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Re: [Mining OS] mmpOS - easy to use linux/windows platform for mining.
by
MinersRus
on 21/02/2021, 16:12:57 UTC
HiveOS which is what I was using before mmpOS allowed me to access the rig directly from the client screen. That was why I expected to see something similar with mmpOS.

I do have a SSH windows client so I will try to use that but I have a couple of questions.

1. How can I find the IP address of the rig I want to SSH into?
2. Is there a port number needed along with the IP address?
3. I assume that Rig Name and Password I used in creating the Rig is what I use to log in with
4. Any help in where I can find the various mmpOS logs is appreciated or any other info on the rig that is useful
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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 20/02/2021, 21:41:17 UTC
⭐ Merited by vapourminer (1)
Hopefully no one here is mining in Texas on a non-fixed electric contract.

With the freeze and blackouts hopefully no one is on Griddy or any other variable rate electric plan.

Griddy customers face $5,000 electric bills for 5 freezing days in Texas
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/2021/02/20/griddy-customers-face-5000-bills-for-5-freezing-days-in-texas

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Some Texans are facing yet another crisis: how to pay enormous electric bills.

The Texas power supplier Griddy, which sells unusual plans with prices tied to the spot price of power on the Texas grid, warned its customers over the weekend that their bills would rise significantly during the storm and that they should switch providers.

Some quickly looked into doing that but found the actual changeover of service wouldn’t happen for days.

Now customers say they never dreamed they’d be billed in the four figures for five days of service.

Karen Cosby said her cost is $5,000 for usage since Saturday at her 2,700-square-foot house in Rockwall.

DeAndre Upshaw of Dallas said the electric bill for his 900-square-foot, two-story townhouse was also $5,000

I am on New Power's 36 month fixed price plan at a total rate (all costs) of 9c per KWh. I also have my bill charged to a USbank Visa card that gives me back 5%. I pay the card in full so no interest or fees are ever paid. So that 9c turns into 8.55c per KWh.
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Re: [Mining OS] mmpOS - easy to use linux/windows platform for mining.
by
MinersRus
on 19/02/2021, 14:30:15 UTC
First off fantastic OS. mmpOS was so simple to setup my two rigs with seven total Vega 56's.

Now my question is there any way to remotely examine the log files on the rigs remotely?

I have looked everywhere on the miner management screen (Dashboard, Rigs, etc) but I cannot see any options to examine the actual logs on the rigs themselves.
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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 28/01/2020, 17:21:26 UTC
⭐ Merited by suchmoon (4) ,vapourminer (1)
Hello, been following this thread for a while now. Could not find an answer to this if someone could clue me in:

do the Xeon E7-4830s not perform like they should for hashrates? It has enough L3 cache.

I am going to assume that these are the original Westmere Microarchitecture from 2011 as you didn't state V2, V3 or V4.

Intel Xeon E7-4830 specifications
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon%20E7-4830%20AT80615007089AA%20(BX80615E74830).html

Also assuming that you are looking to mine RandomX (and variants).

The L2 cache on the Xeon E7-4830 limits it to the maximum of 8 threads.

RandomX needs 256kb of L2 cache and 2mb L3 cache per mining thread.

Xeon E7-4830 has:
Level 2 cache size: 8 x 256 KB <-- this limits the Xeon E7-4830 to only 8 threads
Level 3 cache size: 24 MB

You might want to look at upgrading to better (more cores) or faster ones for more performance.

The best way to judge performance differences between processors is to note the Maximum turbo frequency while using all the cores:

So using the Xeon E7-4830 is: 8 (cores) times 2.267 GHz equals 18.136 which will be the BASE for reference

now comparing  to:

Xeon E7-4850: 10 (cores) times 2.133 GHz equals 21.33 or 17.6% faster
Xeon E7-4860: 10 (cores) times 2.400 GHz equals 24 or 32.3% faster
Xeon E7-4870: 10 (cores) times 2.533 GHz equals 25.33 or 39.7% faster

Intel Xeon E7-4800 microprocessor family
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/TYPE-Xeon%20E7-4800.html

You may also want to consider the E7-8800 series as they are plug compatible with the E7-4800 series, The HP DL580 servers can use the 8800 processors. Be sure to check if your system can use the 8800 processors.

