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Re: UNIWALLET OFFICIAL THREAD: a single wallet for all of your altcoins
First of all, I am very sorry for bumping this thread more than two years after my last post. I am the worst of my kind.
With that out of the way, I am sorry for the sudden interruption in updates, and a big thank you to subseaguru who bought me a beer in 2014... A couple of days after the last time I posted, a lot of problems suddenly appeared in my life and many of my activities had to be interrupted immediately. In all the mess, this project kind of slipped out of my mind. I won't go into the details but it wasn't pretty. Anyways, I just remembered that I had this project going back in the days. To be honest I feel pretty bad about just disappearing like that (without thanking or notifying any of you). I'm sorry. Is there still interest in Uniwallet? I guess that after all this time something like Uniwallet already exists... I saw that "omniwallet" is now a thing but it seems to be an online wallet. Thoughts? Exclamations? Even curses?
Thanks.
With that out of the way, I am sorry for the sudden interruption in updates, and a big thank you to subseaguru who bought me a beer in 2014... A couple of days after the last time I posted, a lot of problems suddenly appeared in my life and many of my activities had to be interrupted immediately. In all the mess, this project kind of slipped out of my mind. I won't go into the details but it wasn't pretty. Anyways, I just remembered that I had this project going back in the days. To be honest I feel pretty bad about just disappearing like that (without thanking or notifying any of you). I'm sorry. Is there still interest in Uniwallet? I guess that after all this time something like Uniwallet already exists... I saw that "omniwallet" is now a thing but it seems to be an online wallet. Thoughts? Exclamations? Even curses?
Thanks.
Watchers, the official thread is here! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=396757.0
Great - my only comment is that tremendous as I believe the idea is, the actual implementation is probably a lot of work. Apply to seedcoin or similar for some investment money?
Good idea
Re: UNIWALLET OFFICIAL THREAD: a single wallet for all of your altcoins
Hey everyone, sorry for the late responses.
For now I'm trying to put together some money and I'll start asap, a collab with Kreditz is a good idea.
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Hello Guac,
Finally someone is working on this!!! I have posted about same idea a while ago and was looking for programmers, but received little response.
Here are my 2 quarks. This is how my original idea was different from yours :
1) Built-in auto-trading between currencies:
a) the wallet would also have a decentralised torrent market, so that people can exchange Quarks for Primecoin or any other coin.
b) If I have Quarks but the seller accepts only Namecoin, I can pay him that amount in Quarks and he will receive in Namecoins.
2) Plugin for Firefox, Chrome and all the major browsers. So that people can pay online or tip very quickly. Must have a very intuitive UI, so that average internet user can use it.
3) all the wallets should be routinely backed-up in the cloud, so that people don't loose ALL their money just because their hard drive crashes.
4) Mobile apps - so that people can use their phones instead of credit cards ...just enter the amount and and tap another phone; or just tap the till and confirm -and the money is paid.
You might also want to contact the coin called "Kreditz" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=396313.0;topicseen - it's a new coin in development but it will have a completely new type of wallet with loads of original features like routine payments like Direct Debit etc. You might want to join forces and collaborate.
A word of warning, I would be very selective about which coins should be included by default. There are a lot of shit-coins and scam coins that have recently appeared. I'd include: Bitcoin, Quark, Litecoin, Peercoin, Anoncoin, Primecoin, Namecoin. The rest should write their own plugins if they have serious developers.
Keep it up!!
Thank you very much, all of your suggestions are greatly appreciated! Finally someone is working on this!!! I have posted about same idea a while ago and was looking for programmers, but received little response.
Here are my 2 quarks. This is how my original idea was different from yours :
1) Built-in auto-trading between currencies:
a) the wallet would also have a decentralised torrent market, so that people can exchange Quarks for Primecoin or any other coin.
b) If I have Quarks but the seller accepts only Namecoin, I can pay him that amount in Quarks and he will receive in Namecoins.
2) Plugin for Firefox, Chrome and all the major browsers. So that people can pay online or tip very quickly. Must have a very intuitive UI, so that average internet user can use it.
3) all the wallets should be routinely backed-up in the cloud, so that people don't loose ALL their money just because their hard drive crashes.
