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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 18/07/2011, 18:46:12 UTC
Do you just make up shit to make up shit? I think you do, for one your payment hasn't cleared, second I told you when you would get your refund I believe on page two.
you just contradicted yourself. if you're refunding me, why wait for my dwolla payment to clear? shouldn't it be you giving me back my first payment instead of waiting for my second payment to also be in your hands? now i already sent the money request on dwolla yesterday, all you had to do was press "accept", which you have yet to do. is there a reason why you haven't done it yet? because obviously you have the money available to refund, you just haven't done it yet.
Good god how thick can this guy possibly be? I stated several times i already submitted the money to my bank account, which means i have $0 in my dwolla. Does that make any sense to you?

I'll accept the payment once i have money in my bank to do so. Not everyone has 2k sitting around, plus what if dwolla fails to transfer the money for some reason? Then i have to go through the trouble of trying to cancel a pending withdraw.

Your on my terms now. Im not taking anymore bs or demands from you.
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 18/07/2011, 17:31:43 UTC
well then it's monday, and no tracking number or refund yet on the cleared payment. by the end of the day if me and the other member(s) that already paid for the stuff don't get confirmation like he said he would on monday, then it's pretty much confirmed. now i know his log in online status and posting habits, he was online almost EVERY hour from all of friday up until sunday noon, and it just so happens that after i sent the dwolla refund money request to his dwolla account, he never logged in to this forum again. i think he already fled with my money, but i'll just give him the benefit of the doubt and wait until the end of the day.

Do you just make up shit to make up shit? I think you do, for one your payment hasn't cleared, second I told you when you would get your refund I believe on page two.

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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 22:35:05 UTC
Lol the demands from this guy never end even after agreeing to refund him, I'm not going to call your bank and cancel your pending payment, thats up to you. I don't even think I could stop it even if I wanted to, and I looked for an option on dwolla but I don't see one. If they have that option let me know exactly where to go, otherwise you need to call your bank.

As for the request to receive a refund in dwolla instead of BTC, that is fine by me.

agreeing to refund someone and ACTUALLY refunding them are two completely different things.

in all honesty, if you could have refunded his BitCoins as BitCoins, its so simple to do so and has plenty of community verification via Block Explorer, I don't see why you wouldn't have just for the sake taking the high ground.

Instead it became a public show.  I understand why Leon choose to come public after haploid brought this to the public eye, you didn't want to give any impression that you were scamming him.  Not coming public would have put a more negative light on you.  However, both of your attitudes overall in this whole mess harm BOTH of your reputations in the long wrong.

Before making ignorant posts, please read everything that has been posted. You'll then see how stupid you look.
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 22:20:16 UTC
Lol the demands from this guy never end even after agreeing to refund him, I'm not going to call your bank and cancel your pending payment, thats up to you. I don't even think I could stop it even if I wanted to, and I looked for an option on dwolla but I don't see one. If they have that option let me know exactly where to go, otherwise you need to call your bank.

As for the request to receive a refund in dwolla instead of BTC, that is fine by me.
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 08:57:11 UTC
Well like I said I'm going to bed, but I won't be suprised if I wake up to some more issues this guy has with me.  Roll Eyes
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 08:52:54 UTC
just ship one damn card that he paid for with btc. else you're gonna get marked as a scammer.

I gave him my terms and threats just as he did to me constantly, I'm not going to be pushed around by him any longer and let him damage my rep.

Its already clear he was the one trying to scam me for two cards.
basically your terms are for me to take down this thread i started, otherwise you won't send the cards you never even had? why take it down? so you can scam others that don't know yet? my terms are SIMPLE:

1) just provide proof that you actually have the cards by your newegg invoice, or a picture of the cards with your name on a piece of paper. THAT'S IT. is that so hard just to ask? you haven't been able to provide this simple invoice screenshot, while you were still able to send me screenshots of you withdrawing my BTC. what's up with that?

2) if you can't provide proof, then simply refund me what i paid. THAT'S IT. simple terms, yet you were not able to do in our PMs. i even offered to let you keep $30 of the refund for troubles.

I give up, you'll get your refund. I do what you ask with screen shots and whatever, then you just demand something further. Next time ask for this stuff BEFORE SENDING SOMEONE MONEY. I did all this for you, not me, I didn't have to do any of that and could just fuck you over big time.


As stated and proved, I already converted your BTC to USD to dwolla and submitted the money to my bank. The estimated clear date for that is the 19th, then I have to transsfer it back to DWOLLA back to MTGOX and then back to BTC. Ha and you say any of your requests don't cause me trouble.

