So based on that, you've been there from the Fermat community split-up until the blue paper launch into the first days on bittrex I guess then. And now have been out of touch for nearly two years (which is totally fine and your choice of course). But please don't be to quick to judge. 

A lot has happened ofcourse, I personally joined in late 2017 me and others that are on the team have been working hard day in day out to make this vision into reality. Because the world really needs solutions like we are building, that are gate-keeper free and open-source

We're not not perfect, haven't been and will not be. But we're honest and hard-working plus we're really getting into a an exiting era, where the university we partner with will be the first to start real life use of our systems. Thanks for the best wishes, as said, feel free to get in touch at any time.

Not at all.

You can swap your IOP coins for Hydra tokens.
Hydra is not a coin, but a utility token. We've chosen a dPOS chain and are looking to partner with Ark.io in their powered by ark program.

Internet of People will provide access to proof of identity, credentials, and ownership to all.
Cryptographically secured identifiers stored on blockchain allow users to control all aspects of their online identity. Instead of relying on email addresses and passwords, Internet of Peopleuses cryptographic addresses as “phone numbers” for fully encrypted P2P communication that can integrate with any underlying network.  Internet of People’s protocols are all built with the latest cryptographic technologies and secured via the Hydra blockchain and its utility token, Hydra. Internet of People is open source and follows international standards provided by organizations such as W3C to ensure maximum interoperability and to allow developers to easily create their own software powered by the Internet of People stack.

We're currently securing a legal advise to ensure it upholds the SEC compliance.
We are keeping the IOP chain up for a minimum of 12 months allowing everyone to make the swap, even if they have missed the recent news, and possibly this will be extended.

Hi Davide,

I wish we would have made millions in the past, as we'd love to reinvest in the project. Sadly that's not the case at all, in fact we're a hard working group, who do not hind behind aliasses
that pulled a project through the cryptowinter and keep on pushing to make this project a success.

We've made a brief overview of the history and of the future of the project on this page https://iop.global/2019/08/30/iop-next-chapter/
If you would have  followed the project more closely, you'd know that the team is there every day, working hard, answering all questions from community members and moving forward towards success and real world use of the Hydra token.

Please feel free to join our telegram or discord to discuss further. But I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't spread unfounded FUD on our project.

With friendly regards
Cristiaan Brans aka Memnon (part of the core team) (an not a millionaire, just a hard worker).

Indeed and that's why we have now chosen for by far the most simple way, through Simpleswap.io

Please read the teams recent updates I've pasted above. We have stopped / canceled and reversed the IEO on Latoken.
Instead we have moved to a token-swap via our partner Simpleswap.io based on community and investor feedback
https://iop.global/hydra-tokensale/

Please read the teams recent updates I've pasted above. We have stopped / canceled and reversed the IEO.
We have moved to a token-swap via Simpleswap.io based on community and investor feedback

We are switching block-chain in order for our tech-stack to correctly attach to it. With a Persona / DiD - Claim verification system, unique p2p communication protocol and much more.

We've de-listed the old legacy IOP (PoW) coin in consultation with the various exchanges (bittrex / upbit etc.)
IOP can be swapped 1:1 for Hydra, nearly 6 million already has been swapped by the community

We are re-listing with Hydra (dPOS, utility token, sec compliant) post-token swap
Not sure about the origin of this thread, I am responding simply because I saw our project discussed.
There is nothing shady, everything is communicated transparently daily, the good, the bad and the ugly for nearly three years that the community has been together.

For all clarity: I am part of the team.
Full name Cristiaan Brans, nickname Memnon (discord / telegram admin) and linked on the site

Following signals from our community and investors we've stopped this IEO with Latoken last week.
We've switched to https://simpleswap.io

Here's the official statement made in telegram by a team representative


Further information can be found on https://iop.global/hydra-tokensale/
Obviously anyone swapping their tokens for Hydra should do so after judging for themselves what the project is about and whether it's worth it.
Do your research and in case there are further questions, feel free to reach out to us.

IOP MANDATORY WALLET UPDATE
The network will undergo a planned hard fork on block number 149999 Pls make sure you update your core wallet to version 6.3.0 before then.
 👉https://iop.global/wallets/  👈
#InternetOfPeople #DIDs #W3C #OpenSocialGraph #WebOfTrust #IOP #Hydra

https://twitter.com/IoP_community/status/1105888705829572608

#TitaniaOS v1.1.2 is now available!
TitaniaOS is now available for x86_64 virtual environments.
Download here: https://github.com/Internet-of-People/titania-os/releases/tag/v1.1.2

#InternetOfPeople #DIDs #VerifiableClaims #W3C #OpenSocialGraph #WebOfTrust $IOP #Mercury #Morpheus #Prometheus #Hydra #Algorand #staking

Great project, great main dev.
Supporting 100%.