Intel Xeon E7-8800 microprocessor family
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/TYPE-Xeon%20E7-8800.html

Xeon E7-8837: 8 (cores) times 2.800 GHz equals 22.4 or 23.5% faster
Xeon E7-8867L: 10 (cores) times 2.267 GHz equals 22.67 or 25% faster
Xeon E7-8870: 10 (cores) times 2.533 GHz equals 25.33 or 39.7% faster
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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 01/12/2019, 15:07:54 UTC
New Numbers using XMRig 5.1.0:


This is what I have measured for four Dell R815 Servers on one PDU.Two with quad 6348 and two with quad 6378 Opterons.

    47318 H/s for RandomX

    3483 watts (14.1 Amps * 247 VAC) avg of 871 watts per server measured at the panel.9.0c per KWH

30000 * 47318 * 2.1 * 53.39 / (3483  * 0.090) = 507.7 MH/s


So with the current Monero World Hash Rate at 790 MH/s these servers are unprofitable.

https://2miners.com/xmr-network-hashrate


I will be mining on them for about 12 more hours because I need 17% more to get one more coin.

Then they will be powered off until Monero price recovers for them to become profitable. If that doesn't happen I will sell them off.
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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 01/12/2019, 14:00:44 UTC
Opteron Miners be sure to update to XMRig 5.1.0 from 5.0.1.

It has improved my hash rates by:


Gain of 7.4% for a Dell R815 Server with 4x Opteron 6378's. Hash Rate goes from 11270 H/s (5.0.1) to 12104 (5.1.0)


Gain of 8.0% for a Dell R815 Server with 4x Opteron 6348's. Hash Rate goes from 10696 H/s (5.0.1) to 11555 (5.1.0)


Gain of 9.7% for a Supermicro Server with 2x Opteron 6376's (OCed +15%). Hash Rate goes from 6056 H/s (5.0.1) to 6643 (5.1.0)
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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 25/11/2019, 14:01:15 UTC
The real problem is the shi**y price of Monero itself.

If the fork doesn't get the price going back up even those systems you mentioned will only be making pennies per day.
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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 23/11/2019, 17:08:04 UTC
I am having serious doubts that the Dell R815's will be profitable in the long term.

u/tevador put together "The profitability of RandomX" calculations for RandomX Hash Rate for profitability of a given rig:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/dxp2h9/the_profitability_of_randomx

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Firstly, for those who are not aware, the profitability break-even network hashrate H (i.e. the network hashrate at which your electricity costs are equal to your mining rewards) is given (approximately) by the following equation:

H = 30000 * h * R * X / (p * e)

    h ... the hashrate at which you are mining [H/s]

    R ... the current Monero block reward [XMR]

    X ... the current Monero exchange rate [USD/XMR]

    p ... the power consumption of your mining device [W]

    e ... the price you pay for electricity [USD/kWh]

For example, my Ryzen 1700 mining machine has a break-even point of 30000 * 4250 * 2.1 * 62 / (70 * 0.18) = 1.3 GH/s (assuming a block reward of 2.1 XMR and 62 USD/XMR).

Three of the variables (h, p, e) are specific to your mining setup, the block reward R is more or less predictable and the price of XMR X is unpredictable.

-------------------------------------------------------

Using today's price of $51.92 XMR
https://bitinfocharts.com/monero

    This is what I have measured for four Dell R815 Servers on one PDU.Two with quad 6348 and two with quad 6378 Opterons.

    43890 H/s for RandomX

    2880 watts (12 Amps * 240 VAC) avg of 720 watts per server measured at the panel.9.0c per KWH


30000 * 43890 * 2.1 * 51.92 / (2880 * 0.090) = 553.8 MH/s

So if the hash rate for RandomX goes to the 1.3 GH/s that is estimated when it settles after the fork these Dell R815's will again be turned off.

I would then only be mining on my various Dell T5600/T7600 Workstations.

I would also look into an electric plan where electricity is free for nights or weekends to mine on the Dell R815's.

