Yup, I've been through multiple GPU rigs, asicminer usb sticks, 65nm BFL stuff, a bunch of Antminer S1s and S3s and I knew beforehand that I would be kind of suckling off Satan's anus or at least dead demon's teats when mining with the Monarchs. I asked for it!
But after all the initial confusion I think soon I'm done here. I'm fine with their performance, noise and the power consumption. I'll still do some testing when I have the time and wait for the units to piss on my carpet, then overheat and burn my house down. If that doesn't happen, then I'm pleasantly surprised.
Don't worry about the angry mob, lol. Obviously there are Monarchs in the wild and people are actually mining with them, myself included. So please continue to share your experiences so others may learn from you or perhaps offer some help.
Countdown to shill accusations in... 3... 2... 1
By all means let us not stop you from "praising" BFL and their products you are certainly making it very clear that these things are unsupported and fraught with disaster unless you have the requisite skills or a direct line like Lightfoot / Mr. Teal to support from Bruce and others in BFL. Mining is pretty much dead anyhow small scale so watching a few Monarchs mine after adding on hundreds of dollars in extras and hours and hours of support from the BFL defacto service team is simply an education in the lengths BFL is willing to go to support a narrative that they are some how here to help the community with their product. All one has to do is compare BFL with companies that actually ship on time and provide customer support in real time.
What have you spent in time and money so far to get one miner working to the specifications that BFL promised originally in 2013? We obviously can see that the size of the unit and configuration is not data center ready by any means compared to plug play units from the competition that do not require intensive care to run or water cooling.
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FYI, Joshassfucked (and his alternate accounts) is the only person on this forum I have on ignore. Lots of anger and precious little content coming from him.
If you are curious about how much work is really being done: mine one monarch with CGminer on one pool account for a week and the other with BFGminer on a different pool account. Then swap accounts, run for another week and compare the outcomes.
The short answer is you got a product with mediocre quality at best, no customer support, and alpha software supporting it (not the fault of the developers, BFL is responsible for providing SDKs and developer support). I would be amazed if a single monarch is functional after 6 months of mining.
Hope things work out.
Unlike other units say from Spondoolies Tech that seem stable as bedrock and have unbelievable support and far cheaper.
Obviously the people buying these Monarchs are doing it either as 'paid' publicity for BFL as they have done so in the past or strictly for the novelty or challenge to get them working optimally. Seems like a waste of money and effort to publicize BFL at this stage given the FTC will basically denude them of every stolen bitcoin. And whatever is undiscovered will certainly be visible to the FBI or IRS if it does surface eventually. What is also interesting is the steadfast support of 3 major players, Josh Zerlan, SLok and Bruce Peterson in the scam who have proven they astro turf the BFL record whenever and wherever possible. This thread is just one more iteration of that campaign especially when those 3 make an appearance.
If pricing were part of it then everyone should have a low rating! Nothing being sold at retail will make a positive ROI even with free power.
And that makes any guide at this point useless. This might be the end of this portion of the forum considering it was the user coming here to discuss hardware that made it relevant. As time goes on there will be no more interest or users.
Why does it have to be about ROI?
Alot of people mine simply because they can...
It's not about the ohh shit ROI in 2 months to me.
It's about the ohh shit broke ROI 6 times over after a year to me.
It doesn't but you are not going to get 100s of people coming here to buy things that don't ROI. Games over for the home user and by default this forum will fade as fewer people engage in this hobby.
That is complete garbage and you know it.
There's actually more miners then there ever was.
Do you understand how difficulty works?
It gets harder and harder to mine to reach this ROI you speak of.
It requires you to get bigger and faster miners to compete.
If anything the Bitcoin Network relies on fast confirmation times and blocks to be mined so if anything all that will happen is the miners will turn into centralization or work together with other miners.
I don't see people ever stopping their purchasing of Bitcoin Miners nor do I see anyone stopping even SCRYPT ASiC Purchases now.
