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Damn, I wish there was some sort of "one-click." method for this that went through the USB. I swear every single time I try to do something like this I end up failing miserably. I always have horrible luck, especially when there are guides and everyone else seems to have no issue.

My Jalapeno is running at 5650 MH/s and although that's fairly awesome seeing as I though I was getting 4500, I still would love to have 7000 - 9000. I doubt I will be doing it though, maybe after I make ROI or if/when the difficulty is high enough that I don't feel bad having my miner not running (I know someone in here said 0.12 BTC was nothing, but I'm running at 0.09 per day, and at 9+ dollars a day that's quite a bit, haha.)

Isn't it an awful feeling to feel as though no matter what you do, you risk a tonne of money and time? lol.

I'm definitely saving this thread, it was awesome to read though.

The Jalapeno cost 170 including shipping for quite a while. I don't know why everyone is quoting the current price and also adding on shipping costs to it. I would like to know when it was exactly that people started paying that much for these. They wont be seeing a return I don't think because their shipping date must be a bit away still.

I also dislike that for some reason this calculator won't let you go "back in time." I started my miner a few days ago, not this month, but I can't set that. would be nice if it asked for the day and not just the month, for more clear calculations, and not limit the dates.

I will make back my cost in 19 days I believe. Everything after that is extra.

The difficulty thing is always going to be annoying. At this moment it's quoting only 40%, and it goes up and down. Many people doing calculations elsewhere quote more like 20%. So it's a matter of looking at what's coming right now, where that's going to end, and if we are going to see any real jumps again. I personally think the increases are going to die down after all of this preorder stuff. It would take some real power being sold at a quite a low cost to really see returns after all of this. Mining is closing in on the end of it's real profitability. Everyone is going to have to start actually doing something to make coins, lol.

Dude, she has probably been putting together computer components since before you were born. Her age hardly matters as much as you make it out to be. She doesn't look like she is 1000 or something.

And yeah, I would rather have these things made by adults making a real wage rather than over seas by kids making nothing at all. Sounds good to me.

I don't know if this is an older picture though, nor do I care.

You really press for that BeagleBone don't you? haha. There is something to be said about the cost of each thing though. Isn't the BB more than double the cost of the RPi? And the MK802 is only a little bit less than the BB. Though crazyates they got theirs for 41 shipped. I don't know where they got theirs though.

And any time anyone talks about another alt, such as the odroids that were just posted, they are always like 100 bucks. Why would anyone want any of those options when you could spend under 50 dollars on something that will work just as well. I understand the want for something better if you are going to toy around with it a lot and use it for many different projects, but we are talking about buying something that by all rights should be sitting in a drawer forever.

As I posted before, I picked up SYLVANIA SYNET7WIC for 47 shipped. Anything that I could find that had better specs cost at least double. And unlike the RPi and a few others that had the same exact specs, this idea/product has a build in screen/keyboard/mouse as well as full wireless out of the box. It also has 3 USB ports on it instead of the 1.

I'm obviously a little bias here as this is the one that I  ended up buying, but I did look at all of the alternatives posted here as well as a few other ones.

I'm actually really glad I got it when I did too because it went out of stock only a day or two after I got mine. I know that you can get it for pretty much the same price in a few other places though, so it might still be an option for other people depending on where you live.

I think I'm going to take a little time today (probably right after I post this) to get a proper OS onto the device and get a miner on there. I really wish I had a USB miner to test out as well. I'm thoroughly impressed with the build quality too. I expected it to feel like really cheap plastic, but it doesn't. It feels solid, like any other netbook.

I also can't currently comment on the watt usage but seeing as it's not even a full netbook (I guess they call it a smartbook, like a cross between a netbook and a smart phone?) and those use very few watts, I'm going to assume that it's quite low. It will take it quite some time before it costs me that extra 40+ dollars that I didn't spend on another option. I might even mod it a little bit to see if I can save a few watts here and there, but the effort that would take might outweigh the savings. We are really talking about cents per year here.

I do think this thread is evolving a bit as well all start to get our hands on our purchases. I think we should stop comparing models and products, especially ones that we already own, because we already have all of that information. I would love to start seeing pictures of setups and devices here. I will be taking some today I guess.

Even with my low hashrate and the risk of burning out my cards, it's worth it for me because I don't pay the electric bill.

I do pay for some things around here, and there will come a time (pretty much when ASICs come, and I have ordered one of those so I'm fine in that regard) when what I make in coins will not be worth it even with the electricity costs because I'm using my personal card and it could break or start to malfunction in the games that I play or I may be asked to pay part of the electric bill and that would put me in a position where I didn't care to pay that extra 5 - 10 bucks a month or whatever for my few dollars in coins. But that time has not come yet.

You also have to realize that as long as you pretty much break even, you can still mine. Most people made enough from their farms to pay for the electricity more than double, so they can still mine at a gain. It's not reasonable to turn off a card that might not have even paid for itself yet, just because it's only make a few cents on top of paying for the electricity bill. You are still making something... And the cost of coins fluctuates a good deal. You might mine at a loss for a bit and then start mining at a gain for a bit, back to loss, and so on.. yet overall always be making coin and in the end have a nice stockpile that is worth far more than you paid in. Bitcoin should also always go up in price over time, don't forget that.

