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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
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MinersAnonymous
on 11/08/2014, 23:31:59 UTC
Do any of you here know why the queue on the config is set so high? Is there a big gain from setting it to a lower number or why did they program 4096 as the queue. The discarded amounts are so high...

If you want, you can change the queue in /etc/init.d/cgminer

I use 32 and it seems to be a good compromise.  Some people use 1, others have kept 4096 - doesn't seem to have a huge effect, but can save you some CPU cycles if you make it lower.

Okay thanks, I will search. Does the 4096 and large amount of discarded not affect the overall hashrate and work submitted? Also, is 32 equivalent to 32shares or a share in that size?  I ask because I did not know if 4096 was 4096 shares or a share/shares added for a vardiff of 4096

Look at cklolivas(cgminer dev) post in this thread. Goes into great detail about this.

I will try. The results from search is a bit overwhelming in such a large thread. I was hoping for a single quick fix answer but I will try to read through the results
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Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread
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MinersAnonymous
on 11/08/2014, 23:11:09 UTC
I've noticed one of my units is just bad. Hard to maintain 400-450gh/s with anywhere between 212-250. I've tried the old and new values, above 225 I will get a X on chip.

I'll have to play with 212-218 and hope I can get over 400gh/s
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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
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MinersAnonymous
on 11/08/2014, 22:10:26 UTC
Do any of you here know why the queue on the config is set so high? Is there a big gain from setting it to a lower number or why did they program 4096 as the queue. The discarded amounts are so high...

If you want, you can change the queue in /etc/init.d/cgminer

I use 32 and it seems to be a good compromise.  Some people use 1, others have kept 4096 - doesn't seem to have a huge effect, but can save you some CPU cycles if you make it lower.

Okay thanks, I will search. Does the 4096 and large amount of discarded not affect the overall hashrate and work submitted? Also, is 32 equivalent to 32shares or a share in that size?  I ask because I did not know if 4096 was 4096 shares or a share/shares added for a vardiff of 4096
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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
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MinersAnonymous
on 11/08/2014, 21:49:14 UTC
no you are better off using a site like gawminer.com buy the gear and let them host it.  I think you avoid the vat.

It's funny, I've never considered such a hosted service, and I just took a closer look, but the numbers don't add up.

Buying a S3 from Bitmaintech is ~ 390 USD, at GAW Miners it's 499.95 USD. Their hosting service is 0.9 USD a day after a free month versus 1.22 USD on engery costs for a day of running the S3 here at my place (calculated with 340W instead of the indicated 366W on the GAW Miner S3 product page). So the two prices including running costs reach equilibrium after ~ 256 days at a total of around 702 USD, which is way beyond the point to which you can make a profit. That calculation is done without VAT because it would not apply to my (one of the advantages having a company at hands), with our VAT of 20% for the hardware on import and on energy the picture would be different of course.

Calculated the other way around: The hosting service of GAW Miners for 0.9 USD equals a price of 0.11 USD per kWh. Combine that with the premium on the hardware purchase and you will never reach ROI anyway.

However you turn it, it will be a loss. Sad


Your calculations are not including the fact residential electric has utility, fees, taxes. You may be charged for many things so what is $1.22/day in energy costs for you might add an additional $30 of taxes and fees.

Hosted units are flat rate. You can host 10 S3 for $0.90/day and $270 month for 10 of them. Your home may run 10 S3 for $1.22/day and $366 month but you might end up seeing $50-100+ extra for fees and taxes after energy cost.
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Combine that with the premium on the hardware purchase and you will never reach ROI anyway.

However you turn it, it will be a loss. Sad
You are  right, especially at home you will barely see ROI, those energy costs won't help when the difficulty goes up you earn less and your margins are pressed against the wall.  Grin



Do any of you here know why the queue on the config is set so high? Is there a big gain from setting it to a lower number or why did they program 4096 as the queue. The discarded amounts are so high...


