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Re: Do NOT trust Braiins OS+ - shady company, takes up to 10% dev fee and more
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Lanaa
on 18/04/2023, 04:16:42 UTC
The answer is stop making fake users to spread the same old lies, you were banned because of your own attitude (threats) so its your fault.
Stop infringing cgminer and code your own mining software with that mountain of money you have collected in "dev" fees. Or release code.


Lol, making fake users… you need help
Kano is not making fake users, I’m not a fake user, in fact Kano kicked me out of his pool over some silly argument so no, and I noticed you accuse everyone that disagrees with you to be a fake user. In every topic. Including stratum v2 ones.

This topic literally turned into a Kano vs Artemis fight from the beginning (again… you guys need help)
Was expecting it to be something more productive, but looking back now I see that personal feuds are more important here than anything.
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Re: Do NOT trust Braiins OS+ - shady company, takes up to 10% dev fee and more
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Lanaa
on 02/09/2022, 08:49:07 UTC
Well, if you want to find out, mine against your own pool. Its not like there is not a pool operator posting here for some reason...

The fee is 2.5%, this is immutable and hard coded. For S9, it is 2%, also hard coded and immutable. There are no choices of changing this. Unlike other firmware, you cannot add hidden groups on top of the existing one by request, whitelabel, or whatever.

Point it to your own pool locally and measure, you will get either 97.5% or 98% of the hashrate. The miner dashboard reports 100% (Real) hashrate, the pool will only get 97.5% or 98% from that.

If you add groups and assign a fixed ratio, you will notice there is a hidden group always taking 2.5%, so you only have 97.5% available to split. Its not 90%, 95%, or whatever random fake account of the month decides to invent because they don't like when i point the fact that all other firmware infringes cgminer license while Braiins doesn't. Too bad that pool operator doesn't care and prefers to join the badmouthing crowd without proof, as usual.

Farm proxy is another project, and has a different license. It has no fees, can be used without Braiins OS.

None of what you said answers any of the questions I posed in the original post. My post covers communications with your team and your very own license that disputes everything you just said. I can only assume you 1) didn't read my post, or 2) know exactly what you're doing and giving a politician-type answer - not answering the question and just repeating numbers, as Kano said.

Again, why not simply make a feature in Braiins OS+ that SHOWS where your hash rate is going and how much? Wouldn't that make everything a lot simpler? Or is it because you take 10% dev fees (or more, who knows? its closed source) according to your own license that I had to spend 2 weeks getting out of your support team.
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Re: Do NOT trust Braiins OS+ - shady company, takes up to 10% dev fee and more
by
Lanaa
on 10/08/2022, 01:34:26 UTC

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Why would Bitmain prevent you, the customer, from making it difficult to install a custom firmware?

That doesn't mean bitmain is a guardian angel, they lock their firmware in a very disgusting way, you can't even change the fan speed, the only firmware that had a few options was the multi-option firmware for the S9 and after that you could hardly do anything with your miner, besides, bitmain don't want to deal with support/warranty tickets, overclocking your miner makes it more likely to break.

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Bitmain calls custom firmwares viruses on their official website - is that not what this all is?

Just another false claim by the devil Bitmain, in fact, most viruses I heard of or dealt with personally like Nightswitcher, Antbuild were in the stock firmware, of course, that doesn't mean custom firmware are not subject to the same viruses, but after all, most of these viruses are the result of reckless actions take by the miner's owner.

In the end, as I said, I don't use BO+, I wouldn't advise anyone to not/use it, but I think it's somehow unfair to read out of context and claim the fees are 10% without having had a proper test.

Thanks for the info, I understand that Braiins has benefits over stock and we are agreeing on the same things. I don’t believe Bitmain is a guardian angel but my purpose of the post is to hold Braiins to account as well. I have no doubt your claims are true, but it doesn’t exempt them from criticism. Braiins is a for-profit company, just like Bitmain is - we should see no difference between them.

Antbleed was a theoretical “exploit” and has never been spotted in the wild, Bitmain offered a explanation for it (which I take with a grain of salt), but compare it to the fact that there’s 1000s of devices sending hash rate to slushpool at a much higher rate than users know. I believe that is a much bigger issue and is more of a “virus”.

