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Re: Goldman Sachs involvement in Etherium?
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Klonewars
on 26/01/2014, 03:23:17 UTC

So you don't think the major banks, governments and central banks have no problem at all with a rival monetary system that they can't regulate, control, tax, monitor? So their fractional reserve system is in no way threatened by a decentralised system.

And also you miss the point that IF Major banks and central banks get involved in starting currencies then they will want to control them and have back doors set in place.

Central banks will have a huge problem. Investment banks will have no problem. It's basically one more unregulated pile of money for them to profit off of. Why would they give a hoot?


Investment banks have as we know a symbiotic relationship with Central banks. The revolving door at the FED is well known and the FED was founded by major banks like JPMorgan etc.

I know it's ok to have a different opinion to what I'm saying but I don't trust your account as it was only opened just and so far You have only dedicated you involvement on this site to counteracting with no real substance the idea that Banks wouldn't be concerned if a bitcoin went mainstream, which is obviously false.
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Re: Goldman Sachs involvement in Etherium?
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Klonewars
on 25/01/2014, 20:28:40 UTC

From the conversations I have had so far, I see little to indicate that Goldman Sachs sees Bitcoin as a threat of any kind. There's nothing to prevent Goldman from speculating in Bitcoin and they can even accept it as payment if it is successful enough. If they can make money with it, obviously they will.

That said, Goldman is not in the business of making "early stage" bets. They usually wait until something is reasonably mature before moving in. Since I'm sure they have analysts working on digital currency happenings, Ethereum could very well be a good entry point for them into the market.

Fundamentally the "door is always open" with the current cryptocurrency model. When you distribute everything, you allow whoever wants to to play in the same sandbox you are playing in.

If this bothers you, you might want to seek out another model.


So you don't think the major banks, governments and central banks have no problem at all with a rival monetary system that they can't regulate, control, tax, monitor? So their fractional reserve system is in no way threatened by a decentralised system.

And also you miss the point that IF Major banks and central banks get involved in starting currencies then they will want to control them and have back doors set in place.
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Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning
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Klonewars
on 25/01/2014, 18:02:59 UTC
Sorry I had to post. I just watched the video and its true at 8.10 they mention some involved are from Goldman Sachs. I'm telling you do NOT trust this coin. I'm not saying you wont make money, in fact its got enough backing I bet that it may well be successful. But I can tell you now whether the founders know it or not they are being played by bigger powers than themselves. I was wondering when a bigg central bank connection would try to get its foot in door of digital currencies and here it is. You can guarantee that it was Goldman Sachs money that brought together an unsuspecting talented team to create this. Goldman is more than a bank they are the powers that be....The IPO even sounds like a shit IPO that Goldman has been involved in like Facebook etc. Buy it if you want, make some money and then never use this shit ever again......

I'm not shrill I have no reason other than knowing enough about Goldman Sachs and the banking elite that this has powerful elite written all over it. This is not against the founders I expect they were just rounded up and head hunted...

http://euro-med.dk/bil/goldman-sachs-20conquers-20europe.jpg

The greatest conspiracy theory since Satoshi Nakamoto. Can we get this to the press?

http://www.commieblaster.com/images/nwo/new-world-order.jpg



Calling something a conspiracy is the easy way to try to discredit anything these days, yeah just lump financial corruption with aliens and bigfoot. Bright...


Can I remind you Libor fixing was called a crazy conpiracy as was gold fixing, as was the NSA recording all your communications....
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Goldman Sachs involvement in Etherium?
by
Klonewars
on 25/01/2014, 17:56:52 UTC
Look everyone I'm an average Joe, i'm no expert in Cryptocurrencies so I'm coming to pose a question about something that looks really suspicious.


I came to Cryptocurrencies via Libertarian thinking of sound money and an understanding that the Federal reserve founded by major elites is the power that controls our money and in many ways our lives. I won't apologize for that, I'm not on the same page as Alex Jones on many things but I am on the same as Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, and Max Kieser.


Cryptocurrencies spell for the financial elite a serious threat that I think shouldnt be underestimated. They would prefer to just mock us through the media but at some point they might feel the need to get their foot in the door and take some power. So I was wondering how they might attempt this...