To quote yourself on 06/05/2018 when you left our discord angry

 
Please stick to your own words and stop this month after month, post after post frustrated hateful barrage against our community and anyone that's actually trying to build something good with it. If you don't like it, sell and move on. Or do it the other way around, do something yourself, build your own group, use the tech, make your own dapps, make plans, make suggestions, make connections to your own world, form a chapter maybe, get your mining license, get enough votes, shape your own future. Contribute to the community or project in a constructive way, like many others are doing that you are seemingly resenting and frustrated with.

Anyway, it's up to you man. This time I'm out.
Hope you'll be a more joyful man in the future.

No problem at all and thanks for he compliment.


Nothing wrong with constructive criticism I think we all applaud that.


There are definitely steps that we as a community still need to make. But we're already moving forward from where we were. Just to remind you that this is a cooperative community that spinned of from the Fermat times. This community has had no ICO and is basically self-funded. The community was in turmoil and had to 'retreat' to 'regroup' as I understand it. So when I got in last year I also found this somewhat closed fortress where you were either "in this core community" or not. This was not so because these people wanted it that way, but it evolved like this from the point where they left from fermat and the turmoil that came with it.

There were no public chapter reports, there was no divisions/core report, it was well intended but not transparent.
And the little information and discussion that there was happening mostly in closed groups.
Slowly we're getting more streamlined and at the same time more open.
This is why now everyone can make a chapter, everyone can come in and vote (which is by the way a process we wish to move to to blockchain asap, so see the discord voting as in-between phase)

So we're not quite there yet, and I think its also important to keep some room for good on topic discussions in smaller groups. Not every discussion has to take place with thousands of people.
But the road to more transparency and clarity is still not finished and will take your feedback onboard with that as well.


No problem at all. I personally like it and I am sure that others feel that way as well. There is no problem is discussing with each-other and improving from that.
And yeah that happens also here out in the public. I think there are not so many (crypto) communities where you can get so close and so easily involved personally actually.
But yeah that also means that sometimes it gets a bit messy and it's perhaps not as streamlined as a 'corporate style'  crypto group. That's usually far and far less transparent then we are already here now.



Much appreciated, I hope you'll keep on participating. We need this energy and input from everyone to become the best that we can be.

Good spot! Looking back that discussion in discord fell kind of flat now that I look at it. So to explain:

IoP divisions had produced that "What is IOP" video and the Ukrainian chapter was translating it. However we later found that some things were either technically incorrect or could give the false impression. So for instance it was suggested that you can "retract your data" you can not take back your data, you can only deny the permission to continue to use the data.  But data sent once are obvioulsy sent data, technically there is no possibility to undo this again.
Furthermore, the video promoted an internet world without middlemen, but this is also not entirely true there will be some (sort of) middlemen sometimes. For instance dApp developer who, for example, develops a decentralized UBER, must also earn money. he does not do that out of charity. But with the Mercury protocol we address this core principal on who controls the permissions. Fundamentally changing it from what we know of traditional services and apps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdUggytSg3c

To some it might seem like a small thing, but this principal lies at the core of many of the issues we're facing with current internet usages.
So we made that new video, which explains more correctly, what we do. And obviously we don't want to waste the time of our community members so it was suggested to remove the old one and work on the new one instead. The fact that this process isn't happening in backrooms and is just a normal interaction between community members speaks to our benefit in terms of transparency. Not saying that we're optimal currently, but we're trying to be as open an as transparent as possible.

I hope this helps, and should you have any further questions, feel free to reach out, if you're in our discord. You know I'm pretty much online most of the time anyway. Simply ask and I'll do my best to answer.
I am however also human, I am flawed and I can't spot everything everywhere, but feel free to help out where you can or  at least keep me on my toes This is the point of a community, to help each other. At least that's how I look at it.

Well feel free to call me, visit me, email me, telegram me, discord me, viber me, hangout me, whatsapp me, signal me, fb messenger me or anything else or post here.
I don't hide from anything and will do my best to listen and answer. But for today, since you keep insisting on being rude I am going to spend my time helping others. Enjoy your day.

By the way callback, please just contact me either in private or in one of our public channels (telegram or discord). This forum really isn't the best place for discussions.
  As said, we are open, we listen, but we also make choices, some of which you won't agree with. But if we wouldn't make choices, it would also be no good.
All of that is not a reason to be(come) hateful or negative. Lets exchange idea's, see what we can do and together make it a better project.

