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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 18/12/2014, 15:35:17 UTC
WeSellPND.com is Now Live and Operational!



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For more details on the promotional campaign where a pool of 8.2 Million PNDs could be won, visit - http://pandacoinpnd.org/official-partnership-with-wesellpnd-com/


Patch 3.0.1 Patch Released - Mandatory Upgrade from PandaBank v3.0.0 to v3.0.1 Patch Notes

- Fixed an issue for hybrid mode – that was causing invalid stakes for some users. *The nature of this patch is mandatory if you are currently running v3.0.0, to prevent this issue from occurring again*
– Made toolbar menu icons visible on OSX systems.
– Fixed an issue that was leading to small font sizes on some OSX systems.
– Initial translation of UI into zh_CN (Simplified Chinese).
– New command line option -qm that can be used to give an absolute path to a .qm localistation file (generator by qt-linguist) – this is useful for UI translators who want to test their translations.
- Speed improvement for ‘verify’ phase of hybrid syncing.
– Improve some text/messages within UI and ensure text/messages that could not be localist can now be localised, to allow for full localisation by translators.
– Allow translators to select the UI fonts they want used as each language should ideally have its own fonts rather than blindly using the same fonts.
– Fixed a UI issue with transaction grid ‘summary header’ whereby some of the balances would, in some instances, no longer be visible if shrinking a maximized window.
– Replace pandachain.net with pnd.showed.us as blockchain explorer.
– Fixed an issue in ‘transfer pane’ where holding down the mouse over ‘add another button’ would incorrectly perform the action multiple times.
– Fixed some usability issues in transfer pane UI, inform user if trying to make a payment with no from address selected, better error message if balance is short due to staking and other minor changes.

http://pandacoinpnd.org/mandatory-upgrade-from-pandabank-v3-0-0-to-v3-0-1-patch-notes/
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 18/12/2014, 15:06:19 UTC
You're thinking in US terms where $5000 dollars buys you a 2AM AM radio ad on Sunday night from an E-list celebrity from the 1970s. In poorer countries getting the equivalent of Howard Stern to promote your product daily is within reach budgetwise.

Again. I am claiming no affiliations with anyone, just a desire to do the legwork assuming backing from the Panda organization. No funds would touch my hands.


Minairia3:

It sounds like you are trying to scam the Pandacoin community out of money and information.

There is absolutely no proof that you are affiliated with this supposed celebrity, nor is there any proof that you have the ability to accept money on her behalf even if you were.

If you want the Pandacoin community to even begin considering any such "partnerships", there needs to be 100% irrefutable proof that the celebrity in question is actually interested, there has to be a contract drawn up, and agreements made in an official capacity. Even then, we would question the value of such an arrangement.

I suggest you stop pushing this "offer" and go back to making twitter posts and BCT posts on other threads as you have been doing.

In addition to this:

It's good that you're coming up with idea's to promote Pandacoin and that you're thinking outside of the box.
However we can not support such a venture. First of all because of the reasons LMP mentioned + the fact that celeb endorsement really doesn't work as well as you might think. Lets say the deal would be 5000 USD, and 100 people actually start using PND, that's 50 USD per person to acquire. No company would go for that! (unless you're selling something that's worth a few 1000 obviously). We've read studies about it and for us it's a no go.

The community can start their own projects and we encourage that, but we don't encourage people to spend money on things like this or on advertising a nascar car. The cost is a lot higher than the reward. Also: you're giving money (or PND) to someone who you trust will do something good with it... but who you really know nothing about. Cryptoworld is the wild west, do your research and even then you have to be careful not to get scammed.

Somehow, I don't believe you. Like I said, if your business proposition was legitimate, you would have contacted the developers directly, not applied scare tactics to the community to encourage us to engage in business with you.
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 18/12/2014, 14:59:06 UTC
That would work after a huge promotion or if the celeb was paid to make big deal of the tip. Most would have no idea what the tip, no idea how to deal with it and no interest in a few extra dollars.


why not simply tip celebrities on twitter with the pandacoin tipbot? cheaper and their fans would see it aswell. Shocked

Nice idea Smiley

Minairia3, you forget that celebrities are people too.

And you can drop the business proposition.

