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so now that the discussion on leaving bittrex is closed and settled, who can we blame for the price that keeps dropping?
You will have to wait until biomike is done selling.
I don't blame him but the court case against him must be "fake" as it was claimed to be coming from a community member.@Biomike can you clarify if this was a "fake news" threat?
I saw your post in the Gulden ANN, witnessing is a brilliant concept developed by the Gulden developers. For those that don't know about witnessing here is the whitepaper from the Gulden developers which they released last year and witnessing itself was released end of last month.
https://gulden.com/pow2
I am willing to invest in this coin on two conditions.
1. Do you have capable developers that can fork Gulden correctly? Apparently there was over 40 000 lines of code that went into the PoW2 update.
2. The most important one is marketing. The reason Gulden isn't a success is because the founder doesn't do marketing and I know if a group had to market PoW2 - Witnessing correctly it would have a massive impact on the global crypto market.
What exchanges will this coin be enlisted on?
https://gulden.com/pow2
I am willing to invest in this coin on two conditions.
1. Do you have capable developers that can fork Gulden correctly? Apparently there was over 40 000 lines of code that went into the PoW2 update.
2. The most important one is marketing. The reason Gulden isn't a success is because the founder doesn't do marketing and I know if a group had to market PoW2 - Witnessing correctly it would have a massive impact on the global crypto market.
What exchanges will this coin be enlisted on?
Thanks to BioMike for opening the new thread.
An openly accessible platform is essential for discussing both positive and negative news.
An approach such as slack, which is more reminiscent of 1984, does not necessarily promote confidence in the product. This is why I definitely prefer this platform here.
An openly accessible platform is essential for discussing both positive and negative news.
An approach such as slack, which is more reminiscent of 1984, does not necessarily promote confidence in the product. This is why I definitely prefer this platform here.
I don't know Rijk as a person but is he more extreme left or extreme right when it comes to censorship and his viewpoints?
Looking foreward to the Sneak Peaks of the new wallets. Hopefully we will see some next week! 🎉🚀
Are the "Sneak Peaks" coming end of March, with written update end of April, more sneak peaks end of May, another written update end of June?
You can stop second guessing. Let the Dutch handle this. Pow2 and Segsig are real!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfa8fC93Pds
Ah, I see you found a glassbulb somewhere.
Well I disagree with you. I think Gulden has a great future ahead of itself. Only question is: will you be part of it? I am following the Warren Buffet stategy. Invest in stuff you believe in. Not just on price. That will get you fooled to easily. But on product. And the promise it beholds. Gulden is on the brink of writing history. Not just for your wallets. But for crypto as an industry. What the Gulden development team is trying to pull off is a giant leap foreward for the sector. It will change how financials works, how banks work and how governments work. Just give them some slack, to do it right.
Sneak peak is another delay tactic. Wait a month for a sneak peak will only signal another 6 months to develop.
I wouldn't panic yet, I expect the sneak peak to be out this week.
Why does it take this long to post a "sneak peak" when the release is almost done? They posted the update on Friday, it's already Tuesday and nothing!?!?!
Not that anyone gives a shit but I will be selling my stock if the sneak peak isn't revealed by Friday as I am sure we are being played or the development team is hiding something that has gone wrong with the PoW2 and SegSig update. I could be wrong but Friday is a personal deadline and will be investing further in other projects.
The sneak peak is going to be a video of the new wallet, it's the only explanation I can think of that it's taken a week with nothing to show. A visual of the new wallet would take 1 second to print screen and another 1 second to paste and less then a minute to add the image to all the social media outlets they have.
I have some Gulden in my wallet altough I sold a lot during the first pump. I made fantastic profits, so I cannot blame anyone as this coin was very profitable to me. I think that it has potential to repeat a huge pump, especially, if we take into account the climate of the upcoming elections in Holland. Remember, for example, Aurora coin and elections in Iceland.
This Prime development will cause some interest but don't expect it out in March like the roadmap says. The devs are always late on projects , not only Gulden devs but all devs. Prime will be out in May.