I'm taking out $30 fee that you offered for the "troubles".

Thanks for the wasted time, the headacs, lost sales, the never ending demands, the threats, and the hurt reputation.

Good night.

Look from what I see is why does he have to send you an invoice why can't he just send you the card instead of fucking taking pics. Also leon you can't just not ship a card after someone pays for it, over a thread... Its like renting a car form someone and using it for 6 months and not paying them for the time you used it because they didn't follow there agreement just ship him the card and when this is over the thread will be gone don't worry about it ^_^

No he is getting a refund, I'm done with him.

That's fine to so what payments did he send you it looks like he sent 410 and 28 btc? or did he just pay for that 1 card?

He sent me BTC and was short over one BTC and has yet to pay me that. Then he sent me $410 in DWOLLA but it is currently UNCLEARED--yet he wanted me to send both cards.

Now he is just getting a refund with a $30 fee for the trouble and bs he caused me.
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 08:46:09 UTC
just ship one damn card that he paid for with btc. else you're gonna get marked as a scammer.

I gave him my terms and threats just as he did to me constantly, I'm not going to be pushed around by him any longer and let him damage my rep.

Its already clear he was the one trying to scam me for two cards.
basically your terms are for me to take down this thread i started, otherwise you won't send the cards you never even had? why take it down? so you can scam others that don't know yet? my terms are SIMPLE:

1) just provide proof that you actually have the cards by your newegg invoice, or a picture of the cards with your name on a piece of paper. THAT'S IT. is that so hard just to ask? you haven't been able to provide this simple invoice screenshot, while you were still able to send me screenshots of you withdrawing my BTC. what's up with that?

2) if you can't provide proof, then simply refund me what i paid. THAT'S IT. simple terms, yet you were not able to do in our PMs. i even offered to let you keep $30 of the refund for troubles.

I give up, you'll get your refund. I do what you ask with screen shots and whatever, then you just demand something further. Next time ask for this stuff BEFORE SENDING SOMEONE MONEY. I did all this for you, not me, I didn't have to do any of that and could just fuck you over big time.


As stated and proved, I already converted your BTC to USD to dwolla and submitted the money to my bank. The estimated clear date for that is the 19th, then I have to transsfer it back to DWOLLA back to MTGOX and then back to BTC. Ha and you say any of your requests don't cause me trouble.

I'm taking out $30 fee that you offered for the "troubles".

Thanks for the wasted time, the headacs, lost sales, the never ending demands, the threats, and the hurt reputation.

Good night.

Look from what I see is why does he have to send you an invoice why can't he just send you the card instead of fucking taking pics. Also leon you can't just not ship a card after someone pays for it, over a thread... Its like renting a car form someone and using it for 6 months and not paying them for the time you used it because they didn't follow there agreement just ship him the card and when this is over the thread will be gone don't worry about it ^_^

No he is getting a refund, I'm done with him.
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 08:39:22 UTC
just ship one damn card that he paid for with btc. else you're gonna get marked as a scammer.

I gave him my terms and threats just as he did to me constantly, I'm not going to be pushed around by him any longer and let him damage my rep.

Its already clear he was the one trying to scam me for two cards.
basically your terms are for me to take down this thread i started, otherwise you won't send the cards you never even had? why take it down? so you can scam others that don't know yet? my terms are SIMPLE:

1) just provide proof that you actually have the cards by your newegg invoice, or a picture of the cards with your name on a piece of paper. THAT'S IT. is that so hard just to ask? you haven't been able to provide this simple invoice screenshot, while you were still able to send me screenshots of you withdrawing my BTC. what's up with that?

2) if you can't provide proof, then simply refund me what i paid. THAT'S IT. simple terms, yet you were not able to do in our PMs. i even offered to let you keep $30 of the refund for troubles.
Leon is under no obligation to do either of these things, based on the original agreement. I suggest that you make that requirement clear next time that you buy something.

I'm sure glad someone here has a brain, I was starting to feel alone.
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 08:35:56 UTC
just ship one damn card that he paid for with btc. else you're gonna get marked as a scammer.

I gave him my terms and threats just as he did to me constantly, I'm not going to be pushed around by him any longer and let him damage my rep.