4) Mobile apps - so that people can use their phones instead of credit cards ...just enter the amount and and tap another phone; or just tap the till and confirm -and the money is paid.
You might also want to contact the coin called "Kreditz" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=396313.0;topicseen - it's a new coin in development but it will have a completely new type of wallet with loads of original features like routine payments like Direct Debit etc. You might want to join forces and collaborate.
A word of warning, I would be very selective about which coins should be included by default. There are a lot of shit-coins and scam coins that have recently appeared. I'd include: Bitcoin, Quark, Litecoin, Peercoin, Anoncoin, Primecoin, Namecoin. The rest should write their own plugins if they have serious developers.
Keep it up!!
For now I'm trying to put together some money and I'll start asap, a collab with Kreditz is a good idea.***
you might want to look at livechains.net. they are hosting blockchains. You might be able to use them as a source. You can submit new coins there if it's not there already.
Alright, I'll look it up!Re: [ANN] MultiCoin Wallet-BTC,LTC,PPC,QRK,WDC,MGC,NVC,XPM -would you be interested?
Hey,
I launched something like that litteraly 2 days before you, see this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=396757.0 (and the original thread listed below the OP). Think we could colaborate?
I launched something like that litteraly 2 days before you, see this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=396757.0 (and the original thread listed below the OP). Think we could colaborate?
Watchers, the official thread is here! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=396757.0
UNIWALLET OFFICIAL THREAD: a single wallet for all of your altcoins
Hello! You can call me Guac, I'm a bitcoin enthusiast and programmer of experience, also new to this forum.
I will start by stating that more and more altcoins are being made. It's getting confusing on your computer if you - like me - have many different cryptocurrencies wallets installed. Keeping track of your transactions, account balance and many other things between your Bitcoins, Litecoins, Dogecoins, *Coin wallets is getting tiring and messy. It also goes without saying that downloading the whole blockchain each time you want to try new coins is unacceptable, with its size growing more and more each day. Your time is valuable and wasting it by waiting a whole day before using your wallet is intolerable, I think you will agree with me on this one.
Uniwallet solves all of these problems.
What is Uniwallet?
Uniwallet is a frontend application currently in developpement that will allow you to manage from one simple interface all of your bitcoins and altcoins transactions, addresses, etc.. Designed to be simple with functions like automatic subwallet update detection (and installation upon confirmation), it will be extremely secure and rely directly on the *coind programs and secure server connexion (see the section below). If you trust your Qt wallet, then you trust Uniwallet, since they use the same software for transactions. Also, as I said, a system of plugins is implemented. That means that anybody who wants to see their coins supported by Uniwallet can just write a plugin for it, which should be easy.
How does it works?
Two methods of operation are available, server-side and client-side. Your wallet files are always stored on your computer in specific directories, regardless of which operation mode you choose. A plugin system for adding subwallets to Uniwallet ensure that it's easy to use new currencies, and blockchains are downloaded from the server directly to your wallets if it is your desire (negates the wait time, makes "plug-and-play" wallets).
>Server-side operation:
Transaction softwares (bitcoind, litecoind, *coind) are on a remote server and their use is shared amongst all Uniwallet users. Transactions are made using the Raw Transactions API coupled with RPC, and a secure connexion to the server is used to protect any data. Security is a priority!
http://i.imgur.com/bY04N4K.png
*See RT API: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Raw_Transactions.
>Client-side operation:
You specify where on your computer transaction softwares (bitcoind, litecoind, *coind) are located, and everything related to your transactions is handled localy (without a remote server).
http://i.imgur.com/bs2qfiB.png
Of course, this project is still in its early phase and many things may change with time.
How can I help?
Your input is extremely valuable. Since it's a product that's designed for you, you have your say in its developement. Ideas? Comments? Critics? Post them! They are like gold to me, and I'll seriously consider every one of them.
-> If you think you can contribute with the code (or with anything else for that matter - graphisms, ... - just send me a quick PM and we can discuss.
-> If you would support this project financially, tell me! I may do a Kickstarter/Bitstarter/donation address since it would surely speed the dev/testing phases up
Thank you, and keep rocking!
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Contact me:
misterguacamole42@gmail.com
MisterGuacamole on Skype
A white paper is on its way, watch thread for the update!
See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=387635.0 for original thread.