Or I would just resell the Dell R815's for a slight profit as most of them only cost me around $250 each.
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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 22/11/2019, 17:40:14 UTC
*** Notice *** Opteron users be sure to use TurionPowerControl for maximum Hash Rates

Instructions for installing, Configuring and running TurionPowerControl

See my post # 984
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1955358.msg52644475#msg52644475

If you do not have TurionPowerControl and configured with the "-psmax 1" command your hash rate will be lowered by about 14% from what it would be.


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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 22/11/2019, 17:34:39 UTC
can opteron 6376 be profitable at .18/kwh?

Probably No.
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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 22/11/2019, 17:31:09 UTC
⭐ Merited by vapourminer (1)
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Hello Again - How many threads and cores are you using to get 6866.8 H/s?

That CN/R 6866.8 hash rate is for four Dell R815 Servers. Two with quad 6348 and two with quad 6378 Opterons.

I am using the latest XMRig v5.0.1 software found here:
https://github.com/xmrig/xmrig/releases/tag/v5.0.1

On the two Dell r815 Servers with the quad 6348 Opterons I let XMRig do the thread configuration which uses all 12 cores in each Opteron or 48 threads total per server.

On the two Dell r815 Servers with the quad 6378 Opterons I initially let XMRig do the thread configuration (64 threads). Then after exiting XMRig I edit the config.json file to use 14 cores in each Opteron or 56 threads total per server.

As I stated earlier on the Dell R815 Server with the quad 6378 Opteron's it is best to disable one core per NUMA node to gain an additional 1% in hash rate while very slightly lowering power consumption and processor heat. This is done by first running XMRig to that it fills in the CPU core options in the config.json file. Then exiting XMRig and editing the (CN and RX) sections to remove one core from each of the eight NUMA nodes.

I reformat the very long CN and RX CPU sections [0, 1, 2, ... 61, 62, 63] to this:

[0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,
 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15,

...

48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55,
56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63]

that way I can easily see each NUMA node of 8 cores. I then delete the last entry on each line. Be sure to leave the trailing comma in the first seven lines and on the last line remove the ", 63" but leave the "]" bracket.

Now when you run XMRig it will use 56 cores when mining.


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I now have Dell R815 Servers. Is it possible to overclock them?

No the Dell R815 Servers cannot be overclocked.



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Also I am trying to replace some 6176 CPUs with 6376 CPUs.   I naively thought they would work as they are the same socket. They do not.  I am using DL385 from HP.   Do you have some ideas on what I need to do to make the CPU work please? When I boot the machine I just get a red flashing light at the front.  No boot sequence. When I reinstall the 6176 everything works fine.

More than likely you need to first upgrade the BIOS in the HP DL385 G7 so that it can recognize the 6300 series Opterons.

After searching I have found these links to BIOS upgrades:

HPE DL385 G7 Opteron 6300 compatibility
https://community.hpe.com/t5/ProLiant-Servers-ML-DL-SL/HPE-DL385-G7-Opteron-6300-compatibility/td-p/7068866#.XdgYb2fDvxQ

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After testing with Opteron 6376 with the latest bios, I can confirm that at least Opteron 6376 works on dl385 motherboard

HPE ProLiant DL385 G7 Server
Drivers and Software
Bios

** CRITICAL ** System ROMPaq Firmware Upgrade for HP ProLiant DL385 G7 (A18) Servers (For USB Key-Media)

Here is the direct link:

https://support.hpe.com/hpsc/swd/public/detail?swItemId=MTX_8ca080bdbac14279b2461810ee

Bios Version is : 2018.03.14(A)(24 Apr 2018)

Click the download button to download the SP99289.exe (3.0 MB) file

Installation Instructions:

Installation:

1. Obtain a formatted USB Key media.

2. Download the SoftPaq to a directory on a system running Microsoft Windows 2000, Microsoft Windows XP, Microsoft Windows Vista, Microsoft Windows 7, Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Microsoft Windows Server 2008, or Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 and change to that directory.

3. From that drive and directory, execute the downloaded SoftPaq file: Simply double click on the SPxxxxx.exe file and follow the installation wizard to complete the SoftPaq installation process. At the end of a successful installation of the SoftPaq a web page will automatically appear to provide you with the different methods for restoring and/or upgrading the firmware on the system.