Its already clear he was the one trying to scam me for two cards.
basically your terms are for me to take down this thread i started, otherwise you won't send the cards you never even had? why take it down? so you can scam others that don't know yet? my terms are SIMPLE:

1) just provide proof that you actually have the cards by your newegg invoice, or a picture of the cards with your name on a piece of paper. THAT'S IT. is that so hard just to ask? you haven't been able to provide this simple invoice screenshot, while you were still able to send me screenshots of you withdrawing my BTC. what's up with that?

2) if you can't provide proof, then simply refund me what i paid. THAT'S IT. simple terms, yet you were not able to do in our PMs. i even offered to let you keep $30 of the refund for troubles.

I give up, you'll get your refund. I do what you ask with screen shots and whatever, then you just demand something further. Next time ask for this stuff BEFORE SENDING SOMEONE MONEY. I did all this for you, not me, I didn't have to do any of that and could just fuck you over big time.


As stated and proved, I already converted your BTC to USD to dwolla and submitted the money to my bank. The estimated clear date for that is the 19th, then I have to transsfer it back to DWOLLA back to MTGOX and then back to BTC. Ha and you say any of your requests don't cause me trouble.

I'm taking out $30 fee that you offered for the "troubles".

Thanks for the wasted time, the headacs, lost sales, the never ending demands, the threats, and the hurt reputation.

Good night.
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 08:18:53 UTC
.. holy shit i hate retards.


regardless of your terms. you're taking and keeping his money and not giving him the card.


THATS SCAMMING DUMB FUCK.



Holy shit you must hate yourself then.

Before posting this thread--that damages sales and my rep--he was getting his card.

All he has to do is take it down and he gets his card, simple as that. Otherwise hes shit out of luck, like I said I'm not letting him push me around anymore.

You obviously haven't even read half the convo he posted.

So you're saying you are not going to ship the card he paid for?

I was always going to ship the card he paid for, even though the orginal agreement was for both of them to be bought together, which I posted in the thread, and another note is you notice he didn't even fully pay for it yet. Then he goes and posts this that can hurt my rep, so I demand he takes it down otherwise he won't get the card until he does.

With all the crap and headac he gave me I don't see how that is unfair.
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 08:16:17 UTC
just ship one damn card that he paid for with btc. else you're gonna get marked as a scammer.

I gave him my terms and threats just as he did to me constantly, I'm not going to be pushed around by him any longer and let him damage my rep.

Its already clear he was the one trying to scam me for two cards.

IF HE SENT you money already, either REFUND HIM, or send him the damn card.

or else you're TAKING his money and scamming him.

I gave him my terms and threats just as he did to me constantly, I'm not going to be pushed around by him any longer and let him damage my rep.

He put this up when I've yet to "scam" him, so once its taken down he will get his card. Otherwise it will sit and collect dust. Its his problem, not mine.
As much of an obnoxious ass haploid23 has portrayed himself to be so far, you (leon) are seriously not doing yourself any favours in this situation with bullish comments like the above which will only consequently result in haploid23's claim of you being a scammer true.

He can't claim I'm a scammer when I've yet to scam him, its a easy request to make. I have other items to get rid of and hes stalking me giving me a bad rep.

I don't like being callede and scammer getting multiple threats demands and then have this shit posted.
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 08:12:41 UTC
.. holy shit i hate retards.


regardless of your terms. you're taking and keeping his money and not giving him the card.


THATS SCAMMING DUMB FUCK.



Holy shit you must hate yourself then.

Before posting this thread--that damages sales and my rep--he was getting his card.

All he has to do is take it down and he gets his card, simple as that. Otherwise hes shit out of luck, like I said I'm not letting him push me around anymore.

You obviously haven't even read half the convo he posted.
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 08:08:37 UTC
just ship one damn card that he paid for with btc. else you're gonna get marked as a scammer.

I gave him my terms and threats just as he did to me constantly, I'm not going to be pushed around by him any longer and let him damage my rep.

Its already clear he was the one trying to scam me for two cards.

IF HE SENT you money already, either REFUND HIM, or send him the damn card.

or else you're TAKING his money and scamming him.

I gave him my terms and threats just as he did to me constantly, I'm not going to be pushed around by him any longer and let him damage my rep.

He put this up when I've yet to "scam" him, so once its taken down he will get his card. Otherwise it will sit and collect dust. Its his problem, not mine.
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 08:05:53 UTC
just ship one damn card that he paid for with btc. else you're gonna get marked as a scammer.

I gave him my terms and threats just as he did to me constantly, I'm not going to be pushed around by him any longer and let him damage my rep.