Team was only 2 weeks behind on the massive 1.6.0 release, I don't see them being 2 months behind schedule on Prime.
People have been waiting over 1 year for PoW2. All 3 of these posters have quit gulden.
I recently broke up with my gf over the price of Gulden. I convinced her to spend our holiday money when the price was over 0.31 on Nocks after a work friend told me about Gulden.
First few days it went well because the price went to 0.39 but after it got to this price it started coming down fast. When the price went below 0.25 she grew distant mentally and two days ago we had a huge fight over this and we ended the relationship. I also took money out of my savings to buy her portion of the gulden at 0.31 rate to try keep the peace but obviously this meant we couldn't go on vocation.
I knew the risks when buying but didn't explain the risks to my gf but on the bright side I got to see her true nature and I am happy we have ended it.
I started buying again to try lower my average because I think this coin does have potential and maybe if she contacts me in two years I will reply with this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIy3n2b7V9k
First few days it went well because the price went to 0.39 but after it got to this price it started coming down fast. When the price went below 0.25 she grew distant mentally and two days ago we had a huge fight over this and we ended the relationship. I also took money out of my savings to buy her portion of the gulden at 0.31 rate to try keep the peace but obviously this meant we couldn't go on vocation.
I knew the risks when buying but didn't explain the risks to my gf but on the bright side I got to see her true nature and I am happy we have ended it.
I started buying again to try lower my average because I think this coin does have potential and maybe if she contacts me in two years I will reply with this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIy3n2b7V9k
You failed investing 101. NEVER spend money you need. But, now you learned the hard way.
People have also committed suicide with these kinds of losses, almost 80% from the peak. Whoever reading this suicide is not the answer if you thinking about it, this coin has had many peaks in the past and in the future has always passed those peaks. It might take another year or two to break 0.4 but it will happen.
I recently broke up with my gf over the price of Gulden. I convinced her to spend our holiday money when the price was over 0.31 on Nocks after a work friend told me about Gulden.
First few days it went well because the price went to 0.39 but after it got to this price it started coming down fast. When the price went below 0.25 she grew distant mentally and two days ago we had a huge fight over this and we ended the relationship. I also took money out of my savings to buy her portion of the gulden at 0.31 rate to try keep the peace but obviously this meant we couldn't go on vocation.
I knew the risks when buying but didn't explain the risks to my gf but on the bright side I got to see her true nature and I am happy we have ended it.
I started buying again to try lower my average because I think this coin does have potential and maybe if she contacts me in two years I will reply with this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIy3n2b7V9k
First few days it went well because the price went to 0.39 but after it got to this price it started coming down fast. When the price went below 0.25 she grew distant mentally and two days ago we had a huge fight over this and we ended the relationship. I also took money out of my savings to buy her portion of the gulden at 0.31 rate to try keep the peace but obviously this meant we couldn't go on vocation.
I knew the risks when buying but didn't explain the risks to my gf but on the bright side I got to see her true nature and I am happy we have ended it.
I started buying again to try lower my average because I think this coin does have potential and maybe if she contacts me in two years I will reply with this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIy3n2b7V9k
What a story
But a win/win/win situation
1) You saw your GFs true nature and she will not cost you any more money and that money you can invest in Gulden (win)
2) You do not go on Holiday and you can invest that money in Gulden (=win)
3) Gulden will come up again so if you buy now you lower the average buying price and make a profit earlier (=win)
Good luck m8
Not interested in a relationship because money looks to be God for woman. No wonder people my age not getting married much.
She dumped you for a guy who invested in Ethereum.
I was banned from slack for having an opinion, I plan to dump when I can get out with a profit.
Same here, got banned last night, I merely stated that gulden was at rank 204 in the "traders" part of the forum, appearantly this was a reason for being banned from slack, a little harsh is my opinion... So much for the gulden coin being owned by the Gulden community...
Don't mention other crypto related sites in the gulden slack as you can expose users to numerous scams like bitconnect.
If they want to be exposed to scams they will be scammed and Rijk does not have to be the father who protects them. It is stupid to think that if you talk about coinmarketcap on the Gulden slack people will be scammed right away.