So alarms bells starting ringing when I heard that Etherium has some people who are ex Goldman Sachs. Now I'm not trying to discredit the coin, in fact it may well make money and I can't say I won't buy into the IPO, but its growing more unlikely. BUT I would never want it to grow and be used if indeed there are Central bank powers behind this IPO. Maybe I'm being paranoid but when even I see corruption in the financial world it often leads back to banks like Goldman and JP Morgan. Its also note worthy that the coin involves many of the things these banks have manipulated the world ie Derivatives. I also recognize that the guys involved might mainly be oblivious to what MIGHT be happening. I wonder if they have been head hunted and brought together buy Goldman Sachs employees.


So I just want to put the question out there, should we be concerned?


http://ethereum.org/

Goldman Sachs is mentioned at 8.10.


And just to remind people who really runs the world banks and you can add Mark Carney in the UK to this map too:   

http://euro-med.dk/bil/goldman-sachs-20conquers-20europe.jpg


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Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning
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Klonewars
on 25/01/2014, 17:37:37 UTC
Sorry I had to post. I just watched the video and its true at 8.10 they mention some involved are from Goldman Sachs. I'm telling you do NOT trust this coin. I'm not saying you wont make money, in fact its got enough backing I bet that it may well be successful. But I can tell you now whether the founders know it or not they are being played by bigger powers than themselves. I was wondering when a bigg central bank connection would try to get its foot in door of digital currencies and here it is. You can guarantee that it was Goldman Sachs money that brought together an unsuspecting talented team to create this. Goldman is more than a bank they are the powers that be....The IPO even sounds like a shit IPO that Goldman has been involved in like Facebook etc. Buy it if you want, make some money and then never use this shit ever again......

I'm not shrill I have no reason other than knowing enough about Goldman Sachs and the banking elite that this has powerful elite written all over it. This is not against the founders I expect they were just rounded up and head hunted...

http://euro-med.dk/bil/goldman-sachs-20conquers-20europe.jpg
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Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning
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Klonewars
on 25/01/2014, 13:38:29 UTC
They say they are trying to make this IPO as fair as possible and distribute it also to miners etc. BUT they don't follow through with this fairness to themselves enriching themselves greatly. This could be a great technology but I'm not technical but this is more unfair than NXT ever was. At least NXT only became enriched by their own coins and didn't collect a huge amount of BTC to start.



I might invest in this but I am 100% that the guys are doing something that will benefit themselves multiples of times more than any investor. If they wanted to be fair they could put a cap at 1 BTC or even just ask people to send a token amount like .001 BTC etc. They could still get rich from their share if they create a successful coin. Don't forget even if this coin sucks and fails they get rich, this isn't Libertarian freedom of capitalism but more resembling a Ponzi scheme.






If I buy this coin and don't make much i'm going to be pissed that the skinny little geek is going to be snorting coke of one of his Faggot Dungeons and Dragons buddies butt crack.

The simple question you have to ask yourself is this?  Why pre-buy this coin as an investment and make these guys 36 million when you can probably make just as much on other coins without the risk of pre-sale.  For example, I have been buying up Klondikes since their launch a few weeks ago and already tripled my investment and expect at least 10x more still.  Why did I invest my money into Klondike?  They have six certifiable devs that are working on projects round the clock and you know how much was pre-mined and pre-sold?  Zero and Zero.  These guys are actually BUYING their own coins and hoping their investment in hard earn work and capital will earn them money later.  Can you believe that?  I can invest in Klondikes because I know the devs got a lot of their OWN money and time riding on it so they will not let it fail.  These guys on ethereum, I cant stop laughing, they are asking for 36 million dollars and 50% pre-mine.  "palmface"  If didn't see it, I would think it had to be a joke.

Even if you believe this coin will succeed in some capacity, you should not reward these guys for being greedy.  These type of deals will turn off a lot of the Bitcoin community and if people start putting any decent amount of money into these types of coins,  I GUARANTEE YOU, there will be a hundred more coins like this that will try to raise millions in pre-sale.  And before you know it, the market will be saturated and collapse, and the hundreds of thousands of people will start losing money because there just is not enough capital to support hundreds of 36 million pre-sale coins.  Don't support these get rich quick scams.  If you like the concept, you will be able to buy tons of these coins aftermarket without any pre-sale risk and without enabling these type of coin operators schemes.