The license is not taken out of context, I provided the link and posted a specific part that doesn’t seem to make sense. I’d love if Braiins would clarify any of this.
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Re: Do NOT trust Braiins OS+ - shady company, takes up to 10% dev fee (w/ proof)
by
Lanaa
on 09/08/2022, 23:16:21 UTC
As for the firmware itself, there are plenty of users who have reported lower energy use along with the same or better poolside hashrate. So from anecdotal evidence there are many people who use it and are satisfied.
Some people have seen no benefit or even worse results, even in the same farm. So at a guess if the equipment is already at it's limit there is very little else that can be done.

Would I use it? No, but that's me and my choice, I would not stop anyone from using it if they felt it worked for them.

-Dave

My point of making this post was not to bash on Braiins OS as a firmware or it’s efficiency. It was to raise awareness about about Braiins’ misleading claims and deceptive practices. These are some pretty big issues ignored by the mining community as we tend to have a “every man for themselves” attitude - which is normal but personally I would try to stop people from using it, or at the very least, hope to get an answer from Braiins.
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Re: Do NOT trust Braiins OS+ - shady company, takes up to 10% dev fee (w/ proof)
by
Lanaa
on 06/08/2022, 19:04:17 UTC
... the aforementioned 10% dev fee.....

From what I am reading, it's not saying 10% it's saying 2% to 2.5% +/- 10% so it can be as low as 1.8% or as high as 2.75% and although I don't think many people would care about it being 10% less there are a lot of people who would complain about 10% more.

And with a tiny bit of network knowledge and equipment it's easy to see where where data is flowing to and from for your miner. And see where and what is being done. MANY people dislike aftermarket mining software and would love to stand up and scream and show proof of what it's doing. A bit of wireshark and you can see every packet coming in and out of your miner. Now that's not to say they could not be doing other things in the background. i.e. underclock and undervolt when mining for you and overclock and overvolt when mining for them, but in reality that much extra programing and work for what would in the end be not that much more hash is probably not worth it.

-Dave

I believe a lot of people would care if its 10%.

Your second point brings me to my concern with Stratum V2 that I mentioned - the protocol Braiins is aggressively spearheading. This would not allow you to see any packets with Wireshark nor what they contain.

Not going to comment on what you believe is worth it or not, I believe it is and we can disagree on that.
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Re: Do NOT trust Braiins OS+ - shady company, takes up to 10% dev fee (w/ proof)
by
Lanaa
on 06/08/2022, 16:40:35 UTC
Looking at https://web.archive.org/web/20220207120417/https://braiins.com/os/plus/license the license page was there as of 7 Feb 2022 so between then and when you forced an archive back in July it changed. Could have been 2 minutes before you clicked on it or it could have been 2 minutes after the last archiving. Unless someone else archived it someplace else we can't know.

As for the percentages / hash rate some people feel the power savings and speed improvements that *they* see is worth it. As always YMMV. Some people have discussed good speed improvements and much lower power use. Others, like you have seen very little or none. If you have hardware that can be pushed harder at a lower voltage you will probably benefit more then someone putting it on an old & abused miner that can't do much more.

-Dave

Hi Dave, thanks for noticing that out. Regardless, it was gone since then, for an entire 6 months, and I made numerous attempts to tell them to correct it, they haven't. Regardless, I feel like the bigger issue here is a 10% dev fee. I have emails from their support (and they can confirm this) that they updated that page only a few days ago.

I disagree with your second point because a) I've seen a improvement in hash rate and power use with stock firmware and b) the aforementioned 10% dev fee.
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Do NOT trust Braiins OS+ - shady company, takes up to 10% dev fee (w/ proof)
by
Lanaa
on 06/08/2022, 14:49:10 UTC
⭐ Merited by mikeywith (2)
Hi everyone,

I’d like to start by saying I gain nothing at all from posting this. I just want to let everyone know of this company's shady practices. If people call me a troll because I have one post, well, I can only say I warned you.