4. After the USB Key is created, you may delete the downloaded file if you wish.

5. Insert this USB Key into the USB Key port of the system to be updated and power the system on to boot to the USB Key.
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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 15/11/2019, 04:33:16 UTC
⭐ Merited by vapourminer (1)
Dell R815 Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop Installation Steps:

Go here to get Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04

Download the 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image
http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04.6-desktop-amd64.iso

After downloading has completed: install it onto a USB stick so that you can boot from it

I use the free Rufus program: https://rufus.ie
https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/releases/download/v3.8/rufus-3.8.exe

Now put the Ubuntu USB stick into the USB port on the server front.

Now power up the server and when prompted press F11 to boot from the USB stick that has Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on it.

In the F11 boot menu select "Hard Drive" and then select the Front USB drive.

--------------------------------

You should now see Ubuntu booting.

When it has completed booting click on "Install Ubuntu"

On the next screen check mark the "download updates while installing Ubuntu" line.

On the "Installation Type" screen select "Something Else"

Select/Highlight "/dev/sdb" and click "New Partition Table"

Now Select "Free Space" and click the "+": Enter 975MB and "Swap Area"
Now again Select remaining "Free Space" and click the "+": "EXT4 Journaling File System" and "Mount Point" is "/" then continue

You will see that two partitions will be created: One is the Swap the Other is "EXT4" where everything else is installed to.
If you see more partitions go back and correct it. If you don't then sometime in the future you will run out of disk space.

Now continue with the installation.

Select your correct Time Zone and Keyboard Layout.

On the setup screen I do the following:

I leave "Your Name" blank

"Computer Name": R815-1
For each additional R815 I configure I change this to R815-2, R815-3, etc

Username: miner

I use logon name of: miner
If you use a different name then other commands will need "miner" changed to whatever you name it to.

Password: xxxx

Password is whatever you want and can remember: I use "xxxx" for simplicity.

I let the system autologon when booting

When Installation completes: reboot
Be sure to remove the installation Ubuntu USB stick from the server front USB port.

Wait for the initial boot of Ubuntu from the internal USB drive to complete.

Now do all Updates.

Either wait for the Update Icon to appear on the left side of the screen (in about 5 minutes) or force updates with the following commands:

T to open a terminal window then do these commands:

Code:
   sudo apt update
    sudo apt upgrade

When Updates have completed then do these command form a terminal window

Code:
   sudo apt install shellinabox
    sudo apt install mc

Shell in a box: https://www.tecmint.com/shell-in-a-box-a-web-based-ssh-terminal-to-access-remote-linux-servers
Usage: https://blog.homeatcloud.com/manuals/the-shellinabox-tool

Midnight Commander (MC): https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/tools/how-to-install-midnight-commander
How to use MC: http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_adv_mc.php

Now Get the Server IP address with
    
Code:
   hostname -I

Now do the following from a from a remote browser (FireFox, Chrome. Internet Explorer) on your local network https://:4200

This bring up a Shellinabox session.
Using Shellinabox simplifies setup as you can copy and paste from this guide using a right mouse click in the Shellinabox browser window.

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Install R384 Nvidia Driver - see if it already installed

Code:
   nvidia-smi

Remove older Nvidia driver

If your graphic is supported, you can go ahead and remove all previously installed Nvidia drivers on your system. Enter the following command

Code:
   sudo apt purge nvidia*

Add the graphics drivers PPA

Let us go ahead and add the graphics-driver PPA -

Code:
   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers

And update

Code:
   sudo apt update

Install (and activate) the latest Nvidia graphics drivers.
Enter the following command to install the version of Nvidia graphics supported by your graphics card

// Check here for Linux Nvidia Drivers

https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa


// Check launchpadstatus here

https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus?lang=en


// Quadro 600
Code:
   sudo apt install nvidia-384


Reboot your computer for the new driver to kick-in.

Code:
   sudo reboot

You can check your installation status with the following command

Code:
   lsmod | grep nvidia

If there is no output, then your installation has probably failed.
It is also possible that the driver is not available in your system's driver database.
You can run the following command to check if your system is running on the open source driver nouveau. If the output is negative (blank) for nouveau, then all is well with your installation.