I can't be the only one can I? I saw all my units with the same high queue, I don't know what to make of it!  Huh
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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
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MinersAnonymous
on 11/08/2014, 21:12:24 UTC
Do any of you here know why the queue on the config is set so high? Is there a big gain from setting it to a lower number or why did they program 4096 as the queue. The discarded amounts are so high...
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Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread
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MinersAnonymous
on 11/08/2014, 21:06:21 UTC
Do any of you here know why the queue on the config is set so high? Is there a big gain from setting it to a lower number or why did they program 4096 as the queue. The discarded amounts are so high...

Any idea?
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Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread
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MinersAnonymous
on 10/08/2014, 06:54:52 UTC
Do any of you here know why the queue on the config is set so high? Is there a big gain from setting it to a lower number or why did they program 4096 as the queue. The discarded amounts are so high...
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Re: M's Ant (S1/S2/S3) Monitor v2.6: alerts, auto reboot, S2 shutdown, mass reboots
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MinersAnonymous
on 08/08/2014, 20:38:19 UTC
This is a great program you have created Smiley
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Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread
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MinersAnonymous
on 08/08/2014, 09:14:46 UTC
Do you guys feel it is good to instantly remove the heatsinks and apply new thermal paste to the chips?

I am unsure of the quality paste used from manufacturer but I highly doubt it is premium due to production costs.

I have been running both of my Ant's OC'd to 500 GH/s and 490 GH/s and both temperatures are well within normal ranges and all chips are stable and hashing with no X's.  One of them has been running a few hours as if you look up a post or two you'll see where we came up with the newer smaller incremental frequency steps, and that is the one running at 490 GH/s up from the 237.5 clock which was in the 470-480 GH/s range, while the other has been running for 72 hours at 500 GH/s.  

Highest temperature reached by any miner is 44C, while averaging 40-43 C in use, so I would say replacing the thermal compound is unnecessary.

That being said, if you do decide to go ahead and upgrade/replace the thermal compound, do not use any compound with Silver in it as it is conductive, and make absolutely sure that whatever brand you decide to go with DOES NOT CONDUCT ELECTRICITY - YOU WILL FRY YOUR ANTMINER!!!!!




I see Smiley Yes my current have same temperature, from some pictures I have seen of heatsinks removed I noticed very bad application of the paste. I don't expect too much from the assembly line.

Silly question but I must ask, outside of trial and error how are you coming up with the newer reg codes you posted above? Should I completely ignore the first page and use the recent posting?
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Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread
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MinersAnonymous
on 08/08/2014, 08:25:24 UTC
Do you guys feel it is good to instantly remove the heatsinks and apply new thermal paste to the chips?

I am unsure of the quality paste used from manufacturer but I highly doubt it is premium due to production costs.
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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
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MinersAnonymous
on 08/08/2014, 07:24:03 UTC
So! All units are hashing over 440gh (Two over 490), but only when using a cronjob to restart the cgminer service every 1/2 hour - 1hr depending on the miner.
Regardless of how long I leave any of these guys up to "stabilize", they always fall to 390-398 after 48 hours.

There's only one thing. I am noticing a rather high number of duplicate shares poolside since starting this restart routine. (surprise)
Is there a cgminer flag among the bitmain options to clear the asic of all work upon a cgminer restart? I know the A1 miners have a similar command with '--hwreset'

Restarting every 30 minutes is a bad practice.
Try replacing thermal paste grease and I think the issue will be solved.

I'm pretty aware how just how shitty it is, but unfortunately after re-pasting two units I saw a decrease in running temperatures but was still experiencing a steep drop off in hash after about 25-35 minutes. One of the units will spike back up to about 470 but never enough to average out to 440 without cgminer restarts.

I wish I could attribute this to poor labor skill on my part, but I'm just about 100% certain I don't suck at apply thermal paste. =/




what kind of thermal paste did u use ??

Ceramique


ok.. do not use AS5 thermal paste and do not place
the plate upside down like this idiot tried to do below:
http://i62.tinypic.com/k9bapy.jpg[/img]

check your heat sink is placed right way:
http://i59.tinypic.com/2l9nubs.jpg[/img]

with all those "-" it looks like you have a cooling issue on that blade.
look at your plate did you place it upside down by accident ??

Hahaha, no no definitely didn't remount the plate upside down. However, if my heatsinks were machined/cast anywhere NEAR as well as the ones in that unit I probably wouldn't have any problems.

