Although it's possible, you also need to consider that the Federal Reserve and the other Central Banks around the globe will NEVER stop expanding the money supply. Zoom out to the maximum a graph of the "value of fiat". Do the same for Bitcoin's chart.


That's why I support and encourage that Bitcoin-DeFi should be built and further developed so that if we need fiat to invest/buy something, we could simply use it as collateral to borrow fiat. - The user avoids giving up the ownership of his/her Bitcoin.

As long as the amount that you are carving out is within your discretionary income, then no problem, yet it is probably better to make sure that you are accounting for your basic expenses first, before you carve out your bitcoin amount.


Sure.  There is an importance towards prioritizing the bitcoin DCA that surely helps for the amounts to really start to add up over the passage of time... especially if one might be ongoingly DCAing for 1 or 2 cycles, he is likely going to really start to see results, and surely at some various points along the way, the guy may have to assess his level of aggressiveness in terms of his ongoing bitcoin accumulation and determine if he wants to tweak his level upwards or downwards or not.. 


Guys who focus too much on price likely end up employing whimpy buying strategies because they end up being too busy waiting rather than ongoingly buying with persistency, consistency, and regularity.


I would think that it would be better to be a guy who had been accumulating bitcoin since 2017 with an average bitcoin cost of $18k^** and with 15 BTC ($270k invested) rather than a guy who only has 10 BTC and an average cost of $9k per coin ($90k invested). The second guy ended up investing way less and he has a way lower cost per BTC, yet the first guy ended up investing 3x more, and at the same time, he ended up with 50% more BTC than the more whimpy second guy.  We could illustrate how these kinds of things happen to show that variations of this does end up happening with some guys getting distracted into other things  or trying to time their buys rather than ongoingly buying bitcoin.

**By the way, when I looked at this DCA calculator website, I saw that a guy DCAing bitcoin for the past 8 years would have had achieved around a $13.5k average cost per BTC, so I might be being a bit unfair to the first guy to show him having costs of $18k per BTC.

Admittedly both of the guys are in a decent position and the first guy's 15 bitcoin currently have a 200-WMA value of about $770k and a spot value of $1.8 million... which I think that the 200-WMA would allow him to withdraw perpetually at $77k per year. 

The second guy's 10 BTC holdings has a 200-WMA value of $513k and a spot price valuation of nearly $1.2 million, so the second guy could withdraw at a rate of about $51.3k per year. 

Which guy would you rather be?


Sure the factors that you mentioned matter, yet you also seem to be downplaying age and health status.. and of course, age and health status likely tell us something about an investment timeline.  Other guys mention passing on wealth as a goal, and surely I am not opposed to those factors, even though surely guys should be making sure that they are also sufficiently financially covered since sometimes it may not be good to pass on too much to heirs or at least there can be problems to have the heirs as a primary motive - even though people think differently about these kinds of matters.

Of course the devil of a lot of this is in the details, and if we are talking about investment rather than trading or gambling, we still should be approaching bitcoin with an intention of being in it for at least a 4-year timeline to be investing rather than to be trading and/or gambling.  And, yeah, anyone can have something come up in their life that shortens their timeline, yet those issues might not have had been obvious at the time that the guy started in his bitcoin investment.. and yeah some folks might be unrealistic about their age and/or their health status. 

Another measure to offset risk is by individually tailoring position size, and yeah of course, other aspects of finances matter in regards to income versus expenses and other investments that the guy might already have and/or what level of back up funds he might have.. these are all factors.  Risk can be mitigated, and sometimes if there are perceptions of bitcoin's volatility or perceptions of what bitcoin might do as compared with other places that the value can be kept, then position size can help in addressing those kinds of matters too.

I would consider that if guys are drawing from any of their investment prior to reaching overaccumulation status, then they are likely engaging in trading rather than investing, even though various investments are supporting their expenses.

Of course, people do not need to work in order to earn income, yet if you are drawing from various investments and not depleting your principle, then you are engaging in sustainable withdraw, and from my perspective if a withdrawal system is really sustainable, then it should be able to go on perpetually at the same rate of withdrawal without depleting the principle.. In other words, the principle is maintaining its value so the withdrawal rate is less than the asset is appreciating.

Bitcoin is likely amongst the best, if not the best, place to reach sustainable withdrawal status, and surely I personally consider measuring the value of the bitcoin (and thus the sustainable withdrawal rate) from the 200-WMA value of the bitcoin, and it seems that traditional investments tend to ONLY allow around 4% annual sustainable withdrawal rate, yet bitcoin seems to allow something like a 10% sustainable withdrawal rate as long as we are measuring from the 200-WMA rather than measuring from spot prices.

