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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 19/08/2019, 15:59:55 UTC
Shareholders meeting is use in ordinary business, when many investor are very reach people, so they can fly to this meeting from anywhere. Talking about crypto, we know, that it is not so rare, when shareholder is not a reach person. That's why I think that all meetings will be online.

I think, that there won't be meeting at all. I think, that the question will be placed for voting on AdSana's app, and all shareholders will have a posibility to vote one time.
In many cases, a shareholders ' meeting with real people is just a tribute to tradition. Vote counting and decision-making can be done electronically.

Don't you think that electronical voting can be hacked, and votes can be used to pursue the goals of some people?
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 19/08/2019, 12:11:47 UTC
As far as I remember, there were some talks about airdrop some time ago. When it is planned and what we should do to participate?
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 19/08/2019, 11:25:28 UTC
By the way, why you've decided to conduct STO instead of ICO? Moreover, I remember that there were several projects, that offered security tokens without vote rights, why you've decided to offer tokens with vote right?

Maybe that were some kind of utility tokens with rights for dividends? I know there is such type of stock shares that offered dividends rights only.

If I remember correct, the type of stock shares, that are not offering vote rights, offers more dividend's percentage instead. Maybe, this is the reason.

Maybe you are right. In long distance higher % of dividends will be more profitable, than right of vote. Most of regular investors, I'm sure, won't use this right at all.

Most of regular investors will be happy to get tokens with higher dividends, but without right of vote. Maybe, the team shoud think about it?

That's very true, the team must really think about this problem
if the investors get too much profit
certainly from the other side will get a pretty big loss too

I didn't say that it was a problem. I've only said that the team could think about offering 2 types of tokens with vote right and without it.
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 18/08/2019, 20:07:02 UTC
By the way, why you've decided to conduct STO instead of ICO? Moreover, I remember that there were several projects, that offered security tokens without vote rights, why you've decided to offer tokens with vote right?

Maybe that were some kind of utility tokens with rights for dividends? I know there is such type of stock shares that offered dividends rights only.

If I remember correct, the type of stock shares, that are not offering vote rights, offers more dividend's percentage instead. Maybe, this is the reason.

Maybe you are right. In long distance higher % of dividends will be more profitable, than right of vote. Most of regular investors, I'm sure, won't use this right at all.

Most of regular investors will be happy to get tokens with higher dividends, but without right of vote. Maybe, the team shoud think about it?
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 18/08/2019, 16:26:37 UTC
If you will become a public company, will US investors be free from the restriction of selling their tokens as other investors?
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 18/08/2019, 12:58:30 UTC

I like these questions because it allows me to repeats something VERY IMPORTANT.  When you are talking about previous ICO's where after they close and get on exchanges people dump their tokens and the price goes way way down.

You are comparing apples to oranges.  Without insulting any past projects WE ARE NOT a ICO that has hyped the heck out of a project that still does not even have a viable blockchain application.  I remember reading about a ICO that raised $125 Million dollars and they said in their White Paper that their app would not even be done till 2024.  Who would invest in a project like that.  By 2024 most likely their application will be obsolete and worthless.

Also while everyone else was dumping those tokens so were the Founders of those ICO's.

WE ARE a security token.  We are NOT a blockchain based application or project.  We are using blockchain to make it more convenient to pay and book.  We are using Blockchain to store treatment data for research but we are NOT dependent on it.  We are using it because it will IMPROVE out efficiency.  

WE ARE a company that, at first, is opening treatment facilities, in the US, for dogs with cancer and we will be treating them with our proprietary treatment.  Any industry related to dogs the US is booming.  Over $17 billion was spent in 2017 on Vet Care in the US and over $69 Billion on Pets in the US.

That should tell you how booming of a industry is pets and dogs in the US.  

If you want to see what might happen with our security tokens you need to look at IPO's.  Companies that went public in the US.  Then you will see a model that after the IPO ends then the price a majority of the time goes up but some dip a bit in price but then they price will be judged by the actual revenues and profits.  Then you would see how great of a deal it was for those investors who were lucky enough to get in on a IPO.

You cannot view what the price of our Security Tokens will do compared to what hyped up ICO's did in the past.

