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Re: Announcing the FutureBit Apollo BTC - A Full Node/Mining Platform for the Home!
Mine arrived yesterday 
The most quiet/efficient/cheap? miner I've used so far. I've tried the 3 "default" modes and i'm pretty sure I saw more than 3.5TH on "Turbo" mode, fantastic And with a rasp pi and all the cables hidden behind it's like a tiny cube in my room.
Edit: Quick question. I'm using the 'official' 200w psu. In the sh it says to put the power value at 75 max with this psu.
How much TH would be with 100? Which psu should I use for that? (I mean I could use the corsair sf450 but im pretty sure that 450W 80+ would be overkill)
The most quiet/efficient/cheap? miner I've used so far. I've tried the 3 "default" modes and i'm pretty sure I saw more than 3.5TH on "Turbo" mode, fantastic
And with a rasp pi and all the cables hidden behind it's like a tiny cube in my room.Edit: Quick question. I'm using the 'official' 200w psu. In the sh it says to put the power value at 75 max with this psu.
How much TH would be with 100? Which psu should I use for that? (I mean I could use the corsair sf450 but im pretty sure that 450W 80+ would be overkill)
FYI the stock psu is more than adequate to properly run in turbo mode. I asked earlier in this thread if you want the answer from the source.
The only real reason I see to use a higher output PSU is to go beyond the turbo mode to maximize hash rate. I ran 4 units like this for about a day or two and while the units did perform flawlessly at their peak performance, the small room I had them in got ridiculously hot and obviously the fans were much louder. The amount of heat they generated made me very uncomfortable and you void your warranty doing this.
Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread
May be of interest to those looking to get more hash power from their units. Seen others mention using this PSU on the Apollos, no personal experience with them - but I'm exploring it.
https://slickdeals.net/f/15660049-corsair-rm750x-modular-750w-gold-psu-83-at-amazon
https://slickdeals.net/f/15660049-corsair-rm750x-modular-750w-gold-psu-83-at-amazon
Great deal! The stock power supplies are rated for 200watts and in turbo mode I was seeing 201watts in turbo. Isn’t this bad? I thought you’re supposed to leave a 20% buffer so that you’re not maxing out the psu?
I tested these units on a 750w psu as well and if you abide by the 80% rule, you’ll need higher than an 850w unit if you’re going to run more than two units.
I don’t recommend running these at max settings. I don’t live in a cold climate and these got really hot fast! 75C and the room was hot. I went from 12.5th/s in turbo @ 800watts to 14.5th/s at 1050watts for 4 units (two 750w psus). Each unit saw about 266wats at full speed.
Mine runs at 205w on turbo mode
Okay...and if your psu is rated for only 200w and you're operating above the 80% (which would be 160w) doesn't that concern you at all?
The FutureBit PSU is already derated to 80%, its designed to run @ 200 watts 24/7. If this was a normal ATX PSU it would be marketed as a "250W" PSU.
Thanks! That actually makes me feel much more comfortable.
Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread
May be of interest to those looking to get more hash power from their units. Seen others mention using this PSU on the Apollos, no personal experience with them - but I'm exploring it.
https://slickdeals.net/f/15660049-corsair-rm750x-modular-750w-gold-psu-83-at-amazon
https://slickdeals.net/f/15660049-corsair-rm750x-modular-750w-gold-psu-83-at-amazon
Great deal! The stock power supplies are rated for 200watts and in turbo mode I was seeing 201watts in turbo. Isn’t this bad? I thought you’re supposed to leave a 20% buffer so that you’re not maxing out the psu?
I tested these units on a 750w psu as well and if you abide by the 80% rule, you’ll need higher than an 850w unit if you’re going to run more than two units.
I don’t recommend running these at max settings. I don’t live in a cold climate and these got really hot fast! 75C and the room was hot. I went from 12.5th/s in turbo @ 800watts to 14.5th/s at 1050watts for 4 units (two 750w psus). Each unit saw about 266wats at full speed.
Mine runs at 205w on turbo mode
Okay...and if your psu is rated for only 200w and you're operative above the 80% (which would be 160w) doesn't that concern you at all?
Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread
May be of interest to those looking to get more hash power from their units. Seen others mention using this PSU on the Apollos, no personal experience with them - but I'm exploring it.
https://slickdeals.net/f/15660049-corsair-rm750x-modular-750w-gold-psu-83-at-amazon
https://slickdeals.net/f/15660049-corsair-rm750x-modular-750w-gold-psu-83-at-amazon
Great deal! The stock power supplies are rated for 200watts and in turbo mode I was seeing 201watts in turbo. Isn’t this bad? I thought you’re supposed to leave a 20% buffer so that you’re not maxing out the psu?