I will start by stating that more and more altcoins are being made. It's getting confusing on your computer if you - like me - have many different cryptocurrencies wallets installed. Keeping track of your transactions, account balance and many other things between your Bitcoins, Litecoins, Dogecoins, *Coin wallets is getting tiring and messy. It also goes without saying that downloading the whole blockchain each time you want to try new coins is unacceptable, with its size growing more and more each day. Your time is valuable and wasting it by waiting a whole day before using your wallet is intolerable, I think you will agree with me on this one.
Uniwallet solves all of these problems.
What is Uniwallet?
Uniwallet is a frontend application currently in developpement that will allow you to manage from one simple interface all of your bitcoins and altcoins transactions, addresses, etc.. Designed to be simple with functions like automatic subwallet update detection (and installation upon confirmation), it will be extremely secure and rely directly on the *coind programs and secure server connexion (see the section below). If you trust your Qt wallet, then you trust Uniwallet, since they use the same software for transactions. Also, as I said, a system of plugins is implemented. That means that anybody who wants to see their coins supported by Uniwallet can just write a plugin for it, which should be easy.
How does it works?
Two methods of operation are available, server-side and client-side. Your wallet files are always stored on your computer in specific directories, regardless of which operation mode you choose. A plugin system for adding subwallets to Uniwallet ensure that it's easy to use new currencies, and blockchains are downloaded from the server directly to your wallets if it is your desire (negates the wait time, makes "plug-and-play" wallets).
>Server-side operation:
Transaction softwares (bitcoind, litecoind, *coind) are on a remote server and their use is shared amongst all Uniwallet users. Transactions are made using the Raw Transactions API coupled with RPC, and a secure connexion to the server is used to protect any data. Security is a priority!
http://i.imgur.com/bY04N4K.png
*See RT API: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Raw_Transactions.
>Client-side operation:
You specify where on your computer transaction softwares (bitcoind, litecoind, *coind) are located, and everything related to your transactions is handled localy (without a remote server).
http://i.imgur.com/bs2qfiB.png
Of course, this project is still in its early phase and many things may change with time.
How can I help?
Your input is extremely valuable. Since it's a product that's designed for you, you have your say in its developement. Ideas? Comments? Critics? Post them! They are like gold to me, and I'll seriously consider every one of them.
-> If you think you can contribute with the code (or with anything else for that matter - graphisms, ... - just send me a quick PM and we can discuss.
-> If you would support this project financially, tell me! I may do a Kickstarter/Bitstarter/donation address since it would surely speed the dev/testing phases up
Thank you, and keep rocking!
---
Contact me:
misterguacamole42@gmail.com
MisterGuacamole on Skype
A white paper is on its way, watch thread for the update!
See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=387635.0 for original thread.
I think all those options sound good. We could support coins via a plugin API; we'd define a plugin that communicates with *coind's raw transactions API via RPC. A user who doesn't want the disadvantages of option 2 can switch to option 1 for one or more coins by running their own local *coinds.
Besides extensibility in supported coins (which is important since new coins can arise quickly), a plugin architecture allows for multiple backends for a particular coin, i.e. local bitcoind/SPV/electrum depending on the user's security/resource usage tradeoff.
Besides extensibility in supported coins (which is important since new coins can arise quickly), a plugin architecture allows for multiple backends for a particular coin, i.e. local bitcoind/SPV/electrum depending on the user's security/resource usage tradeoff.
Yes, this is a great idea. Plugins would be made by me/us/Uniwallet devs at first, but preferably by the *coins distributors/creators after Uniwallet gains popularity. Making plugins should be simple enough that anybody with a little knowledge can do it.
I'll be back January 2,
Happy new year!
hi all, i need a tool (both windows and linux) that will parse a blockchain and generate a CSV table that lists the total unspent balance for each address.
Parse the whole blockchain? That'd be a huge amount of addressses. PM, I'm interested anyways (experienced programmer).
Although I like the name ''Omniwallet'' (which will be called the ''Omni'', heh a few people might get the reference...) as a Marketing professional I would say that Richard is right and made a couple of great suggestions. I vote for E-Wallet.
E-Wallet sounds too generic too me. Might even be in use and / or TM'd.
Anyway, you just need a working title for now. You can brainstorm the final name once the software is nearly ready.