First we will offer to buy the bounties if we can.  Second none of the founder and principles of the company will be allow to sell their tokens for at least 12 months.  Nor can any like US Institutional Investors.  That is a SEC law.

I hope that helps to explain it.

Gary

So you intend to conduct an IPO, I have not heard about this method of investing in projects, and according to the laws of the SEC, institutional investors and just investors can not sell tokens in less  12 months. Did I understand your answer correctly?

No Bitkocha you are NOT understand it correctly.  We are NOT doing an iPO.  We are doing a STO a security token offering.  A IPO is an Initial Public Offering.  It is what is done when major corporation go PUBLIC with the stock.  It was what Facebook just did.  It is very expensive.  I am not sure how you saw that in my response.  I was comparing how the price of the stock reacts after the IPO and saying that our STO will act more like that.  And it will NOT act like the ICO's of past which are pumped up and have no real working product that will generate revenue.  Do you understand now?

AND any investor, institutional or not, if they are US citizens investing under Reg D they have to hold there tokens for 12 months.  If they are not in the US and are International investors they they are investing under Reg S and they have to hold their tokens for 90 days.  THIS is only the initial investors.  If someone buys on the secondary market via a exchange they can sell the tokens any time they want after that buy them if the want.
Sorry Gary, I didn’t understand you right at the beginning and now I understand the whole difference between IPO and STO.
  Do you already know on what state exchange you will conduct STO ?

As far as I understood, they won't use any exchange in order to conduct their STO. They will do it by them own. When project uses any exchange to offer their token in a period of fundraising, it is called IEO.

As far as I understood, they want to use Stock Exchange for selling tokens to big investors. If so, it will be some kind of  IEO.
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 18/08/2019, 08:04:49 UTC
Yes, it will encourage people, not only bounty hunters to buy tokens before next stage of buy back. Usually, the price of token rises in such period.
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 17/08/2019, 18:02:43 UTC
The most important thing to keep the price is to buy coins from those who merge them immediately after entering the exchange, otherwise the cost may fall very much, investors will be in a deep minus.

I like these questions because it allows me to repeats something VERY IMPORTANT.  When you are talking about previous ICO's where after they close and get on exchanges people dump their tokens and the price goes way way down.

You are comparing apples to oranges.  Without insulting any past projects WE ARE NOT a ICO that has hyped the heck out of a project that still does not even have a viable blockchain application.  I remember reading about a ICO that raised $125 Million dollars and they said in their White Paper that their app would not even be done till 2024.  Who would invest in a project like that.  By 2024 most likely their application will be obsolete and worthless.

Also while everyone else was dumping those tokens so were the Founders of those ICO's.

WE ARE a security token.  We are NOT a blockchain based application or project.  We are using blockchain to make it more convenient to pay and book.  We are using Blockchain to store treatment data for research but we are NOT dependent on it.  We are using it because it will IMPROVE out efficiency. 

WE ARE a company that, at first, is opening treatment facilities, in the US, for dogs with cancer and we will be treating them with our proprietary treatment.  Any industry related to dogs the US is booming.  Over $17 billion was spent in 2017 on Vet Care in the US and over $69 Billion on Pets in the US.

Check out this data.



That should tell you how booming of a industry is pets and dogs in the US. 

If you want to see what might happen with our security tokens you need to look at IPO's.  Companies that went public in the US.  Then you will see a model that after the IPO ends then the price a majority of the time goes up but some dip a bit in price but then they price will be judged by the actual revenues and profits.  Then you would see how great of a deal it was for those investors who were lucky enough to get in on a IPO.

You cannot view what the price of our Security Tokens will do compared to what hyped up ICO's did in the past.

First we will offer to buy the bounties if we can.  Second none of the founder and principles of the company will be allow to sell their tokens for at least 12 months.  Nor can any like US Institutional Investors.  That is a SEC law.

I hope that helps to explain it.

Gary

So, you are planning to buy back bounty tokens? When? I mean how much time should past before you will offer that?
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 17/08/2019, 08:28:38 UTC
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Some projects are practicing so called buy-back model, when project buy tokens from bounty hunter and other token holders. Did you think about this model?

Good model, by the way. It stops bounty hunters and other token holders from selling tokens quickly, right after the end of sales, when token is getting listed on any exchange.