I tested these units on a 750w psu as well and if you abide by the 80% rule, you’ll need higher than an 850w unit if you’re going to run more than two units.
I don’t recommend running these at max settings. I don’t live in a cold climate and these got really hot fast! 75C and the room was hot. I went from 12.5th/s in turbo @ 800watts to 14.5th/s at 1050watts for 4 units (two 750w psus)
Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread
a buddy of mine got 2 full versions and has both plugged in but I can't port forward 8333 twice is there a way to change the port number on the 2nd one?
AFAIK, the only reason to port forward is to run a node. Why would he need to run two nodes from the same IP? Just turn the node off on the unit that can't be port forwarded?
Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread
verify that the cable used to connect two units is a mini usb to mini usb.
Can you give me a link to something on amazon so I know what to order as an example.
Can you give me a link to something on amazon so I know what to order as an example.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0135/3193/8875/files/mini-vs-micro-usb_large.jpg?v=1557770667
Re: i have 400$, i cannot buy a good miner, is cloud mining a good idea in this case
Some years ago I have used cex.io service of Cloud mining (yet some years ago they have offered that service and It was also possible trade computational Power).
At a certain point the whole process become completely inefficient with high fees, and practically negative gain or ROI (at this point as suggested you can earn more Just hodl your Coin or with DeFi etc).
Most of Cloud mining sites are just Ponzi all user with experience agree on that and you can check by yourself... No sites provide real proof of mining but Just fake information.
At a certain point the whole process become completely inefficient with high fees, and practically negative gain or ROI (at this point as suggested you can earn more Just hodl your Coin or with DeFi etc).
Most of Cloud mining sites are just Ponzi all user with experience agree on that and you can check by yourself... No sites provide real proof of mining but Just fake information.
Look into DeFi projects. I keep seeing your posts about $400 lol
Re: Announcing the FutureBit Apollo BTC - A Full Node/Mining Platform for the Home!
I got my notification and can't wait to try out one of these bad boys. Great to know they're getting out the door.
Received my miners today and they're now up and running without too much difficulty in their setup. Pool is showing them bouncing around between 2.5th/s and 3.5th/s which I believe is probably normal. Sound levels are nonexistent in the room with my GPUs. They are pretty much exactly what I expected (having to run multiple instances of the mining software was the only real surprise). Granted I wish mining profitability was a little better currently, but you can't have it all.
Can you elaborate on the multiple instances piece? What do you mean exactly? Is this for each standard unit connected to the main one?
Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread
So I recommend to those who have problems similar to this, first to terminate the synchronization process of the entire blockchain and deactivate the mining process by holding Apollo Full Node in a not too hot environment and then when the node has finished synchronizing all the blockchain start the mining process.
Yep, overheating of Orange Pi 4 controller is causing a lot of trouble, as we discussed earlier in the thread.As crypto_curious said, ideally it would have a bit more space between the SBC and hashboard, at least that way you could install a slightly thicker fan for better cooling. I found it difficult to source a replacement fan in the thickness thats required (6mm) most were 10mm, which IMO wouldve been the better choice for cooling and noise levels.
Yes I'd love to see that improvement, or something similar. Just a little bit more of breathing space.. and thicker fan would fit no problem.Issue with cooling on the SBC is only relevant for 100% CPU load sustained for hours and either a hot environment or running mining past ECO. This should only happen during initial node sync and we recommend everyone to either not mine during this time or make sure its in a cool environment in eco mode.
Its not worth putting in a faster/noisier fan for a very small case/usage pattern of the device and is a trade off we intentionally made.
We the users, are not happy about this trade off. Please reconsider this. This trade off is preventing users from using the device as intended, as they wish, for example as fully functional desktop device (as it has been advertised to users).
You don’t speak for me. I’m fine with quieter performance. Short term pain for long term gain.
If you are going to hold it for a long time I think you should consider staking it rather than holding it for logical reason that by staking it you would be able to earn more of that token rather than just sitting pretty on your wallet right? If I would hold coins I would just rather stake it than just holding it.
This is exactly what I was thinking. If you're an investor, staking is good. If you're a trader then staking not so good depending on the lock period.
I'm a long term investor, so I don't really follow theogic when people say staking is bad in a bearish market. Nobody is all that great at timing the market and if you follow Buffet and seek to invest in coins with promise and potential over shallow pump and dump/sh!tcoins, then time in the market is better than timing the market. Sure you can take profits and exit but you might also miss the bottom and a fast rebound pump.