Yeah for now it'll be Uniwallet I think. In my opinion E-wallet sounds too generic while Uniwallet describes simply what the product does.Anyway, you just need a working title for now. You can brainstorm the final name once the software is nearly ready.
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Let's start a brainstorm on the biggest problem faced by the application: gestion of the subwallets, or "how will the application handle the transactions".
These are the options for now (subject to change with the community's input):
- bitcoind, litecoind, etc. are downloaded directly on the computer. Disadvantages:
- we need to support at least 3 versions of the [alt]coind software, one for each major OS
- bitcoind, litecoind, etc. are on a remote server and we use the Raw Transactions API (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Raw_Transactions). Disavantages:
- users have no control over what software version they use, and if one version is infected, every user's transactions will pass by an infected software
- if the server is down, then Uniwallet is down also
- allow a system of plugins. Makers of the altcoins would have to build a plugin for Uniwallet for the users to download instead of downloading the whole Qt wallet. Disavantages:
- defeats the purpose of Uniwallet a little bit
- lots of code duplication and gestion for the devs
What do you think? If your input is important on other points of the software like the name, it's extremely important that you give me suggestions concerning this particular point!
Thank you, and keep rocking!
Uniwallet is superb name. I don't like Omniwallet fwiw
Yeah these are just temporary names, but I think I'll go with Uniwallet.***
I would like see a plugin based wallet made if its possible. Something that would allow new plugins to created by other people to support future coins or electrum like networks that be developed for other coins in future. Plugins could co-exist or share the blockchain data with the official wallet for coin, and the main wallet app would show only the coins that user has added the plugins for.
I was going for something like that It sure would be useful to implement wallets as plugins.***
Uniwallet ?
Omniwallet ?
Make it simple for the public
Mywallet simple for sure ....not technical
Or
Ewallet if you prefer something more tech
Richard
www.dogecoin.be
Yeah Uniwallet would be representative of what the product is.Omniwallet ?
Make it simple for the public
Mywallet simple for sure ....not technical
Or
Ewallet if you prefer something more tech
Richard
www.dogecoin.be
Let's get this going. I'll provide the cloud backup too.
Let's do this!
I'm still searching for what would be the best wallet to fetch. Maybe the omniwallet could fetch "bitcoind", "litecoind" and such.
That is exactly what I am thinking of. A 'visual frontend' for altcoins you have.
Basically it would become a 'wallet manager' but with an interface that just makes it 'feel' like your coins are actually in the 'omni-wallet' shell. The software furthermore could work with auto-updating new wallets. Because the application is developed centrally theres a few people in charge of looking for updates to wallets (or they get notified by coin-makers, which is ofc. even better).
I am however also concerned about security and wonder if there is a way to sandbox all wallets (akin to a mini virtual machine). I just don't like the idea that wallets and the rest of my computer can interact.
Furthermore I *really* dislike the idea that wallets can access each others files (they are often in the same directory for management's sake, to make things worse).
Ideally the sandbox is two-way : The wallets can only see and access their OWN subdirectory. And nothing in your system can access the wallets because they are encrypted if the users so wishes (this could be a large button/option with mini why-to).
An other option in the wallet-shell could be to make backups of wallet.dat that are automatically zipped with SHA256 and perhaps uploaded or stored somewhere.
In the end many alt-coin wallets cause these problems that need to be solved:
1) Management of assets (list overall balance sheets)
2) Secure assets
3) Backup assets
Basically it would become a 'wallet manager' but with an interface that just makes it 'feel' like your coins are actually in the 'omni-wallet' shell. The software furthermore could work with auto-updating new wallets. Because the application is developed centrally theres a few people in charge of looking for updates to wallets (or they get notified by coin-makers, which is ofc. even better).
I am however also concerned about security and wonder if there is a way to sandbox all wallets (akin to a mini virtual machine). I just don't like the idea that wallets and the rest of my computer can interact.
Furthermore I *really* dislike the idea that wallets can access each others files (they are often in the same directory for management's sake, to make things worse).
Ideally the sandbox is two-way : The wallets can only see and access their OWN subdirectory. And nothing in your system can access the wallets because they are encrypted if the users so wishes (this could be a large button/option with mini why-to).
