All that They are saying about the flaw in the floor idea is just shit ... once people sell the coins in paybase they become the bagholder and They just have to  put those coins again on the markets with a price higher that the floor , let's say 21$ , if someone buys those coins they are not going going to sell it for 20$ at paybase since they are going to loose money . So no infinite game here .
They only have to worry about the coins dumped from hashstakers and controllers , and since they can control the stake and how many coins are created massives dumps to empty his resources and damage the coin can be stopped , specially if the controllers (wich are the ones with real power to create problems with dumping) are supossed to be in hand of people that believe in the coin and support it like Garza said . So again no infinite game here .

I was using some for daytrades .

That's the real reason why Zencloud stopped his mining operation ... not the low BTC value , market conditions or high electricity price . Zen cloud stopped because GAW did not pay the electricity . Again it seems that GAW was not saying all to his customers .

49 Capts gone here too ... I was aware about the sutdown and was able to whithdraw all my coins except Captcoin , I contacted support but without response .

CoinSwap is now owned by GAWminers  and Josh Garza , this is just another of his fails .

It seems that Garza finally found a way to run away from XPY blaming others .

https://hashtalk.org/topic/36012/http-paycoinfoundation-org-2015-04-09-declaration-of-paycoins-independence/29


@MrCEO said:
> Its unfortunate this was handled this way......I am sory to say, but it is likely this will be the end of paycoin.

No , but Garza finally found a way to run from XPY and blame others for his failure .

https://hashtalk.org/topic/36012/http-paycoinfoundation-org-2015-04-09-declaration-of-paycoins-independence/29

@MrCEO said:
> Its unfortunate this was handled this way......I am sory to say, but it is likely this will be the end of paycoin.

Totally agree ... for me Coinbase is dead , that lack of action to prevent his users is inacceptable.

There are other older forums doing it too, quartalk.CC form example

How many do you par forma Accesswiire service? , nice promo.

That's what I call an expensive bbq !

I'm still buying and have placed some orders under 1700 , I like CANN and I think it will go up again since the main project is still going on .

Good to know that is not an attack against Hashx or Ipominer .

Price is goind down like a rock 

Well finally the UROSE happened ... anything important was said during the Urose ?

What does "lifetime" contract mean
Modified on: Wed, 15 Oct, 2014 at 8:56 am

As per the contract:

The contract can be terminated in case the daily mining return are lower than the maintenance fee for at least 20 days in a row.[/quote]

And in 200 days+ you actualy would be better of with their "OLD" 9.99 USD per 10GH/s price then their new wonderful 7.99 USD per 10GH/s (as their new maintenance fee came with the new pricing)

So...... They atualy increased their prices?? While tricking their customers into believing they lowered it??? Ohh yeah!
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At other forums people are saying that Genesis mining lowered the fees

Sha 256 0.01 USD per 10GH/s, was 0.01 USD per 5 GH/s
Scrypt 0.05 USD per MH, was 0.08 USD per MH.

Can you confirm that they doubled the fee now ? , can someone with a Genesis Mining contract tell what are the fees ? . Thx .

Well ... some good news


https://hashtalk.org/topic/14539/prime-dd-maintenance-fees

We will not charge any Maintenance Fees for the DD feature and you have my apologies for us “temporarily” loosing sight of why we are here.

Gaw has showed his cards ... they will do what they want , no matter if they promised a different thing before , that's all .

*Profitable: Cost declines over time , keeping your Hashlet profitable .
http://www.gawminers.com/pages/hashlet-prime

Well , I don't think that charge fees on DD is a cost decline , is infact a cost increase , or maybe cost decline is just another thing for GAW .

Why ? , the farm had a fire and all plants burned ? ... while that can is still backing the coin all is ok .

Second Steam games giveaway to promote Quark ended some days ago , there was about 500 tickets for the raffle !

In some days another game raffle will start.

I'm going to invest the 50% of my benefits selling Cann during the last week , with those low prices it is a good move. I was already holding the 50% of my initital invest .