Thing is i'm not saying that its not a great coin, it could be, that's why I said I'm not technical and didn't know enough to ascertain its intrinsic value.

That point is irrelevant, my point is even if they have the most awesome coin in the world and will become the new global reserve currency they are clearly setting the IPO up to massively benefit themselves under the guise of being fair to miners etc. So the truth is I could make some good money on them but I know the founders will be making off like bandits as well. BUT I don't mind that, founders deserve rewarding if they ARE successful but they will succeed even if their coin isn't.

So why wouldnt I just pass this by? Well because if I gain I care little about their success. In fact the reason they can grab a large cut is because they MIGHT have a great coin. They know you want something and are being dicks about it basically. They are selling water in a desert, of course we want it and they can charge anything they want.

Now I have zero problem with them being dicks about how much they are asking, what I find annoying is they are talking BS about this being the fairest way possible to distribute the coins.

I would respect the little dweeb if in his squeaky little nerd voice he just said hey i'm the Geek Daddy and i'm gonna get so rich I can buy every Star Wars figure ever made and can get to have a gay spit-roast with his hero's Mark Zukerberg and Obama.
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Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning
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Klonewars
on 25/01/2014, 12:55:46 UTC
They say they are trying to make this IPO as fair as possible and distribute it also to miners etc. BUT they don't follow through with this fairness to themselves enriching themselves greatly. This could be a great technology but I'm not technical but this is more unfair than NXT ever was. At least NXT only became enriched by their own coins and didn't collect a huge amount of BTC to start.



I might invest in this but I am 100% that the guys are doing something that will benefit themselves multiples of times more than any investor. If they wanted to be fair they could put a cap at 1 BTC or even just ask people to send a token amount like .001 BTC etc. They could still get rich from their share if they create a successful coin. Don't forget even if this coin sucks and fails they get rich, this isn't Libertarian freedom of capitalism but more resembling a Ponzi scheme.






If I buy this coin and don't make much i'm going to be pissed that the skinny little geek is going to be snorting coke of one of his Faggot Dungeons and Dragons buddies butt crack.
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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
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Klonewars
on 25/01/2014, 09:59:08 UTC
I like the idea of sending peconfigered promo-raspberrys to people Smiley
Its way better than just throwing money at somebody yelling "RESPECT ME!!!1"


If somone sent me or anyone I know a Raspberry Pi I would think why someone had sent me their friken science experiment....


An email link for a preconfigured wallet along with a simple explanation and the current and future vision for NXT. Words and ideas are powerful... Even a working wallet isn't nessecary, screen shots and vision statements is all anyone needs.


Someone should make a talking to camera youtube clip that explains NXT....though the graphic ones i've seen are not bad.
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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
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Klonewars
on 25/01/2014, 07:46:59 UTC
Guys,

Don't worry - the big difference I have seen between Nxt and the others is that:

i) It *doesn't* have VC capital backing.

ii) It *doesn't* have "slick sales guys*.

iii) It *does* have smart devs and an increasing following.

iv) It *is* delivering its promises (more or less) on time.

There will always be "the next* conference - stick to what you're doing well - people are watching this space with interest.


These are good points.  We are a grassroots movement with the aim of empowering people.


Grassroots my ass, Bitcoin is quoted in Forbes and Bloomberg and NXT wants and aspires to be alongside it. How much money have you got in your account, a few million worth or more, grassroots and empowering my ass. You can't be all underground on a forum with a million memembers and an account with a few millions dollars.....stupid.
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Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information
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Klonewars
on 25/01/2014, 07:38:20 UTC
People here are idiots. Of course its worth sending this guy some NXT with a full description of the project. You only need to send 1000 or less for him to see how it works. That many followers and someone who is reported in financial pages is a damn better seed marketing investment than 99% of the FB crap ideas on here.

Anyway, I have almost no NXT but i'll send 100NXT if that all you need to show him the system just a complimentary amount for him to check the system. Asking him to wade through buying NXT from BTC on some exchange you will proabably already lose him in terms of being a high profile supporter/investor of NXT. People are beyond stingy without any understanding of how the real world works. The guy is actually asking to know about what is being done with NXT, why the hell would you go out of your way to be antisocial. He's just a guy who wants to know about NXT.....