I was considering switching to Braiins OS+ recently, and came across the website. Here’s what their FAQ
says about the “dev fee”:

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When you use Braiins OS+, we collect a 2-2.5% dev fee (depending on hardware model) by directing that percentage of your hashing power to our pool. It’s up to you which pool you mine with for the remaining 97.5-98%. Note that the dev fee is never exactly the specified percentage of your total hashing power, as this number is always changing in real-time whenever you are mining. However, it will always remain within a fixed tolerance as described in the License.

When you click on the License hyperlink it takes you to the License for their other product, Farm Proxy. (https://braiins.com/farm-proxy/license) That license makes no mention of a dev fee.


Now here is the interesting part.

I changed the URL to go to braiins(.)com/os/plus/license and there was a 404 error.
I proceeded to save this page on the Waybackmachine on archive.org (on July 26th) - you can check it out here: https://web.archive.org/web/20220726060453/braiins.com/os/plus/license

(I will explain later in this post why I saved it on archive.org)

I contacted their team about this, and here's what they had to say:

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I'll follow up on it from our team and will let you know ASAP.

Regards,

--
Behzad
Support Team

braiins.com I slushpool.com


They did not correct the link. As of today, they still haven’t. 

I contacted them again, and asked if they could simply send a link to the real license, as they must’ve made one. I got a reply 3 or 4 days later on 2022-08-04, and it was exactly what I assumed they would do.

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You can read Braiins OS+ license here: https://braiins.com/os/plus/license

Regards,

--
Behzad
Support Team

braiins.com I slushpool.com

So theres that. They changed the link that I saved earlier that goes to a 404 page to show the real license (apparently last updated on March 30, 2020, by the way). You can check it yourself, and here's what it says:

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You acknowledge that due to the nature of computing power and computing power routing it is not technically possible to always assign the exact percentage of computing power. Therefore, You acknowledge that the amount of computing power actually assigned by the Software at the start of each session is random and it takes few seconds before a correct percentage of computing power is assigned. For the same reasons the amount of computing power assigned at any given time to perform processing operations for Braiins may be as much as 10 % higher or lower than the amount agreed above according to the section 5 hereof.


Now, what do we see from all this?


  • Braiins only added the license for their site after I asked them for it
  • The original link to the license on every page of their site still goes to https://braiins.com/farm-proxy/license as of today
  • The license says the computing power at the "start of every session" is random and takes few seconds before a "correct percentage ... is assigned". Yet in the next sentence, it then says "the amount of computing power assigned at any given time to perform processing operations for Braiins may be as much as 10 % higher or lower"
  • Braiins OS+ is closed source, and theres no way in the software to show how much is going to this "dev fee". It simply shows the total hash rate, always.


My advice for everyone is to use the stock Bitmain firmware (the company Artemis here seems to hate with a passion) because it gives the exact same hash rate as Braiins OS+. Yes, it really does. For example, on an Antminer S9 their new firmware gives several options, and one of them is to increase the hash rate by 2TH. I tried this myself, and my hash rate is 16.5th/s - the exact same I got with Braiins.

I wish people here would stop blindly trusting shady firmwares without reading into things and start asking questions. What is a dev fee? Where can we see it? Why is the link for their license going to a different product?

In my opinion, this is a huge issue and a stain on Braiins. I can no longer trust them, I can no longer support the Stratum V2 that they are spearheading since it seems like an obvious way to encrypt data from their dev fee to their server (as much as up to 10%) without anyone noticing.
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Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 266 blocks solved!
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Lanaa
on 12/05/2022, 09:14:47 UTC
Is there any positive or negative impact on mining if I manually set the "suggest-diff" value higher than what the pool is currently feeding my miners?  

I have some old dusty S7's that are running around 4.4k diff and the utility is 17.  Was wondering if it hurts or helps anything setting diff to 10k or even higher. Last time I tried it the utility dropped to 5 but was getting much higher bestshare. Just wondering if tweaking that setting has any benefit.
No, you can't game anything at all. Think about it, if there was a way to improve your mining, everyone would be doing it. All you're doing is altering the feedback you get for your mining. It has no positive nor negative benefit.

Jesus, dude. The man wasn’t trying to “game” anything, he was just wondering what the effect would be to set a higher diff for his old miners.