If you were truly providing a legitimate business proposition, you would have contacted the developers directly instead of attempting to pressure the community with your poor scare tactics.
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 18/12/2014, 14:54:18 UTC
why not simply tip celebrities on twitter with the pandacoin tipbot? cheaper and their fans would see it aswell. Shocked

Nice idea Smiley
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 18/12/2014, 14:53:58 UTC
Nice article but lost in the mass of media, promotion has to be a constant buzz. IE knows this but doesn't have the budget/ability to pull it off.


Well, we've been hearing about these always in the future promotional plans and the 100000 retailors for a while and at the same time the price is tumbling.  From a business perspective I'm uncertain how fhey plan to accomplish these goals on a limited budget. It would take a massive bomb of tech and promotion to get my corner dry cleaner's to use Panda for example.  The devs have delivered smooth elegant tech but on the business/promotional side they've so far failed.  Articles in the cryptopress don't count and those silly paid Yahoo press releases do nothing. This @manelecrypto has apparently done 1000 times more towards getting real people to use Panda. IconicExpert's semi-scam dying Bytecent coin has a strong promotional program. Pure scam but always rising Bitswift sends people to conferences, etc to spread their word. Just having cool tech and waiting for the masses to show-up will not work.

enlighten me: what kind of strong promotional program? his paid press release? his claim to be the first crypto on downloadsites? http://download.cnet.com/PandaBank/3000-2057_4-76174397.html (check date)
or his constant tweets pushing people to buy his coin and saying that it's urgent to buy because they are missing out (typical signs of a scammer)

He's also a scammer. And it sounds like you're doing exactly what he does to try to take advantage of the less aware individuals in crypto-community.
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 18/12/2014, 14:50:04 UTC
Put it this way minairia3, if you want to support us, support us. If you or your "client" wants to make money off of Pandacoin, then you can invest, and then endorse us, and make money purely off of the success of your endorsement.

If that doesn't sound like a good plan to you, then you either don't have any confidence in the influence of said "endorsement", or you're merely posturing.

Support us as you wish, but such a business engagement has far less utility than the average individual might expect or claim.
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 18/12/2014, 14:29:04 UTC
Minairia3:

It sounds like you are trying to scam the Pandacoin community out of money and information.

There is absolutely no proof that you are affiliated with this supposed celebrity, nor is there any proof that you have the ability to accept money on her behalf even if you were.

If you want the Pandacoin community to even begin considering any such "partnerships", there needs to be 100% irrefutable proof that the celebrity in question is actually interested, there has to be a contract drawn up, and agreements made in an official capacity. Even then, we would question the value of such an arrangement.

I suggest you stop pushing this "offer" and go back to making twitter posts and BCT posts on other threads as you have been doing.
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 15/12/2014, 04:08:53 UTC
can't wait for WeSellPND to get ready!

http://wesellpnd.com/

The suspense!  Cheesy
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 06/12/2014, 07:06:00 UTC
We try Smiley

Thanks for the compliments Smiley
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instan
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 06/12/2014, 00:15:10 UTC
The Weekly Panda


Front Page

Major PandaBank Upgrade (v3.0.0) Released - World’s First Hybrid Cryptocurrency Wallet - Inbuilt Lightweight Mode, Instant Sync Technology & Rapid Blockchain Download


Inbuilt PandaBank ‘Lite’ and ‘Hybrid’ modes. Instantly sync with blockchain and use your Pandacoins right after installation. Download entire blockchain in 5-15 minutes. A superior user experience. Upgrade your PandaBank today!

Official announcement from The Pandacoin Development Team - http://pandacoinpnd.org/pandacoin-pnd-develops-worlds-first-hybrid-cryptocurrency-wallet-inbuilt-lightweight-mode-instant-sync-technology-rapid-blockchain-download/

Sneak Preview For the Next Major Release


We are recruiting 2 Community Managers

The Pandacoin Development Team is looking to recruit 2 community managers to join our team, help welcome newcomers across our social channels (Bitcointalk, IRC, Reddit & Facebook), and moderate the content of the chat among community members.

What we are looking for:
-Active in bitcointalk forums, our main IRC channel, Reddit and Facebook page.
-Have a moderate understanding of the PandaBank installation process and knowledge of existing Pandacoin infrastructure and layout of our homepage.
-Has a friendly disposition and likes helping others.

What we can offer:
-A monthly Pandacoin bounty paid out of the Community Chest to remunerate you for your time.

