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Re: LTCGear.com SCAM - Enough is enough, lets get some info together
I was browsing around and found this website has Exactly the same "childish" interface at LTC Gear:
https://caraudioaustralia.net.au/
digging more I found it is from https://gourl.io/
GoURL might have info about him.
I don't now much (or anything) about technology so I might be wrong but there is something in there.
https://caraudioaustralia.net.au/
digging more I found it is from https://gourl.io/
GoURL might have info about him.
I don't now much (or anything) about technology so I might be wrong but there is something in there.
Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
According to Coinmarketcap, 24h volume for XPY was $ 107,416
Where is this volume coming from? You can't use XPY ANYWHERE, the userbase at HashTalk is a ghost town. So who is trading XPY, let alone over $100K worth of it? Even if there are a bunch of people trading XPY, why? For what purpose? Like I said, I have no stake in XPY, but if I am asking this, why are XPY holders at HashTalk not asking this?
Where is this volume coming from? You can't use XPY ANYWHERE, the userbase at HashTalk is a ghost town. So who is trading XPY, let alone over $100K worth of it? Even if there are a bunch of people trading XPY, why? For what purpose? Like I said, I have no stake in XPY, but if I am asking this, why are XPY holders at HashTalk not asking this?
I buy from myself and sell to myself!
Just paid. I wish you had put a QR code so it could be scanned, I had to type in your wallet address.
Edit: i paid as soon as i got to the payment page, now that i am past i realize that i had to pay via exercise and OP_RETURN, I hope the outcome of you getting paid being the same in both methods makes both approaches valid
Edit: i paid as soon as i got to the payment page, now that i am past i realize that i had to pay via exercise and OP_RETURN, I hope the outcome of you getting paid being the same in both methods makes both approaches valid
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
Makes perfect sense that GAWCEO and Tankjr and Favelle are same accounts
That is why Tankjr has "left" but did not leave actually, keeps posting.
Homero just can't keep up anymore and it is time to wind down.
That is why Tankjr has "left" but did not leave actually, keeps posting.
Homero just can't keep up anymore and it is time to wind down.
When i lose money i don't quit because i just paid for my lesson.
Having lost a lot of money on several occasions i find myself not losing as much anymore and i am more careful and can spot things i didn't consider looking at before.
I think with more getting my hands on i will become more experienced and finally Expert so I can help or give advice to other people.
I don't think a loss should make someone quit, it can only make someone wiser, including stepping back, taking it easy, investing more to lower the average cost, etc.
Having lost a lot of money on several occasions i find myself not losing as much anymore and i am more careful and can spot things i didn't consider looking at before.
I think with more getting my hands on i will become more experienced and finally Expert so I can help or give advice to other people.
I don't think a loss should make someone quit, it can only make someone wiser, including stepping back, taking it easy, investing more to lower the average cost, etc.
The self destructive circle has happened: mine more, increase the difficulty, reduce return, reduce profitability, repeat until profitability is negative.
What else did you expect cex.io to do? Good decision from them. The last thing you want is them forcing people to lose money.
Awaiting the ON/OFF switch. I would fund my account with fiat just to keep mining, like you said the difficulty drop would mean better returns.
What else did you expect cex.io to do? Good decision from them. The last thing you want is them forcing people to lose money.
Awaiting the ON/OFF switch. I would fund my account with fiat just to keep mining, like you said the difficulty drop would mean better returns.
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
I must admit I have learnt a lot from this thread, thank you to all positive contributors.
I joined GAW because someone said they made fast ROI so immediately i sent loads of money.
I only saw the chimp in action after I had invested but now I ROIed and still have junk in there leave it for their database to keep making me XPY.
Had i lost money on this I would be kicking myself, especially with all the red flags that kept being waved.
At present, non-withstanding this being a scam or not, I would never give a penny to a company run this way, even if they were digging for gold. They are kids they should probably start thinking of doing someone more "productive" with their lives.
The value proposition of a coin that can be used to buy stuff from the internet has been pounded to the ground and is already available in so many variations. The kid has nothing to sell, anyone coming new to this I suggest they just turn around, there is nothing interesting on this show. They will end up just taking money from each other and trading XPY in a closed circle.
I joined GAW because someone said they made fast ROI so immediately i sent loads of money.
I only saw the chimp in action after I had invested but now I ROIed and still have junk in there leave it for their database to keep making me XPY.
Had i lost money on this I would be kicking myself, especially with all the red flags that kept being waved.
At present, non-withstanding this being a scam or not, I would never give a penny to a company run this way, even if they were digging for gold. They are kids they should probably start thinking of doing someone more "productive" with their lives.
The value proposition of a coin that can be used to buy stuff from the internet has been pounded to the ground and is already available in so many variations. The kid has nothing to sell, anyone coming new to this I suggest they just turn around, there is nothing interesting on this show. They will end up just taking money from each other and trading XPY in a closed circle.
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
The scam is: they promised to stabilize the price at $20 which is the basis many people accepted to mine (or get paid with) HP points but then they "found out" that the CFTC will prosecute them for price manipulation so the hard floor strategy has been abandoned.
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
You still haven't explained why they need to buy any coin from an exchange to prop up a floor that simply doesn't exist until paybase is opened. They are just wasting money to buy coins they don't need.
I give up. This has been explained to you numerous times, I'm not quite sure why you're still so adamantly denying simple math. $5 < $20.
I think I get what puwha is saying (can't believe I see his point, but its worth thinking through). Let me try without all the smoke and mirrors.
Take the 500,000 mined PoW coins. Lets assume for the sake of argument that GAW mined zero of them, which is worst case for GAW.
Who are the buyers? (for this purpose, a miner who retains a coin is economically the same as a buyer)
(1) Speculators who think the price will go up. This group probably divides into (a) short term (betting on GAW trying to establish a floor price), and (b) long term (betting on long term rise in price of Paycoin irregardless of the floor).
