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Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
This dude was a big believer in Neucoin and that is the point.
He invested 40 BTC during presale and was very supportive in the beginning. He followed closely everything that was happening and concluded that he has been "ripped off". You can read his post history on their forum to see why there was such a drastic change in opinion. Maybe you will agree with his points, maybe you won't. At least you'll know the rationale behind someone who has been on both sides of the fence.
I believe he created this email so that other disillusioned investors could contact him and discuss how to proceed next. I don't see any trolling or wackiness from his part, but rather a genuine concern for his hard earned money.
I don't think any of us is implying this is a simple scam, there are however serious red flags that any potential investor should seriously look into. On a micro level, it is someone's money that is at stake. At a micro level, it is another possible blemish for the cryptocurrency ecosystem
Once again, think about what people are saying and decide for yourself if it makes sense or not.
He invested 40 BTC during presale and was very supportive in the beginning. He followed closely everything that was happening and concluded that he has been "ripped off". You can read his post history on their forum to see why there was such a drastic change in opinion. Maybe you will agree with his points, maybe you won't. At least you'll know the rationale behind someone who has been on both sides of the fence.
I believe he created this email so that other disillusioned investors could contact him and discuss how to proceed next. I don't see any trolling or wackiness from his part, but rather a genuine concern for his hard earned money.
I don't think any of us is implying this is a simple scam, there are however serious red flags that any potential investor should seriously look into. On a micro level, it is someone's money that is at stake. At a micro level, it is another possible blemish for the cryptocurrency ecosystem
Once again, think about what people are saying and decide for yourself if it makes sense or not.
ok, didn't mean to disrespect! (just was kind of shocked when i clicked on that link after your earlier balanced tone).
i myself don't see red flags. (i see spyware pig as more of an asset than liability)
i see an interesting crypto plan with an interesting team with interesting investors.
i see weirdly passionate and obsessed trolls. maybe this is a contrarian buy signal, not sure.
i still think neucoin has a good idea with a micropayment angle and free distribution (different from any other alt), but i don't have motivation or energy to put it into words right now.
hasta la vista
Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
This forum is insane. 
Welcome Long Neucoin
Rather than focusing on the motives behind each person [regardless of pro or con], you'd benefit more focusing on the points that each one has made
Read both sides of the argument with an open mind. See who is presenting facts and who is just running their mouths, google around and read the publicly available information. Think which points are more sensible.
Things are messy now with all the newly created spam accounts, it is quite clear from which side
The actual details of the project have been discussed here, just buried here and there within these 56 pages. Concerns of coins being centralized on the hands of a few investors and team are under discussion as of now. We will only really know if distribution will be wide and fair after launch.
as for micropayments, all cryptocurrencies can handle micropayments well. It is like saying that a boat can float. I don't see the advantage here? Claims of certain 'innovations' have also been discussed and debunked here
no one knows if it will sink or swim but you can keep an eye out for a few indicators:
-What has been the general reception of the crypto community? Not just the Bitcoin one, but also of other major coins such as Doge, Peercoin, Dash and so on.
-Have the set targets been met so far??
-Has the coin secured any significant partnerships?
-Over a year in development and 25 days left to launch, what has been the achievements so far?
-Has the team been transparent and open to criticism in their forum? Or was there censorship?
-Beta is open. Has any impartial tester expressed awe or found any true innovations?
-Does the coin exhibit typical signs of a Pump n Dump??
TIP: you can find all answers in this thread, just be prepared to read
As a final thought, here is what one of the biggest investors said a few days ago
http://postimg.org/image/7bi07xijx/18
FYI it has been deleted from the nokoin forum and he has been banned
Kimberly,
Thank you for the orientation!
Your post was refreshingly organized and rational and thus comforting in all this chaos. I was feeling good...
But then your link at the bottom, pointing to some dude with the email address "neucoinisascam@gmail.com", was as wacko as any pumper or troll in here.
I think it would be awesome if people here could get past the "it's a SCAM!" and "it's the greatest!" shouting. it so obviously isn't either one.
Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
Is it just fun to bash a rich spyware guy and hope all the fancy angels lose their money?
I'll be honest. It is fun.
Although I am not hoping anyone loses money.
...I'm just expecting it.
Haha, thanks. Makes perfect sense.
I'm torn. On one hand, I want to bash the spyware pig too!
But on the other, I believe he is going to make the longs (me) money.
I have a pretty short horizon, so honestly, I'm more confident of making some $$ here than anywhere else.
I would sell everything after first pump, but I'm just planning to get my capital back. I will let the rest ride on the off chance that this is a big one.
Re: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official
This forum is insane.
Reading the posts, I assume people who are pro neucoin are either part of the team, bought in the presale or got free coins from surveys. (I'm #2 and #3).
But there seem to be even more people who are against neucoin.
I admit I don't know who's right. I don't buy the "scam" thing at all, but FOR SURE neucoin could flop and go to zero like most altcoins. This has to be the highest chance. But I'm a gambler and I like the risk/return. I think it has a decent chance of being more like stellar, ripple or ethereum, not because neucoin has any tech, but at least it has a team and plan and funding, which very few alts have.
Anyway, I'm not here to fight, but I have to say it's pretty weird how passionate the "trolls" are (sorry, don't mean to insult, but what else do you call somebody who makes endless negative posts).
Am I missing something obvious? What's IN IT for the trolls? Why bother? Is it just fun to bash a rich spyware guy and hope all the fancy angels lose their money?
Also, it's kind of strange how the trolls pretty much NEVER talk about the actual project... micropayments, giving coins to consumers to get wide distribution, etc. To be fair, the neucoin supporters don't talk about this much either. Isn't this really the most important factor for whether neucoin sinks or swims?
Reading the posts, I assume people who are pro neucoin are either part of the team, bought in the presale or got free coins from surveys. (I'm #2 and #3).
But there seem to be even more people who are against neucoin.
I admit I don't know who's right. I don't buy the "scam" thing at all, but FOR SURE neucoin could flop and go to zero like most altcoins. This has to be the highest chance. But I'm a gambler and I like the risk/return. I think it has a decent chance of being more like stellar, ripple or ethereum, not because neucoin has any tech, but at least it has a team and plan and funding, which very few alts have.
Anyway, I'm not here to fight, but I have to say it's pretty weird how passionate the "trolls" are (sorry, don't mean to insult, but what else do you call somebody who makes endless negative posts).
Am I missing something obvious? What's IN IT for the trolls? Why bother? Is it just fun to bash a rich spyware guy and hope all the fancy angels lose their money?
Also, it's kind of strange how the trolls pretty much NEVER talk about the actual project... micropayments, giving coins to consumers to get wide distribution, etc. To be fair, the neucoin supporters don't talk about this much either. Isn't this really the most important factor for whether neucoin sinks or swims?