You don't have to factor in the cost of your mining equipment once you are already mining, and if anything, if you do include the costs you paid then you need to keep them on as long as you can pay the electric bill and get a few more coins after that or you lose out completely.

I wouldn't tell someone that it was reasonable to buy new equipment in order to mine if that is what you are talking about. But that has nothing to do with why the total hashrate is still the same.

There is also something to be said about the ease of mining over using any of the Bitcoin buying services. The easy ones always give to a good deal less.

Very cool...

Welcome to the forums. I hope to see you around.

Would you mind posting pictures?

It doesn't look like I can check out the site...

I will place my money with deepbit just for fun. We should start a real thread for this. Too bad we don't have a secure service for betting huh?

It's not retarded at all. If you have been around so long you should have started and used your account more.

Well that's part of the point.

You are not the only one laundering the coins through that service. Many many many people are. It just so happens that one of those addresses paid for drugs. And there really should be no way for them to link that back to you. It's part of a laundering service that so many people use is and are connected to it.

Silk Road would have to have a leak that meant having the drugs shipped to you was the issue. In that case it wouldn't matter at all what you did with your coins, how you paid for them, nothing. The issue there would only be that you had drugs shipped do you. In this case the only leak that needs to happen is with Silk Road. But I just don't see that happening. I could be wrong though.

Unless you mean other people in that laundering network are paying for illegal things and you are not or whatever. In that case I go back to the fact that too many people are using that same laundering service (or should be..) and they would not be able to track that one address back to you... And once again, that is part of it. They wont pin the purchase on you but they also wont pin it on the other guy or the 100s of other people who used that service.

There are only a few days left!

HAHA!

We could start a cult. Are we already a cult? Is this too meta?

That's pretty fun, haha. You should start using another client for transactions now and keep your pi intact. Novelty wallet.

Well if you are looking for a full on desktop mini PC then you are a bit limited. There are others, all easy to find. All expensive, especially if you are using them as a mining controller.

For me I just got this this "netbook." and I think it's going to work as well as any of these other options, if not better. It has the added benefit of an attached screen and keyboard, as well as 3 x USB, 2GB on-board storage with an SD expansion slot, and full wireless capabilities out of the box. For half the price of most options, and not having to wait for restocks of RPis, I think it's pretty slick.

Now I may find out that there are some issues but for the price and what it seems to offer, I think it's worth testing it out.

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I just noticed that you said you are going to go with the mele a1000. If you can get that for $70 or so I think it will be nice. I know you said you wanted to have a case and that one sure does give that "Is still a computer." look. Something you would be willing to have out in the open. I'm really looking to put mine in a drawer though, haha.

I think there is room for a more widespread service (A forum like this) on the TOR network. The issue is that we are not looking to do illegal things here. If anything we are trying to be the face of Bitcoin and Bitcoin discussion here. If you are doing illegal things, just stop. There are other places for that.

The speed thing really is an issue as well. This forum seems really slow at times already (It's not just me right?). I would really rather not have it be TOR slow. And although I do think more people need to host nodes if they are going to utilize the network, I also know that not everyone is in control of their internet. You have a lot of people using their parents or siblings or spouses internet and I really can't ask them to host something that could in any way become an issue for another person.

I also want to point out that it doesn't always have to be about doing something wrong. I don't want anyone spying on me for any reason at all. I don't need people knowing my buying or spending habits, be it with Bitcoin or cash. I use a card for spending though and I do realize that all of the spending I do on that is logged somewhere. Bitcoin is and will always be a target for this sort of spying though. There are reasons it was made the way it was. It's not about making a currency that can be used for illegal actions. It's about privacy. Something that I believe should be a natural right. I understand that people do illegal things and that Bitcoin gives people the privacy they need in order to complete transactions over the internet. I don't condemn such things, I don't like that they are giving Bitcoin a bad name, but I understand that they would be doing it another way if they didn't have Bitcoin. It's that public image that we need to work on.

I don't think it will become illegal though. If that was able to happen then they would also be able to make trading game currency illegal as well. It's just silly.

So sure, you can go make a TOR forum that mimics this one, but this forum needs to stay here, needs to be fast, and needs to not be doing illegal things. Bitcoin needs a user friendly forum environment that people can utilize. It needs a clean face.

I agree with having an ASICs or BFL forum for these posts.

I also agree with the notion that it would spread pretty damn fast if they didn't issue a refund. People would start pulling out and issue charge backs and all of that. I know I would.

That being said I think people should relax. Honestly. Of course this company gave a date that was far more exciting than the final shipping date... That always happens, even with much larger, much more trusted companies. If you really don't want to wait then cancel your order and let us know how that goes.

This is a project technology guys. It's custom made. This is not them slapping together some GPU/FPGA parts and selling them as a package. It's an entire project. The only thing I would begrudge them for is not giving a more realistic shipping or completion date. But I hold that against so many companies, especially gaming companies.

Just... relax... If you didn't have the money to waste then you shouldn't have paid for some new fangled technology that only has one single purpose and had a release date months down the line...