If you are interested, email bdanyo@pandacoinpnd.org with the following information and we will contact select candidates for an interview!
-Bitcointalk/IRC/Reddit/Facebook aliases
-Location
-Average time spent daily on Pandacoin community channels
-Why you are interested in joining our team and why you believe you are suitable for this position!

New PND Snake beta update released by Rghmodz! Download here http://pndgames.net/


Changes:
Made main menu nicer.
Added option menu where you can change controls.
Removed game resolution dialog on start up.
Changed fonts to a pixelated font for a more retro feel.
Changing controls to arrow keys works.
Changing controls to numpad keys works.

Download here http://pndgames.net/

Congratulations to user 'Tomski007' for being the 4th 1 million $PND winner on our IRC Pandacoin Lotto Faucet!!!

Join us on #PandacoinPND at freenode.net to try out the Lotto-Faucet commands !lotto !panda or !gimme, have a chance of winning up to 10 million Pandacoins (PND) and chat with the other Pandas from this awesome community!

http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=panda.&channels=%23PandacoinPND&uio=Mj10cnVlJjQ9dHJ1ZSY5PXRydWUmMTE9MTg1JjEyPXRydWU60

A big thank you to community member 'Mynamehere' for donating another 1 million Pandacoins to the Community Chest

We have received now a total of 5 million Pandacoins to the Community Chest from 'Mynamehere'! The Pandacoin Community Chest now stands at an impressive - 188 million Pandacoins! http://pandacoinpnd.org/community/community-chest/

Pandacoin In The Media


CryptoCoinNews.com Article - "Pandacoin Develops World’s First Hybrid Cryptocurrency Wallet"

"Pandacoin, a cryptocurrency designed specifically for mass market adoption, has released a major update for their Crypto-Banking wallet. Users of Pandabank will be able to switch the main client to a lightweight version called Pandabank Lite. The main wallet will now be called Pandabank Hybrid and now has Instant Sync Technology (IST) and Rapid Blockchain Download (RBD). IST and RBD will allow new users the ability to rapidly synchronize with the blockchain and access their Pandacoins right after client download. With the new technology, users will be able to sync with the blockchain in 5 to 15 minutes, a significant improvement over the 4 to 24 hours the old client took.…"

View the rest of the article here - https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/pandacoin-develops-worlds-first-hybrid-wallet/

"Pandacoin Breaks New Ground" - Cryptolix News Article Coverage on the Major Innovative PandaBank Upgrades

"Here at Cryptolix.com we’ve been following Pandacoin closely. They have released some major news today (November 18, 2014) with some new and exciting stuff.  See below…"

View the rest of the article here - http://cryptolix.com/pandacoin-news-and-updates/

ForexMinute.com - Pandacoin Launches World’s First Hybrid Cryptocurrency Wallet News Article Coverage

"ForexMinute.com – Known for its no-nonsense distribution mechanism, Pandacoin is gradually making its presence felt among other leading digital currencies. This time, the Proof-of-Stake coin has added further stars to its merit by launching the world’s very first hybrid cryptocurrency wallet.

With the term ‘hybrid’, Pandacoin means to deliver a coin storage client that could easily switch to its lightweight version ‘Pandacoin Lite’. Its developing team has thus came up with ‘PandaBank Hybrid’, a storage client that could easily perform the aforementioned task, enabling users with limited bandwidth and storage restrictions to have a hassle-free experience..."


View the rest of the article here - http://www.forexminute.com/cryptocurrency-news/pandacoin-launches-worlds-first-hybrid-cryptocurrency-wallet-50037

CryptoArticles.com - NEW PANDACOIN UPDATE REDUCES BLOCKCHAIN DOWNLOAD TIMES BY 5000%. DUAL MODE WALLET WITH INBUILT LIGHTWALLET

"November 17th, 2014: Pandacoin (PND) released a major update today to their ‘Crypto-Banking’ wallet – PandaBank, making it the  cryptocurrency main storage client with the ability to switch to a lightweight version of the client, ‘PandaBank Lite’. Pandacoin’s main wallet mode is now called ‘PandaBank Hybrid’, integrated with ‘Instant Sync Technology’ (IST) and ‘Rapid Blockchain Download’ (RBD); allowing their new users to immediately synchronize with the blockchain and utilize their Pandacoins right after installation of the client, and reducing the time to download the entire blockchain from 4 to 24 hours, down to 5 to 15 minutes..."