Is it a good idea to remove heatsinks and apply new thermal paste immediately when receiving the units?
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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
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MinersAnonymous
on 08/08/2014, 06:38:45 UTC
Any official notice of why the message feature was removed from bitmaintech?

Have the same question... After I wrote my message to them, couple hours later the "message" feature just dissapeared from their website.

I saw someone here mention they emailed the info@bitmaintech.com, I am still curious if the message feature is gone for good. It was a clean looking system to log messages and keep track
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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
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MinersAnonymous
on 08/08/2014, 05:46:01 UTC
Spending $200 and $50 is a whole different story, you are taking it to an extreme when I mentioned a medium in between of spending a few extra bucks. Spending $50 on a corsair cx500 and spending $70 on a better power supply with decent components sounds reasonable.

Someone doing it different than me has nothing to do with "doing it wrong". Antminer have limited warranty, people live in different conditions. If you have issues with your power supply 4months down the road you will wish you had spent $20 more. Anyone who appreciates hardware knows the one thing you don't do is cheap out on the power supply.


CX500 is $30 AR not $50. I've bought those and would buy again if I needed a good cheap small PSU. Just like I'd buy EVGA 1300 again if I needed a good cheap powerful PSU. I don't know what Antminer warranty has to do with anything, or living conditions.

"Doing it wrong" are your words not mine. See, I don't tell how you should run things, but you seem to be so worried that others are doing it not according to your rules that you resort to calling them "dumb" etc. I will not wish I had spent $20 more, or $40 more as the case might be. I will be happy that I can afford a spare and zero downtime rather than losing revenue while RMAing a "high quality" PSU (yes, those break too). To each their own.

You mean the part after they take my legitimate concern of something they should research and insult with sarcastic comments? Yes, if I am telling someone they should look into what they buy instead of saying "its good" because you plug it in and it works, then so be it. There is no point of arguing the quality of a CX500 because it's been done and proven.

Mail in rebate is a rebate. You pay $50 today so regardless of the time you wait to receive it does not change the fact $50 left your wallet today.

Living conditions has much to do with this. If you have 115 F ambient your components run at different temperatures then someone in Alaska. I doubt you will want to cheap out on a power supply that has components that are cheaper and rated for less temperature
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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
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MinersAnonymous
on 08/08/2014, 05:30:52 UTC
Any official notice of why the message feature was removed from bitmaintech?
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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
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MinersAnonymous
on 08/08/2014, 05:18:57 UTC
A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

Your explanation on "how power supplies work" does not make any sense at all.  I think it only leads to more confusion.  How did you come up with 81.5% load on the CX600 with an S3?  Please elaborate.  What "added power draw from the wall" are you referring to?  It is the actual power draw at the wall that computations should be extrapolated from because it is the only concrete number we can get out of the S3 or any device for that matter.  Let us indulge ourselves:

AC power draw at the wall * PSU efficiency = DC power draw on +12V rail of PSU
DC power draw on +12V rail of PSU / max load on +12V rail of PSU * = % of load exerted on +12V rail of PSU

Therefore (assuming an OC'd S3 draws 450WAC at the wall using a CX600):

450WAC * 85% = 382.5WDC
382.5WDC / 522WDC * 100 = 73.28%

I am aware that the CX600 label states 46A on the +12V rail, hence you came up with 552W (46A * 12V).  Confusingly, the same label also states that the maximum +12V rail wattage is 522W.  Which one is a typo?  Should it have been 43.5A (522W / 12V) instead of 46A?  Anyway, I tend to be conservative and go with the lower rating and be on safe side which is why I used 522W on the above computation that resulted in a 73.28% load.  However, even with a maximum of 552W on the +12V rail as you asserted, the load would then be much lower at 69.29% (382.5WDC / 552WDC * 100).  So, where was your "81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply" derived from?

I reiterate that the Corsair CX500 (also with only two PCIe power connectors) is able to accommodate an S3 OC'd to 250M without any issues whatsoever let alone a CX600.  I am not just saying this for the heck of it; I and at least another member in here actually did it.  Please read here.