Thanks for your concern, but I feel fully comfortable publicly sharing my information as I know what we do and why we do it. I support it fully and don't hide this behind an alias. The alias Memnon that I use I've been using since 1996 in various projects I've supported over time. It has always been attached to my real name, as said. I have no issues with it.


Having worked in bigger projects and in front of larger audiences, I beg to differ.


Note that both the IoP community or Libertaria hasn't done any ICO so far, so we are self funded and did not ask you to invest your money.  So you invested in the project, bought IoP's or maybe received some free Hydra's from the airdrop, or bought some from other community members. And now are disgruntled about the progress of the projects. Ok, that's fair. You can have that opinion. But we see it differently obviously.

And even with all this negativity we are here, not trying to ignore you. But instead we are trying to listen and discuss with you.


That's incorrect and a false presumption. There actually used to be up to 40 licenses available to be earned, and now there are 31. Anyone can start a chapter and try and earn a license by community votes (we will turn that to voting on the chain as soon as possible). So if we have 60 chapters, only 31 will be lucky enough to earn a license.

Everyone can start a "chapter" at any time
The extra licenses you mention are used as an extra reward per month, so this goes towards those 31 'best chapters'. This ensures the best chapters get the most reward.

Forming a chapter is open
Voting is open

The only requirement is to join our Discord server, introduce yourself. 
After this we move onto our new consensus, which goes beyond this typical POS or POW or POS/POW hybrid. Perhaps I can show you the video for this even later today.


We are fully aware of what sector we are in, we are also experienced enough to know how actual development works. We are not in the fantasy building and storytelling business, with which we can undoubtly make quick easy money. We don't do an ICO, instead we develop towards common goals that bind our community.


Again this is not a Libertaria or Hydra thread but an IOP thread. The choice to work based of Micali's vision of Algorand, take that, improve that and use that as the basis for Hydra is a conscious technical choice. One that we feel is needed for the long term, speaking about long term, the Libertaria team believes that they'll be developing for the next seven years at least to build all the components needed for a truely decentralized society. This goes far beyond 'crypto' and 'currency' we need more than just that. And Libertaria is building the groundwork for that with us.

So sorry if you were looking for a quick gain, or had different expectations in general.  I hear and respect that you have a different vision, so feel free to open up a chapter yourself and collect enough votes.
Then you get the license, you get the IOP and you can make an impact in the way you want. We respect our current chapters and appreciate all the work that they are doing,  For example our cooperation with The Autonomous University of Nayarit (UAN) comes forth from the chapter efforts. This is also a project which will take time to develop, but its one where we can make an actual change for that community, for that Uni. This is something that grows close to my personal heart. Not making a quick buck.

As indicated before we are an open, collaborative global community which is always able to support and explain to you whatever we are doing and/or not doing, what's going on or whatever is not going on.
And  you can contact me personally via email, discord, telegram, phone or whatever method nearly 24/7 to talk about anything regarding this project or the other.

I even gave you my personal contact in this thread on June 23, 2018, 10:33:26 PM in a reply to your earlier post. So you have all opportunity to get any information you want.
You choose not to contact me and you seem also not interested in anything I or my fellow community members have to say apparently.

Instead you seem to just want  to return over a month later and start 'ranting' again this comes across resentful and hostile.
To be honest that's kind of sad. I would suggest you find a group / community / project that you do like and support and spend your time there.

I am sorry, but there is no reason to be rude and if you wish to continue with that I see no reason why I should reply to further responses.
We are open and transparent, not stoned at all and not socialist. You my friend sound like someone disgruntled by the market and prices being low. We are also human being and not perfect, but we work hard an many sacrifice a lot to make something great. But as we always communicated we don't control the market price, which is by the way not the same as value. value is in what we we develop, so that's what we focus onWe do so from our HQ in Karlsruhe for IOP and from Budapest Libertaria is working hard and all the chapters worldwide work hard to contribute to this.

You can read this in the Core Reports from Divisions and Libertaria each month and from he chapter reports. And in fact, speaking of mining, anyone can freely open up a chapter and mine. Internet of People took another step towards global reach and ease of use. We redesigned the structure of our community in order to enlarge its scope and to allow more people to actively participate in the development and sustainability of the IoP network.