Your logic is flawed and obviously you have not been around since a Bitcoin was worth a couple of dollars each.
Logic is flawed?
We will see who is BUYING but I dare say it won't be a public consumer at home.
Consolidation will continue and those people buying are not coming here to debate the value of one producer over another. This forum is becoming less relevant every day. What you will see from this point forward are the death throws of some companies and the continued complaint threads about the latest scam or legal play against other companies. Whatever is cutting edge is being developed for commercial customers not the small home user.
You are naive to think the same market continues today as it did in 2009 or 2010 or 2011 and so on.
If pricing were part of it then everyone should have a low rating! Nothing being sold at retail will make a positive ROI even with free power.
And that makes any guide at this point useless. This might be the end of this portion of the forum considering it was the user coming here to discuss hardware that made it relevant. As time goes on there will be no more interest or users.
Why does it have to be about ROI?
Alot of people mine simply because they can...
It's not about the ohh shit ROI in 2 months to me.
It's about the ohh shit broke ROI 6 times over after a year to me.
It doesn't but you are not going to get 100s of people coming here to buy things that don't ROI. Games over for the home user and by default this forum will fade as fewer people engage in this hobby.
If pricing were part of it then everyone should have a low rating! Nothing being sold at retail will make a positive ROI even with free power.
And that makes any guide at this point useless. This might be the end of this portion of the forum considering it was the user coming here to discuss hardware that made it relevant. As time goes on there will be no more interest or users.
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Well, if they were not under receivership then we could at least ask them what was in the code, if they could open-source it, how the 4.2.0 BFG code works, etc.
You have a direct line to them just ask Bruce to call Nasser they talk regularly. You were in contact with Bruce and SLok before the shutdown it would have been very easy for you to ask for that given you are a regular on the BFL forums and here making a point to draw consumer attention to BFL miners. You can't deny the special relationship you have with BFL.
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Given the recent shady behavior of the Marketing group for BFL and what they did with "buttcoins".... am I putting on my tinfoil hat when thinking that the real LostDutchman could have sold his account to the BFL marketing group and now they are attempting to pull in funds for a positive marketing campaign using bitcointalk forum users funds and then later blaming things on technical issues with the software/proxies not working correctly and not making enough posts, resulting in a positive SEO campaign for BFL
So I did what any crazy person would do and bought me another Monarch on wednesday. This time it was a regular auction on ebay. 230 pounds / 290 euros, so a tad cheaper than my first "550GH" unit.
The board seems to be a different revision. It's a "700 GH" model with a mini-usb connector (which the 550 GH model didn't have) next to the pci-e power connectors.
The problem is that it's running too hot, above 80 C and the board starts throttling after only a few minutes of running. Power draw is 570 watts from the wall at 800 GH/s.
So it would be great to have a method to underclock this thing as I don't really need the extra GH/s with a bigger power draw and overheating.
By the way, Raspberry Pi with Raspbian OS and cgminer 4.6.1 seems to run two Monarchs just fine. CPU load is ~0.40.
If you have a board that is running at 800gh and pulling 570 watts, you are getting close to the limit for the PCIe connectors. To try and cool it off I would recommend trying one or more of the following: 1) more powerful fan on the radiator (stock is ~.33-.5 amp, try to find a 1 amp or bigger) 2) point a fan at the VRM (the space between the pumps) 3) find a cooler location for the unit. I'm curious, are you using BFGminer or CGminer? I know there was talk of commandline underclocking of the units, but I don't know if either program has it implemented as yet.
Maybe two weeks? We are waiting for the test lab to issue the test report.
With the bump in power requirements on the MR and the new screen, we had to make changes, although the new screen is already certified. We are doing all the devices at once, since they all share the same board.
I am sure that our good friend Phin or Google can reveal more evidence.
So that would be another instance of a lie told to customers. There were no FCC marks on any of their miners. There were no tests even conducted on their miners by the FCC. This would go to false advertising as well.