I was banned a long time ago for talking to other ppl to make a buying wall to make ppl / investors confident about the coin. I also talked about coinmarketcap. But i rather have that Rijk is helping the developers instead of arguing with ppl who only wants the best for Gulden. After i was banned i also sold a lot of Gulden because he made me very mad with his dictator style of moderating Slack. Now i bought them back and also more from them but i still do not like his style and it makes me mad.
What good is it for a coin that you cannot talk about it, ask normal questions, argue a bit over the future. Like BannedFromSlack says this coin is owned by the Gulden Community so why does Rijk act this way? There are more then enough coins who want you to invest in them but Rijk is trying to piss off as much ppl as possible and scare them away. Is there no one in his friend or family inner circle who can talk some sense into this guy? His father, his brother, friends? He is destroying the coin acting this was and otherwise it would be much higher i think.
I do not sell my coins (100.000+) but i would like to see a chance in communication the future and i hate al this banning on slack because i also think it is very childish when ppl cannot speak freely.
gulden is a closed society , it's run more like a cult, has been this way for a long time.
I decided to sell in December based on the posts I had with investerdeer who has been correct about the gulden development all along. I made a decent profit in Euros but nothing compared to some of my friends who invested in Stratis , Neo and Lisk. Investeerder said in August that this update would not be completed until March. I made the right decision to sell during the last pump.
Let him go if he wants. There is actually not much logic to his move. Still good luck to you!
This is just 1.6BTC @1100 150K Gulden, what is the drama all about.
This is just 1.6BTC @1100 150K Gulden, what is the drama all about.
Sounds like total desperation and despair from his part, given up.
It's 3btc worth being sold at 1100 and with btc at +$10000, that is a lot of money for the Gulden community. Lets hope the btc price plummets and that sell order can be taken out.
PoW2 selected user testing has started. Including: Secure 1-conf transactions, witnessing, segsig. #blockchain $nlg
https://twitter.com/Gulden/status/935825115308281857
https://twitter.com/Gulden/status/935825115308281857
I am going to sell my Gulden at 1100 sat on bittrex later today if anyone wants to buy it up. After messaging a few people who used to be on the Gulden slack I am starting to believe that Gulden is nothing more then a prototype testing machine for bitcoin and litecoin.
It explains a lot.
1. No advertising.
2. The founder doesn't care about price.
3. Bitcoin cancelled their Segwitx2 fork, they will use the SegSig code.
4. Had SegSig and PoW2 been developed by any other coin this would be all over the crypto sites like cointelegraph, coinbase etc
5. Founder refuses to market Gulden because he has enough money and probably compromised by bitcoin/litecoin investors. Make a deal not to market Gulden and they buy up the majority of the Gulden shares so MaNI as his team becomes a unofficial dev house for bitcoin.
6. Everyone wins except for the Gulden community because as mentioned above the founder Rijk doesn't care if the price goes to 1 sat.
7. On the shares site they have removed the largest contributors and how much shares have been sold.
I wouldn't care if the coin went to 1 sat, I would still hold if they made the damn effort to advertise the work they doing. Clearly there is some hidden agenda at play.
I think this is a little far fetched...
Gulden PoW2 can not market itself before the release. Now public testing has started.
Just wait for public release and the product will start marketing itself.
I really do not think that Gulden is working for Litecoin or Bitcoin
How long would it take for Litecoin or Bitcoin to implement Segsig?
This would be a huge update and would take time. And, then that would create huge advertising for Gulden where Segsig would be running already!
I think a lot of FUD is being created from people who are scared for their investement and people who want cheap Guldens!
I have been a sucker for coins with good development instead of looking at the overall package. Crypto in 2012 - 2014 was all about innovation but it has changed to the coin with the best marketing. I like truth and most of these other projects are all about marketing and marketing is beating out coins with good development. I won't be investing in these other marketing scams once I sell my Gulden, I will only stay in bitcoin and forget about alts altogether.