Kira I really like this idea.  I would love for the bounty hunters to understand that it can be more profitable for them to hold on but there is a strong likelyhood that as soon as the tokens are sellable on a exchange most will sell immediately. If we buy back the bounty that would help to not have a massive selling and it will support the price.

Oh, so you are going to list your token on one of such exchanges? We all thought that you are in a process of negotiation with crypto exchanges.

That is correct, Kiriya.  Not a crypto exchange.  A real government run, government regulated security token exchange.

Gary

So, you want to place tokens not on crypto-exchanges, but on large American exchanges? Or did I misunderstand? If so, it would be a very big breakthrough.

They want to list their token on govermental exchange, that can trade both stocks and crypto security tokens.
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 16/08/2019, 17:58:44 UTC
That, I mean massive selling right after the token listing, will be possible only if there will be more than 2000 investors, right?


Everyone, is restricted from selling.  90 days for International Reg S.  But I believe we could buy them back from the Bountys.

I think you should announce token listing as soon as it possible. It will help you to attract investors on this forum.

And yes Kira  I will let everyone know as soon as I can.

Gary

But you've told before, that if there would be 2000 investors, you wil become a public company. As a result, everyone will have a possibility to sell tokens.
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 16/08/2019, 17:09:09 UTC
Multiple Comments and Response

Some projects are practicing so called buy-back model, when project buy tokens from bounty hunter and other token holders. Did you think about this model?

Good model, by the way. It stops bounty hunters and other token holders from selling tokens quickly, right after the end of sales, when token is getting listed on any exchange.

Kira I really like this idea.  I would love for the bounty hunters to understand that it can be more profitable for them to hold on but there is a strong likelyhood that as soon as the tokens are sellable on a exchange most will sell immediately. If we buy back the bounty that would help to not have a massive selling and it will support the price.

Oh, so you are going to list your token on one of such exchanges? We all thought that you are in a process of negotiation with crypto exchanges.

That is correct, Kiriya.  Not a crypto exchange.  A real government run, government regulated security token exchange.

Gary

That, I mean massive selling right after the token listing, will be possible only if there will be more than 2000 investors, right?
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 16/08/2019, 16:44:49 UTC
I see, that's great. There was a question when you will deal with them? How much time left for investments?

We are talking about two different exchanges in two different countries. With first one we could be ready within a month and the exchange is already taking Security Tokens.  The second one, won't have their exchange up and running till the beginning of next year but we are trying to see if one of the broker dealers would start working with us now.

That are some distinct advantages that I cannot say right now for the second country.  But if the broker dealer does not want to work with us until the exchange is up I do not want to wait till next year to start working with a broker dealer.

Gary

So, the second exchange is new brand one, right? As for me, I don't think it is a good idea to list token on a new exchange. Noone knows about, so it was very difficult to attract users there.

Kiriya,  this are not companies that start online exchanges.  These are government run exchange that trade stocks and tokens.  Similar to to the London Stock Exchange and the Frankfurt Stock Exchanges.  This have licensed broker dealers and strict requirements and rules to follow.  Rules you just don't break.  That is why investors go to these because buying through these types of exchanges give added protection.

Oh, so you are going to list your token on one of such exchanges? We all thought that you are in a process of negotiation with crypto exchanges.
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 16/08/2019, 16:27:47 UTC
I see, that's great. There was a question when you will deal with them? How much time left for investments?

We are talking about two different exchanges in two different countries. With first one we could be ready within a month and the exchange is already taking Security Tokens.  The second one, won't have their exchange up and running till the beginning of next year but we are trying to see if one of the broker dealers would start working with us now.

That are some distinct advantages that I cannot say right now for the second country.  But if the broker dealer does not want to work with us until the exchange is up I do not want to wait till next year to start working with a broker dealer.

Gary

So, the second exchange is new brand one, right? As for me, I don't think it is a good idea to list token on a new exchange. Noone knows about, so it was very difficult to attract users there.
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 16/08/2019, 12:27:03 UTC
[As was said, people here invest very rarely. They prefer to wait for investments from institutional investors in order to be sure that this project is interesting to Funds.

That's true. Investors here burned their hands many times in 2017-2018. Now, they are very careful with investing in startups. Many of them prefer to buy tokens on exchanges.

