know weather I lost my MaxCoins, when a generated new wallet address by "maxcoind getnewaddress", without the "account01" part and sent them there? The address doesnt show up by typing "listaddressgroupings".

Thanks for help and be warned in case this is permanent!

Same here ...

Hi Larry,

would like to join you on a venture once again.

Payment for 2 shares sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/92948820d35a00823ad2b5c4b40cea19ee54e45703ba240d4564ed81d276f6e7

Thank you so far,
Kernel

Thank you OurASIC and all above for bringing community sourced ASICs back to foreground.

The most important thing is having a vision and transform it into real, viable plan. The discussion is already lit up. That's the best way to get there.

We might argue if a company is evil or not when trying to max profit at free market while staying in compliance with law. But that's not the important bit.

The most important question that enables us to forge viable plan: What is our advantage as a community over a "evil" company?

As many of you suggested above, market does apply to a community project same as commercial one. (People wouldn't buy community ASIC when there is better commercial deal.) So, let's see what community can do better than a commercial start-up.

Personally, I think our biggest advantage is being able to take the time to develop as good as it gets. A ASIC commercial company needs to make profit as soon as possible. Their chips could be twice (maybe more) as good, but the capital they use is not their own and expenses on keeping investment grow in time. They have to make some fiat profit fast.

The second big advantage (still my personal opinions) is community funding "as seen on Kickstarter". I would give my money to open community project where I know where my money goes, whats the state of it and the "never done before" goal we share. Where having it stuck as pre-order at some company is scary. My money could be on their way to Bahamas already.

And the third is the brains. A commercial company can offer money to developers, and then throw them away when they done their job. We can offer money too, but on top of that, well ... Companies come and go. ... We as a community are here to stay as long as there is math and some kind of money in the world.

What do you think is our advantage(s) if any?

You are most likely right. Manufacturing should be easy while having a good design.


I think they are sick of the design problems. I truly believe they did not picture nor intended this to happen.

The easy solution to make somebody else overtake board design and convert most of the pre-orders to chip sales seems probably very appealing to BFL right now.

They could come up with a motivation instrument for pre-order costumers. For example chip discount. That could make the magic happen, giving the fact those costumers are still interested in mining by not getting refunded already.

Butterflies would most likely also manufacture devices based on community board design. Or move to Bahamas finally. Who knows.

Please note, that most of this is only my wild speculation.

Thank you burnin very much for taking the time.

We have now two lead community developers - burnin and Chris (Klondike) - to consider BFL chip board. Under some conditions of course. We may have the power to make this happen. (Or not.)


We are the first to actually negotiate with BFL. That indicates BTC community is not a bunch of idiots to throw money at them with no guarantees at all. I see a lot of self-respect in that.

In business world, you don't make deals according to your feelings. You take advantage of the best available on the market and take maximal possible precautions. I'm not responsible for their previous costumers that took lesser precautions.

The truth is BFL may have the best chip technology - they invested a lot of money in their chip (maybe too much), no doubt at all.

They can't handle the board manufacturing and that's where community can take over and profit. That is a business opportunity to me.


Don't accept it and get your money and self-respect back. You kind of support what BFL does by not making so.


C'mon man. BFL does not manufacture the chip. You really think they are producing 65 nm chips by themselves? They have only licence to resell it. With 100% escrow I don't see any problem in that.

I'm not willing to (group)buy any boards/devices made at BFL.


Fisrt of all, love your avatar nave. Secondly, this is a fruitful discussion I was hoping for to see here. Thank you guys (and also to others discussing and expressing support).

It seems the 65 nm chips are generating a lot more heat, than BFL expected. Where being unable to put 8pcs of 4 GH/s chips on few square inch board may discard some cute-black-box designs, for most of BTC miners the size of the board is not as crucial. (Remember GPU rigs?) They are not to keep on the desk anyways. Community developers need to reestablish what "fully populated board" means. I'm pretty sure the hash/board-square-inch  ratio would be still noticeably better than 110 nm Avalon's. My best guess is twice (as 65 nm chip consumes twice less power).

Is anyone here able to measure his Jalapeno heat parameters? For example putting it into polystyrene box and measuring temperature over time. Maybe start with low temperature and don't go too high. Remember, it was manufactured by BFL.

My apologies for the OT. I aim to stop the BFL crap using our GB deal and 100% escrow leverage.

(I was only asking Chris if he would be interested in 65 nm chip board developement/sample chips/docs. We communicate through PMs now.)

Seriously man, did you read any part of this thread? Can you explain why do you think this is a scam 67152398 ?

It's a good thing to be careful, but c'mon we have John (not the same person as Josh ) .