I have emptied my Gulden wallet (YES I DIDN'T HAVE MY COINS ON A EXCHANGE TO TRADE) so please don't think I am being a troll, maybe my selling will force the founder to do something about marketing this coin better for the rest of you. Good luck for the future!
Sorry to see a true fan of Gulden leaving us, is that your sell order at 1100?
That's a lot of coins you selling myraidcoins, why not wait for witnessing and use all those coins to earn more Gulden. You are hurting the community by selling this amount and you know this community hasn't the money to buy up these coins. As you can see only 5 btc in buy support. This will do more damage then good, if you really cared about the Gulden community you would remove that sell order. We can't have Rijk and the community working against investors.
I feel very sorry for the development team that the timing has never been good for them. No one outside the Gulden community will notice how good this update is, maybe for the next Gulden update bitcoin price will be stable.
Bitcoin has been a good store of value but any shop I walk into that accepts bitcoin say they not getting any people buying using their bitcoin and who would since the value keeps going up and up. I think Rijk wants a stable price for Gulden so people don't have to fear that when they spend their Gulden the next day it's going to be worth 20% - 100% more. Then they can buy back in the next day at a similar value.
Merchants are noticing this about Gulden and why more merchants are adding Gulden as payment method.
It does suck for people who want to make huge profits but as a currency Gulden is performing better then bitcoin as it's more stable.
Marketing of Gulden sucks but with marketing would come more price fluctuations. I don't know anymore maybe Rijk has thought about this and why the marketing is non existent.
Merchants are noticing this about Gulden and why more merchants are adding Gulden as payment method.
It does suck for people who want to make huge profits but as a currency Gulden is performing better then bitcoin as it's more stable.
Marketing of Gulden sucks but with marketing would come more price fluctuations. I don't know anymore maybe Rijk has thought about this and why the marketing is non existent.
When you google gulden you get this: "Gulden - Added value for your money" I guess by added value they don't mean added value as in financial but as practicality. Though i'm sure 99% reads the first meaning
Gulden is in a strange place, it will literally be the best coin technically but I doubt anyone will know this outside of the current community?
Technicality hardly matters these days any more, it's now the coin that makes the most profit in speculation.... period. Greed is high these days.
Pre 2016 innovation was rewarded but crypto has fallen into the same trap as the stock market where it's where the money flows and that is the best coin. A lot of new coins have the benefit of wealthy companies or individuals behind it that can support high prices. PoW or PoS however was not good enough because miners would have some control and so ICOs were born where a few individuals of said token can buy them all up and control the market easier.
We will have to wait and see if PoW2 or SegSig brings any new investment and if not then innovation is currently dead in this landscape and developers like MaNI may aswell go work for a bank developing blockchains for them.
Let's see, if you invested 1000,- on jan 1 2017 (BTC against Gulden):
BTC buy @ 948, now 6,117 -> Profit 5,169
NLG buy @ 0,03 (33,333NLG), now (33,333NLG @0,07) 2,333 -> Profit 1,333
So BTC did 4x better than Gulden.
BTC buy @ 948, now 6,117 -> Profit 5,169
NLG buy @ 0,03 (33,333NLG), now (33,333NLG @0,07) 2,333 -> Profit 1,333
So BTC did 4x better than Gulden.
And you can easily get that profit without worrying about crashing the order book. Taking 1K+ profit on NLG currently will drop the rate by half a cent
One of my friends is upset with me because I told them buy Gulden 2 weeks ago and not to touch bitcoin. I won't be giving advice to anyone to buy Gulden again. Some investors must be wanting to kill themselves over the Gulden price instead of keeping their bitcoin.
This is the kind of mentality Gulden has to deal with, not sure how the price will ever increase.
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Bought a lot the last few days, had a nice average price of around 1550/1600, sold them this morning for 1700, expected this drop a bit. Think I'll buy back in again
Keep the bids below 1700 or this guy will dump on us again.
He was planning to rebuy in at low 1500s, not many if any sales went that low after he sold. We might be lucky that he is out the way now but there might be other traders that premature on 5-6% profit. I agree in putting low bids to try get coins off the traders that have to survive on these small profit margins.