Code:
   lsmod | grep nouveau

Prevent automatic updates that might break the drivers by blocking minor version updates. Enter the following command

Code:
   sudo apt-mark hold nvidia-384

    sudo usermod -a -G video miner

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Disable graphical interface startup. I like to see the boot messages rather than a screen with a solid color and no indication it is doing anything for a long time.

I use Midnight Commander (mc) when I say edit. Use sudo mc if editing system files


// (Ubuntu 16.04) disable the boot splash


    edit /etc/default/grub


remove 'quiet' and 'splash' from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line and add nomodeset

so, assuming you have no other boot parameters, it would look like

    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset"

save that, then run

Code:
   sudo update-grub

// Reboot System

Code:
   sudo reboot
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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 15/11/2019, 03:50:38 UTC
⭐ Merited by vapourminer (1)
This section is for Dell R815 Hardware configuration and BIOS Settings:

I install an inexpensive ($10) Quadro 600 graphics card in each server because the built-in Server GPU has a limit of 1024x768 resolution which is painful to my eyes. Some of the instructions that follows are necessary for using the Quadro 600. If you use another GPU then you will need to change those steps to reflect the GPU you choose.

Initial Dell R815 Server Hardware steps:

Open Server top and install a 16GB USB stick inside at the front left side where there is an internal USB port.
Install Quadro 600 graphics card.

I remove any RAID card and SAS cables as they are not needed and burn unnecessary power while mining.
Also remove any other PCIe cards as they are also unnecessary.

Initial setup for the Dell R815 Server:

Hook up display to the Embedded Video Controller port as the Quadro 600 is not set to display the BIOS screen until a setting in the BIOS is changed.

Boot server and press F2 to enter BIOS when the screen stating "Press F2 to Enter BIOS" is seen.
You should see that line change to "Entering BIOS" when F2 has been pressed.

Note the BIOS version. All my Dell R815 Servers are on Version 3.2.2
If you have a newer version that should also be fine.

Bios Version 3.2.2 is located here:
https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=jf8yh

BIOS settings should be:

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Under Memory Settings Screen

Code:
System Memory Testing: Enabled
(On each reboot Memory is tested) When you are satisified that memory has been tested enough then change to Disabled

Code:
Redundant Memory: Disabled
Node Interleaving: Disabled

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Under Processor Settings Screen

Code:
HT Assist: Disabled
CPU Virtualization Technology: Enabled
DRAM Prefetcher: Enabled
Hardware Prefetch Training: Enabled
Hardware Prefetcher: Enabled
C1E: Enabled

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Under Integrated Devices Screen

Code:
Embedded Video Controller: Disabled

Note on Reboot the the Embedded Video Controller is disabled so switch the monitor cable to the Quadro 600 (or other GPU) you installed.

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Under Power Management Screen

Code:
Power Management: OS Control

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Now Press to exit the System Setup program
and select Save Changes and Exit


Don't forget that on Reboot the the Embedded Video Controller is disabled so switch the monitor cable to the Quadro 600 (or other GPU) you installed.


On each reboot Memory is tested. When you are satisified that memory has been tested enough then change:
System Memory Testing: Disabled

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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 14/11/2019, 18:00:50 UTC
17 days until Monero forks to RandomX.

I am pumped.

I am currently in the process of wiring another 20 AMP 240 VAC circuit to attach my third 16 AMP PDU.
This is needed for my third set of four Dell R815 Servers.

My garage mining setup will contain twelve Dell R815 Servers with a mixture of quad 6348 & 6378 Opterons.
Also a single SuperMicro Server with dual 6376 Opterons overclocked to 3 GHz.

This is what I have measured for four Dell R815 Servers on one PDU.
Two with quad 6348 and two with quad 6378 Opterons.