Honestly though a full explanation and include the info graphic someone made here is all you need, I wouldn't give him a crappy client we are using at the moment or he might see it as not user friendly for the masses to invest or promote.
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Re: [ANN] KLONE :: descendant of NXT - 1 Million Coins - VERY RARE!
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Klonewars
on 25/01/2014, 06:29:30 UTC
KLONES TO THE MOONS!!!!!!!

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Re: [ANN] NEM : descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins - Equal Shares for ALL
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Klonewars
on 24/01/2014, 21:24:34 UTC
INTERESTED!!!!!



40NXT SENT
NXT ACCOUNT: 5747068027688827271
transation number:14830505655548542514 
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Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine! - 100% Premine / 100% Distribution - Mining TX fees only
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Klonewars
on 23/01/2014, 20:58:13 UTC
Can people help me out, my wallet is not synced, i'm completely clueless about mining but want some coins.

1JonCfR4YkRMw6SfQKLvsMW5EnxcQxDXys
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Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine! - 100% Premine / 100% Distribution - Mining TX fees only
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Klonewars
on 23/01/2014, 20:37:05 UTC
I downloaded the wallet, I dodn't know how to mine but want to on my crappy laptop. It isn't even sycnced and and I dont have an address??

1. Start the Wallet and close it again

2. make a new textfile paste this:

listen=1
server=1
rpcuser=yourname
rpcpassword=yourpassword
rpcport=9335
rpcconnect=127.0.0.1
addnode=65.167.153.125
addnode=65.167.153.115
listen=1
daemon=1
server=1

into it and save it as premine.conf in c:/users/**yourcomputername**/AppData/Roaming/Premine




3. start cgminer:
cgminer.exe --scrypt -o localhost:9335 -u yourname -p yourpassword


I'm not exagerating when I say I won't be able to do this, not everone knows how to set this stuff up, So I guess computer nerds win?

CGI MIner???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1TKYpxTmso


Sigh....Now I feel really fucking stupid, its more complicated than I thought. Cant somone just send me some? Ive never been able to mine a single coin my whole life......I guess i'm dumb. This is no fairer than just giving away in a POS honestly...
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Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine! - 100% Premine / 100% Distribution - Mining TX fees only
by
Klonewars
on 23/01/2014, 20:29:05 UTC
I downloaded the wallet, I dodn't know how to mine but want to on my crappy laptop. It isn't even sycnced and and I dont have an address??

1. Start the Wallet and close it again

2. make a new textfile paste this:

listen=1
server=1
rpcuser=yourname
rpcpassword=yourpassword
rpcport=9335
rpcconnect=127.0.0.1
addnode=65.167.153.125
addnode=65.167.153.115
listen=1
daemon=1
server=1

into it and save it as premine.conf in c:/users/**yourcomputername**/AppData/Roaming/Premine




3. start cgminer:
cgminer.exe --scrypt -o localhost:9335 -u yourname -p yourpassword


I'm not exagerating when I say I won't be able to do this, not everone knows how to set this stuff up, So I guess computer nerds win?

CGI MIner???
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Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine! - 100% Premine / 100% Distribution - Mining TX fees only
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Klonewars
on 23/01/2014, 20:18:18 UTC
I downloaded the wallet, I dodn't know how to mine but want to on my crappy laptop. It isn't even sycnced and and I dont have an address??


Update:OK I found it!!!!!

1JonCfR4YkRMw6SfQKLvsMW5EnxcQxDXys


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Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine! - 100% Premine / 100% Distribution - Mining TX fees only
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Klonewars
on 23/01/2014, 20:08:28 UTC
im in!
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Re: Ethereum: 2nd gen cryptocurrency with contract programming, "dagger" hashing
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Klonewars
on 23/01/2014, 20:02:16 UTC
Clever enough to create a new financial system but stupid enough to use photos from FB on the site?


I'm not sure I can invest money in people that look like D&D players.
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Re: Descendant of NXT Klone Lite LOOK!! FREE 10NXT TO NEXT 10 INTERESTED POSTS!!!WOW
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Klonewars
on 23/01/2014, 19:45:38 UTC
Free money!
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Re: Descendant of NXT Klone Lite LOOK!! FREE 10NXT TO NEXT 10 INTERESTED POSTS!!!WOW
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Klonewars
on 23/01/2014, 15:53:28 UTC
go get them free NXT!!!! FIRST 10 ONLY!!!