I think of staking like dividends. In a bear market they're reducing my cost basis. In an bull market they're inceasing my holdings. End of.
Re: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread
just got my used unit home. it booted up fine first startup, but i couldnt login so i tried the reflash-method. and now it seems it wont boot at all. the ethernet-connection lights up and flashes, but i cant seem to get any ip-address to sign in to the miner.
what am i doing wrong and what can i do to fix it? unit has been loading for 10 minutes now.
i even tried reflashing it again, with the newest firmware available.
its a full-node package and im using my own 1600W EVGA T1 power supply.
help PLS!
//edit//
Red light on front is lighting up solid, a small green light is lights up on the blue controlboard, a red LED is lighting up right next to the SSD, and it looks like a red light is lighting up below the controlboard towards the hashboard?
what am i doing wrong and what can i do to fix it? unit has been loading for 10 minutes now.
i even tried reflashing it again, with the newest firmware available.
its a full-node package and im using my own 1600W EVGA T1 power supply.
help PLS!
//edit//
Red light on front is lighting up solid, a small green light is lights up on the blue controlboard, a red LED is lighting up right next to the SSD, and it looks like a red light is lighting up below the controlboard towards the hashboard?
Ciao Emilio1992, I also have the same problem as you for days and days and I almost went crazy trying to solve it, maybe I succeeded. Last night I wrote to Futurebit support and they replied that most likely my Apollo BTC Miner goes into temperature overheating and therefore to deactivate the mining process until the node is fully synchronized. Probably the mining process together with the download of the blockchain and the synchronization of the node in addition to an environment that is not cold but at ambient temperature (about 21 ° C) overheats our Apollo BTC too much and disconnects from the network to avoid damage from temperature or operation . In fact, when this happens I turn off the miner for about ten minutes and when I turn it back on the IP reappears and I can access it from the web dashboard. Now I have turned off the mining process and I am only synchronizing the node (I have reached 98%) when everything is synchronized I will start the mining process and see the results. However, I have already ordered two 120mm fans on amazon to be placed on the sides to cool it even more. I hope to solve bye...
This happens because small (40mm?) fan underneath Orange Pi 4 controller has been artificially slowed down by using 3.3V instead of default 5V. This causes overheat of the controller. It's a design flaw and should be fixed by manufacturer.
Adding two 120mm fans to cool down tiny controller is total overkill, what you should do, is to fix this small 40mm fan, not adding more fans.
How did you fix this? By buying a 5v fan?
Also according to this, going with 5v fans add about 10 decibles to noise but I didn't see a huge cooling improvement:
https://www.martinrowan.co.uk/2019/09/raspberry-pi-4-40mm-fan-comparison/
Re: Announcing the FutureBit Apollo BTC - A Full Node/Mining Platform for the Home!
https://shop.futurebit.io/ I can see standard w/o power available for order now.if you are interesting.
Oh, interesting! The SSD was upgraded to 1TB. From which batch on will that be? Batch 3? Batch 4? I remember FutureBit guys still saying 500 was easily enough a few months back. Cool to see they changed their mind; just wondering when to expect the 'cutoff' between 500GB full packages and 1TB ones.From what I read, all of the Batch 3 units were upgraded.
Re: Announcing the FutureBit Apollo BTC - A Full Node/Mining Platform for the Home!
Thanks, J! Very cool.
We admire the mission of reaching the masses and maximizing decentralization.
I purchased my first four units from you last round and am planning to purchase 4 more next pre-order. For those of us who are a little more hash hungry, does FutureBit have any future plans to offer a more premium model that would retain its quiet operation and power via normal household outlets? Perhaps a 2 or 3-in-one deluxe unit or would that be pushing the boundaries or the last two benefits I mentioned?
Thanks in advance! Love your work!
We admire the mission of reaching the masses and maximizing decentralization.
I purchased my first four units from you last round and am planning to purchase 4 more next pre-order. For those of us who are a little more hash hungry, does FutureBit have any future plans to offer a more premium model that would retain its quiet operation and power via normal household outlets? Perhaps a 2 or 3-in-one deluxe unit or would that be pushing the boundaries or the last two benefits I mentioned?
Thanks in advance! Love your work!
Re: Announcing the FutureBit Apollo BTC - A Full Node/Mining Platform for the Home!
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Curious if anyone has received their units yet and how it’s going. I’m “patiently” waiting for mine. C’mon Santa!