On the current CN/R algorithm:

6866.8 H/s
2880 watts (12 Amps * 240 VAC) avg of 720 watts per server measured at the panel.
9.2c per KWH

This setup would be mining for a loss of $4.18 a day which is why these have been powered off and will stay off until the November 30th fork.

https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/xmr?HashingPower=6866.8&HashingUnit=H%2Fs&PowerConsumption=2880&CostPerkWh=0.092&MiningPoolFee=1.0

The same same four servers produce 43890 H/s for RandomX.

I will post the RandomX numbers, Hash Rate, Power, and hopefully Profit for this setup after the fork.

Good luck everyone.

FYI: I am using XMRig for my RandomX miner. You can set it to 1% donation or 0% if you compile from the source

https://github.com/xmrig/xmrig/releases/tag/v5.0.0

XMRig 5.0.0, stable release, unified 3 in 1 miner, CPU+OpenCL+CUDA
https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/dvv637/xmrig_500_stable_release_unified_3_in_1_miner





Thanks for the update. Lets hope RandomX is as profitable as expected.

I have two HP DL580 G7 Quad E7-8837 and have 5 R815 coming on Friday.

What I did not expect is that Windows 10 has a limit of 2 CPU!  So do CPU go unused.

How do you get around this problem? Which OS are you using?

Obviously Windows Server is expensive.

Thanks for your support.

I use Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop which is FREE.

I will follow up this post with detailed instructions for Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop installation.

On the Dell R815's I put in a 16GB USB stick installed inside at the front left side where there is an internal USB port.
On the HP DL580's I use a cheap 60GB 2.5" SSD installed inside.

I also install an inexpensive ($10) Quadro 600 graphics card in each server because the built-in Server GPU has a limit of 1024x768 resolution which is painful to my eyes.

See here for cheap reliable and fast 16GB USB sticks:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1955358.msg51847827#msg51847827

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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 13/11/2019, 21:00:24 UTC
17 days until Monero forks to RandomX.

I am pumped.

I am currently in the process of wiring another 20 AMP 240 VAC circuit to attach my third 16 AMP PDU.
This is needed for my third set of four Dell R815 Servers.

My garage mining setup will contain twelve Dell R815 Servers with a mixture of quad 6348 & 6378 Opterons.
Also a single SuperMicro Server with dual 6376 Opterons overclocked to 3 GHz.

This is what I have measured for four Dell R815 Servers on one PDU.
Two with quad 6348 and two with quad 6378 Opterons.

On the current CN/R algorithm:

6866.8 H/s
2880 watts (12 Amps * 240 VAC) avg of 720 watts per server measured at the panel.
9.2c per KWH

This setup would be mining for a loss of $4.18 a day which is why these have been powered off and will stay off until the November 30th fork.

https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/xmr?HashingPower=6866.8&HashingUnit=H%2Fs&PowerConsumption=2880&CostPerkWh=0.092&MiningPoolFee=1.0

The same same four servers produce 43890 H/s for RandomX.

I will post the RandomX numbers, Hash Rate, Power, and hopefully Profit for this setup after the fork.

Good luck everyone.

FYI: I am using XMRig for my RandomX miner. You can set it to 1% donation or 0% if you compile from the source

https://github.com/xmrig/xmrig/releases/tag/v5.0.0

XMRig 5.0.0, stable release, unified 3 in 1 miner, CPU+OpenCL+CUDA
https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/dvv637/xmrig_500_stable_release_unified_3_in_1_miner


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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 08/11/2019, 16:34:09 UTC
I see two issues:

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* CPU          AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6378 (4) x64 AES
                L2:64.0 MB L3:48.0 MB 64C/64T NUMA:8

The issue is that the reported and usable L3 Cache is 48.0 MB whereas it should be 64.0 MB.

Each AMD Opteron 6378 has 16MB (2x 8MB) of L3 Cache so four of them has 64MB of L3 Cache:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-Opteron%206378%20-%20OS6378WKTGGHK.html

Look for an option in the BIOS (probably in the CPU/Processor section) that says something like "HT Assist" or "Probe Filter Lookup". If that is enabled then it steals 2MB L3 Cache from each NUMA node or 4MB L3 from each 6378 Opteron which reduces the L3 Cache per 6378 Opteron from 16MB to 12MB and 12MB time four is the 48MB you are seeing.

So find that "HT Assist"/"Probe Filter Lookup" option, disable it, reboot and retest.