View the rest of the article here - http://www.cryptoarticles.com/press-releases/new-pandacoin-update-reduces-blockchain-download-times-by-5000

CoinSource.com - PandaCoin’s v3.0 Introduces Revolutionary New Blockchain Features

"With its most recent v3.0.0 update, Pandacoin revealed that every PandaBank wallet will have a built-in “Lite” and “Hybrid” mode. The Lite mode requires no downloading of the blockchain, so your coins show up instantly and transactions can be made.

The Hybrid mode allows for the blockchain to download in under half an hour, as compared to days with other cryptos.

The total time of downloading the blockchain has dropped 5000% from previous versions, dropping it from 4 to 24 hours down to 5 to 15 minutes on average. The new update also features Instant Sync Technology, which allows users to see transactions and use their coins immediately. However, do note that when the wallet is in Lite mode, you cannot earn interest on your coins and are not helping secure the network...."


View the rest of the article here - http://www.coinssource.com/pandacoin-hits-v3-0-with-revolutionary-new-blockchain-features/

All Alt News - PandaCoin: Develops World’s First Hybrid Cryptocurrency Wallet - Inbuilt Lightweight Mode, Instant Sync Technology & Rapid Blockchain Download

"A spokesperson for Pandacoin explained, “We as a team had identified several user experience problems with the typical main storage of cryptocurrency clients that have yet to be addressed adequately. New users to any cryptocurrency should not need to wait for many hours and in Bitcoin’s case, sometimes even a week, for their wallet to download and synchronize with the blockchain, before being able to see and utilize their cryptocurrencies. Using lightweight clients is a possible solution to this problem, but not ideal for any Proof of Stake based cryptocurrencies, as users are then not participating in interest staking or helping to secure the network to prevent 51% attacks. However, we understand that some of our current and future users will have bandwidth and hard drive storage restrictions, so we are giving them the option to easily switch to ‘PandaBank Lite’ within the same client...”

View the rest of the article HERE - http://allaltnews.blogspot.com.au/2014/11/pandacoin-develops-worlds-first-hybrid.html

The Paypers - Pandacoin Releases New Hybrid Digital Wallet

"Pandacoin, a cryptocurrency payments processor, has released a new version of the hybrid cryptocurrency wallet, forexminute.com reports.

The word ‘hybrid’ means, in the context, delivering a coin storage client that could switch to its lightweight version ‘Pandacoin Lite’. Its developing team has thus come up with ‘PandaBank Hybrid’, a storage client that could perform the switching...."


View the rest of the article here - http://www.thepaypers.com//cryptocurrencies-bitcoin-virtual-currencies/pandacoin-releases-new-hybrid-digital-wallet/757430-39
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
by
Linux_Mint_Pal
on 05/12/2014, 00:33:45 UTC
Pandacoin's Panda Bank:

Classic Mode: Downloads the entire blockchain using an old, inefficient system. This takes upwards of days. Stakes.

Hybrid Mode: Downloads the entire blockchain using a new, super-efficient system. This takes as little as 4 minutes. Stakes.

Lite Mode: Downloads the headers using the new suoer-efficient system. This takes as little as 10 seconds. Does not stake.



If you want more details, please feel free to ask Smiley

Can my mobile phone PND wallet stake?

No it cannot. Your mobile wallet is a Lite wallet.

Further, the reason why we have not yet and do not plan to develop a mobile wallet that stakes is that it requires constant internet connection and CPU usage. It would probably kill your phone's battery in about 20 minutes, and is therefore not particularly useful!
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 05/12/2014, 00:08:25 UTC
Pandacoin's Panda Bank:

Classic Mode: Downloads the entire blockchain using an old, inefficient system. This takes upwards of days. Stakes.

Hybrid Mode: Downloads the entire blockchain using a new, super-efficient system. This takes as little as 4 minutes. Stakes.

Lite Mode: Downloads the headers using the new suoer-efficient system. This takes as little as 10 seconds. Does not stake.



If you want more details, please feel free to ask Smiley
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 04/12/2014, 01:32:08 UTC
Of course it is Smiley

Faster speed, better technology, higher quality.

Only the best.
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 30/11/2014, 02:30:22 UTC
Hey mtrycz

I need to chat with you!
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 28/11/2014, 14:52:28 UTC
Hey mtrycz!