We are all using your program, on a pool you made. What do you mean “think about it”? Not only that, but as a developer you surely know that everyone wouldn’t be doing something if you had not created it and put it out for the community. I appreciate the work you’ve done but if you’re going to do create things for people to use and then go on to engage in conversation with them, they deserve better replies (even if you’ve answered his question 100 times before)
One post huh? Nice.


It seems like the BTC price drop has gotten you cranky.

Again, I appreciate everything you’ve done but I know what it’s like to create something and deal with the everyday users — it gets frustrating, you take out your frustration on people who you just assume should know better. I’ve made this error and continue to make it and am merely offering some humble advice.

I also was not aware that my post count means anything, I’ve been a part of this community since 2010 and I’ve simply never had anything meaningful to say until now. I think you can do that as well.

edit: it seems you deleted my reply… how strange that my post count determines whether or not I’m allowed to speak  
Nonsense, and there was nothing cranky about my reply which happened long before the shitcoin induced falls. You're the sensitive one if you found it sensitive. No user from 2010 posts 12 years later
Date Registered:    Today at 06:20:34 PM
You're clearly just a triggered user creating a shadow account. Now kindly do us a favour and piss off.

You are assuming a whole lot based on the fact that I just didn’t make an account here. I’d expect this from any other forum or person, but apparently on Bitcointalk.org a new user cannot talk about Bitcoin.
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Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 266 blocks solved!
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Lanaa
on 12/05/2022, 09:04:20 UTC
Is there any positive or negative impact on mining if I manually set the "suggest-diff" value higher than what the pool is currently feeding my miners?  

I have some old dusty S7's that are running around 4.4k diff and the utility is 17.  Was wondering if it hurts or helps anything setting diff to 10k or even higher. Last time I tried it the utility dropped to 5 but was getting much higher bestshare. Just wondering if tweaking that setting has any benefit.
No, you can't game anything at all. Think about it, if there was a way to improve your mining, everyone would be doing it. All you're doing is altering the feedback you get for your mining. It has no positive nor negative benefit.

Jesus, dude. The man wasn’t trying to “game” anything, he was just wondering what the effect would be to set a higher diff for his old miners.

We are all using your program, on a pool you made. What do you mean “think about it”? Not only that, but as a developer you surely know that everyone wouldn’t be doing something if you had not created it and put it out for the community. I appreciate the work you’ve done but if you’re going to do create things for people to use and then go on to engage in conversation with them, they deserve better replies (even if you’ve answered his question 100 times before)
One post huh? Nice.

It seems like the BTC price drop has gotten you cranky.

Again, I appreciate everything you’ve done but I know what it’s like to create something and deal with the everyday users — it gets frustrating, you take out your frustration on people who you just assume should know better. I’ve made this error and continue to make it and am merely offering some humble advice.

I also was not aware that my post count means anything, I’ve been a part of this community since 2010 and I’ve simply never had anything meaningful to say until now. I think you can do that as well.
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Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 266 blocks solved!
by
Lanaa
on 12/05/2022, 08:42:40 UTC
Is there any positive or negative impact on mining if I manually set the "suggest-diff" value higher than what the pool is currently feeding my miners?  

I have some old dusty S7's that are running around 4.4k diff and the utility is 17.  Was wondering if it hurts or helps anything setting diff to 10k or even higher. Last time I tried it the utility dropped to 5 but was getting much higher bestshare. Just wondering if tweaking that setting has any benefit.
No, you can't game anything at all. Think about it, if there was a way to improve your mining, everyone would be doing it. All you're doing is altering the feedback you get for your mining. It has no positive nor negative benefit.

Jesus, dude. The man wasn’t trying to “game” anything, he was just wondering what the effect would be to set a higher diff for his old miners.

We are all using your program, on a pool you made. What do you mean “think about it”? Not only that, but as a developer you surely know that everyone wouldn’t be doing something if you had not created it and put it out for the community. I appreciate the work you’ve done but if you’re going to do create things for people to use and then go on to engage in conversation with them, they deserve better replies (even if you’ve answered his question 100 times before)