EDIT: I have noticed a build up of 3.8 btc to 2000, traders are buying and placing higher sales. Don't fall for the trap! Force them to sell for a loss.
This is the main disadvantage of attracting mainstreamers, especially people from EU who hardly get interest from savings accounts. 5-6% profit is more then they will make in 10 years in a EU bank and they making this profit in a week. Gulden would of been far better off with the general crypto users who understand that crypto is more then just making money. Crypto traders hodl longer then mainstreamers for the very reason I mention above. Gulden has made life worse for itself with the opening of the Euro exchange in terms of price.
A lot of people posting here thought it would bring Gulden to a new level and they couldn't of been more wrong.
PoW2 and SegSig release would of done 10000000 times better without the mainstreamers dragging the price down on the Euro exchange.
The 2nd Euro exchange called Guldentrader will bring more negative prices like Nocks has done.
I read the bitcoin price is rocketing because of the Hard fork called bitcoin gold and you can get as much bitcoin gold as you have bitcoin. Gulden has to suffer another 10 days before bitcoin dumps , not sure if traders will dump before the fork or after the fork.
Yeah, but that effect is also wearing off again (people who think to profit from this already bought in, and have few funds left). Those people expect that Bitcoin Gold will react the same as Bitcoin Cash, but I don't believe that. Bitcoin Cash has some credit that it solved a problem with Bitcoin. Bitcoin Gold is just a quick money grab attempt, if you're quick enough you can profit from it, but many will loose money with it.
Yes, savvy traders will dump bitcoin before the fork because bitcoin gold will not be another bitcoin cash. Traders still have until next week to pick up cheap Gulden SO PLEASE don't pump the price , there is traders that will sell Gulden at any amount to hold bitcoin before the fork.
Will we get one more Gulden dump before the bitcoin Hard Fork? Would like to get some more long term purchases below 1700 sats
I have bought Gulden after a long time not being in Gulden. While I was away I had some good and bad fortune with making profits on other coins, one thing that is always the same with these coins is that they don't deliver on their projects.
It's their ability to convince you with hype,marketing,pumps and prolonged btc support that gives the illusion they have something special in the pipeline. Gulden is a coin based on truth but honestly isn't always the best policy when it comes to pushing profits and making quick money.
My situation in life has also changed, I can purchase for the long term as my income is covering my expenses with some money to spare and as a long term investment I don't believe there is a better coin then Gulden on the market.
It's their ability to convince you with hype,marketing,pumps and prolonged btc support that gives the illusion they have something special in the pipeline. Gulden is a coin based on truth but honestly isn't always the best policy when it comes to pushing profits and making quick money.
My situation in life has also changed, I can purchase for the long term as my income is covering my expenses with some money to spare and as a long term investment I don't believe there is a better coin then Gulden on the market.
I will be able to get back into Gulden this week at a good price. Chinese traders who hold Gulden on bittrex will be forced to dump the coin like they have started doing about 30 minutes ago, price already going below 2900 sat. By Sunday I will be buying Gulden at a HUUUUUGE discount.
The Euro value is coming down nicely, it shows that when bitcoin drops everything drops in value. The dream of Gulden maintaining a stable Euro value is still a dream if bitcoin is crashing. The rank on coinmarketcap is still mid 80s since the start of the crash which proves Gulden is no more stable then any of the other alts in the top 100.
What is the chances some early adopters could dump a few million coins so some of us can get in at a better deal? This would be good for distribution to have more users getting in at the bottom level.
I am
with the development delay that the price hasn't been dumped because of the 100 PoW block reward lasting another few months, i wish people weren't greedy to steal all the 100 reward PoW coins. Why not wait until the devs confirm they going to release before buying?You forgetting Guldentrader exchange is 1 month away , it will be the first NLG-EURO pairing exchange and they have hedge fund interest. This is the most important release this year. Nocks will follow with it's exchange a month or two later and then the Pow2 and segsig release.
Price is heading south of 2000 as bitcoin continues to rise, nothing short of the developers announcing that testing has started will reverse the trend.