Tom Lee has definitely caught the Ethereum bug. You can tell that is where he has bet his money and it is his main focus. He isn’t shy about saying that he thinks Ethereum will be a better investment return over the next few years. A lot of Wall Street likes yield, so I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he is correct, but Bitcoin is still the best.

I also rested the day before. I really felt good about resting, but after resting for a day, I felt a little lazy to push up the next day. Anyway, seeing the rise in Bitcoin price yesterday, I also thought that Bitcoin might make another new ATH, but yesterday Bitcoin was at $122,000 and fell back to $118,000, but the price increase was not sustainable for long, but it is expected that it can make a new ATH this August.

Today I added 60 push up in 5 sets.

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Well we are seeing some very big gains right now. So I will not be selling any of my Bitcoin.

We are very close to a new all time high and I do think that will be very soon. So for now we should buy some cheaper sats before we do see a new all time high.

https://decrypt.co/334418/bitcoin-price-all-time-high-traders-await-key-inflation-data

I rested yesterday and it felt good, today I'm back. Added 200 more with 20 push-ups in 10 sets as usual.
Bitcoin made another ATH attempt but it wasn't very strong. After hitting over 122k, it pulled back to the 118's. I still see the overall sentiment as positive. It will make new ATH attempts.

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The very idea of an investor selling for small profit is bad enough already and should not be encouraged in my opinion, when they do this, they switch from investing to trading and this is where all their mistakes start piling up for them, no investor's target should be short term, and making profits from small targets is short term investment and while it might seem promising at the time it's always the after effects that's detrimental as they sometimes sell more than the profit made and even sell the capital investment because while you might have made $1k profit during your sale, investing $1k after might afford you less bitcoin than what you sold which leaves you at a lose.
those who buy bitcoin for small profits will definitely know less about the benefits of holding long term since they've probably never experienced it themselves, it's makes more sense for a long term investor to, short term investors invest in short term because they don't know about the benefits of investing long term, to them the short term profit is the best kind of profit to make, if they understood the benefits of investing long term then they would have invested long term so I disagree with them knowing more about the benefits of holding bitcoin for long term as that would mean long term investors know less about the benefits of holding which is very wrong.

What the Heck! Did I just read this?? Haha...@OgNasty you have to finally modify this thread to accommodate lifting things in place of Pushups, haha.

@LOCKACO, this thread is obviously unambiguous to understand, most mates do various exercises daily ranging from sit-up to leg balancing, stairs climbing, squattings and all other exercises like hiking, jogging and co. Those are all meant to balance up your feelings as a person who is seeking fitness wholly and not for report purposes. Here we report only the pushups since that's the goal of the thread.

Lifting solid blocks could be very tasking and exhausting and also requires physical fitness to be able to do it. Keep up the grind and don't compete with anyone here, only push at your own pace. You can also choose to carry out your pushups before going to site to keep you fit for the day and also to avoid the fatigue that comes from the day training.

You resurface again. A very I believe that you have come to realise your personal benefit from daily pushups and now made up your mind to be back to the exercise. Pushups exercises is not an easy one especially for beginners due to the initial pain a person feels due to sudden change of body conditioning which makes you want to quit, but when you push little further, you overcome the extreme pain and you realise how you can easily do your pushups effortlessly.
You're much welcome back to the Pushups daily exercises  and we are happy that the bench has lost another member. As a student it can be so pressing and exhausting to combine your school activities with such strenuous exercise especially in the early stages when you may encounter serious muscle pains which can even make you unable to go for your school activities. However even students need fitness too.

I would advise you to use this end of semester holidays to go through your first 3 weeks of continuous daily pushups. This will help you to get through the pain which comes from the early days of engaging in pushups and it will help you to be able to engage in pushup when school reopens each morning before leaving for school with out much pain or stress. You can also target improving the number of your pushups per set and the number of sets you carry out daily. This should be done gradually, I don't mean waking up today to do a 100 pushups in a set, slow and steady you will see yourself achieving the number you desire.
Haha, the stern warning got me rolling. It it good to have you back and just like he @EFS already said you don't have to slack back again. When you do your pushups, don't intend pushing beyond your capacity just to gather a lot of pushups in one rep, you can spread it all through the day and you will find out that even if you are doing 10 pushups per rep, and you spread it over 1 hour intervals, you would be having over 100 pushups with in the active 12 hours which is a good number. When you push, also monitor your body system and don't push beyond your capacity. Eat well, drink more water and get every possible rest you can at all time.



I reported wrongly yesterday and @Dirtykeyboards engine couldn't pick it, double ",". I have also edited the post now. How did I even make such mistake.

Day 4, Thursday;

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