As you know, IoP is a SHA256 coin that runs on a permissioned mining system based on what we call "mining license". Until now, the community was structured based on geographical location with mining licenses granted based on a bureaucratic mechanism. Starting today, we changed this antique and defensive approach and we adopted the following licensing / rewarding mechanism:

- everyone can start a "chapter" at any time
- there will be 31 mining license up for grab that can be used by the best  chapters in order to mine their own IOP
- there will be an extra reward per month of around 14000 IOP generated from 30 extra mining license managed by the community services which will be awarded based on the voting ranking of the chapters. The distribution principle can be found in the picture at the end of the announcements.
- mining license granting and reward awarding take place once a month, after the community voting process is concluded.
- the only requirement is to join our Discord server, introduce yourself and place your request in #chapter-requests indicate who you are, where you are from and what your desired chapter name is . After that you will get your own Report-Channel. Submit a report or a proposal and and try to get as many votes as possible. No more restriction on one country, no interview or ID check - yes, is that easy

Note that we are still planning to for a consensus switch for IOP, we will introduce a new consensus algorithm based on the idea of a directed acyclic graph, or DAG.
The DAG concept has been popularized by projects such as IOTA and HEDERA. It’s similar to blockchain, but instead of competing against each other to produce the next block on a single chain, nodes gossip with each other about network events to produce a web of messages, all linked through cryptographic hashes. With the release of the new consensus algorithm, IoP will have completed its basic infrastructure. We will then open up transaction confirmation and coin generation to the public, creating a true P2P economy.

You will soon be able to see a presentation by one of our core developers on this idea. I am pretty sure you find it interesting.
Unless of course you are not interested in the project project and/or it's development at all. Which is fine, I can't force you, but please at all times. Try to remain polite. We try to do the same.
And also we are trying to be so open as possible about what we do, try to do, when we succeed, when we fail and when we make changes. This is called development.

Dear callback,

You are asking a mix of question, some are related to IoP, and some to Libertaria. I'll try to cover them both. But please keep this to the IoP project the next time.
Also know you can always reach us on Discord and Telegram, it's probably easier and quicker to get your answers there.


The exchange of is currently flagged down and under investigation by our engineers to ensure stability & correct functioning.
We ask you for your patience during this period. Should you have any questions regarding the exchange, just ask. Obviously it will be back up soon, and don't worry your funds won't get lost.


We don't say when, until we know for certain when when is. If you want to know more about the progress behind Hydra then you can watch for instance the presentation Libertaria made at the People First conference in Berlin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0-FH9xF8G4. There is no when, because we don't know when. But development is going on steadily and very healthy.
We will update you as soon as there is more news.

Funny that you say so, apparently you noticed it, Libertaria just gave away 27 boxes to lucky winners in a online draw to which hundreds participated all around the globe.
Scoop: Libertaria is currently designing a stand alone page where you can find everything regarding Titania. The current release, is for early adopters and developers, hence it's pushed to sources they use, such as github and rust development communities.

Sure this can be and will be expanded on actually, however we spoke about it in Berlin and we have developer eagerly waiting to work with it.
Hence we released it without to much fancy markups. Again aimed at the dApp developers who need it to create their dApps.

There is no conflict between the naming of our protocol and their activities.

As you are probably aware this is a huge project by Libertaria  Hydra is a new approach to blockchain: a federated network of distinct blockchains all secured by a parent chain. Communities can set up their own economies and tokens on their own blockchain, all in a few mouse clicks. The parent chain secures all the child chains, combining the power of all the nodes in the network. The parent chain can also be used to exchange value between different child chains in atomic swaps, but because these child chains represent local economies, most transactions stay on the individual chains. Now any community can have run their own blockchain, getting all the efficiency benefits of keeping things local, while keeping the security and stability of a global system.

THE KEY FEATURES
Create your own blockchain: Use Hydra’s Genesis templates to create your own blockchain in just a few clicks.
Create your own token: Create your own cryptocurrency, secured with the consensus protocol of your choice.
Create your own community: Hydra provides governance, voting, smart contracts and more.
Fully scalable: Hydra scales globally while keeping most data and services local.
Fully secure: Written in Rust to prevent memory and overflow issues.

So this is not a simple task, to put it lightly.  Alsi you probably also know we have chosen to build Hydra on the basis of our version of Algorand. This is not as simple as taking an existing version of a consensus and setting something up.

At this point not even the algorand team itself have released their version. Yes in an earlier version we prematurely announced the deadline of this project to early and it was pushed back. We will try and keep you up to date with publications and progress reports more accurately. In case you have questions, always feel free to contact me directly.

You can find me on both IoP and Libertaria's telegram and the shared discord.
Cheers,
Memnon