If you don't see that setting make sure you are on the latest BIOS version for your motherboard.


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* POOL #1      rx.minexmr.com:4444 coin monero


By selecting the coin to be monero you are effectively mining the current algorithm CryptonightR and not RandomX.
You need to reset coin back to null in the config.json file to test RandomX.

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   "coin": null,
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Board Mining (Altcoins)
Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 07/11/2019, 01:50:02 UTC
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HELLO - Thanks for your feedback and concern about not being able to run other applications due to CPU UTILIZATION.

Actually I have the opposite problem.   CPUs are running at 58% and so I have plenty of spare capacity.  That figure includes running Google Remote Desktop without a problem.

So the CPU is under utilized. How can this be fixed please?

Task Manager show 58% CPU utilization: see  https://drive.google.com/file/d/13gGY6jBrF9qpCdjsxpRhlQPoyhpDsqS7/view?usp=sharing

Half the threads are unused. See https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d41Y5YaIscVGkg-kXfpSCYvZvuv_VAEu/view?usp=sharing

If I change the number of threads with '  -t  ' to say 13, 17, 24 or even 11 performance goes down and power consumption and CPU usage go up. There are 12 cores and 24 threads.

If I do not use a --cpu_priority with a value of 4 or greater the machine mines slower.

Is it possible to get more from these CPUs?

Thanks in advance.


RandomX has specific limits in that it needs 256KB L2 cache and 2MB L3 cache for each mining thread.

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon%20E5-2620.html

Each Xeon E5-2620 processor has: 6 real cores and 6 HT cores and can run twelve threads.

Each Xeon E5-2620 has 6 x 256 KB 8-way set associative L2 Cache and 15 MB 20-way set associative shared L3 cache

The 6 x 256 KB 8-way set associative L2 cache limits you to mining on the 6 real cores and not the HT cores.

The screenshot you posted mining RandomX shows that all six cores of both Xeon E5-2620 processors are used for mining (12 real cores) but the 12 HT cores are idle. If you actually have no other tasks running that will show 50% being utilized and that is correct as 12/24 equals 50%. Trying to use more cores for mining will actually decrease your hash rate.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M3u24W8GCo8yLrGZvFvFjmcr3T1SKBCP/view

The only way to improvement performance is to replace the E5-2620 Xeon's with something that has more real cores or is faster.

I have tested dual Sandy Bridge E5-2640 and E5-2670 processors in a Dell T5600 Workstation and these are the results:

Dual E5-2640, 12 threads, 4554 H/s, 310 watts: 14.7 H/s/W

Dual E5-2670, 16 threads, 6406 H/s, 357 watts: 17.9 H/s/W

Dual E5-2690, 16 threads, 7033 H/s, Power currently not measured, this also is a Dell T7600 Workstation

I recently picked up a pair of E5-2640 Xeon's for only $27.06 on eBay.

Also in the recent past I have picked up:

3x E5-2643 Xeon's for $31.31 or $20.88 for a pair
10x E5-2670 Xeon's for $387 or $77.40 for a pair
10x E5-2670 Xeon's for $511 or $102.20 for a pair
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Board Mining (Altcoins)
Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 06/11/2019, 21:42:22 UTC
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So are you sure that Loki and XMR have different hashrate results?

It looks like I was wrong as the only difference between Loki (RandomXL) and XMR (RandomX) is the RandomX program size (LOKI is larger).

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Can you provide a clear info about RandomXL?

https://www.reddit.com/r/LokiProject/comments/ceas1a/randomxl_mining


Thanks. Did you see anything incorrect with the command lines I used for the Dual Xeons (see above)?

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--donate-level 0

Unless you have compiled XMRig from the source:

Code:
edit src/donate.h and set all to 0

constexpr const int kDefaultDonateLevel = 0;
constexpr const int kMinimumDonateLevel = 0;

the "--donate-level 0" will default to Donate Level 5%. The lowest you can go is 1% so that would be:

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--donate-level 1

Also I do not set

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--cpu-priority 5

If the system is idle then all cpu cores that you have configured for mining will be going full out even without setting cpu-priority. If you do something like web browsing then that will steal some CPU cycles from mining. I worry if you set cpu-priority to 5 (highest) you may not be able to run other applications because they won't have enough cpu cycles to start or if they do start they may be sluggish.