Well that will a shame and their loss if they wait for Institutional Investors because if we get all the money from the Institutional
Investor, the STO will be closed and people from the forum will not even be able to get in on the low STO prices.

AND you also said above that they will wait till they can buy them in the exchanges then I can guarantee you by then the price of the SANA tokens will be much higher.  And they will pay a lot more for the tokens.  Then when buy theses SANA tokens at an exchange, they will all be saying "I wish I had a chance to have bought into this at a lower price".  

Well the do.  Now!  They won't later.  

And if you are betting that they will sink in value like all the others after the offering.  Those other ICO's whose value bottomed after the ICO, most only had a MVP and need the money to create the product.  We have the treatment, it has been used since 2009, and as soon as we open a Canine Cancer Center we will have patients.  With all the press that we will be issuing, and the good results for our patients, our SANA price will not bottom out like all the rest.  It will react more like a stock does on a stock exchange based on Supply and Demand, Profits, our story and the market, being treating cancer patients

But I cannot force anyone to invest now.  I can only show them the opportunity they have now.

Gary



So, how much time do investors have to invest in your project before you will raise the token's price to $0.2?
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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on 16/08/2019, 09:26:33 UTC
Some projects are practicing so called buy-back model, when project buy tokens from bounty hunter and other token holders. Did you think about this model?

Good model, by the way. It stops bounty hunters and other token holders from selling tokens quickly, right after the end of sales, when token is getting listed on any exchange.

When this model is used, token holders try to get more tokens, before next stage of buy-back will start. It helps the price of the token to grow greatly.
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 15/08/2019, 14:45:23 UTC
How long will take to develop the app in your opinion, and how much money you will need for that? Maybe, it would be better to wait with the app?

Not long.  We are using some blockchain but mainly Holochain. You can read about the advantages of Holochain in many places.   The entire systems is created on Github but it will remain private for now because it needs to be fine tunes and we need to create the user interface for the desktop and mobile apps

Gary
I think application development can go hand in hand with fundraising. Moreover, you have clinics that are already working and when the application is ready, it can be immediately used by clients of clinics.

As far as I understood, those clinics in CHina are not private clinics of Dr.Tsang. Those clinic was given him by goverment of China.

You are correct.  They are not Dr. Tsang's clinics. They are actually state run hospitals where Dr. Tsang has trained a doctor to give the treatment. 

Is there a problem, when clients want to know what exact drugs you are using to treat them in China?
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 15/08/2019, 14:23:23 UTC
Well, I think that we should wait for Gary. He will give you the answer as he always do. But, I'm curious about it too.
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 15/08/2019, 13:24:52 UTC
Will you tell your clients what exact drugs you will give them or their pet? I mean, patients have a right to know this information, right?

Interesting question, by the way. If they will tell, it can help their competitors to steal the approach, if not - clients may say no to the treatment.

Yeap, I have same thoughts. I'm interested how will they solve this problem in case it is a problem.

I think they have enough experience in this question, just because they use this method of Cancer treatment for 13 years in China.
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 15/08/2019, 09:29:41 UTC
What minimum amount of funds required to open one clinic. What is the softcap of project?

as you can see in the spreadsheet, the 1st year there will be -$2mln, so the softcap should be about $2,5mln. But, I'm not sure.

If they won't build new building for clinic or buy it they will need less. For example, they can rent some space for their 1st cabinets.
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Re: ⭐️ [ANN] [STO] Cancer Treatment Proven Since '09 ⭐️ MINIMUM INVESTMENT ONLY $90 ⭐️
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Kiriya
on 15/08/2019, 05:34:23 UTC
How long will take to develop the app in your opinion, and how much money you will need for that? Maybe, it would be better to wait with the app?

Not long.  We are using some blockchain but mainly Holochain. You can read about the advantages of Holochain in many places.   The entire systems is created on Github but it will remain private for now because it needs to be fine tunes and we need to create the user interface for the desktop and mobile apps

Gary
I think application development can go hand in hand with fundraising. Moreover, you have clinics that are already working and when the application is ready, it can be immediately used by clients of clinics.

As far as I understood, those clinics in CHina are not private clinics of Dr.Tsang. Those clinic was given him by goverment of China.