I sent you a PM! I have a few questions for ya. If you could hop on the IRC or just chat through PMs here that'd be cool :p
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
by
Linux_Mint_Pal
on 26/11/2014, 17:25:17 UTC
Good luck to all the applicants!

Are you picking by a lottery?

No. Interview process Smiley
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instan
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 26/11/2014, 15:39:35 UTC
We are recruiting 2 Community Managers

The Pandacoin Development Team is looking to recruit 2 community managers to join our team, help welcome newcomers across our social channels (Bitcointalk, IRC, Reddit & Facebook), and moderate the content of the chat among community members.

What we are looking for:
-Active in bitcointalk forums, our main IRC channel, Reddit and Facebook page.
-Have a moderate understanding of the PandaBank installation process and knowledge of existing Pandacoin infrastructure and layout of our homepage.
-Has a friendly disposition and likes helping others.

What we can offer:
-A monthly Pandacoin bounty paid out of the Community Chest to remunerate you for your time.

If you are interested -email bdanyo@pandacoinpnd.org with the following information and we will contact select candidates for an interview!

-Bitcointalk/IRC/Reddit/Facebook aliases
-Location
-Average time spent daily on Pandacoin community channels
-Why you are interested in joining our team and why you believe you are suitable for this position!


Daily reminder

when is the deadline for sending the apply?

Basically the deadline is flexible. When we get 2 community managers we like, we won't need to hire more. That's the deadline Wink
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instan
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Linux_Mint_Pal
on 24/11/2014, 15:16:12 UTC
We are recruiting 2 Community Managers

The Pandacoin Development Team is looking to recruit 2 community managers to join our team, help welcome newcomers across our social channels (Bitcointalk, IRC, Reddit & Facebook), and moderate the content of the chat among community members.

What we are looking for:
-Active in bitcointalk forums, our main IRC channel, Reddit and Facebook page.
-Have a moderate understanding of the PandaBank installation process and knowledge of existing Pandacoin infrastructure and layout of our homepage.
-Has a friendly disposition and likes helping others.

What we can offer:
-A monthly Pandacoin bounty paid out of the Community Chest to remunerate you for your time.

If you are interested -email bdanyo@pandacoinpnd.org with the following information and we will contact select candidates for an interview!

-Bitcointalk/IRC/Reddit/Facebook aliases
-Location
-Average time spent daily on Pandacoin community channels
-Why you are interested in joining our team and why you believe you are suitable for this position!
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | Cryptocurrency for the masses | Easy to use, buy, mine and understand |
by
Linux_Mint_Pal
on 20/11/2014, 15:53:01 UTC
Bounty/Giveaway

We're going to do a little competition here. Who can do the fastest full sync?

I want you to make a video of a full sync, upload it on Mega (or something similar) and put the link here on bitcointalk, or poke me on twitter (@OzzkePND) or post it on Reddit.

This competition will run until Friday (21st) 11 AM GMT. The winner will get 500,000 PND. By sending me the link you also forfeit your rights and allow us to upload it on youtube and you will be an example for all! Wink

Requirements:

  • Video should end when Verifying starts
  • Video should be uploaded on Mega (or similar)
  • Video should have some upbeat electronic music (no vocals)
  • Video should start when you launch your PandaBank with no wallet.dat
  • Has to be windows build! (sorry but Linux is cheating because it's even faster but almost noone uses it)
  • If you try to cheat you will of course forfait the competition.

Current leader in the competition is 3 mins 58 seconds.

so not many people are interested in the 500k PND reward? Tongue
*cough* 750k
your 500 plus my 250. I still think we should create a pool. But really this would have been a good viral pr push when it was launched the other day. Still works.

I would love to participate but I feel like that would be unfair xD Come to think of it, Ozzke would probably beat me.
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Re: [PND]Pandacoin | First Hybrid Wallet | 5000% Faster Blockchain Download | Instant Sync
by
Linux_Mint_Pal
on 20/11/2014, 15:22:42 UTC
Oh, I've read it 7 times and kinda get it now. It read it like it's the IST that enables you to stake with a lite wallet.


It doesn't.

It just instant-syncs the FULL wallet just enough so that you can see your balance and use the wallet, and THEN it syncs with the rest of the blockchain so you can stake. So it is still the full, core wallet, but it syncs faster than any Lite wallet I've ever seen, used, or heard of Smiley