(2) Stakers/Commercials who need coins to stake. These are probably not the Orion Controller folks who most certainly would have bought coins in the $2 ICO round, but rather are folks who want to stake their wallets with GAW and/or their downloaded wallets for the 5% yield.
If GAW does in fact establish the "floor", then most of 1(a) will dump, folks in 1(b) will dump a percentage of their holdings to lock in profits but will retain a position for the long term, and folks in 2 won't care. Let's say dump percentages in that case are 1(a) - 90%, 1(b) - 50%, and 2 - 5%
If you assume a 50/50 distribution between speculators and commercials, and an equal distribution also between short and long term speculators, I think what puwha is saying is that GAW doesn't need to buy ALL the 500,000 wild XPY; they only need to buy 90 % of the coins held by 1(a) group, 50% of the 1(b) coins, and 5% of the coins held by group 2. So the likely cost is much less even at a flat $20/coin than the assumed $3,000,000 max.
Moreover, if GAW tries to buy all 500,000 wild caught coins for $6 in market now, a massive buy like that would quickly escalate the price well above $6. That would mean that the long term speculators 1(b) and commercials 2 would pay more for their coins... so GAW would be hurting is loyal base by doing so.
Whether puwha is right depends heavily on your assumptions about how many coins are going into holders in each group, and what those holders are expecting in terms of exit price tiers.
sorry but you are totally wrong
this has been explained many times now so I won't repeat it, i'll just point you to it:
What is the purpose of the PoW stage? Why create the 500,000 XPYs on the loose? you want to fill yout cashtaker or speculate? buy it at $20 or at whatever price someone from the ICO's 12,000,000 or HP to XPY conversions. Why give you this opportunity to grab it for an hour's hardware mining? When you really understand this you will figure out what GAW does not have to buy Any of the coins.
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
GAW is Arabic for SCAM
We demand proof of data center all we get is photoshop fakes
I demand proof of delivery of Hashlet
We demand proof of data center all we get is photoshop fakes
I demand proof of delivery of Hashlet
I always wondered how does this look photoshopped? I have NO idea what i'm looking at please point out where you see that it is photoshopped? I just want to learn to spot this for myself.
http://fotoforensics.com/
I have no intention of reading all this. Please point to me exactly why this is photoshopped.
Reading what? I posted a link to a website. However, I believe you have no intentions of reading up about it simply because you can not comprehend what you read. You sir are a complete moron.
People keep posting these images and the forensic analysis pictures and expect everybody to see what it wrong with it without even explaining it. And I think the person that posted the forensic analysis picture does not even comprehend what he is posting. I just ask what is wrong with the picture so other people not versed in this sort of analysis can see the is photoshopped or not.
For Goodness Sake! he gave you the website, I did not know what i was looking at so I went to the website and there is a quick tutorial on ELA so go ahead and read you might learn something. I guess Lois Lane is not galactically stupid compared to the fucktards here who are all times heros across space and time
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
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(5) A Financial Institution - issues a line of credit and/or holds funds in a banking account for another party (Customer or Man in the Middle). In the case of VISA/Mastercard etc. they are linked to Payment Processor via complex agreements. NOTE that Paypal is in most cases BOTH a Payment Processor AND Financial Institution (part of the genius of Paypal).
I would like to warn anyone and everyone from the use of PayPal as a merchant and the above claim and/or assumption that PayPal is Genius.
PayPal is no where near Genius. PayPal is pure and simple Evil.
PayPal is ignorance. Their $2/year+sandwiches employees, who write their terms and agreements, still classify Bitcoin as Quasi-Money. As Financial Services Providers, they should at least be aware that there is an entity called FinCEN and use their definitions to align, hence stepping into the modern age and replacing Quasi-Money with Virtual Currency, at least for dealings with Bitcoins et al.
PayPal is bad. We need PayBase, a proper one, not Josh's one.
Prepare for your orange suit you fucking animal:
http://www.coindesk.com/florida-group-faces-fraud-charges-alleged-altcoin-pump-dump/
http://www.coindesk.com/florida-group-faces-fraud-charges-alleged-altcoin-pump-dump/
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
It looks like the pumping attempts are getting a bit desparate:
https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/545115919337680896
Name one... oh wait, NDA?
https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/545115919337680896
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Josh Garza @gawceo · 30m 30 minutes ago
It's exiting to see so may new companies start up around xpy
It's exiting to see so may new companies start up around xpy
Name one... oh wait, NDA?
He can't spell exciting
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
T0ourist = tankjr on HT?
i tried to warn people a long time ago, i did my best: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=786788.msg8918615#msg8918615
if only ZenMiner would stop those MHs numbers from changing all the time, making me believe it is an actual miner. I'm so sick of this.
PS: i got turned off by this scammer the minute he was first to announce partnership with Walmart and others, then people called Walmart and they got the shits with him and then he literally said he had to spend hours on the phone with each one of those major clients to calm them down because he broke the NDA.
Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!
i tried to warn people a long time ago, i did my best: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=786788.msg8918615#msg8918615
if only ZenMiner would stop those MHs numbers from changing all the time, making me believe it is an actual miner. I'm so sick of this.
PS: i got turned off by this scammer the minute he was first to announce partnership with Walmart and others, then people called Walmart and they got the shits with him and then he literally said he had to spend hours on the phone with each one of those major clients to calm them down because he broke the NDA.
Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
i trust a church going man and i trust more a church going family!!!!!!!
greed got to Josh that's it and he did not start it he was honest at the beginning but now he needs a lot of work to get back straight
greed got to Josh that's it and he did not start it he was honest at the beginning but now he needs a lot of work to get back straight