I did not go and explain how power supplies work. I mentioned the user did not know seeing as the only thing he mentioned was the overall wattage of the power supply with the assumption that because its a "cx500" or "cx600" it can handle up to 500 or 600 watts

They mentioned cx 500 600 and 700 so I can't tell you where the goof is, I probably did the math under 12V rail while playing with calculator. Obviously either me or you pointing anything out will not matter because the owners do not care what the components are inside.

You should spend some time emphasizing the fact that these power supplies are clearly made with lower than decent components instead of nitpicking on the load %. This guy went from a cx500 is fine to a sarcastic I should get a ax1500i for 1 miner. I obviously didn't suggest he spend more than the miner, but being sarcastic for someone pointing out things you should care about doesn't help either.

As long as you are aware you own a trash psu, then that is fine. You do have to buy what you can afford, and spending $400 on a miner and being cheap on a power supply is hands down dumb. If you are too broke to spend the extra $20 on a better psu then you are doing it wrong.

Spending $400 on an Ant and $200 on a PSU does not make sense for a small scale miner. The CX or whatever it is you're so unhappy about works fine with a single Ant and that's all there is to it. Not everyone wants or needs 100A on a single rail. Smaller PSU at peak efficiency is better than underutilized large one. I started with cheap-after-rebate PSUs and it was the best decision I could make back then. Dual PSUs for GPU rigs when everyone was buying LEPAs at ungodly prices, and I could afford spares too. Somebody doing something different than you is not "doing it wrong".

Spending $200 and $50 is a whole different story, you are taking it to an extreme when I mentioned a medium in between of spending a few extra bucks. Spending $50 on a corsair cx500 and spending $70 on a better power supply with decent components sounds reasonable.

Someone doing it different than me has nothing to do with "doing it wrong". Antminer have limited warranty, people live in different conditions. If you have issues with your power supply 4months down the road you will wish you had spent $20 more. Anyone who appreciates hardware knows the one thing you don't do is cheap out on the power supply.
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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
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MinersAnonymous
on 08/08/2014, 04:35:09 UTC
A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

I am running an overclocked s3 on a cx500 right now. 14 days and its fine...so....

It's more so about knowing what you are running for 14 days... It's cheap, the quality is cheap, and you got exactly what you paid for. People only care when they have problems as long as you know this from the jump then you won't be surprised if the unit dies on you or fries your miners.

A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

OK...let's make this simple.  A CX500 will absolutely, positively power an S3 at stock clock ...I've been running three batch 5s for two days now - avg 438Gh/s on the CX500's (I used 5 CX500s to run five S1s previousl - they draw nearly the same AMPs as an S3)  The CX 500's are selling at Newegg.com for $29.99 after $20.00 rebate right now.

One PSU per miner means if one PSU dies, only one miner dies (not that any of my Corsair, EVGA or any other name brand PSUs have died since I started seriously mining about 5 months ago).

I don't get why y'all are buying these huge, expensive PSUs to support multiple miners...what's the point? And the next person that tells me they are buying gold or platinum PSUs because they are "more efficient", better be able to justify the additional expense vs. actual electric cost savings over 80 or so days...show me the math that proves the "more efficient" PSUs actually ROI better for our very specific scenario.

Simple and plain. YES the cx500 will run an antminer stock.

Don't be ignorant and do your own research.
You are at 72% load on the cx500 and ~80% on the 12v rail. This power supply at 50% load is 86% efficient.
Better power supplies offer better all around features such as voltage regulation, ripple, and more efficient at certain loads.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-review-80-plus-bronze,3587-5.html
http://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-buy-a-corsair-cx

Don't ask others to educate you, do your homework before you go spreading fud about stuff because you bought some crap for $50 and it works because you plugged it in.

I ONLY use this to power my single S3:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=Cj0KEQjwx4yfBRCt2rrAs-P5vtkBEiQAOdFXbfyYxK8BNRjcG4HINOdFw3jsGBwqz5piwisbeBuPMD8aArEq8P8HAQ&Item=N82E16817139079&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Power+Supplies-_-N82E16817139079&ef_id=U54GbwAABJyCojXI:20140808042436:s

If i were to overclock i would need something more powerful like plugging it directly into the sun or.... To the sub basement!