Its already clear he was the one trying to scam me for two cards.
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 08:00:09 UTC
Now your really starting to piss me off, you not only lost me potential sales for one of my 6990, but now your going to cause more potential sale loss for me by trying to claim I'm a scammer.

Unless you remove your thread and posts from my thread, you won't be getting your card and I'll be keeping your BTC as a fee for lost sales and damaging my rep WHEN I HAVE YET TO EVEN SCAM YOU.

Its pretty fucking clear that YOU were trying to scam me out of two cards. This in final, I'm blocking you after this, its up to you on what you want to do. You'll get your card under these terms, you'll also get your second card if dwolla transaction happens to clear, but lets face it, we both know it was NEVER going to clear from the very start.

Thanks for being a royal pain in my ass.

Chris


i thought everything was to be public now? if you want me to delete this thread, then ship me the first 6990 i already paid for. how are you going to lose a potential buyer for the second 6990? i already initiated the $410 dwolla transaction for the second 6990. if you were an honest person, then you have nothing to worry about, and you'll get your 5830 sold in no time from your other thread. please keep everything public now, no more PMs

Your obviously stupid, I had turned down SEVERAL buyers after you.
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 07:44:17 UTC
ok you want to work this out publicly? that's even better. no more PM's anything you have to say just do it in the open. i did not leave out anything, but if i did, please fill in the quotes. i did mention that i forgot to save some of the PMs, so instead i wrote in there "something along the lines of". now please reply to my last PM here.

I'm done playing games with you, you know what the hell you left out and I'm done dealing with you period.

Its obvious you tried to scam me out of two cards, then tried to hide that when I said I wanted to wait for your dwolla to clear. Good luck to you.
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Re: Brand New 5830s For Sale
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 07:37:12 UTC
A few days ago I bought 5x 5830s from newegg when I saw they became in stock, but now I won't be needing them for changing plans.

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=28972.0

Bought 5 when I was emailed they were in stock from the website, they shortly became sold out hours later.

You will get these brand new untouched in the orginal box. I will accept BTC, Dwolla, or AlertPay and $10 for 3-day shipping from UPS. Here are the specs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102878

If your interested in any PM me your offer.

Thanks.

DONT BUY YET, this guy might be a SCAMMER, wait until i work things out with him first. reference to the thread:
https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=29636.0


I'm pretty sure this guy was trying to scam me for two cards, who sends two different payments, one with BTC and one with UNCLEARED dwolla then expects me to send them both in before the other clears?

He also leaves out lots of the recent messages that we have gone back and fourth. Frankly this guy is a huge pain in my ass and shouldn't ever be dealt with by anyone.

What kind of person  demands proof and screen shots AFTER sending money, he is an outright mess and has no idea what he is talking about.
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Re: (possible) SCAM ALERT: user Leon
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 07:36:35 UTC
I'm pretty sure this guy was trying to scam me for two cards, who sends two different payments, one with BTC and one with UNCLEARED dwolla then expects me to send them both in before the other clears?

He also leaves out lots of the recent messages that we have gone back and fourth. Frankly this guy is a huge pain in my ass and shouldn't ever be dealt with by anyone.

What kind of person  demands proof and screen shots AFTER sending money, he is an outright mess and has no idea what he is talking about.
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Brand New 5830s For Sale
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 07:24:27 UTC
A few days ago I bought 5x 5830s from newegg when I saw they became in stock, but now I won't be needing them for changing plans.

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=28972.0

Bought 5 when I was emailed they were in stock from the website, they shortly became sold out hours later.

You will get these brand new untouched in the orginal box. I will accept BTC, Dwolla, or AlertPay and $10 for 3-day shipping from UPS. Here are the specs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102878

If your interested in any PM me your offer.

Thanks.
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Re: Mt.Gox scares people
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Leon
on 17/07/2011, 07:13:43 UTC
The way that Mt. Gox is set up makes people buy and sell faster. If you keep a constant eye on it, wanting to see when you should sell or buy, you will.

They have made it so that they get much more traffic than needed. They have digits down to the fifth decimal point. When prices change, it looks like a big change (like 13.52470 to 13.34410). I'm not talking about the big transactions, but most of the ones I see are less than a dozen. And when you are trading a small amount of coins, it's hardly any difference in price. But the numbers look bigger because of so many decimal places and people panic or get really excited and buy or sell right away.

Is this true? I know that's what happens in my mind as I watch Mt.Gox Live

You honestly think this scares people? It isn't even mtgox's fault in the first place that they have 8 decimals, what are they gonna do, cut them out? That is senseless.