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Also you do you think the Loki Hashrate is latent XMR hashrate? Ready to move across to XMR?

If they are smart they will.

As I stated earlier I am at a loss in why anyone is currently mining LOKI because the numbers I plug in even with free electricity you will be losing money mining it (because of the pool fee).
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Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 06/11/2019, 17:31:03 UTC
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So are you sure that Loki and XMR have different hashrate results?

It looks like I was wrong as the only difference between Loki (RandomXL) and XMR (RandomX) is the RandomX program size (LOKI is larger).

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Can you provide a clear info about RandomXL?

https://www.reddit.com/r/LokiProject/comments/ceas1a/randomxl_mining

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Board Mining (Altcoins)
Re: Building Cheap Miners : My "Secret"
by
MinersRus
on 06/11/2019, 14:29:21 UTC
I am hoping this Monero fork to RandomX will make my decision to own around 100 pcs Xeon X5660 worthwhile, haha!

I am getting close to 1500 H/S each on them... I forgot my power data (need to re-measure) but that is *under* the 90 watts max of the CPU... so 16 H/S per watt is the minimum.

Thermal Design Power for the Xeon X5660 is 95 watts. The actual power used can be upwards of 50% above this value just for the processor alone.

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon%20X5660%20-%20AT80614005127AA%20(BX80614X5660).html

Also you will need to consider the power used by the memory, motherboard, GPU and the efficiency of the power supply.

I have tested Dell T5600 workstations with dual Sandy Bridge E5-2640 and dual E5-2670 Xeon's. These are the results:

Dual E5-2640, 12 threads, 4554 H/s, 310 watts: 14.7 H/s/W

Dual E5-2670, 16 threads, 6406 H/s, 357 watts: 17.9 H/s/W

The E5-2640 also has a Thermal Design Power of 95 watts

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon%20E5-2640.html

Assuming that the two of then used 190 watts that still leaves 120 watts used for the memory, motherboard, Quadro 600 GPU and the 80% efficiency of the power supply.

Sandy Bridge processors are more efficient vs the Westmere processors which the X5660 is.

For actual power used you really need to measure at the wall.

Your guess of "16 H/S per watt" is not realistic.




THANKS for the information.   How much memory did you have installed for those E5-2640 and E5-2670 tests and how fast is the memory? Also which OS did you use?

64GB of PC3-10600R memory (1333 MHz), 8x 8GB sticks

Windows 10 Pro

Thanks for the information. Do you think you will make any money mining XMR RandomX with servers? May be you would if you had very cheap power. RandomX is currently used on LOKI, a tiny coin with a daily exchange volume of $10k.   Loki's network Hashrate is 52 MHS which is equivalent to 30000 Xeon E5-2620 CPUs or 4700 of the new Ryzen 3900X CPU.     So that is a huge hashrate to get just $10k out per day.

LOKI is a very very very minor coin vs Monero (XMR).

LOKI price $0.315
Monero price: $63.555

https://minerstat.com/miner/xmrig

RandomXL produces hash rates double what RandomX will produce so 52M H/s of RandomXL is equivalent to 26M H/s of RandomX.

I for one do not believe you can extrapolate what you see mining LOKI to Monero (RandomX).

I am also at a loss in why anyone is currently mining LOKI because the numbers I plug in even with free electricity you will be losing money mining it (because of the pool fee).

Even if you had electricity at 1 cent per KWh you will lose 5 cents a day with an EPYC 7742 using 225 watts and producing 77464 H/s of RandomXL.

RANDOMX CPU BENCHMARKS
https://randomx.monerobenchmarks.info/index.php

Loki mining calculator
https://minerstat.com/coin/LOKI

Great chart showing all the coins that XMRig CPU miner can mine
https://minerstat.com/miner/xmrig

As for your question: Do you think you will make any money mining XMR RandomX with servers?

Yes I do for Monero (XMR) but if I am wrong I will be able to resell the servers I have bought for a profit so my risk is minimum.