An other option in the wallet-shell could be to make backups of wallet.dat that are automatically zipped with SHA256 and perhaps uploaded or stored somewhere.
In the end many alt-coin wallets cause these problems that need to be solved:
1) Management of assets (list overall balance sheets)
2) Secure assets
3) Backup assets
So what you want to see is an application that is able to do this:
- Sandboxing each wallet in its wallet-shell (I like that term)
- Encrypt each wallet (but how would the application be able to modify the wallet.dat file?)
- Auto backups and storage in the cloud
In other news, I was thinking about how exactly the omniwallet would be able to manipulate the slave-wallets (and what it would download) since downloading the whole Qt wallet seems exagerated. I thought about downloading only the bitcoind daemon... ideas on what the application should fetch?
This is hard needed. All the wallets are driving me nuts!
I don't know if QT wallets offer some kind of API system where they communicate commands within a system (non-tcp-ip). But then you could think of a proxy-wallet. A virtual wallet that needs the real wallet to function, but just helps in keeping everything manageable.
The reason I suggest this is because often wallets get updated to fix forks or issues like the 1doge minimum fee to prevent flooding the system. Effectively you also relay responsability for loss and hacking etc to the original wallets, not you. It would make development easier, I think, once past the stage where you have to figure out if you can communicate with individual wallets to provide VirtualWallet interface.
Also I think this would make updating existing wallets friendlier - your wallet could check for the latest version and notify a user.
I guess in a way I'm a bit inspired by MultiMiner and GUIminer, the first also notifying you of new updates (and downloading them upon user confirmation - great!).
Edit: Also perhaps running such wallets in a sandbox might be useful to prevent inter-wallet communication (in case of infected wallet download of some new Alt coin - I'm continuously worried about that).
The wallet, if I did my research right, does offer some kind of internal API, because the Qt wallet is just a GUI for bitcoind. When you say a "proxy-wallet", what you mean is the Qt wallet for the coin is directly downloaded to a special directory under the main Wallet's, to be used as a remote for manipulating altcoins? So the main Wallet would not hold coins, but would send commands to the right altcoin wallet? Tell me if I'm mistaken.I don't know if QT wallets offer some kind of API system where they communicate commands within a system (non-tcp-ip). But then you could think of a proxy-wallet. A virtual wallet that needs the real wallet to function, but just helps in keeping everything manageable.
The reason I suggest this is because often wallets get updated to fix forks or issues like the 1doge minimum fee to prevent flooding the system. Effectively you also relay responsability for loss and hacking etc to the original wallets, not you. It would make development easier, I think, once past the stage where you have to figure out if you can communicate with individual wallets to provide VirtualWallet interface.
Also I think this would make updating existing wallets friendlier - your wallet could check for the latest version and notify a user.
I guess in a way I'm a bit inspired by MultiMiner and GUIminer, the first also notifying you of new updates (and downloading them upon user confirmation - great!).
Edit: Also perhaps running such wallets in a sandbox might be useful to prevent inter-wallet communication (in case of infected wallet download of some new Alt coin - I'm continuously worried about that).
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Guac, if you use Skype add me. artw1982
Will do when I come home.That's actually a fantastic idea - a multi-coin wallet.
Only issue for me is because of the gigantic size of the bitcoin blockchain, I don't actually use bitcoin-qt at all, prefer electrum, but the idea could still work, as there are plenty of altcoins out there.
So yes, I would use it (for all altcoins). Just have a list of altcoins and allow people to choose which ones they want to use. Include bitcoin of course
Notes taken Only issue for me is because of the gigantic size of the bitcoin blockchain, I don't actually use bitcoin-qt at all, prefer electrum, but the idea could still work, as there are plenty of altcoins out there.
So yes, I would use it (for all altcoins). Just have a list of altcoins and allow people to choose which ones they want to use. Include bitcoin of course
A remote server with the blockchain already downloaded for an "instant-on" is a great idea though.***
I'm interested in the idea and the development.
If you are interested in the developpement, PM me with what you would be able to do to contribute!***
Gen wallet is a bad name tho. I keep thinking generate and I come here to say vanity gen already does that.
Agreed, I was thinking maybe Uniwallet or something else.Im in the process of putting one together myself
Nice!
You could try https://www.weusecoins.com/en/.
Will do, thanks.