Sorry but your sarcasm does not interest me. The fact you own a trash power supply and are making fun of a quality one, maybe that might be funny to you, but typically gamers/mainstream miners are clueless about hardware. Then again, majority of people are too.

As long as you are aware you own a trash psu, then that is fine. You do have to buy what you can afford, and spending $400 on a miner and being cheap on a power supply is hands down dumb. If you are too broke to spend the extra $20 on a better psu then you are doing it wrong.
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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
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MinersAnonymous
on 08/08/2014, 04:18:26 UTC
A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

OK...let's make this simple.  A CX500 will absolutely, positively power an S3 at stock clock ...I've been running three batch 5s for two days now - avg 438Gh/s on the CX500's (I used 5 CX500s to run five S1s previousl - they draw nearly the same AMPs as an S3)  The CX 500's are selling at Newegg.com for $29.99 after $20.00 rebate right now.

One PSU per miner means if one PSU dies, only one miner dies (not that any of my Corsair, EVGA or any other name brand PSUs have died since I started seriously mining about 5 months ago).

I don't get why y'all are buying these huge, expensive PSUs to support multiple miners...what's the point? And the next person that tells me they are buying gold or platinum PSUs because they are "more efficient", better be able to justify the additional expense vs. actual electric cost savings over 80 or so days...show me the math that proves the "more efficient" PSUs actually ROI better for our very specific scenario.

Simple and plain. YES the cx500 will run an antminer stock.

Don't be ignorant and do your own research.
You are at 72% load on the cx500 and ~80% on the 12v rail. This power supply at 50% load is 86% efficient.
Better power supplies offer better all around features such as voltage regulation, ripple, and more efficient at certain loads.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-review-80-plus-bronze,3587-5.html
http://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-buy-a-corsair-cx

Don't ask others to educate you, do your homework before you go spreading fud about stuff because you bought some crap for $50 and it works because you plugged it in.
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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
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MinersAnonymous
on 08/08/2014, 02:15:07 UTC
Anyone else having issues with discarded shares? I hooked up my 2 new S3s yesterday and have 60k discarded vs 11k accepted as of this morning,

Also, One of the S3s does not show the fan speed but I can see it running. Is there an update for this?

3rd issue: One miner only mines at 415 GH/s. much lower than the advertised 440. Again, is there an update? The other one mines constant at 450 GH/s.


Thanks in advance.

Are these in stock clocks or you overclocked them? Which batch is this from?
Which Power Supply you are using and how many Antminer S3-s are connected in it?
Also post your Miner Status page here from both the S3s.
Also show your pool data by hiding the username and password.

They are stock clock from batch 5 running on 2 S3s on one Corsair RM 1000. The hash rate has come up but it's not too stable.
Any idea about discarded shares?
you can see in the second picture what I was saying about fan speed missing.
http://i.imgur.com/IoWXnAn.png
http://i.imgur.com/hcw6Oro.png


the temps are decent so  other then the fan speed meter
 your miners are great  discarded shares are a meaningless stat.


the math for miner 1   hw/diffa + diffr + hw =  83/4965376+11776+83 or 83/4977235  = .000016675 x 100 = .00166 percent error rate.

accepted shares are 19396 on miner one

accepted shares are  19617 on miner two  close to the same for the same time   and the av gh = 440 and 438  which bears out to your accepted share number


the 5 second speeds are bs they move all over don't worry about them.

  for shits and giggles do the error rate for miner 2 

it will be about  .0333 percent  that is 99.67 good.       and 98.00 is pretty much passing.

That HW seems high! I have 1600 HW after 13 days of mining non stop. 452,000 shares accepted and 1600 HW. This is also with 250 frequency.
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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
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MinersAnonymous
on 08/08/2014, 01:24:32 UTC
A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.
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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
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MinersAnonymous
on 08/08/2014, 01:15:37 UTC
Under my account I sent a message on bitmaintech.com and now my message options have disappeared, has this happened to anyone before? Please help, thank you!

Must be a change on the site.  The message options are gone for me too.  I had attempted to communicate with them via that method before, but it wasn't until I sent an email instead that I got anything back.


Okay so it is not just me. I am curious as what we do now because I seen the only options for support or shipping problems was through the messages section under accounts.